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Post by gmcwife1 on May 28, 2020 4:21:20 GMT
My store is closing My store is the Lynnwood store All the stores listed are the closest stores to me. The next closest would be Smokey Point or Silverdale when I’m visiting my family. Both are an hour away I’m really sad, I love shopping there for dog toys, scrapbooking supplies and hidden treasures
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finaledition
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Post by finaledition on May 28, 2020 5:45:43 GMT
The one in my town is closing, but the other one which is 20 minutes away is not on the list. It’s a bummer because the store that is closing moved to a larger space a couple years ago and it’s been kept very clean and organized.
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suzyuk111
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Post by suzyuk111 on May 28, 2020 6:39:43 GMT
I am so sad to see TM stores are closing - all three of the ones I visited in the LA area on my last visit there in January are closing. I have used up a lot of stash since our lockdown in the UK - I was planning a big TM shop on my next trip to the west coast. Unfortunately if we order from here with scrapbook.com, we have to pay VAT (value added tax of 20%) if order is over £15 (roughly $20), import tax on goods over £135 as well as shipping costs so my TM visits were awesome - even though my suitcases were heavy lol
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Post by lovestocreate on May 28, 2020 7:20:31 GMT
Oh no! Ours is on the list. We are so rural I fear there won't be many options left here, and even worse there will be less jobs available to people to go back to.
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Post by pas2 on May 28, 2020 10:33:22 GMT
Now both stores near me will be closed. I will need to drive 2 hours to reach a store that has a really poor craft section. Glad I have been weaning myself off of that store over the pst year. I plan to go as soon as our stay at home order has been lifted to stock up on my favorite items.
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Post by ecvnj58 on May 28, 2020 10:54:18 GMT
I’m not surprised ours is closing. Whenever I go there is maybe one other person in the store. I just don’t think my area of NJ really responds to Tuesday morning. They also never really had great supplies at my store so it’s really not a huge loss.
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Post by hop2 on May 28, 2020 11:18:46 GMT
My state is still closed and I see that they'll be closing 7/10 stores here in NJ They will be so missed by me! OMG they are all so far away here as it is!!! Damn
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Post by hop2 on May 28, 2020 12:00:10 GMT
Well I’m surprised the ones that are closing in NJ are some of the ‘better’ kept stores are keeping 2 of the crappier kept ones on the list
I mean the hole in the basement one in Midland Park stays over the Paramus one? Granted the one in Paramus wasn’t the easiest to get to it’s on the most congested parts of rt4 but it was more well laid out than the midland park one ( which isn’t the easiest to get to either ) but the aisles in the midland park one are too small, you have to skootch past people & the craft section is never neat. And the disorganized one near Princeton? That place looks like your shopping after a natural disaster of some sort also with tiny aisles. Not the stores I’d have kept but what do I know.
I’m also sad to see the one in Albany going. It was the neatest, cleanest, most organized, one I’ve ever been in. But I wont be up that way for it to affect me I was on vacation when I went there. I spent over $100 in less than 20 mins because it was so neat & organized I didn’t have to ‘search’
I looks like the one on my way to visit DD in PA will stay & the one by my niece.
So my TM shopping will be limited to vacations going forward I guess. The ones in NJ can’t open now until they find a way to do curbside pick up.
It’s weird, the 2 stores in NJ they seem to be keeping are the ones I wasn’t going to be willing to go to for some time because they are so cramped and social distancing will be impossible. Where as some of the ones they are closing have wider, easier aisles. They don’t seem to be thinking of their customers safety at all. Just considering the bottom line period. Keeping their most cramped stores isn’t a great idea right now. IMO at a time like this that could backfire.
Oh, and they are keeping that disaster of a store in Drexel Hill? That was hands down the worst, messiest, cramped, Least organized, TM I’d ever been in. It looked like they took boxes off the truck opened them & dumped them randomly down the aisle. Barely anything was hung up you had to dig thru piles plopped on flat shelves to see what they had. I spent $3 and only because that one item just happened to be on top of a pile. There is no way I’m going in there during the pandemic. No way. I don’t care how close to there DD moves they don’t discount anything enough for dealing with that disaster of a mess with viruses added in.
From the stores I am familiar with that they are keeping, I can’t imagine them remaining viable. Those are the stores I had crossed off going to as not worth the risk.
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Post by scrapnnana on May 28, 2020 13:48:28 GMT
I think that they must be closing the stores that aren’t turning enough of a profit. When filing for that type of bankruptcy in order to reorganize and stay in business, they have to show that they are making a reasonable effort to become financially sound and able to meet their debts.
Customer safety has nothing to do with it, except that if customers don’t feel safe, they won’t shop there. From something else that I read, though, at least some stores are reportedly making the aisles one way. I guess that is how they get around the narrow aisles issue.
The Northern Virginia stores they listed were all cramped, disorganized, and never had anything good as far as scrapbooking. I wasn’t surprised to see which stores in my old shopping grounds were on the list to close. I had stopped shopping at them well before I moved halfway across the country.
I don’t know most of the DFW stores as well as I knew the No.VA stores. However, when hunting for something special that had been reported here, there was a time when I drove long distances because TM’s product hotline said they had what I was looking for. Of course, I didn’t always find it there when I arrived, but I usually found something else to buy. I rarely left completely empty handed. I was able to find the Tim Holtz mini platform because of that hotline, even though I had to drive farther to get it. I got my Gemini from a TM that was farther away, too.
When they discontinued their product hotline, I no longer was willing to drive longer distances “just in case” I might get lucky. I shopped only at the more convenient stores after that, and it has been less often. That one decision to stop the product hotline resulted in my spending less money at TM. I wonder if others went further to find a product and bought more before TM’s stupid decision to dump the hotline?
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Post by lostwithout2peas on May 28, 2020 15:01:40 GMT
1 of my stores is on the list. We have 4. 1 isn't worth the drive, the one that was on the list was ok, the main one carries tons of scrapbook stuff. 1 is about a good 50 minutes away and it's also just OK. It was nice to have a variety. Let's see what round 2 of closures holds.
So sorry for all those whose only store is closing. Unfortunately, We may all be in the same boat soon!!
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Post by 950nancy on May 28, 2020 15:12:16 GMT
We have three in our city. The tiny one about 5 minutes from me is closing. I was not surprised. The other two are very large and have tons of crafting supplies.
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Post by hop2 on May 28, 2020 15:19:39 GMT
We have three in our city. The tiny one about 5 minutes from me is closing. I was not surprised. The other two are very large and have tons of crafting supplies. weird how near you they are keeping the large stores but near me they are keeping the small stores. I won’t be shopping TM anytime soon because the only store they are keeping are both far away, & IMO less safe for the current further. And yes @scrapnana if I could do an online check ( or better yet a purchase) & stop for a quick pick up I’d be much more likely to drive further I’m pretty sure me & TM are parting ways at this point. Except maybe a random stop while traveling. They are all an hour or more from me now plus not worth the trip
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Post by 950nancy on May 28, 2020 15:54:50 GMT
We have three in our city. The tiny one about 5 minutes from me is closing. I was not surprised. The other two are very large and have tons of crafting supplies. weird how near you they are keeping the large stores but near me they are keeping the small stores. I won’t be shopping TM anytime soon because the only store they are keeping are both far away, & IMO less safe for the current further. And yes @scrapnana if I could do an online check ( or better yet a purchase) & stop for a quick pick up I’d be much more likely to drive further I’m pretty sure me & TM are parting ways at this point. Except maybe a random stop while traveling. They are all an hour or more from me now plus not worth the trip They are keeping the higher performing stores. My little one maybe has one other person in it when I shop there. The two new ones aren't "Legacy" stores" read old, small, dark... The other two have a high volume of customers and both of them are in the top 10% of craft sales for stores.
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Post by FurryP on May 28, 2020 16:14:32 GMT
My stores aren't on the list, but I'm not sure if the list I found is the entirety or not because the same article lists that they're planning to close in 2 phases. The list is extensive and not numbered (I'm not going to count) so I'm not breathing a sigh of relief just yet. I really hope that they don't go under and that this is just a strategic move to close stores that were already not doing well with the protections that bankruptcy offers. I'm pretty sure that is just the first list. I read something somewhere that "after they negotiated blah, blah blah" (can't remember what they were negotiating) they would have the next set of stores to close. I agree about hopefully only closing stores that were already not doing well.
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Post by auroraborealis on May 28, 2020 17:17:06 GMT
I have a strong suspicion the reason why they are closing the one they chose in MN (vs others) is I’ll bet the rent is much higher there than other locations. It’s a big store, plenty of people shop there. But the location is such that rent is probably high and non negotiable.
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Post by joblackford on May 28, 2020 17:39:33 GMT
My stores aren't on the list, but I'm not sure if the list I found is the entirety or not because the same article lists that they're planning to close in 2 phases. The list is extensive and not numbered (I'm not going to count) so I'm not breathing a sigh of relief just yet. I really hope that they don't go under and that this is just a strategic move to close stores that were already not doing well with the protections that bankruptcy offers. The list they seem to have released to the press seems to be the 100-odd phase 1 closures. Apparently the 2nd wave is more of a threat - they close all the phase 1 stores and then go to their landlords and say, see we're serious, we're willing to close the store in your complex too, and the landlords will mostly cave and renegotiate the leases on the phase 2 stores to be far more favorable to TM. So you're good for a while. Lease negotiations are not a fast process in my experience, and I would think landlords will be taking the long view to keep their shopping centers viable.
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Post by joblackford on May 28, 2020 17:47:11 GMT
I'm pretty sure that is just the first list. I read something somewhere that "after they negotiated blah, blah blah" (can't remember what they were negotiating) they would have the next set of stores to close. I agree about hopefully only closing stores that were already not doing well. They're renegotiating leases on the remaining stores. By closing the worst stores they show that they're working to regain profitability and also showing landlords that they're serious about the threat to close, which will help them get more favorable lease terms for their phase 2 stores. Remaining time on a lease and the conditions and limitations and things like the common area maintenance costs that the shopping center landlords put on the leases, as well as the cost per square foot will be a big part of figuring out who stays and who goes.
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Post by azcrafty on May 28, 2020 19:24:40 GMT
Arizona is only closing one in Tuscon. My stores are all safe. I was in one this Tuesday and it had some good dies and stamps.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 22:11:18 GMT
I have a strong suspicion the reason why they are closing the one they chose in MN (vs others) is I’ll bet the rent is much higher there than other locations. It’s a big store, plenty of people shop there. But the location is such that rent is probably high and non negotiable. I was wondering about this. Looks like they are closing the Woodbury one and the Richfield one. I get the Richfield one-it is very small and never has much. The Woodbury one though, is bigger and (IMO) much nicer. But yeah, the rent is probably very high. I cannot believe the Roseville one is staying open. Actually, it is not even open right now, my SIL went yesterday and she called me because she was going to look at scrapstuff for me, and she said it had a closed sign on the door. So that one hasn't even opened yet from the quarantine.
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Post by crittsmom on May 29, 2020 3:32:07 GMT
the one nearest to me, just moved last fall into a bigger store, glad that one isn't on the list. The other one that I have been to is closing, but it was pretty small. I also think that rent was high where they are.
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Post by 950nancy on May 29, 2020 3:42:55 GMT
My stores aren't on the list, but I'm not sure if the list I found is the entirety or not because the same article lists that they're planning to close in 2 phases. The list is extensive and not numbered (I'm not going to count) so I'm not breathing a sigh of relief just yet. I really hope that they don't go under and that this is just a strategic move to close stores that were already not doing well with the protections that bankruptcy offers. I'm pretty sure that is just the first list. I read something somewhere that "after they negotiated blah, blah blah" (can't remember what they were negotiating) they would have the next set of stores to close. I agree about hopefully only closing stores that were already not doing well. I read 230 stores a few days ago.
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Post by artisticscrapper on May 29, 2020 3:51:45 GMT
Sad to hear. Mine closed a while back. They had a pretty good craft section but I’d also check out their other items. I was really surprised when they closed since there were always other customers there. They were near a retirement community and a lot of the residents shopped there.
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Post by tia2eleven on May 29, 2020 4:29:38 GMT
I'm bummed about the Bay Area (and not so Bay Area) stores that are closing. It will be trek to go to one now. Maybe when I visit family/friends I can make a pit stop.
What I don't understand is if they plan on closing June 1 and stores are still closed due to COVID-19. What happens to the product? Does it go to another store? Donated? Trashed?
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artbabe
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Post by artbabe on May 29, 2020 14:35:03 GMT
The store near my house is closing. It hasn't been open a year. It is very big and there are always people there so I don't know why they chose that one to close. There are a couple others in my city that aren't on the list but they are far less convenient and don't have the amount of scrap supplies that mine did.
I am bummed.
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Post by auntmimi on May 29, 2020 14:43:23 GMT
Two stores in my area are closing. One is no surprise - it was tiny and never seemed to have any customers in it. The other is more surprising because it's in a big strip mall in a very populated, affluent area. My favorite TM is not closing for now, so that was a relief.
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Post by Elsabelle on May 29, 2020 14:57:47 GMT
I'm bummed about the Bay Area (and not so Bay Area) stores that are closing. It will be trek to go to one now. Maybe when I visit family/friends I can make a pit stop. What I don't understand is if they plan on closing June 1 and stores are still closed due to COVID-19. What happens to the product? Does it go to another store? Donated? Trashed? I would also like to know about the stock on hand. My store could have reopened recently but hasn’t so no everything must go sale for now.
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Post by scrapnnana on May 29, 2020 16:26:02 GMT
What I don't understand is if they plan on closing June 1 and stores are still closed due to COVID-19. What happens to the product? Does it go to another store? Donated? Trashed? For the stores still in lock down areas, I would assume that trucks will be sent to pick the merchandise up and move it to another store. The stores may put more on clearance to make room for keeping the better (or more in demand) items. That, however, is just a guess. I can’t see them just trashing it. They have to try to make as much profit off what they currently have in stock they as they can. I agree that high rent may have something to do with some closures. I hope that doesn’t mean that my preferred stores will be on the 2nd hit list. They are both in good shopping areas. They get a lot of traffic, but the rent is probably higher. One of them moved from a really dumpy location to the bigger and better one less than a year ago.
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Post by thewanderingcreative on May 29, 2020 21:11:48 GMT
My state is still closed and I see that they'll be closing 7/10 stores here in NJ They will be so missed by me! OMG they are all so far away here as it is!!! Damn I know!! There will only be one location left that's not down the shore, and Midland Park always got the least amount of goods! I can't believe they kept that one but not Paramus, East Hanover or Watchung.
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Post by pas2 on May 31, 2020 9:16:07 GMT
Just wondering how TM closing stores would impact the resellers that typically come in and wipe out the stores crafting inventory. Karma.
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Post by Restless Spirit on May 31, 2020 13:18:33 GMT
Just wondering how TM closing stores would impact the resellers that typically come in and wipe out the stores crafting inventory. Karma. Exactly! Particularly since the TM near me actually hired a gal that was a reseller. This store is not on the first round of closures, but my DH and I are thinking it will be because it’s really not in a very good location like the other store across town. Plus the other store is larger and in a busy little shopping center. I will miss mine if it closes.
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