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Post by MonkeysInk on Jul 3, 2014 16:40:07 GMT
The Fat Fuzz is now 16 and has survived just fine on Iams. His partner in crime Clark lived until 22 on the same. We did give them some kidney diet food from the vet when they both got swine flu a few years ago, but once they were back to their usual selves we went back to regular food.
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Post by sunshine36616 on Jul 3, 2014 17:12:40 GMT
I've always said feed the best you can afford. Quality dog food can improve so much in a dog. It can help digestion, smell, coat, skin, alergies, all kinds of things! Now if the best you can afford is Ol' Roy, that's still better than not eating or in a shelter. People eat bullshit they shouldn't all the time. Can you survive living off of Tony's Pizza and Spaghetti O's? Absolutely. Is it ideal, not really. But it's still food.
If you ever want to see where your dog food falls on the quality level or compare foods, this is a great site:
Dog Food Advisor
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Post by BeckyTech on Jul 3, 2014 17:43:08 GMT
What is is about dogs loving to eat cat food? I've often referred to it as 'crack for dogs' because the dogs we have (had) will go to any length to get to the cat's food bowl. Protein. Cat food (and therefore their poop) is higher in protein. Dogs love it, but don't need it.
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Post by BeckyTech on Jul 3, 2014 17:47:14 GMT
I've always said feed the best you can afford. Quality dog food can improve so much in a dog. It can help digestion, smell, coat, skin, alergies, all kinds of things! Now if the best you can afford is Ol' Roy, that's still better than not eating or in a shelter. People eat bullshit they shouldn't all the time. Can you survive living off of Tony's Pizza and Spaghetti O's? Absolutely. Is it ideal, not really. But it's still food.
Ol' Roy is the one food my vet said NEVER to feed your dog. That crap has been recalled so many times I can't even count. And if I remember right, it's been responsible for deaths. Surely there are other choices than shelter/Ol' Roy. IOW, I respectfully disagree with you on that one.
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Post by sunshine36616 on Jul 3, 2014 17:57:23 GMT
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Post by sharlag on Jul 3, 2014 17:59:01 GMT
I've never heard of Fromm!
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Post by sunshine36616 on Jul 3, 2014 18:00:57 GMT
It's a decent quality food we can afford. When one of your dogs is 100lbs, it can put some stress on the ol bank account!
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Post by georgiapea on Jul 3, 2014 18:26:30 GMT
Well, I thought my dog deserved an 'upgrade' in her food so we went from Benefuls to Rachel Ray dog food and she didn't see it as 'upgrade' at all. She looks at the food, looks at me, and sometimes walks away, although she eventually eats it. Back to the Benefuls, which she loves.
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Post by sunshine36616 on Jul 3, 2014 18:45:10 GMT
Well, I thought my dog deserved an 'upgrade' in her food so we went from Benefuls to Rachel Ray dog food and she didn't see it as 'upgrade' at all. She looks at the food, looks at me, and sometimes walks away, although she eventually eats it. Back to the Benefuls, which she loves. Don't you love that? Our local pet store owner let us try a bag of the grain free Fromms at regular price. The damn dogs didn't like it. They'd look at us, sniff it, sit down and then had the nerve to give a deep sigh. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy your $45 bag of dog food! Jerks
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Post by mom2paige on Jul 3, 2014 18:46:44 GMT
*raises hand* Hi, My name is Michelle and my dog is my child. LOL We were having issues with excessive licking, scratching and hot spots. When I stopped the food with grains in it, he stopped most of this. But I also feed him some human food with the dry kibble. Blueberries, carrots, green beans, apples, pumpkin...or I mix it with a bit of coconut oil once a week. *backs out of the thread cautiously...* Michelle- this made me crack up! Tucker gets the 'weight management' food from Costco, with a spoonful of plain puréed pumpkin on top. Some days he gobbles it up and other days he looks at me like 'really? This again?' and walks away. The vet recommended it when we rescued him because he was overweight- we've been using it for 18 months and guess what??? The damn dog still weighs the exact same weight to the ounce, haha!
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Post by sunshine36616 on Jul 3, 2014 19:22:10 GMT
Oh yeah, pumpkin is good for their digestive issues. If it's a little soft or a little too hard, give them some pumpkin. My little dog loves it.
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Post by azredhead on Jul 3, 2014 19:27:23 GMT
How about the dog popsicles over in the ice cream cooler? I am apparently low-brow because my dogs just get ice cubes from the refrigerator door. As soon as they hear the machine going they come running over for a "treat." My dogs wait for us to get water and ice and then wait for them to fall out. The older one Duke, tries to catch them as they fall. One of his favorite activities! LOL!
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Post by my2apps2 on Jul 3, 2014 19:46:24 GMT
Our Junior was allergic to corn and had to be fed grain free food, so there is a need...I don't think anyone is arguing that.
However, the vast majority of pets don't need specialty diets. We all want what's best for our fur babies though, so I understand why the marketing pulls us in.
I also agree with the poster who said ol'Roy is better than starving. Yes, it is basically junk food for dogs, but if that is all a family can afford & their pet is healthy and happy, I think it is just fine.
We feed our guys Kirkland lamb & rice from Costco and they seem to be doing fine.
I AM curious though, it seems that grain allergies/sensitivity has increased in pets over the years, I wonder if that is tied in to GMO's?
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Post by birukitty on Jul 3, 2014 21:49:02 GMT
I agree with Sunshine. Reading comprehension is a good thing folks! She wasn't suggesting Rob Roy as a good dog food. She was saying it was better if you were dirt poor and had nothing else to feed the dog and the dog was going to starve otherwise.
What Sunshine did give was a great site to evaluate the quality of all dog foods http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com You can look up what you are feeding your dog, do some reading and see how it rates. Learn all about what goes in to the food and what is great to include and what isn't. You can also sign up for alerts to come to your email when a dog food brand you are feeding is recalled.
Sadly there isn't one for cat food, but most cat foods occur under the same dog food brand so at least it's a good start if you only have cats (like me).
The pet food industry is nothing to laugh about. It's a mega-million dollar industry. You can spend your dollars on a healthy food or you can spend your dollars at your vet treating the illnesses your poor quality food caused. At least that's how I look at it.
I've got two cats-one 16 year old, and one 17 year old.
Debbie in MD.
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Post by purplebee on Jul 3, 2014 22:53:11 GMT
Our year old GSD, Heidi, had itching issues. Vet suggested trying a grain/beef-free food so we've been giving her a lamb/rice formula kibble from our local farm co-op and it's really made a difference. Hubby says, huh, some farm dog! - but he loooooves her anyway.
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Post by DaisyDoodles on Jul 3, 2014 23:05:03 GMT
When we had indoor kittehs, the little box was the dog's favorite buffet destination. I moved the box to the garage and the damn dog would lay in front of the door to the garage and whine..damn turd burglar. I don't know why I waste money on fancy food for her when all she wanted to eat was crap, literally ! Now that all our kittehs have passed, the dog has accepted the fact that the only kitteh treats she gets to eat are from the kind strays that use our back yard as their littler box
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Post by Nanner on Jul 4, 2014 0:11:25 GMT
My vet's office are great at talking you into more, more, more. Bugs the heck out of me, but I really like them, I have friends that say they're the best (we are new dog owners), so we stay with them.
Our first visit, he just needed his puppy shots. Well, when we walked out of there, he had his examination, the puppy shots, rabies shot, bordatella shot, was micro-chipped, and we'd signed up for pet insurance at $52/month. They tried like crazy to get us to put him on the food they sell, but we dug our feet in on that one.
Edited to fix a typo that Becky pointed out. (thanks, Becky!)
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Post by ChicagoKTS on Jul 4, 2014 0:21:36 GMT
We give ours dry food with a heaping tablespoon of can food mixed-in otherwise she gets bored and won't eat. The funny part is when we choose the cans of food. We ooh and ahh over the different flavors/mixes. We typically buy Merrick and the names are quite amusing. You would think we were shopping for our own meals the way we exclaim "that one sounds really good".
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Post by mama2three on Jul 4, 2014 0:22:09 GMT
But I also feed him some human food with the dry kibble. Blueberries, carrots, green beans, apples, pumpkin...or I mix it with a bit of coconut oil once a week. *backs out of the thread cautiously...* I feed my dog fruits and veggies with his kibble daily. He adores green beans and broccoli .
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jul 4, 2014 0:27:09 GMT
We give ours dry food with a heaping tablespoon of can food mixed-in otherwise she gets bored and won't eat. The funny part is when we choose the cans of food. We ooh and ahh over the different flavors/mixes. We typically buy Merrick and the names are quite amusing. You would think we were shopping for our own meals the way we exclaim "that one sounds really good". Merrick must have a great team in place for naming their foods, because the names sound wonderful! I thought my cats would love it, sadly they had other ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 0:29:49 GMT
It is crazy, but I admit, our precious snowflake shelter dog gets nothing but the best. We don't have kids and she is now the only pet we have, so her stinky butt gets spoiled. We do have kids but our precious snowflake also gets the best because she is overweight I have no idea why ... she gets walked a number of kilometres every day but she is now 93 freaking pounds Needless to say, she is now on "Light and Fit" Leanne Our Stella is on diet dog food too. She was almost 13 lbs overweight and we were doing really good on the weight loss until she blew out her knees. She is back up to 52 lbs so we have to get her to lose 7 this time around.
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Post by Nanner on Jul 4, 2014 0:51:38 GMT
We feed our fella Blue Buffalo Life Protection Puppy small Breed. He likes it. Glad to see it's rated a 5 on the site that Sunshine linked.
We also buy Acana Pacifica (puppy) for treats for training. It's really tiny kibble, so if we need to give him a whole bunch, it doesn't fill him up too much.
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Post by angel97701 on Jul 4, 2014 4:01:50 GMT
Yep, pet food is a gazzillion dollar industry, but there are different qualities. Check out the website mentioned above but remember there is a bias. Some foods like Atta Boy have alot of fillers and thus your dog must eat more to get the nutrition they need, and also poop more too!
We raise AKC German Shepherds and I have used Nutri Source and will now try a Kirkland brand Nature's Domain recommended by another breeder friend of mine. When we have a litter of puppies we go through food like crazy! Momma eats up to 24 cups a day and drinks 3 gallons of water when she is in full nursing mode!
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Post by BuckeyeSandy on Jul 4, 2014 4:16:37 GMT
Ideally Maggie ought to be on a Hepatic (Liver Support) diet, but very few dogs will even eat it, so we make do with Renal (Kidney Support) with low protein.
Our Vet got us a consult with a Veterinary dietitian (yes, there are people who study nutritional needs and formulate diets for all sorts of animals) and she came up with a few recipes for us to try right after Maggie's bloating incidents. I know "why" there are many diets. Dogs can be VERY PICKY eaters. Once a week I make her food for the week, wet and dry stuff that is mixed before feeding.
We are cheating, I found a compounding pharmacy that will put the powdered nutritional supplements into a pill form, otherwise, we have a hard time getting Maggie to eat her food.
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Post by BeckyTech on Jul 4, 2014 6:06:44 GMT
My vet's office are great at talking you into more, more, more. Bugs the heck out of me, but I really like them, I have friends that say they're the best (we are new dog owners), so we stay with them. Our first visit, he just needed his puppy shots. Well, when we walked out of there, he had his examination, the puppy shots, rabies shot, bordatella shot, was micro-chipped, and we'd signed up for pet insurance at $52/week. They tried like crazy to get us to put him on the food they sell, but we dug our feet in on that one. Please tell me the $52/week is a typo. Please?!? Even at a monthly rate, that's horribly expensive for a puppy. And I bet it limits you to the services that vet clinic can provide instead of being able to go anywhere you need to. Does that place have 24/hr. emergency care? Almost every pet owner has to go to one of those at some point. You might want to look over this pet insurance comparison chart site.
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Post by azredhead on Jul 4, 2014 6:26:19 GMT
We do give ours the Beniful varieties. They like the healthy weight and healthy coat one. I will sometimes add a little olive oil and or rice if they have a tummy issue or as an extra treat. They love it with the olive oil and it's good for them.
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Post by BuckeyeSandy on Jul 4, 2014 11:43:43 GMT
Ideally Maggie ought to be on a Hepatic (Liver Support) diet, but very few dogs will even eat it, so we make do with Renal (Kidney Support) with low protein.
Our Vet got us a consult with a Veterinary dietitian (yes, there are people who study nutritional needs and formulate diets for all sorts of animals) and she came up with a few recipes for us to try right after Maggie's bloating incidents. I know "why" there are many diets. Dogs can be VERY PICKY eaters. Once a week I make her food for the week, wet and dry stuff that is mixed before feeding.
We are cheating, I found a compounding pharmacy that will put the powdered nutritional supplements into a pill form, otherwise, we have a hard time getting Maggie to eat her food.
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Post by Nanner on Jul 4, 2014 13:12:10 GMT
My vet's office are great at talking you into more, more, more. Bugs the heck out of me, but I really like them, I have friends that say they're the best (we are new dog owners), so we stay with them. Our first visit, he just needed his puppy shots. Well, when we walked out of there, he had his examination, the puppy shots, rabies shot, bordatella shot, was micro-chipped, and we'd signed up for pet insurance at $52/week. They tried like crazy to get us to put him on the food they sell, but we dug our feet in on that one. Please tell me the $52/week is a typo. Please?!? Even at a monthly rate, that's horribly expensive for a puppy. And I bet it limits you to the services that vet clinic can provide instead of being able to go anywhere you need to. Does that place have 24/hr. emergency care? Almost every pet owner has to go to one of those at some point. You might want to look over this pet insurance comparison chart site. oops. week is a typo. It's $52 a month with a $100 deductible, thru Trupanion. The cost is higher in Canada, probably. Just like everything is. Going up to correct my typo. My vets office talked me into getting it. We hadn't even thought about it until they started their spiel.
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Post by sharlag on Jul 4, 2014 13:39:40 GMT
Please tell me the $52/week is a typo. Please?!? Even at a monthly rate, that's horribly expensive for a puppy. And I bet it limits you to the services that vet clinic can provide instead of being able to go anywhere you need to. Does that place have 24/hr. emergency care? Almost every pet owner has to go to one of those at some point. You might want to look over this pet insurance comparison chart site. oops. week is a typo. It's $52 a month with a $100 deductible, thru Trupanion. The cost is higher in Canada, probably. Just like everything is. Going up to correct my typo. My vets office talked me into getting it. We hadn't even thought about it until they started their spiel. I was going to ask about the per week as well, but thought, you know, things cost more in Canada....
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Post by Nanner on Jul 4, 2014 13:47:53 GMT
hehe. I'm not at work today, so I don't have to proofread what I type!
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