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Post by maryland on Apr 15, 2021 17:16:47 GMT
Sorry for all my vaccine questions! I learn so much here.
I had a thread a couple days ago about pfizer vaccine. I have another question. My daughter had covid in Nov. My mil said she won't need to get a second dose because she had covid. That would solve my problem (in the other thread) where I said she would get her second dose the day before or day of prom. If you had covid, did you have to get a second dose?
We were really hoping JJ would be back and she could get that. But it looks like it will have to be pfizer.
ETA after reading response - My mil is very careful of covid stuff. We both heard on the news at one time that covid patients may not need a second vaccine. Obviously I know now that they realized they do need a second dose. I just called mil and told her and she said that it's good that we know and she can get her second vaccine scheduled. She is NOT anti-vax, she is very pro vaccine.
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Post by beepdave on Apr 15, 2021 17:18:04 GMT
Yes - she must get her second dose!
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Apr 15, 2021 17:20:20 GMT
Yes, you get the second dose.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 15, 2021 17:22:55 GMT
There is no difference in the vaccine recommendations whether you've had covid or not, so yes she needs the second shot.
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Post by christine58 on Apr 15, 2021 17:36:46 GMT
My daughter had covid in Nov. My mil said she won't need to get a second dose because she had covid. That would solve my problem (in the other thread) where I said she would get her second dose the day before or day of prom. If you had covid, did you have to get a second dose? Your MIL is WRONG
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Post by blue tulip on Apr 15, 2021 17:42:00 GMT
can you just schedule her vaccine a week later, so the second dose can be a week after prom? i really wouldn't be doing it the a day or 2 before and just hoping it will go well. most of my friends have had at least 1 day of feeling crappy after the second dose.
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Post by maryland on Apr 15, 2021 17:56:00 GMT
Thank you! I heard at one time they were saying that was a possiblity, but I haven't heard that recently. And with people getting covid twice, I figured they now must thing a second dose is necessary.
I appreciate your replies!
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Post by maryland on Apr 15, 2021 17:56:45 GMT
can you just schedule her vaccine a week later, so the second dose can be a week after prom? i really wouldn't be doing it the a day or 2 before and just hoping it will go well. most of my friends have had at least 1 day of feeling crappy after the second dose. I will ask if that's an option. Hopefully it is!
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Post by angieh1996 on Apr 15, 2021 17:59:19 GMT
I had covid in November. I've had both doses of the Moderna vaccine. Your mother in law is wrong.
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Post by christine58 on Apr 15, 2021 18:00:23 GMT
Thank you! I heard at one time they were saying that was a possiblity, but I haven't heard that recently. And with people getting covid twice, I figured they now must thing a second dose is necessary. I appreciate your replies! A second dose has always been necessary. Not sure where your MIL got her information. I know of at least 5 people who had COVID and have had both doses of either pfizer or moderna.
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Post by Monica* on Apr 15, 2021 18:02:17 GMT
can you just schedule her vaccine a week later, so the second dose can be a week after prom? i really wouldn't be doing it the a day or 2 before and just hoping it will go well. most of my friends have had at least 1 day of feeling crappy after the second dose. I will ask if that's an option. Hopefully it is! I had Covid in January and got my first Pfizer vax three weeks ago. My second dose is scheduled for next week (four weeks out instead of three). And this was at our city's big max drive thru vax extravaganza, so I wasn't the only one. I think it's well within the "window". I would push it out another week.
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Post by bc2ca on Apr 15, 2021 18:09:03 GMT
Yes, we are all getting our second doses.
FWIW, I know I read/heard that if you already had COVID, your reaction to the 1st dose is more like the 2nd dose reaction for people who did not have COVID. The reaction to the 2nd dose is minimal.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Apr 15, 2021 18:32:41 GMT
This is really not intended as a smack down, but hopefully a gentle nudge about the way you get and confirm vaccine information. This is an opportunity for your daughter to learn from you - and not her grandmother! - how to access important health information for the rest of her life. The answer to your question is readily available by going to the CDC site, the FDA, your state and county health department sites, any of the retail dispensers, the vaccine manufacturers, your health insurance (including call line), googling mainstream articles, or by calling your physician or your daughter’s pediatrician. It seems your MIL either uses none of these sources or she misunderstands those sources or she gets information from social media or word of mouth ... and then further spreads it. This forum IS social media. You could get info here that is as dangerously incorrect as your MIL’s info. Vaccine discussion with family/friends - or here - is valuable only if you verify it with a professional source, such as... CDC: www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/Pfizer-BioNTech.htmlFDA: www.fda.gov/media/144414/downloadMy state: www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/vaccine-faqMy county: cookcountypublichealth.org/communicable-diseases/covid-19/covid-vaccine/Walgreens: www.walgreens.com/topic/promotion/covid-vaccine.jspCVS: cvshealth.com/covid-19/vaccine-informationMy health insurance: www.bcbs.com/coronavirus-updates/stories/your-questions-about-the-covid-19-vaccines-answeredI was about to Google the American Academy of Pediatricians, but I’ve run out of steam. Good luck with daughter and her vaccine scheduling. Really. I know you’ve had a lot of vaccine anxiety ... it’s just so important to lean on credible sources to allay that anxiety and to get accurate information about protocols and requirements.
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Post by scraphappy0501 on Apr 15, 2021 18:57:24 GMT
Yes, we are all getting our second doses. FWIW, I know I read/heard that if you already had COVID, your reaction to the 1st dose is more like the 2nd dose reaction for people who did not have COVID. The reaction to the 2nd dose is minimal. That's what I'd heard as well, directly from the National Guard member who gave me my 1st dose of Pfizer. I had Covid in March 2020. I've been donating blood with the Red Cross and they test for Covid antibodies. I donated this March and still had antibodies. A week later got my 1st vaccine. I had a mild reaction (chills and fatigue for a few hours.) I had my second dose last week. 18 hours after that I started getting a headache and mild body aches, which progressed into a low grade fever and pretty good chills along with fatigue. By the next morning I felt pretty good again. So I definitely had a worse reaction with my 2nd dose DH also had Covid in March 2020 but a mild case (I'd say I had a moderate case.) He also got the Pfizer vaccine. He had a little fatigue after his first dose. He had his second dose this week and it hit him much harder than it did me. After three days he still has a low fever and fatigue and he's had pretty bad night sweats the past few nights. So both of us who had Covid and got two doses of vaccine still had pretty good immune responses to the second dose. I'm a scientist but immunology is not my area of expertise by any stretch of the imagination, but I'd think that if my body is still having a noticeable immune response that some additional antibodies are being made, which should be good for my immune system.
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Post by maryland on Apr 15, 2021 19:08:29 GMT
Yes, we are all getting our second doses. FWIW, I know I read/heard that if you already had COVID, your reaction to the 1st dose is more like the 2nd dose reaction for people who did not have COVID. The reaction to the 2nd dose is minimal. Interesting, thanks! That's good to know.
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Post by used2scrap on Apr 15, 2021 19:12:36 GMT
Yes, we are all getting our second doses. FWIW, I know I read/heard that if you already had COVID, your reaction to the 1st dose is more like the 2nd dose reaction for people who did not have COVID. The reaction to the 2nd dose is minimal. Anecdotally in my circle this has not been the case so individual mileage may vary.
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Post by maryland on Apr 15, 2021 19:25:02 GMT
This is really not intended as a smack down, but hopefully a gentle nudge about the way you get and confirm vaccine information. This is an opportunity for your daughter to learn from you - and not her grandmother! - how to access important health information for the rest of her life. The answer to your question is readily available by going to the CDC site, the FDA, your state and county health department sites, any of the retail dispensers, the vaccine manufacturers, your health insurance (including call line), googling mainstream articles, or by calling your physician or your daughter’s pediatrician. It seems your MIL either uses none of these sources or she misunderstands those sources or she gets information from social media or word of mouth ... and then further spreads it. This forum IS social media. You could get info here that is as dangerously incorrect as your MIL’s info. Vaccine discussion with family/friends - or here - is valuable only if you verify it with a professional source, such as... CDC: www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/Pfizer-BioNTech.htmlFDA: www.fda.gov/media/144414/downloadMy state: www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/vaccine-faqMy county: cookcountypublichealth.org/communicable-diseases/covid-19/covid-vaccine/Walgreens: www.walgreens.com/topic/promotion/covid-vaccine.jspCVS: cvshealth.com/covid-19/vaccine-informationMy health insurance: www.bcbs.com/coronavirus-updates/stories/your-questions-about-the-covid-19-vaccines-answeredI was about to Google the American Academy of Pediatricians, but I’ve run out of steam. Good luck with daughter and her vaccine scheduling. Really. I know you’ve had a lot of vaccine anxiety ... it’s just so important to lean on credible sources to allay that anxiety and to get accurate information about protocols and requirements. She was just telling me what she heard about the second dose. She is 81 and works as a translater (she speaks 4 languages) at a hospital. She heard on the news a report about whether covid patients need a second dose. I heard it too. Obviously things changed since we heard that. I know I sound like an idiot because I am scared of the vaccine.
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Post by peabay on Apr 15, 2021 19:35:10 GMT
My daughter had Covid in January and is absolutely getting a second dose.
And when it comes to this? There are no stupid questions.
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Post by maryland on Apr 15, 2021 19:36:33 GMT
My daughter had Covid in January and is absolutely getting a second dose. And when it comes to this? There are no stupid questions. Thank you! I am full of questions because I have no one to talk to about this and this was the place I felt comfortable asking.
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Post by rodeomom on Apr 15, 2021 19:49:52 GMT
Yes, we are all getting our second doses. FWIW, I know I read/heard that if you already had COVID, your reaction to the 1st dose is more like the 2nd dose reaction for people who did not have COVID. The reaction to the 2nd dose is minimal. Anecdotally in my circle this has not been the case so individual mileage may vary. My SIL's cousin got covid pretty bad. He's reactions to both doses were pretty bad as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 20:03:30 GMT
Can you ask her pediatrician what they recommend? (Or if your daughter is already 18 and legally you no longer can call--darn HIPAA lol--your daughter could call.(
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Post by maryland on Apr 15, 2021 20:25:22 GMT
Anecdotally in my circle this has not been the case so individual mileage may vary. My SIL's cousin got covid pretty bad. He's reactions to both doses were pretty bad as well. That's good to know so we know what to expect. Thanks!
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Post by maryland on Apr 15, 2021 20:29:44 GMT
Can you ask her pediatrician what they recommend? (Or if your daughter is already 18 and legally you no longer can call--darn HIPAA lol--your daughter could call.( You are right, they can't talk to me now! I called them last week to ask if she had to get it at the office because of her immediate reaction to her past 2 vaccines (last summer and Nov.). But they weren't concerned at all and said she could go anywhere.
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Post by littlemama on Apr 15, 2021 21:40:59 GMT
Sorry for all my vaccine questions! I learn so much here.
I had a thread a couple days ago about pfizer vaccine. I have another question. My daughter had covid in Nov. My mil said she won't need to get a second dose because she had covid. That would solve my problem (in the other thread) where I said she would get her second dose the day before or day of prom. If you had covid, did you have to get a second dose?
We were really hoping JJ would be back and she could get that. But it looks like it will have to be pfizer.
ETA after reading response - My mil is very careful of covid stuff. We both heard on the news at one time that covid patients may not need a second vaccine. Obviously I know now that they realized they do need a second dose. I just called mil and told her and she said that it's good that we know and she can get her second vaccine scheduled. She is NOT anti-vax, she is very pro vaccine.
My friend who had covid in November and had not regained her sense of smell, is starting to get it back since her second dose
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 15, 2021 21:49:01 GMT
My friend who had covid in November and had not regained her sense of small, is starting to get it back since her second dose I recently read a couple news stories online about COVID long-haulers who seem to be getting relief from some of their symptoms after getting vaccinated. If that's true, it's GREAT! (I don't know if I saw those links here, or where exactly I found them.)
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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 15, 2021 21:54:39 GMT
Yes, we are all getting our second doses. FWIW, I know I read/heard that if you already had COVID, your reaction to the 1st dose is more like the 2nd dose reaction for people who did not have COVID. The reaction to the 2nd dose is minimal. That's what I'd heard as well, directly from the National Guard member who gave me my 1st dose of Pfizer. Please understand that the Natl Guard member may be simply a person they trained to administer a vaccine, and not a medical professional.
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Post by maryland on Apr 15, 2021 22:16:12 GMT
That's what I'd heard as well, directly from the National Guard member who gave me my 1st dose of Pfizer. Please understand that the Natl Guard member may be simply a person they trained to administer a vaccine, and not a medical professional. I didn't realize that. I thought they were Natl Guard nurses, doctors or pharmacists. But I was curious, so that's good information.
My daughter will have her BSN in 2 weeks! I told her I should hold out until she could vaccinate me!
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Post by ntsf on Apr 15, 2021 22:44:07 GMT
yeah.. the guy who gave me the vaccine was an emt on a wildfire hotshot crew from the national forest service from 1/2 state away. not even local
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Post by christine58 on Apr 15, 2021 22:48:24 GMT
That's what I'd heard as well, directly from the National Guard member who gave me my 1st dose of Pfizer. Please understand that the Natl Guard member may be simply a person they trained to administer a vaccine, and not a medical professional. It was my understanding that a you had to be a nurse, CNA etc to administer the shot??
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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 15, 2021 23:02:52 GMT
Please understand that the Natl Guard member may be simply a person they trained to administer a vaccine, and not a medical professional. It was my understanding that a you had to be a nurse, CNA etc to administer the shot?? That is not the requirement according to the guidance as published by the Department of Health and Human Services: www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/12/18/guidance-for-national-guard-personnel-regarding-covid-19-vaccines-immunity-under-prep-act.htmlAccording to this (and subject to state/local law): Such Guardsmen will qualify as “covered persons” under the PREP Act, subject to other applicable requirements of the Act and the requirements discussed below. They may also receive immunity under the PREP Act with respect to all claims for loss caused by, arising out of, relating to, or resulting from, the administration or use of FDA-authorized or FDA-licensed COVID-19 vaccines. 42 U.S.C. § 247d-6d(a)(1).
To qualify as “covered persons” under 42 U.S.C. § 247d-6d((i)(8)(B) when administering FDA-authorized or licensed COVID-19 vaccines, Guardsmen must satisfy the following requirements:
The vaccine must be FDA-authorized or FDA-licensed. The vaccination must be ordered and administered according to the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices’ (ACIP’s) COVID-19 vaccine recommendation. The Guardsman must be authorized by his or her National Guard unit to administer vaccines. The Guardsman must have a current certificate in basic cardiopulmonary resuscitation. This requirement is satisfied by, among other things, a certification in basic cardiopulmonary resuscitation by an online program that has received accreditation from the American Nurses Credentialing Center, the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education, or the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education. The Guardsman must comply with recordkeeping and reporting requirements of the jurisdiction in which he or she administers vaccines, including informing the patient’s primary-care provider when available, submitting the required immunization information to the State or local immunization information system (vaccine registry), complying with requirements related to reporting adverse events, and complying with requirements whereby the person administering a vaccine must review the vaccine registry or other vaccination records prior to administering a vaccine. The Guardsman must comply with any applicable requirements (or conditions of use) as set forth in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) COVID-19 vaccination program provider agreement and any other federal requirements that apply to the administration of COVID-19 vaccine(s). This authorization preempts any State and local law that prohibits or effectively prohibits those who satisfy these requirements from ordering or administering COVID-19 vaccines as set forth above.3 But this authorization shall not preempt State and local laws that permit additional individuals to administer COVID-19 vaccines to additional persons.4
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