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Post by johnnysmom on May 26, 2020 19:42:49 GMT
I think part of the issue is that everyone is interpreting “SIP” differently.
IMO “shelter in place” literally means go nowhere though in regards to Covid it actually means go for absolute essentials only....grocery store pick up, pharmacy, doctor and get gas. That’s it. No haircut. No nonessential shopping. No dining out. No meeting friends/family in a parking lot. Nothing. I think very few people will take it to that extreme long (or even mid) term but when someone says they’re going to SIP till a vaccine or whatever that’s what I assume.
For me that’s not sustainable long term and I have no desire to live that way so I will gradually venture out as guidelines allow and as I feel comfortable, taking proper precautions as well. For now that’s what is appropriate for my family and our area, that could change and will vary for different families/locations.
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Post by ashley on May 26, 2020 19:48:44 GMT
I think though, when you look at even that one case from Missouri of the one hair cutting place that exposed 140 clients to covid, that the extent of risk is actually abundant.
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Post by silverlining on May 26, 2020 20:07:34 GMT
I will go out to shop for essentials and to exercise outside every day. I will avoid crowds and situations where people are lingering in one area and not moving through. I am not high risk, but dh is a physician, so I know I could be exposed though him, and could possibly expose others. I have given up on explaining to people that I do this because I don't want to be a vector, not because I'm afraid for my own health. Somehow being altruistic doesn't occur to them as a reason to SIP. They prefer to call people Doomers or assume that we're scared of becoming ill. I just feel that as a healthy person married to a healthy physician, we are both likely to be asymptomatic carriers. He can not choose to stay home, but I can, so I will until we have reduced the number of daily new cases in my community.
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Post by sassyangel on May 26, 2020 20:12:34 GMT
And as for people on Reddit calling others "Doomers", not sure where she's reading but on the forums I follow, most people back SIP and being careful. I haven’t personally seen it either, but I do know Reddit has its horrible side (that I avoid), so it doesn’t surprise me either.
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Post by janniepea on May 26, 2020 20:17:59 GMT
We will be SIP for a while. We have my elderly mother in law here and she’s in hospice with advanced Alzheimer’s. We also have our son here who is having 2 hip replacements this year due to having hip dysplasia. So we do that for them.
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Post by Mystie on May 26, 2020 20:29:22 GMT
I have no choice but to SIP, I'm in the middle of cancer treatment. I figure I'll see my friends and family again in a couple of years...who knows? Grateful I don't have a job that puts me in danger. My husband will work from home till his NASA site opens again. He'll continue to wear a mask when he has to go our...I will, too. (I just go to medical appointments.) It's going to be a long, dull time for us both. Yes, I feel sorry for myself, lol.
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Post by withapea on May 26, 2020 20:37:26 GMT
I feel like I'm going to be SIP for the long haul ( I'm in one of "those" categories ). My state is open and so many are very nonchalant about the current state of affairs. I can't rely on the bare minimum of public participation for safety. It's been eye opening.
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Post by Mystie on May 26, 2020 20:39:05 GMT
Deleted, and I'm taking a social media/mental health break for a few days.
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Post by zella on May 26, 2020 21:33:53 GMT
johnnysmom, yes that is just what SIP means to me. This wasn't a huge change for us. We're all introverts so staying home is our norm. Hubby was already working from home, and DD and I are both disabled anyway. I think I've mentioned this before, but to those who talk about "everyone will get it eventually," or "I'd rather live my life and risk it," let me just give you a better idea of why DD and I are very high risk. Perhaps you've heard of cytokine storms mentioned as a symptom and cause of the severe form of Covid. We both have a disorder that causes cytokine storms randomly. Obviously we are at far higher risk of getting one if sick with Covid. We also get these cytokine storms frequently anyway when sick with any infection. And they are pure hell. Definitely worth reading about IMO. I just googled it, and basically cytokine storm = Covid death. It's that bad. DD gets sick with things when she hasn't even left the house, so clearly she's super susceptible to any illness. Another thing they see with the serious cases is low blood potassium. I have such a problem with this that I have to take potassium 3-5 times a day. Without it, or if my potassium gets too low, I first lose my ability to use my legs and start to have slurred speech; if not corrected quickly I develop paralysis of my legs which can continue for many hours. DD and I also have dysautonomia, so our BP and pulse don't react normally. This could be a big problem with Covid. This is just part of what we deal with, and the bits that relate most to Covid. Age wouldn't matter for us (we're 57 and 28). I'm not scared of death, but I'm terrified of DD being alone in hospital, and I'm terrified of being alone and unable to communicate. I'm terrified of either of us dying alone. The only thing I miss and care about deeply is not seeing my other DD and GD. But they are in Washington, we're in Florida. It's hard to see how or when we can make a visit work (our visit scheduled for March had to be cancelled, obviously). I hate the thought of not going back to Maui, but that's out for the foreseeable future. Even if we could do it, the quarantine situation in Hawaii makes it impossible. We used to go out every Sunday last fall to watch the Seahawks with a group of fans at a bar. I cannot imagine that happening this season, and we will miss that, but a crowded bar won't be safe. mikklynn, I'm so sorry about your husband; I know that you understand why this is so important for some of us. Why, I'm sorry; this is all just really freaking hard. dewryce, I like the separate cars for lunch idea! Yeah it is too bad so many don't care about others, isn't it? myshelly, if some people want to think or say that because some of us don't want to die from drowning in our own body fluids, whatever. It is NOT a nice way to go. And living through it can be hell too. Really Red: what a great company! I don't miss grocery shopping at all. I've always hated it. Hubby goes in person partly to get help his cabin fever, but more because the pharmacy doesn't deliver, and it's at the grocery store. He always wears a mask, sanitizes the cart, I sanitize the groceries, etc.etc. so I'm not too concerned. sassyangel: thank you for standing up for those of us who are high risk. And we are many! If they never come out with a vaccine but come out with a preventive regimen, that would be okay. I don't know how DD and I would deal with a treatment but no vaccine. Depends how well it works, I guess. But I'm going to keep hoping for a vaccine. Even if we were all well, I'd do anything I could not to risk passing Covid to anyone. I'd never want to be responsible for that.
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Post by myboysnme on May 26, 2020 21:42:48 GMT
Not me. I got my hair colored and cut today. They aren't waxing though at that salon.
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Post by katlady on May 26, 2020 21:48:18 GMT
Deleted, and I'm taking a social media/mental health break for a few days. Take care of yourself! Hugs!
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Post by basketdiva on May 26, 2020 22:10:45 GMT
Curios, many of you say that you have not gone anywhere since this all started- do you mean you have not left your home for any reason? We go to the grocery store, do curbside pick up at HD and restaurants as well the UPS store for our mail. We also go on walks and drives to chase the sunset.
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Post by Linda on May 26, 2020 22:26:45 GMT
IMO “shelter in place” literally means go nowhere though in regards to Covid it actually means go for absolute essentials only....grocery store pick up, pharmacy, doctor and get gas. That’s it. No haircut. No nonessential shopping. No dining out. No meeting friends/family in a parking lot. Nothing. I think very few people will take it to that extreme long (or even mid) term but when someone says they’re going to SIP till a vaccine or whatever that’s what I assume. urios, many of you say that you have not gone anywhere since this all started- do you mean you have not left your home for any reason? We go to the grocery store, do curbside pick up at HD and restaurants as well the UPS store for our mail. We also go on walks and drives to chase the sunset. Since March 10th - I have left our property once a week to buy groceries. That's it. DD13 has not left our property. DD20 has left once - last Friday to pack up her dorm room. DH works at the office still (masks requireed). No socialising, no non-essential shopping, I cut DH's hair, he cut the girls, mine is getting longer and longer, no dining out, we've had pizza delivered twice (no contact delivery). We get outdoors- we're fortunate to have 4 acres - 13 plays basketball and rides her bike on the property, 20 runs sprints in the backyard (she did that pre-Covid19 also - she's worn a track around the yard). I walk laps for an hour every evening up and down our LONG driveway. DH walks laps at work during his lunch hour (large outdoor area) - also not new.
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Post by bc2ca on May 26, 2020 22:31:38 GMT
Deleted, and I'm taking a social media/mental health break for a few days. hugs We will be following the county and state guidelines. DH has continued working outside the home, DD is back at work (although they aren't open yet) and DS is hoping to be on campus in the fall. I know DD & DS will be going out and meeting with friends before DH & I. We will probably ease back into life by having friends over or going to their homes before we start going to restaurants again. I'm not in a rush, but we will start doing more as things move back to normal(ish).
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on May 26, 2020 22:32:42 GMT
We are.
Hubby is an essential worker, so he goes to work.
The rest of us keep our butts home, unless it’s our 2 week grocery run.
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Post by epeanymous on May 26, 2020 22:36:28 GMT
Curios, many of you say that you have not gone anywhere since this all started- do you mean you have not left your home for any reason? We go to the grocery store, do curbside pick up at HD and restaurants as well the UPS store for our mail. We also go on walks and drives to chase the sunset. While we were in full SIP, I went on a long walk every morning and went in person to the grocery store about once a week. I got classified as an essential worker a few weeks in so started going to my office as well. I would say “I don’t go anywhere” at the time but obviously in reflecting that wasn’t literally true.
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Post by mom on May 26, 2020 22:37:19 GMT
Curios, many of you say that you have not gone anywhere since this all started- do you mean you have not left your home for any reason? We go to the grocery store, do curbside pick up at HD and restaurants as well the UPS store for our mail. We also go on walks and drives to chase the sunset. No, when I say I am staying at home I mean not going anywhere unnecessary. So no trips to Ulta, Walmart, Hobby Lobby. No eating in restaurants. No girls nights, no going to the gym. I have gone to one store for something not technically 'needed' but I needed for my mental health - I went to Joanns last week and got there when they opened to buy more scrapbook adhesive so I can be crafty at home over the weekend. Oh, and I have done a drive-by birthday parade for my favorite 4 year old. During a regular week, I go to the grocery store once every 10 days or so and get take out 1-2x, depending what my DH is doing with his work. My DH and two sons go to work but that is it. No friends come over. No dates. My DH and boys do go to our shop (in our town) to work on their own cars that they are rebuilding. And they go fishing on my x-FIL property that is local.
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Post by Just T on May 26, 2020 22:46:23 GMT
The SIP order was lifted in my county 2 weeks ago, and I still haven't done much at all. I go to the grocery store and sometimes Walmart, but that place seems to be the hotbed of people not social distancing or wearing masks for some reason. I haven't been to any other store since the beginning of March.
I have an appointment to get my hair done next Tuesday. The salon has been opened for 3 weeks, you have to wear a mask, the stylist wears a mask, they clean and disinfect in between each client, and you have to wait in your car until it is your turn. I admit I am looking forward to having my hair done as the last time was at the end of January.
My family and I went to a restaurant for the first time on Saturday. We sat on the patio the tables were well over 6 feet apart and the waitress and hostess both had on masks. I was a bit nervous, but I did enjoy that meal at one of my favorite restaurants.
I go back to my office next week, but we are each only working in the office 2 days, the other days from home. There will only be 2 of us there each day (small office and staff). We are going to do that all summer.
I go out for walks. Our favorite park has opened back up--there is a walking path around a lake, and it is only one way. I have been there a few times, and there was hardly anyone there.
Other than that, I am not going to go out and do much. I won't be out shopping or going to festivals or anything like that. Most of those things around here have been cancelled anyway but even if they weren't, I wouldn't be going.
ETA: I live in Missouri, not too far from Lake of the Ozarks where everyone was partying it up over the weekend. Knowing that those people are now out in society makes me want to stay close to home even more.
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Post by milocat on May 26, 2020 22:49:06 GMT
I'm sure your perspective depends on where you live. I live in one of the smaller provinces of Canada. Since the outbreak began, we've had 121 confirmed cases. 120 are now considered virus free. Of the 121 cases, 17 were hospitalized, 3 of them in ICU, and 0 deaths. The borders are closed to all non-essential business. There has been only 1 case in the last 4 weeks. So, no I'm not wearing a mask. No, I'm not sitting at home being scared. Judging by the amount of people out and about, keeping social distancing, I'm not the only one. Your province has been doing so good. We are doing well in northern Alberta, there was an outbreak at a nursing home unfortunately sort of close to here (100 km away). But the area I'm in the 5 counties around us have had 0 cases and one of those counties is larger than PEI even though the population is only 2200. The city of 70,000 (but where everyone has to come to to shop) closest to us has 3 active and 3 recovered cases. We've never had SIP, it was always highly stressed to stay home and only go out when necessary etc. Currently I go to the store when I want to, weekly sometimes in 5 days, the store isn't busy there might be 1-2 others when you go in there. When phase 2 starts and my acupuncturist opens I'm going back regularly. My DD comes home from the city on the weekends so she stops at Walmart or Costco and gets a few things that I can't get here in our small village. It's saved me from having to go in. If my mom, sister or I go into the city we get things for each other and it helps stretch out trips. I think we've each been in once since this all happened. I normally went every 2-4 weeks and I'll probably go every 4 now because I probably won't bother stopping at the 'fun' stores just to browse. I'm a major homebody so this isn't bothering me. Now I won't be staying home because of COVID, I'll just be back to staying home because I like to.
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Post by dewryce on May 26, 2020 22:54:33 GMT
Curios, many of you say that you have not gone anywhere since this all started- do you mean you have not left your home for any reason? We go to the grocery store, do curbside pick up at HD and restaurants as well the UPS store for our mail. We also go on walks and drives to chase the sunset. I did a drop off of some needed supplies to friends & family. Yelled at each other across the parking lot and in the yard for a few minutes. That’s it for me. DH goes to work every week day and picks up our prescriptions on the way home the few times it’s been needed. We get our groceries delivered but might switch to pickup since we can do that without contact. And once or twice a week, weather permitting, he meets his team to swim at a river and maintains a lot of distance on land and swims away from the pack. Oh, and he did a contactless return to Joann for a Mother’s Day gift. I think that’s it. Nope, forgot a doctor’s appt and will have an MRI this week. The office followed protocol very well and made sure the patients did, and I had him schedule the MTI first thing so people hadn’t been breathing and coughing in the enclosed space all day.
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Post by pierkiss on May 26, 2020 22:56:52 GMT
I think though, when you look at even that one case from Missouri of the one hair cutting place that exposed 140 clients to covid, that the extent of risk is actually abundant. I wish they would do follow up on how many of those people developed symptoms and how many people were asymptomatic but still had it and how many didn’t get it at all. I am extremely curious about those numbers in situations like this one.
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Post by dewryce on May 26, 2020 22:58:33 GMT
I think though, when you look at even that one case from Missouri of the one hair cutting place that exposed 140 clients to covid, that the extent of risk is actually abundant. I wish they would do follow up on how many of those people developed symptoms and how many people were asymptomatic but still had it and how many didn’t get it at all. I am extremely curious about those numbers in situations like this one. I agree. The reckless exposure is unacceptable either way. But I think we need the follow-up data to really have a clear picture how that exposure plays out.
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Post by ashley on May 26, 2020 23:13:23 GMT
I think though, when you look at even that one case from Missouri of the one hair cutting place that exposed 140 clients to covid, that the extent of risk is actually abundant. I wish they would do follow up on how many of those people developed symptoms and how many people were asymptomatic but still had it and how many didn’t get it at all. I am extremely curious about those numbers in situations like this one. This would definitely be helpful information.
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Post by Scrapper100 on May 26, 2020 23:32:25 GMT
I think though, when you look at even that one case from Missouri of the one hair cutting place that exposed 140 clients to covid, that the extent of risk is actually abundant. I wish they would do follow up on how many of those people developed symptoms and how many people were asymptomatic but still had it and how many didn’t get it at all. I am extremely curious about those numbers in situations like this one. I Curious to. Did they all wear masks and other procedures followed? I have an appointment in two weeks and while they can open I’m not sure if my colorist will open. I feel safe with her as a one woman shop but wouldn’t elsewhere.
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Post by likescarrots on May 26, 2020 23:41:59 GMT
Curios, many of you say that you have not gone anywhere since this all started- do you mean you have not left your home for any reason? We go to the grocery store, do curbside pick up at HD and restaurants as well the UPS store for our mail. We also go on walks and drives to chase the sunset. I've been out in a car twice since March 16, once to pick up groceries and once to go to a hiking trail. My husband has been out three times since earlier than that (he started working from home the first week of March) - he has also gone to the grocery store and to the hiking trail with me. We are planning groceries 2+ weeks out so we don't have to go out much. Other than that I take walks in the neighborhood if the weather is nice.
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Post by whipea on May 26, 2020 23:41:59 GMT
I live in Florida so our risk remains very high due to all the people that will soon be rushing here from all over to participate in mandatory activities such as vacations and amusement parks.
Until asked to return to work I will SIP, work at home and avoid any situation that attracts groups of selfish, thoughtless and careless people who refuse to wear masks so they can be free to spit on the ground. I can wait a bit to "live life" as I want a healthy life to live.
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Post by pilcas on May 26, 2020 23:48:45 GMT
I will be cautious until the numbers improve significantly. If I have to go out and do something I will do it taking care to go at off peak times. I probably won’t be browsing the mall anytime soon or going to the movies.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 0:06:24 GMT
SAME here!!! DH is so fragile. Even if he wasn't going thru cancer and chemo right now, he'd still be fragile. I have enough infections and problems with my eye surgeries, so, no thanks!!!!!!!!!!! I don't trust 99% of the people here so I'm staying put. I go out for emergencies only. Sometimes that includes a doctor's office, Publix, getting gas........... Other than that we basically stay home. We sit on our lanai to "get fresh air" (as though the air here is fresh? Ha!!).
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Post by ashley on May 27, 2020 0:18:57 GMT
I wish they would do follow up on how many of those people developed symptoms and how many people were asymptomatic but still had it and how many didn’t get it at all. I am extremely curious about those numbers in situations like this one. I Curious to. Did they all wear masks and other procedures followed? I have an appointment in two weeks and while they can open I’m not sure if my colorist will open. I feel safe with her as a one woman shop but wouldn’t elsewhere. The two articles I read said “everyone” wore masks. Hopefully they were worn properly! Two stylists at the same salon had symptoms (and worked while sick), and tested positive and I don’t know if it could be determined or not but I wonder if they contracted it independently or if one shared the virus with her coworker(s).
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 2:39:43 GMT
Right now, we're gradually venturing out more but still wearing masks. Our area of our state is not slated to fully open for a while. Part of me hates it. I want to go out for dinner. I want people to be able to go back to work and earn money. I know not everyone is as lucky as we have been. I also want everyone to be safe and people to wear a mask. I know I can't have it both ways because people are assholes.
When places are open (legally), we will wait a while. A few weeks or so. Definitely not right away.
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