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Post by pinklady on Aug 27, 2021 21:52:33 GMT
This was before my time but WOW!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 27, 2021 22:05:43 GMT
Not before mine.... I guess he is old and hopefully infirm.
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Post by scrapmaven on Aug 27, 2021 22:51:58 GMT
Just because you're old doesn't mean that you didn't take a life. Though it sounds like he tried to make amends to Robert Kennedy's sons, he still committed murder. He should die in prison, because he is a murderer, but if the family has forgiven him and they want to make peace then so much the better for the family.
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Post by papersilly on Aug 27, 2021 23:07:01 GMT
I'm ok with him being granted parole. The family seems to be ok with it and, at 77 years old, I doubt he's a threat to society anymore.
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Post by MichyM on Aug 27, 2021 23:36:01 GMT
I’m most definitely NOT ok with this. I don’t care how many years he’s served or how old he is. He assassinated another man in cold blood. He can rot in prison. IMHO there are no extenuating circumstances to warrant early release. Please note: I may be missing something as I’m in my car waiting for someone and I’m not going to Google right now.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 27, 2021 23:39:09 GMT
We saw it on TV. He did it!!
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Aug 27, 2021 23:54:21 GMT
I’m most definitely NOT ok with this. I don’t care how many years he’s served or how old he is. He assassinated another man in cold blood. He can rot in prison. IMHO there are no extenuating circumstances to warrant early release. Please note: I may be missing something as I’m in my car waiting for someone and I’m not going to Google right now. I am not ok with this either. Not at all. |
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Post by Zee on Aug 27, 2021 23:56:11 GMT
He's an assassin. I can't even believe this.
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 28, 2021 0:13:33 GMT
He is old, and he has served a sentence longer than he would serve in peer countries.
RFK’s kids met with him and not just said they were OK, but advocated for his release.
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Post by mom on Aug 28, 2021 0:15:25 GMT
He is old, and he has served a sentence longer than he would serve in peer countries. RFK’s kids met with him and not just said they were OK, but advocated for his release.This is the only reason I am even slightly ok with it. Had they been against it, I would be in favor of him rotting in jail. |
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Post by magellen on Aug 28, 2021 10:59:24 GMT
He needs to stay where his is at.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 12:22:31 GMT
Some of RFK’s children (2 were for, 6 against) along with the other man injured in the assassination decided mercy was the way for them. Couple of other thoughts taken from article below. - Sirhan was sentenced to death but CA law prohibiting capital punishment was enacted before he was executed. - He’s been confined for 53 years. - This was his 16th attempt at parole. If he could apply every 3 years that means he’s been applying (and denied) parole for 48 years. - The State decided not to contest so there were no lawyers at the video hearing. - Full board has 120 days to deny/approve. - Then Governor has 30 days to deny/approve. www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1277832 |
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Post by pinklady on Aug 28, 2021 14:09:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 14:12:35 GMT
He is old, and he has served a sentence longer than he would serve in peer countries. RFK’s kids met with him and not just said they were OK, but advocated for his release. I guess they have a great deal of empathy. Something many here call for. And here it is, in practice. It's easy to have empathy for "good people", harder for those who have committed terrible crimes. |
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Post by elaine on Aug 28, 2021 14:42:00 GMT
I’m most definitely NOT ok with this. I don’t care how many years he’s served or how old he is. He assassinated another man in cold blood. He can rot in prison. IMHO there are no extenuating circumstances to warrant early release. Please note: I may be missing something as I’m in my car waiting for someone and I’m not going to Google right now. Yes. And he assassinated someone who may have changed the course of our country and impacted hundreds of millions of people’s lives in untold ways. The issue, to me, is not that he is no longer a danger to anyone. He assassinated someone and shouldn’t be granted the privilege to freely enjoy many of the things in life that he robbed Kennedy of. |
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Post by elaine on Aug 28, 2021 14:45:10 GMT
So, if this letter is genuine, Kennedy’s children are NOT advocating for Sirhan’s release. Why is there contradictory opinions about this out there? On this thread even? |
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Post by pinklady on Aug 28, 2021 14:47:16 GMT
So, if this letter is genuine, Kennedy’s children are NOT advocating for Sirhan’s release. Why is there contradictory opinions about this out there? On this thread even? Two of his kids are ok with it and met him in person. The others are not ok with it. |
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Post by elaine on Aug 28, 2021 14:51:13 GMT
So, if this letter is genuine, Kennedy’s children are NOT advocating for Sirhan’s release. Why is there contradictory opinions about this out there? On this thread even? Two of his kids are ok with it and met him in person. The others are not ok with it. So, the will of 2 is more important than the will and wishes of 6? Even here at NSBR? Or are people just unaware that actually the majority of his children (he had 11 children) aren’t okay with Sirhan’s release? |
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Post by Zee on Aug 28, 2021 14:52:29 GMT
It's not a question of empathy, it's the fact that he's an assassin and should never again see the light of day. His age or how x number of RFK's children feel about it is irrelevant.
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Post by pinklady on Aug 28, 2021 15:05:09 GMT
Two of his kids are ok with it and met him in person. The others are not ok with it. So, the will of 2 is more important than the will and wishes of 6? Even here at NSBR? Or are people just unaware that actually the majority of his children (he had 11 children) aren’t okay with Sirhan’s release? This whole thing is weird. Hopefully Newsom will override this and deny his parole. As a side note, these 6 children should NOT have stayed quiet. I’m guessing their “declining to engage directly” was a factor. |
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 28, 2021 15:10:28 GMT
He is old, and he has served a sentence longer than he would serve in peer countries.RFK’s kids met with him and not just said they were OK, but advocated for his release.
Bold mine. I agree, and largely for this reason. Same reason I thought that Leslie van Houten should be paroled after 40some years and an exemplary prison record. Governor Newsom overturning the parole board on the basis she was a danger to society was just caving to public pressure and I didn’t think we as the public should be driving these parole decisions, which is also what I think of Sirhan. I’m of a couple minds about victim family influence. (Yes, I understand that if we had a downvote option here, I’d be deluged.) |
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 28, 2021 15:36:56 GMT
I watched that murder happen on tv.
I am of the opinion that if you kill another person intentionally (not accidentally in a bar fight or car crash etc) you should never get out. Unless you can bring back the life you took you stay locked up.
However, I also like fair across the board. How many people who murder their spouse or someone on the street stay in prison forever? They don't. I am always sickened that they release them after 25 years or so. It seems to me that the more notorious the killing the least likely they are to be paroled. What make a Kennedy more important than anyone else who is murdered?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 15:40:06 GMT
I don’t agree with this parole and feel he should have served life. From what I read, part of the reason it was granted was because the DA didn’t challenge the parole. Gascon and Boudin (former and current DA’s for San Francisco) are both facing recall efforts right now for their justice reform policies.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 15:40:09 GMT
He is old, and he has served a sentence longer than he would serve in peer countries.RFK’s kids met with him and not just said they were OK, but advocated for his release.
Bold mine. I agree, and largely for this reason. Same reason I thought that Leslie van Houten should be paroled after 40some years and an exemplary prison record. Governor Newsom overturning the parole board on the basis she was a danger to society was just caving to public pressure and I didn’t think we as the public should be driving these parole decisions, which is also what I think of Sirhan. I’m of a couple minds about victim family influence. (Yes, I understand that if we had a downvote option here, I’d be deluged.) I don't have an opinion on whether he should or should not be recommended for parole. I do agree with you that the decision should not be up to public opinion nor victim's families. That way leads back to the past and the "the rules are what the mob says the rules are" kind of society. A nation of laws, not men, as John Adams said. I hope and trust the parole board acted according to the laws. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 28, 2021 15:40:18 GMT
He is old, and he has served a sentence longer than he would serve in peer countries.RFK’s kids met with him and not just said they were OK, but advocated for his release.
Bold mine. I agree, and largely for this reason. Same reason I thought that Leslie van Houten should be paroled after 40some years and an exemplary prison record. Governor Newsom overturning the parole board on the basis she was a danger to society was just caving to public pressure and I didn’t think we as the public should be driving these parole decisions, which is also what I think of Sirhan. I’m of a couple minds about victim family influence. (Yes, I understand that if we had a downvote option here, I’d be deluged.) I think that in a middle eastern country he would have served no time for killing a leader in the country. He would have been dead and not pleasantly! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 15:44:00 GMT
I think that in a middle eastern country he would have served no time for killing a leader in the country. He would have been dead and not pleasantly! I don't think that's what we should aspire to. |
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Post by paulao on Aug 28, 2021 15:45:52 GMT
I'm not o.k. with this. At all. He is an assassin and should remain locked up.
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Post by mom on Aug 28, 2021 15:50:04 GMT
Two of his kids are ok with it and met him in person. The others are not ok with it. So, the will of 2 is more important than the will and wishes of 6? Even here at NSBR? Or are people just unaware that actually the majority of his children (he had 11 children) aren’t okay with Sirhan’s release? I was ok with it because I thought all his kids were ok with it. |
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 28, 2021 15:50:43 GMT
Bold mine. I agree, and largely for this reason. Same reason I thought that Leslie van Houten should be paroled after 40some years and an exemplary prison record. Governor Newsom overturning the parole board on the basis she was a danger to society was just caving to public pressure and I didn’t think we as the public should be driving these parole decisions, which is also what I think of Sirhan. I’m of a couple minds about victim family influence. (Yes, I understand that if we had a downvote option here, I’d be deluged.) I think that in a middle eastern country he would have served no time for killing a leader in the country. He would have been dead and not pleasantly! Sure, but that’s not what was meant by “a peer country.” Some middle eastern countries have very different justice systems than we do* - or their system are infected by religion. *Although we’re more peerish with them in that we have a death penalty. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 28, 2021 16:01:46 GMT
I think that in a middle eastern country he would have served no time for killing a leader in the country. He would have been dead and not pleasantly! I don't think that's what we should aspire to. That was not my intent at all. It is what happens in the middle eastern areas. I guess I miss read... 'peer' country means like us? I do think confinement is good for him. |
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