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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 17:44:06 GMT
Positive meaning you could shed live virus if you go out in public, I'm assuming... but do you feel okay? are you asymptomatic, or are you sick again? what led you to get tested now, if I may ask? and if you are sick again, I hope it's mild and that you get over it without any complications. No I am sick AF again. It was a long process actually. Ex was having chest pains and based on swollen spleen and dd’s history with recurring mono, dr tested ex for mono, which he is positive. He went to the clinic for a hida scan; covid was on no radar. The next day youngest came home from his 2 days a week of hybrid school “not feeling well” and the pediatrician didn’t think mono so sent him straight for a covid test. In the 5 days that it took to get his positive covid test back, ex and I both came down with full blown covid symptoms but the health dept made us wait ten days to test and it took 4 days to get the results. Teenage dd is asymptomatic. My raging high fever seems to be broken finally but if this round is anything like the last, it’s one step forward two steps back. I’m exhausted and frustrated and beside myself watching so many friends on social media throwing fits over thanksgiving and taking group selfies at indoor packed events with masks dangling from their hands because it’s all a hoax... Oh no! I'm so sorry!! I hope feel better soon.
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Post by auntkelly on Nov 16, 2020 21:04:00 GMT
auntkelly a recent study found that the antibodies seem to be gone at about 4 months after infection. Another says could be 6 months or more. Either way, relying on herd immunity by way of everyone in the population contracting the disease is not really a good plan in the short or long term. It's a complete non-starter to be honest. Just to be clear I never said that we should rely on herd immunity and I certainly don't feel that way. I was just responding to a comment about covid reinfection and there being no evidence as to whether covid reinfection can occur. The New York Times article I cited says reinfection has occurred, but it's rare. (According to the article, there had only been three documented cases worldwide of reinfection as per the date of the article which was October 13, 2020).
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 16, 2020 22:22:26 GMT
auntkelly I didn't say that there was no evidence of re-infection. I said that there was not much evidence that you could only get it once, since there have been documented cases of people getting it more than once, and the studies that show that antibodies don't seem to last all that long.
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Post by julie5 on Nov 17, 2020 0:33:58 GMT
My parents in law just went Saturday to a family dinner AT A BUFFET and they were allowed to serve their selves. And my mil has a grand baby coming in a week!!! So say she got exposed, she won’t be symptomatic until after she’s held the child.
I’m beyond frustrated. We are not attending any get togethers at all. I’m so glad to be able to stay home because this is only going to get worse.
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Post by auntkelly on Nov 17, 2020 0:55:49 GMT
auntkelly I didn't say that there was no evidence of re-infection. I said that there was not much evidence that you could only get it once, since there have been documented cases of people getting it more than once, and the studies that show that antibodies don't seem to last all that long. Actually, I was responding to this statement: “Also, there is little to no evidence that having the virus means that you will never get it again.” I cited a NYT article which states that there have been documented cases of reinfection although they are extremely rare, at least at this time. I felt like your statement indicated that there was no evidence whether a person could become reinfected, when in reality there have been documented cases, although they are rare. (I apologize if I misinterpreted your statement. In your response to me you brought up herd immunity, which was an issue I didn’t raise. I just wanted to clarify that I have never advocated any theory of herd immunity.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 17, 2020 1:32:50 GMT
auntkelly maybe the way I wrote it was confusing, but I didn't mean it the way you are interpreting. I was saying that it IS possible to get the virus again, and that the antibodies don't seem to last very long. Therefore, the idea of herd immunity (as someone else upthread was saying) is not a good plan. You didn't say anything about herd immunity, the person that I was responding to did. Hope that makes sense now!
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Post by angel97701 on Nov 17, 2020 4:04:18 GMT
used2scrap So sorry for you and your family! Our schools have yet to open since March. He will go bonkers if the weather gets really nasty b/c he needs his physical exercise, bike riding is his exercise of choice. I'm currently on quarantine for exposure when I paid DS14's tuition at Sylvan. On Tuesday I had a 10-15 minute conversation with the director, we were about 4-6 feet apart both wearing masks. She was told later that morning she had been exposed and went and tested immediately. She was positive. County called me and state is tracking my symptoms. Told me to NOT get tested unless I show symptoms. I have issues with seasonal allergies and our super dry winter air anyway. But my temp is staying low. I'm tempted to ask someone to pick up a pulse-Ox monitor for me. When I was notified I was caring for my high functioning FAS son, as DH was out of town. Self-quarantine away from family members just wasn't an option. If I get it we will all share it I'm afraid, so we are all quarantining. My birthday was yesterday, had take-out Thai food to celebrate. DS's birthday is Thursday, I'll be doing his favorite for the 3 of us, Brisket. He is disappointed that the Grandparents will not be around AT ALL FOR the next 2 weeks. They are both at high risk for pre-existing conditions and age. DSD24 is an ICU nurse in Seattle, and has had several Covid patients. She had one 2 nights ago as they floated from her regular ICU stroke/cardiac floor up to the Covid wing. She is trying to decide if she should come down during her work break just before Thanksgiving, which will be toward the end of my quarantine 11/24. The science of the virus is still emerging, and there are many conflicting reports. Herd immunity? Re-infection with a mutated version of the first round? Effective vaccines? How the virus actually effects the human body? Long term effects from even mild cases? How robust is the virus on surfaces? In droplets from coughing? The truth of what flu season might do on top of Covid? This is an insidious pandemic! What is really confusing to me, is why does China no longer seem to have a huge issue with Covid? What is it they are not telling us?
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Post by samantha25 on Nov 17, 2020 4:59:09 GMT
Here's a story from Denver, bar owner dies with 2 infections of covid, cancer.. really sad...https://www.9news.com/mobile/article/news/health/denver-bar-owner-john-elliott-dies-second-battle-covid-19-cancer-punk-rock-saves-lives/73-5fe105bd-7e96-4530-af06-22afb3b48cc1
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Post by sleepingbooty on Nov 17, 2020 5:36:21 GMT
What is really confusing to me, is why does China no longer seem to have a huge issue with Covid? What is it they are not telling us? They've very likely downplayed their initial death toll and infection numbers. And then when it turned full-on pandemic, they forced their folks into the strictest lockdown of all lockdowns. Our Western lockdowns completely and utterly pale in comparison. The undercover footage of their lockdown and its effects was downright scary and Orwellian. That's the one upside to the dictatorship, I guess... Now they manage through draconian measures for anyone coming into the country on top of their usual extreme surveillance of all citizens through tracking. Everyday life, however, is pretty much back to normal. There's no way Western democracies can impose what they did earlier this year.
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Post by hookturnian on Nov 17, 2020 5:47:20 GMT
Can anyone recommend a good site to use for US numbers? I've been using worldometer but I noticed it has about 4000 more deaths than news headlines report. I'm in Australia so I'm not too clued up about why there might be a discrepancy.
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Post by scrapsuzy on Nov 17, 2020 5:51:20 GMT
auntkelly maybe the way I wrote it was confusing, but I didn't mean it the way you are interpreting. I was saying that it IS possible to get the virus again, and that the antibodies don't seem to last very long. Therefore, the idea of herd immunity (as someone else upthread was saying) is not a good plan. You didn't say anything about herd immunity, the person that I was responding to did. Hope that makes sense now!
I mentioned herd immuniity upthread. But I did not say I thought it was a possibility. So everyone who jumped on me about it needs to re-read what I wrote. I said "...until there is herd immunity..." and I do not believe there ever will be. Just to be clear.
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Post by KiwiJo on Nov 17, 2020 5:54:13 GMT
............ What is really confusing to me, is why does China no longer seem to have a huge issue with Covid? What is it they are not telling us? It’s largely because they had very big and very strict lockdowns, very early on. Here’s a quote from The Lancet (respected weekly peer-reviewed medical journal) The Lancet article on Covid-19The Wuhan lockdown was very very strict - no-one was allowed in or out of the city - that is a city with 9million inhabitants. They set up “border control” checkpoints on all roads in and out, they set up checkpoints within the city because very few people should be out and about. And it worked - if people do not mix with other people, then they cannot spread the infection. China’s borders have been closed for months though they are re-opening to a few countries soon. We did the same thing in NZ, though of course it was much easier for us, a small island country with no road borders; we had a strict full nationwide lockdown early on.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 17, 2020 16:04:19 GMT
FYI, I found out from my hairstylist yesterday (first hair appt. since May-- and yes, we followed all the protocols-- masks, etc.) that she had COVID in June-July, and was SICK SICK SICK for more than three weeks. Dragging, sleeping 22 hours per day, headache and body aches like she'd never had before in her life, etc. And yet she NEVER had a fever.
She said she took her temp 2-3x per day, with three different thermometers, and it NEVER went over 99 degrees. Even though she *felt* like her skin was on fire and burning up, she NEVER had an actual fever. So I don't know how much people should bank on that 'my temp is normal' thing.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Nov 17, 2020 16:28:41 GMT
FYI, I found out from my hairstylist yesterday (first hair appt. since May-- and yes, we followed all the protocols-- masks, etc.) that she had COVID in June-July, and was SICK SICK SICK for more than three weeks. Dragging, sleeping 22 hours per day, headache and body aches like she'd never had before in her life, etc. And yet she NEVER had a fever. She said she took her temp 2-3x per day, with three different thermometers, and it NEVER went over 99 degrees. Even though she *felt* like her skin was on fire and burning up, she NEVER had an actual fever. So I don't know how much people should bank on that 'my temp is normal' thing. If I remember correctly back in maybe April 20% of those hospitalized in New York didn’t have a fever. They were very sick and sick enough to need to be admitted but no fever so while that means most did not all did. I may have the percent wrong and it may have been higher.
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Post by gar on Nov 17, 2020 16:34:19 GMT
She said she took her temp 2-3x per day, with three different thermometers, and it NEVER went over 99 degrees. Even though she *felt* like her skin was on fire and burning up, she NEVER had an actual fever. So I don't know how much people should bank on that 'my temp is normal' thing. I've thought for some time that it clearly isn't a reliable indictor yet many places still seem to use it as a means of allowing or denying people entry to various venues.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 17, 2020 16:36:55 GMT
She said she took her temp 2-3x per day, with three different thermometers, and it NEVER went over 99 degrees. Even though she *felt* like her skin was on fire and burning up, she NEVER had an actual fever. So I don't know how much people should bank on that 'my temp is normal' thing. I've thought for some time that it clearly isn't a reliable indicator yet many places still seem to use it as a means of allowing or denying people entry to various venues.I know. that's what bothers me. 'well, I don't have a fever, so I must be healthy, or it must NOT be COVID.' Bull crap.
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Post by Skellinton on Nov 17, 2020 16:48:12 GMT
She said she took her temp 2-3x per day, with three different thermometers, and it NEVER went over 99 degrees. Even though she *felt* like her skin was on fire and burning up, she NEVER had an actual fever. So I don't know how much people should bank on that 'my temp is normal' thing. I've thought for some time that it clearly isn't a reliable indictor yet many places still seem to use it as a means of allowing or denying people entry to various venues. It is just silly, especially since for some people running a fever may be 99. There has been a lot of research lately saying that the belief that 98.6 is normal is not true, that many people run around 97 normally. My normal temp is 97.1 it seems and I never have fevers, even for me. Used to drive me mom nuts because she never knew if I was faking when I was little. I used to get strep a lot as an adult and was pretty good at recognizing the difference between a strep sore throat and just a sore throat but when I went in to be tested the nurses typically said that since my temp was 97 I wouldn’t have strep, but my test would come back positive. The temp taking is just giving people a false sense of security.
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