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Post by onelasttime on Sept 28, 2022 0:16:55 GMT
They just shouldn’t. And we are allowing this to be the new normal. What does it say about us?
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Sept 28, 2022 1:18:19 GMT
I agree!
My youngest told me that "He thinks he'll just be dead" because he won't be able to throw a book hard enough to get a gun away from a shooter."
Well just fuck all this freedom, please.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 28, 2022 1:44:30 GMT
So sad for today's little ones!!
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 28, 2022 2:44:30 GMT
Someone should compile all of the comments from little ones and send the list to lawmakers. So sad to hear what kids are thinking and saying about all of this.  |
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Post by padresfan619 on Sept 28, 2022 3:03:57 GMT
Just what I wanted to read as a mom of a toddler who’s going to public school in a few years. Ugh.
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Post by travelsoul on Sept 28, 2022 3:24:34 GMT
My 7 year old had her active shooter drill last week. She came home asking me to always pack her big heavy water bottle in case she needs to hit an intruder in the head with it. Then she told me the best way to push the desks in front of the door so that it’s harder to get in. Even worse was how matter of fact she was about it.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 28, 2022 13:17:20 GMT
UGH - seriously, there are ways for children to learn to stay safe without terrorizing them to do it. We practice fire and tornado drills all the time without freaking the kids out. There are ways to teach children what to do if there was an unsafe situation in the school and they would need to remain in place. I would never think to teach a young child to try and fight back and attack an active shooter. Here we call it shelter in place. Teaching children to stay where they are with a safe adult to help them.
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Post by Merge on Sept 28, 2022 13:55:50 GMT
But the right is more concerned that they might have their feelings hurt by discussions of historical injustices.
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Post by aprilfay21 on Sept 28, 2022 13:57:46 GMT
My 8 year old asked me if she should smear herself with her friends blood and pretend to be dead, because that saved a kid in Uvalde.
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Post by agengr2004 on Sept 28, 2022 14:02:30 GMT
My 8 year old asked me if she should smear herself with her friends blood and pretend to be dead, because that saved a kid in Uvalde. I told my kids to do exactly this. |
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Post by aprilfay21 on Sept 28, 2022 14:12:47 GMT
My 8 year old asked me if she should smear herself with her friends blood and pretend to be dead, because that saved a kid in Uvalde. I told my kids to do exactly this. Oh, I agreed with her that it was a great idea, but they shouldn't have to consider using their dead friend's blood for anything.  |
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Post by agengr2004 on Sept 28, 2022 14:21:33 GMT
I told my kids to do exactly this. Oh, I agreed with her that it was a great idea, but they shouldn't have to consider using their dead friend's blood for anything. I've said so many things I thought I would never say. I watched The Black Phone a couple of weeks ago with my teenage DD and we broke apart the whole movie into "what should he have done instead of...", "what should you do when...". It feels like I'm more of a basic survival instructor some days rather than a parent. |
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Post by malibou on Sept 28, 2022 14:22:08 GMT
I told my kids to do exactly this. Oh, I agreed with her that it was a great idea, but they shouldn't have to consider using their dead friend's blood for anything. This makes my heart hurt. No kid should have to ask questions like this and no parent should have to say yes. I am so sorry it has come to this. I hope these conversations fill the NRA's inbox as well as anyone who supports these horrific gun laws. |
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Post by Really Red on Sept 28, 2022 15:15:15 GMT
These are horrific stories. What can we do? How do things change? I have protested and written letters and nothing changes? We have to get these horrific people out of office. They cater to the lowest form of humanity.
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Post by peano on Sept 28, 2022 15:20:12 GMT
Someone should compile all of the comments from little ones and send the list to lawmakers. So sad to hear what kids are thinking and saying about all of this. Wouldn't work. If they are unmoved by photos of dead children blown to bits by AR-15s, they are unmovable. |
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Post by None on Sept 28, 2022 15:26:19 GMT
I am sick to my stomach reading the things those poor babies have to think about. I don't understand how regular people can buy such destructive weapons. What regular person needs them? And using insanity as the excuse. If course these pieces of shit are crazy, but they it shouldn't be used as the excuse to get off or lighter sentence. Just like the crap with Nicholas Cruz.
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Post by sabrinae on Sept 28, 2022 16:40:06 GMT
UGH - seriously, there are ways for children to learn to stay safe without terrorizing them to do it. We practice fire and tornado drills all the time without freaking the kids out. There are ways to teach children what to do if there was an unsafe situation in the school and they would need to remain in place. I would never think to teach a young child to try and fight back and attack an active shooter. Here we call it shelter in place. Teaching children to stay where they are with a safe adult to help them. ALICE is a school of thought/preparedness/teaching plan that many police departments, schools and government entities use/teach to respond to an active shooter. Part of the teaching os that if you don’t have a way to hide or escape or shelter safely I. Place that you do fight back with whatever you have on hand. I’ve done the training. They told us to throw staplers at the shooter. It’s absolutely taught. |
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 28, 2022 16:57:17 GMT
UGH - seriously, there are ways for children to learn to stay safe without terrorizing them to do it. We practice fire and tornado drills all the time without freaking the kids out. There are ways to teach children what to do if there was an unsafe situation in the school and they would need to remain in place. I would never think to teach a young child to try and fight back and attack an active shooter. Here we call it shelter in place. Teaching children to stay where they are with a safe adult to help them. ALICE is a school of thought/preparedness/teaching plan that many police departments, schools and government entities use/teach to respond to an active shooter. Part of the teaching os that if you don’t have a way to hide or escape or shelter safely I. Place that you do fight back with whatever you have on hand. I’ve done the training. They told us to throw staplers at the shooter. It’s absolutely taught. There is a huge difference between training an adult to fight back and a 7 year old to fight back. |
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Post by papersilly on Sept 28, 2022 17:00:51 GMT
this is a terrible way to grow up. there were many things i feared when going to school---being late, not studying enough for a test, forgetting my key to the house or my lunch money. but NEVER did i once think that there would be an active shooter and i would have to hide somewhere so the shooter doesn't find me. the only thing we ever did drills for were earthquakes.
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Post by sabrinae on Sept 28, 2022 17:20:29 GMT
ALICE is a school of thought/preparedness/teaching plan that many police departments, schools and government entities use/teach to respond to an active shooter. Part of the teaching os that if you don’t have a way to hide or escape or shelter safely I. Place that you do fight back with whatever you have on hand. I’ve done the training. They told us to throw staplers at the shooter. It’s absolutely taught. There is a huge difference between training an adult to fight back and a 7 year old to fight back. Kids are taught the same things in this training. It’s the same training the sheriffs office gives to schools including kids. |
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Post by RosieKat on Sept 28, 2022 17:21:22 GMT
We just had a serious threat at my DD(16)'s high school last week. Graffiti posted on a bathroom wall, getting redone after removed and getting increasingly specific as to threats, the exact day, etc. The 3 schooldays leading up to it were just horrifying. Extra police in and around school, snipers on the roof, all kinds of stuff. Didn't shut down school, didn't give excused absences, etc. because they weren't allowed to by the state. Maybe half the kids were there the day of? My DD managed to (truly but conveniently) hurt her finger pretty badly at a sports practice the night before, so it was a great day to go get it xrayed and have a doctor's excuse.
But just even the trauma leading up to it all. For all of us. Times the 2800 kids in the school, plus all the corresponding admin, staff, and teachers, plus all the forces involved.
I honestly didn't think anything was going to happen. But what if I was wrong? The risk vs reward was just too great.
I broke when she told me that the reason she says "I love you" every time she leaves the house isn't just because she's a nice person. It's because she fears she'll never come back.
Our nation is screwed up. Yeah, I had plenty of fears as a kid, but it was more along the lines of how did I do on the test, or will Billy ever like me back? Maybe the occasional tornado or something. This would never, ever have crossed my mind, nor should it have to.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 28, 2022 17:26:37 GMT
Someone should compile all of the comments from little ones and send the list to lawmakers. So sad to hear what kids are thinking and saying about all of this. Yes, but the ones who would care- already care. The other just don’t give a shit as long as they keep their power & line their pockets |
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Post by valincal on Sept 28, 2022 17:35:04 GMT
this is a terrible way to grow up. there were many things i feared when going to school---being late, not studying enough for a test, forgetting my key to the house or my lunch money. but NEVER did i once think that there would be an active shooter and i would have to hide somewhere so the shooter doesn't find me. It’s sickening. And throw a stapler at the shooter? That’s as useful as the advice to use your seat cushion as a flotation device if your plane crashes into the ocean. I can’t imagine how many little kids are now living with daily anxiety because of this. 🥺 |
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Post by papersilly on Sept 28, 2022 17:46:45 GMT
this is a terrible way to grow up. there were many things i feared when going to school---being late, not studying enough for a test, forgetting my key to the house or my lunch money. but NEVER did i once think that there would be an active shooter and i would have to hide somewhere so the shooter doesn't find me. It’s sickening. And throw a stapler at the shooter? That’s as useful as the advice to use your seat cushion as a flotation device if your plane crashes into the ocean. I can’t imagine how many little kids are now living with daily anxiety because of this. 🥺 good or bad, we will have future generations who know how to shelter in place and to scope out the nearest exits to buildings. this is our world today. |
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Post by nightnurse on Sept 28, 2022 17:52:59 GMT
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Post by tentoes on Sept 28, 2022 18:02:55 GMT
this is a terrible way to grow up. there were many things i feared when going to school---being late, not studying enough for a test, forgetting my key to the house or my lunch money. but NEVER did i once think that there would be an active shooter and i would have to hide somewhere so the shooter doesn't find me. the only thing we ever did drills for were earthquakes. Back in the 50's we had tornado drills in Michigan. Scared me to bits!! |
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Post by monklady123 on Sept 28, 2022 18:19:12 GMT
Someone should compile all of the comments from little ones and send the list to lawmakers. So sad to hear what kids are thinking and saying about all of this. Wouldn't work. If they are unmoved by photos of dead children blown to bits by AR-15s, they are unmovable. Yes, I was going to say just that. After Sandy Hook we all said "surely NOW things will change". Nope.  |
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Post by maryland on Sept 28, 2022 20:38:39 GMT
Not all of us want that to be normal. We vote for candidates who want strict gun control. We hate guns so much in our family. We don't want anyone to have to worry about losing a loved one to gun violence. It's so sad that these kids/teachers/school staff have to go through this. But I guess if they are not unborn, they don't matter to many politicians.
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Post by Embri on Sept 28, 2022 20:45:17 GMT
... snipers on the roof, all kinds of stuff. I'm sorry but what the fork? Did you say SNIPERS? At a school? I cannot even... Honestly that sounds like a movie, not real life. The only drills I've ever done in school my entire attendance were for fire safety. |
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Post by catck on Sept 28, 2022 23:31:16 GMT
That's awful OMG that just breaks my heart. |
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