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Post by laila2207 on Jul 15, 2021 22:55:25 GMT
Why don't you just use MyUS.com ? I'm in Norway and we are not in the EU. I've been using MyUs.com for years and the shipping is really cheap. You get an American address, MyUs sends your package to you, and that's it. This way you can order stuff from any store in the US.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 16, 2021 5:36:27 GMT
Why don't you just use MyUS.com ? I'm in Norway and we are not in the EU. I've been using MyUs.com for years and the shipping is really cheap. You get an American address, MyUs sends your package to you, and that's it. This way you can order stuff from any store in the US. Because there are far too many problems with tax collection fees at least in my country. Many people are unsatisfied with the extra fees imposed by Fedex and DHL and proxy shipping sites like myUS.com shove the responsibility of the surprise charges (up to almost 50€ a parcel) onto the shipping providers they use. And yes, that is with using the "duties & taxes paid" option on the website. |
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Post by joteves on Aug 11, 2021 21:36:21 GMT
Since the new EU tax laws came into effect on July 1st mail has been even slower than usual, probably piling up at the post office as they figured out how to implement new rules. Anyway, these past few days I received notification on several AE orders I had been waiting for. So now, in order to pass through customs, I have to send them three documents: the invoice, a screenshot of the purchase on the site and proof of payment. Then I have to pay €2 customs fee + 23% VAT on everything, that includes the purchase, shipping and customs fee. So, for example, last month's kit which originally cost me 26.31€ now cost me an extra 8.51€. I have to go through this process because Inked has not registered to charge sales tax on orders from EU customers. If they had then I would pay them the tax directly and my orders wouldn't get stuck in customs every month.
It's a hassle to say the least but at the end of the day, I really like getting the Ali Edwards SBTM physical kit and there is nothing like it in Europe. So I'm going to stick with it at least till the end of the year, then I'll decide what I want to do going forward (maybe switch to digital).
What about other Eu Peas? How have things been for you with international orders?
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 11, 2021 22:09:35 GMT
What about other Eu Peas? How have things been for you with international orders? Inked are annoying for not registering. I haven't been flagged but so far, I've only had one small order from Studio Calico sent to me. I'm considering an AE DD order but I just hope the tax collection fee won't be madness (got a feeling it won't be 2€ in France - heck, it'll probably be in the 10-15€ range  ). I should check to see whether scrapbook.com are collecting the VAT. If not, I'm going to need to think twice about placing orders with them from now on. ETA: SB.com does not collect VAT. Ugh. |
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Post by joteves on Aug 11, 2021 22:39:03 GMT
What about other Eu Peas? How have things been for you with international orders? Inked are annoying for not registering. I haven't been flagged but so far, I've only had one small order from Studio Calico sent to me. I'm considering an AE DD order but I just hope the tax collection fee won't be madness (got a feeling it won't be 2€ in France - heck, it'll probably be in the 10-15€ range ). I should check to see whether scrapbook.com are collecting the VAT. If not, I'm going to need to think twice about placing orders with them from now on. ETA: SB.com does not collect VAT. Ugh. Here it's 2 euros for orders up to 150€. Shame Scrapbook.com is the same as Inked. They're the only US companies I usually buy from. |
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Post by hop2 on Aug 12, 2021 1:48:40 GMT
I did not know that simply not collecting the VAT was possible. I thought there were some sort of repercussions for the business/platform?
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Post by cbscrapper on Aug 12, 2021 4:40:00 GMT
Doesn’t surprise me for Inked. In the US they only collect sales taxes for purchases in states in which they have a physical presence (and one of those states doesn’t have a sales tax). I’m sure they think, why should they have to comply with some other country’s requirements? Let the customer deal with it….
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Post by joteves on Aug 12, 2021 7:41:13 GMT
Doesn’t surprise me for Inked. In the US they only collect sales taxes for purchases in states in which they have a physical presence (and one of those states doesn’t have a sales tax). I’m sure they think, why should they have to comply with some other country’s requirements? Let the customer deal with it…. I totally agree with you; this is typical of Inked. |
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Post by A7 on Aug 12, 2021 8:27:30 GMT
What about other Eu Peas? How have things been for you with international orders? Inked are annoying for not registering. I haven't been flagged but so far, I've only had one small order from Studio Calico sent to me. I'm considering an AE DD order but I just hope the tax collection fee won't be madness (got a feeling it won't be 2€ in France - heck, it'll probably be in the 10-15€ range ). I should check to see whether scrapbook.com are collecting the VAT. If not, I'm going to need to think twice about placing orders with them from now on. ETA: SB.com does not collect VAT. Ugh. Hi everyone. sleepingbooty Actually, it's 2 to 5€ if you pre-register your parcel online. Otherwise, it's 8€. Source : www.laposte.fr/comment-payer-frais-de-douane-colis-international |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 12, 2021 8:52:52 GMT
I'm considering an AE DD order but I just hope the tax collection fee won't be madness (got a feeling it won't be 2€ in France - heck, it'll probably be in the 10-15€ range ). I should check to see whether scrapbook.com are collecting the VAT. If not, I'm going to need to think twice about placing orders with them from now on. Hi everyone. sleepingbooty Actually, it's 2 to 5€ if you pre-register your parcel online. Otherwise, it's 8€. Source : www.laposte.fr/comment-payer-frais-de-douane-colis-internationalOoh, good news! Although I wish I could just register online as soon as the parcel ships and not have to deal with the whole "avis de passage" hoopla and having to go to the post office to collect the parcel during a pandemic (when I went last week, a fight broke out over a woman refusing to wear a mask inside, fun fun fun). Just let me pay and send you the bill pre-emptively so I the parcel can be delivered to me straight away. |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 12, 2021 9:08:57 GMT
I did not know that simply not collecting the VAT was possible. I thought there were some sort of repercussions for the business/platform? The EU cannot legally enforce this is in non-EU countries so they'll have to play smart in how to apply penalties for these businesses. Essentially, when a non-EU business is flagged repeatedly for not collecting VAT, they'll likely go into a database and eventually have their means of operating within the EU cut off as far as possible. The first phase of the VAT collection roll-out mentions cutting them off from being able to sell in the EU through platforms like Ebay, Etsy, etc. Even though these platforms do collect VAT. But down the line, it could very well be hindering their business opportunities by cutting off payment platforms like Paypal. The idea is that since you cannot intervene directly (for obvious sovereignty issues), you make it gradually more difficult. It will not be an issue for Inked for quite a few years. They don't represent enough of a big market within the overall EU landscape to be flagged for quite some time. |
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Post by peachiceteas on Aug 12, 2021 13:10:03 GMT
Then I have to pay €2 customs fee + 23% VAT on everything, that includes the purchase, shipping and customs fee. So, for example, last month's kit which originally cost me 26.31€ now cost me an extra 8.51€. I have to go through this process because Inked has not registered to charge sales tax on orders from EU customers. If they had then I would pay them the tax directly and my orders wouldn't get stuck in customs every month. The realistic alternative is that they stop selling to the EU/UK completely, though. Of course it would be great if they collected VAT at the time of purchase but when you look at the rest of the US scrapbook retail, they just can't be bothered. We're not big enough business for them to invest the time/money/whatever resource into implementing the right systems. I have never had a problem with paying customs and duty when it's been necessary. I would much rather that than the reality of the alternative which is that we cannot purchase from the US at all. AE/SC are the only remaining places I can purchase from in the US. Without them, my hobby would be pretty much over. So I unfortunately can't join the camp of grumbling when you do get taxed by your own country. I would be shouting bring on the taxes if it meant I could purchase albums from Citrus Twist again, or the occasional kit from FYC. |
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Post by peachiceteas on Aug 12, 2021 13:16:56 GMT
sleepingbooty Do you know if this thread is up to date? Is it just Paper Person that you cannot purchase from in the EU? I've checked the other 'main retailer' sites and it seems to be mostly the UK that they won't ship to.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 12, 2021 13:49:59 GMT
sleepingbooty Do you know if this thread is up to date? Is it just Paper Person that you cannot purchase from in the EU? I've checked the other 'main retailer' sites and it seems to be mostly the UK that they won't ship to. I'm shut off from Paper Person and FYC as a EU citizen. Which other main retailers are you looking at? |
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Post by peachiceteas on Aug 12, 2021 14:22:41 GMT
sleepingbooty Do you know if this thread is up to date? Is it just Paper Person that you cannot purchase from in the EU? I've checked the other 'main retailer' sites and it seems to be mostly the UK that they won't ship to. I'm shut off from Paper Person and FYC as a EU citizen. Which other main retailers are you looking at? Citrus Twist and Everyday Explorers only mention the UK, so not sure if you guys were on their list. |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 12, 2021 14:54:28 GMT
I'm shut off from Paper Person and FYC as a EU citizen. Which other main retailers are you looking at? Citrus Twist and Everyday Explorers only mention the UK, so not sure if you guys were on their list. You're correct, EU customers are ok shopping with CT and EE. |
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Post by joteves on Aug 12, 2021 16:46:24 GMT
Then I have to pay €2 customs fee + 23% VAT on everything, that includes the purchase, shipping and customs fee. So, for example, last month's kit which originally cost me 26.31€ now cost me an extra 8.51€. I have to go through this process because Inked has not registered to charge sales tax on orders from EU customers. If they had then I would pay them the tax directly and my orders wouldn't get stuck in customs every month. The realistic alternative is that they stop selling to the EU/UK completely, though. Of course it would be great if they collected VAT at the time of purchase but when you look at the rest of the US scrapbook retail, they just can't be bothered. We're not big enough business for them to invest the time/money/whatever resource into implementing the right systems. I have never had a problem with paying customs and duty when it's been necessary. I would much rather that than the reality of the alternative which is that we cannot purchase from the US at all. AE/SC are the only remaining places I can purchase from in the US. Without them, my hobby would be pretty much over. So I unfortunately can't join the camp of grumbling when you do get taxed by your own country. I would be shouting bring on the taxes if it meant I could purchase albums from Citrus Twist again, or the occasional kit from FYC. Oh I agree. It's not the taxes that bother me so much, it's the extra steps needed to get my order every month. If AE charged me the taxes straight away it would be much easier. I am grateful that I can still get products from the US as otherwise my hobby would be difficult to keep going. |
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Post by peachiceteas on Aug 12, 2021 16:51:15 GMT
The realistic alternative is that they stop selling to the EU/UK completely, though. Of course it would be great if they collected VAT at the time of purchase but when you look at the rest of the US scrapbook retail, they just can't be bothered. We're not big enough business for them to invest the time/money/whatever resource into implementing the right systems. I have never had a problem with paying customs and duty when it's been necessary. I would much rather that than the reality of the alternative which is that we cannot purchase from the US at all. AE/SC are the only remaining places I can purchase from in the US. Without them, my hobby would be pretty much over. So I unfortunately can't join the camp of grumbling when you do get taxed by your own country. I would be shouting bring on the taxes if it meant I could purchase albums from Citrus Twist again, or the occasional kit from FYC. Oh I agree. It's not the taxes that bother me so much, it's the extra steps needed to get my order every month. If AE charged me the taxes straight away it would be much easier. I am grateful that I can still get products from the US as otherwise my hobby would be difficult to keep going. I agree with that too. Paying up front would save time on what is already such a lengthy process. I get particularly miffed when it takes AE or SC six days to send me a shipping notification because that's another week and a half I've lost before it even sets off on it's journey. Trying to stay soooo patient though as local options are limited. It's such a shame we rely so much on the US for scrapbooking supplies. |
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Post by cbscrapper on Aug 13, 2021 2:28:55 GMT
Ooh, good news! Although I wish I could just register online as soon as the parcel ships and not have to deal with the whole "avis de passage" hoopla and having to go to the post office to collect the parcel during a pandemic (when I went last week, a fight broke out over a woman refusing to wear a mask inside, fun fun fun). Just let me pay and send you the bill pre-emptively so I the parcel can be delivered to me straight away. I thought that kind of crap was only happening in the US…at least that’s how it’s generally portrayed. |
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Post by suzyuk111 on Aug 13, 2021 8:36:37 GMT
Joann’s ship to a lot of countries including the UK & EU. They also say VAT will be calculated and taken when you order. I know their range isn’t extensive for scrapbooking but as a Brit scrapper it is a possibility for basics.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 13, 2021 9:02:11 GMT
Ooh, good news! Although I wish I could just register online as soon as the parcel ships and not have to deal with the whole "avis de passage" hoopla and having to go to the post office to collect the parcel during a pandemic (when I went last week, a fight broke out over a woman refusing to wear a mask inside, fun fun fun). Just let me pay and send you the bill pre-emptively so I the parcel can be delivered to me straight away. I thought that kind of crap was only happening in the US…at least that’s how it’s generally portrayed. No, it's happening everywhere but the US situation of hyper instrumentalised anti-masking is definitely unique. She was just being an asshole pretending her mask broke so the postal office worker said she could buy one from them right there or leave. She continued to pretend she didn't have any money because she thought they wouldn't accept a payment by bank card for 1€ for the mask. Unfortunately for her, they accepted the 1€ payment by card. Then she wore it as a chin diaper. Some guy told her she was mocking the rules at this stage and she started shouting that he needed to mind his own business and get vaccinated. It was ridiculous but not the overarching anti-masking, anti-liberal political stance fire that is being stoked in the US. Don't get me started on the Dutch tourists at the bakery who pretended they didn't know you had to wear a mask indoors in France. "We don't have to wear masks indoors in the Netherlands! Why should we here?" Fuck off and vacation in your own home country then. My patience is running thin with the woe-is-me crowd during Delta. |
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Post by A7 on Aug 13, 2021 16:09:27 GMT
Ooh, good news! Although I wish I could just register online as soon as the parcel ships and not have to deal with the whole "avis de passage" hoopla and having to go to the post office to collect the parcel during a pandemic You can do that. 😊Type your shipping number into your account on the website, pay 5€ tops and you should receive your parcel at your door as always. |
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