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Post by Merge on Feb 3, 2021 23:17:29 GMT
This is an interesting story of trump admin people wanting a "handout". Why would you think your parental leave would extend thru to a new administration? My guess is because you thought the trump admin would remain in power. Yeah it sucks but that's what happens when you lose your job. What say the peas? I’d be more sympathetic to their cause if the Republicans who want credit for passing this bill had mandated paid parental leave for ALL employees, and not just federal ones. Easy to pass a bill that directly benefits your own party’s political appointees without any thought for the millions of parents who [checks memory] get no paid leave at all, and then take a parting shot at the new administration because it didn’t make a special exemption for your folks. If these people are Trump appointees, they’re likely unqualified trust fund babies anyway. Let them hit up mom and dad for the difference. |
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Post by artgirl1 on Feb 3, 2021 23:20:39 GMT
I want to point out that this Parental Leave program was the pet project and major accomplishment of Bimbo Barbie Ivanka. And it only applied to children born (adopted etc) on or after October 1, 2020. Once again an example of an Administration that did not know how to look at the big picture, and all contingencies.
Ivanka claimed that this policy was "monumental to the benefit of parents and children" however, it only applied to a select few, and the Administration refused to extend this policy beyond the select few it benefited.
Apparently not such a great accomplishment.
And now, let me get out my tiny violin for the poor (very few) people that this decision of the Biden's Administration affects.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 3, 2021 23:21:13 GMT
This is an interesting story of trump admin people wanting a "handout". Why would you think your parental leave would extend thru to a new administration? My guess is because you thought the trump admin would remain in power. Yeah it sucks but that's what happens when you lose your job. What say the peas? I’d be more sympathetic to their cause if the Republicans who want credit for passing this bill had mandated paid parental leave for ALL employees, and not just federal ones. Easy to pass a bill that directly benefits your own party’s political appointees without any thought for the millions of parents who [checks memory] get no paid leave at all, and then take a parting shot at the new administration because it didn’t make a special exemption for your folks. If these people are Trump appointees, they’re likely unqualified trust fund babies anyway. Let them hit up mom and dad for the difference. Huh? The paid federal leave bill passed in 2019 impacted 2.1 million federal employees - this wasn't just for the 4,000 political appointees. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 3, 2021 23:23:43 GMT
I’d be more sympathetic to their cause if the Republicans who want credit for passing this bill had mandated paid parental leave for ALL employees, and not just federal ones. Easy to pass a bill that directly benefits your own party’s political appointees without any thought for the millions of parents who [checks memory] get no paid leave at all, and then take a parting shot at the new administration because it didn’t make a special exemption for your folks. If these people are Trump appointees, they’re likely unqualified trust fund babies anyway. Let them hit up mom and dad for the difference. Huh? The paid federal leave bill passed in 2019 impacted 2.1 million federal employees - this wasn't just for the 4,000 political appointees. How many millions of private sector employees were not included? They’re willing to pay federal employees for parental leave using our tax dollars, but the majority of taxpayers don’t get the same benefit. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 3, 2021 23:24:52 GMT
I want to point out that this Parental Leave program was the pet project and major accomplishment of Bimbo Barbie Ivanka. And it only applied to children born (adopted etc) on October 1, 2020. Once again an example of an Administration that did not know how to look at the big picture, and all contingencies. Ivanka claimed that this policy was "monumental to the benefit of parents and children" however, it only applied to a select few, and the Administration refused to extend this policy beyond the select few it benefited. Apparently not such a great accomplishment. And now, let me get out my tiny violin for the poor (very few) people that this decision of the Biden's Administration affects. Oh good lord. The bill was passed at the end of 2019 and went into effect on October 1, 2020 - so yes that's the effective date - but it impacts all federal employees who adopt or give birth on or AFTER that date. This thread is going completely off the rails - at least try and stay somewhere in the lane of facts. I mean the bill was co-sponsored by 5 Democrats and passed with huge bipartisan appeal - so let's not pretend that this is some narrow Trump bill for Trump appointees. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 3, 2021 23:26:43 GMT
I want to point out that this Parental Leave program was the pet project and major accomplishment of Bimbo Barbie Ivanka. And it only applied to children born (adopted etc) on October 1, 2020. Once again an example of an Administration that did not know how to look at the big picture, and all contingencies. Ivanka claimed that this policy was "monumental to the benefit of parents and children" however, it only applied to a select few, and the Administration refused to extend this policy beyond the select few it benefited. Apparently not such a great accomplishment. And now, let me get out my tiny violin for the poor (very few) people that this decision of the Biden's Administration affects. Oh good lord. The bill was passed at the end of 2019 and went into effect on October 1, 2020 - so yes that's the effective date - but it impacts all federal employees who adopt or give birth on or AFTER that date. This thread is going completely off the rails - at least try and stay somewhere in the lane of facts. I mean the bill was co-sponsored by 5 Democrats and passed with huge bipartisan appeal - so let's not pretend that this is some narrow Trump bill for Trump appointees. The people complaining here are Trump appointees. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 3, 2021 23:29:07 GMT
Huh? The paid federal leave bill passed in 2019 impacted 2.1 million federal employees - this wasn't just for the 4,000 political appointees. How many millions of private sector employees were not included? They’re willing to pay federal employees for parental leave using our tax dollars, but the majority of taxpayers don’t get the same benefit. I think this is what one terms a first step. Representative Maloney - the chief sponsor has spent two decades introducing and fighting for the legislation - but go for the all or nothing strategy. www.americanbar.org/advocacy/governmental_legislative_work/publications/washingtonletter/january_2020/paid-family-leave/ |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 3, 2021 23:36:35 GMT
They are political appointees not federal employees. They knew their employment and benefits ended Jan 20th. 100% this. They had to know when they conceived that this could be a distinct possibility. Sucks when the policies your party supports turn around to bite you in your own ass. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 3, 2021 23:48:11 GMT
Or they planned it that way to be able to get paid for the last weeks/months of the administration while home on paid leave extending past the change over?.
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Post by elaine on Feb 4, 2021 0:12:42 GMT
Does that article point out that the woman in question's husband was literally the head of the Michigan GOP and trying to overturn Biden's election? The Trump administration was uniquely hostile to a peaceful transition of power. That's why he was impeached. That's why we are where we are. Yes, his political appointees are going to get house-cleaned more quickly than they would have in prior administrations, because they were part of an administration that was refusing to concede losing the election, sought to undermine public confidence in the election results, and sparked an insurrection. Yes, every parent should get paid parental leave. I'd bet a finger that the family here opposes legislating any such thing for the masses. I interviewed for my current job while toting a nursing baby on a nationwide interview tour. And I'd had that baby over spring break at a contingent faculty job where I didn't have parental leave, and was back teaching three days later. It sucks. But it does not suck uniquely for these folks, and this is definitely a lay down with dogs, get up with fleas situation. My husband was an political appointee to the Department of Education under Obama. He was informed in early January 2017 that his last day would be 1/19/17. Biden certainly hasn’t cleaned house more quickly than Trump. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 4, 2021 0:53:41 GMT
Thanks, I will. Because in my experience, neither party is willing to piss off its donors by mandating legal protections for private sector workers that are already enjoyed by those whose federal level salaries and benefits are paid by those same workers. Taking from working and middle class Americans to give a benefit to a certain subset of people, not based on need, but on the luck of being employed by the federal government, is not a first step toward anything except continued oligarchy. No one - not federal employees, not members of congress, not the president - should be enjoying federally mandated safety net protections at the expense of taxpayers who do not enjoy the same protections. |
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Post by hop2 on Feb 4, 2021 1:33:13 GMT
I guess states mandate parental leave? Because I had parental leave, 12 weeks, back in 1997 thru unemployment. ( which is taken out of my paycheck and I think somehow matched by the employer? ) I went back to work remotely for several weeks then quit when I finished up my projects. At the time I worked for a really small company with just 5 people so it wasn’t any big corporate thing.
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 4, 2021 1:45:22 GMT
I guess states mandate parental leave? Because I had parental leave, 12 weeks, back in 1997 thru unemployment. ( which is taken out of my paycheck and I think somehow matched by the employer? ) I went back to work remotely for several weeks then quit when I finished up my projects. At the time I worked for a really small company with just 5 people so it wasn’t any big corporate thing. Not all of them. In fact, when I was unable to take any leave, paid or unpaid, after my second child, I was a state employee. |
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Post by refugeepea on Feb 4, 2021 2:05:20 GMT
Hmmm. What about all those normal people who face this all. the. time. in this nation that has no paid parental leave, thanks to your party? For them, it's an issue of personal responsibility, according to your party. But I guess these folks think they're special. Screw them. ETA: Of course I think EVERYONE should have paid parental leave and something like this shouldn’t happen, even to political appointees. But I’m having a hard time feeling much sympathy for people who don’t give a shit about a huge issue that affects millions of people until it personally affects them. Yeah, you have to if you got to pay the bills. I went back full time before my daughter was two months old and I'm sure she has more education than me. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Feb 4, 2021 2:38:18 GMT
this! Hold on, I’m confused. This is the system their party WANTS. They want people tied to employers to maintain healthcare and leave entitlements. They worked for the party that ran on rolling back the ACA - with absolutely nothing to replace it, I might add. They blocked fundamental stuff from being in the ACA. and to reiterate, I'm quoting myself: REAL PEOPLE are forced to figure this stuff out ALL.THE.TIME. These people are NOT special just because they worked for the White House. |
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Post by hop2 on Feb 4, 2021 2:50:52 GMT
I guess states mandate parental leave? Because I had parental leave, 12 weeks, back in 1997 thru unemployment. ( which is taken out of my paycheck and I think somehow matched by the employer? ) I went back to work remotely for several weeks then quit when I finished up my projects. At the time I worked for a really small company with just 5 people so it wasn’t any big corporate thing. Not all of them. In fact, when I was unable to take any leave, paid or unpaid, after my second child, I was a state employee. Huh. Weird that it’s so hit or miss randomly. |
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