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Post by cecilia on Sept 28, 2023 12:37:17 GMT
/?mibextid=Na33Lf Saw this on Facebook. Some of it might have been covered already. However, it has photos/screenshots.
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Post by compeateropeator on Sept 28, 2023 12:47:23 GMT
I understand this concept but is makes me so sad that a special treat is offered and there is not something put in place to allow all the kids to receive that treat.
Maybe make the ice cream a ticket only grab and have a person in the morning there to hand out tickets by deducting the dollar from everyone’s account who comes to get a ticket, or accepting the dollar. Or asking in morning in each class who wants ice cream that day and everyone getting a ticket who does and a list from a teacher kept to settle up later some how?
I don’t know what system can be used but it is an ice cream cup for gosh sakes, we as a society must have enough smarts to come up with a systems so that all the kids that would like that special treat can have it without putting a big bullseye on their back that they are a “have not” and not a “have” for whatever the reason. I understand everything can not always be equal and just, but if we can’t even do that for an “ice cream Friday” for kids, where in the hell is our empathy as humans. Stories like these totally DO NOT restore my faith and trust in humanity.
On a side note, did everyone here have a cafeteria when growing up? Our elementary school did not. Everyone had to bring their own lunch. The Jr high and high school had a cafeteria and that was a big thing once you got to 7th grade. In elementary school all we could buy was milk. You were supposed to bring in your money at the beginning of the week and each teacher would collect it and they (or someone) would figure out figure out how many cartons a class needed each day and it would be delivered to the class room before out lunch started daily.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 29, 2023 4:12:20 GMT
I can see the difference between PTA ice cream and everyone pays with their cash vs cafeteria ice cream where it has to come out of your account... but i do think the school should let friends buy for friends if they have it... My kid has done that and bought snacks or juice/drinks for her friends at lunch. I questioned her one day when I noticed her lunch account was getting burned up faster than I thought it should, and she admitted that she had bought chips and stuff for herself and her friends a few different times. And LOL after I saw what the school was getting for a 3/4 ounce bag of chips or a can of Izze, I started buying the multipacks myself at Costco and told her she should bring them from home.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Sept 29, 2023 6:00:55 GMT
The apology letter states that it wasn’t the fact that it was icecream but it was a la carte. But they make it sound like everyone is up in arms about this because it’s icecream. As if calling it a la carte made it less appealing.
I don’t care if it’s liver and onions day. The fact that they gave stipulations on it like it’s a reward system for having a paid off lunch bill.
Children aren’t going to understand that. If they have their dollar to buy the liver and onions then they should be allowed to buy the liver and onions.
BTW I’m coming from a non-political view.
I do agree there should be parental permission to buy for a buddy due to food allergies.
I remember having Popcorn day on Wednesdays and Ice Cream day on Fridays. It was the cherry on top to have ice cream the day before having 2 days off ☺️
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Post by melanell on Sept 29, 2023 11:24:48 GMT
My dad, only a week or two ago mentioned to me that he used to have a tab at the gas station in town as well, which I never knew. It makes me wonder how much worse things were for them during those years when we were all small & his job was still inadequately paying him. And yet, ironically, my parents never took part in the free or reduced lunch program. Back then the kids had a special card to present, and having grown up without himself, he couldn't bear to let us go through the line with those cards. So we had our little lunch boxes that we took to school each day. It was easier to hide what was or was not in your lunch box than to hide one of those cards. If I recall correctly they were bright orange, so they certainly stood out. But every year, when they had the special Thanksgiving meal (at the same price as every other meal), my dad would hand over coins enough to cover bought lunch for that one day. And yes, he was handing over those coins despite probably owing on his tab(s) to others, but he wanted us to be able to take part in at least this one something special on occasion if there was any way he could. We took lunch boxes to school for the same reason. Couldn’t afford the school lunch every day and mom - who grew up in poverty - didn’t want us in the free lunch line. I usually had a sandwich on homemade bread and a homemade cookie and I didn’t appreciate it like I should have, haha. Always tried to trade the cookie for someone else’s Oreos, which were a treat never seen in our house. 😂 I had milk in a thermos---and it was never truly cold---apparently they hadn't figured out how to make plastic thermos bottles really work that well at that point. And I had a pb&j on the cheapest bread in existence, so the jelly was always seeping through the bread by the time I ate it. Apparently my mother never learned the tip about putting half the pb on each slice of bread to keep that darn jelly inside the sandwich where it belongs. And an apple. I used to open up my napkin and casually toss it over the contents of my lunch box so no one would notice that I didn't have any cool snacks.
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Post by melanell on Sept 29, 2023 11:32:25 GMT
I can see the difference between PTA ice cream and everyone pays with their cash vs cafeteria ice cream where it has to come out of your account... but i do think the school should let friends buy for friends if they have it... My kid has done that and bought snacks or juice/drinks for her friends at lunch. I questioned her one day when I noticed her lunch account was getting burned up faster than I thought it should, and she admitted that she had bought chips and stuff for herself and her friends a few different times. And LOL after I saw what the school was getting for a 3/4 ounce bag of chips or a can of Izze, I started buying the multipacks myself at Costco and told her she should bring them from home. This same thing used to happen to me with my oldest. And I did the same thing---I saw what they were charging for the drinks/snacks and I filled the fridge & pantry with the same exact items for half the cost instead. Then I told my oldest they could take as many in as they wanted, so that they could still share without zipping through the lunch account payments so darn quickly.
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Post by Merge on Sept 29, 2023 12:32:52 GMT
We took lunch boxes to school for the same reason. Couldn’t afford the school lunch every day and mom - who grew up in poverty - didn’t want us in the free lunch line. I usually had a sandwich on homemade bread and a homemade cookie and I didn’t appreciate it like I should have, haha. Always tried to trade the cookie for someone else’s Oreos, which were a treat never seen in our house. 😂 I had milk in a thermos---and it was never truly cold---apparently they hadn't figured out how to make plastic thermos bottles really work that well at that point. And I had a pb&j on the cheapest bread in existence, so the jelly was always seeping through the bread by the time I ate it. Apparently my mother never learned the tip about putting half the pb on each slice of bread to keep that darn jelly inside the sandwich where it belongs. And an apple. I used to open up my napkin and casually toss it over the contents of my lunch box so no one would notice that I didn't have any cool snacks. No milk! Too expensive to drink milk as a beverage. My thermos had water or kool-aid made with half as much sugar as it calls for.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 29, 2023 13:59:43 GMT
I had milk in a thermos---and it was never truly cold---apparently they hadn't figured out how to make plastic thermos bottles really work that well at that point. And I had a pb&j on the cheapest bread in existence, so the jelly was always seeping through the bread by the time I ate it. Apparently my mother never learned the tip about putting half the pb on each slice of bread to keep that darn jelly inside the sandwich where it belongs. And an apple. I used to open up my napkin and casually toss it over the contents of my lunch box so no one would notice that I didn't have any cool snacks. No milk! Too expensive to drink milk as a beverage. My thermos had water or kool-aid made with half as much sugar as it calls for. I never even had a lunch box or thermos! I carried my lunch to school in a plain brown paper sack THAT WE HAD TO BRING BACK HOME TO RE-USE! For multiple days, until it literally fell apart. 😳 Yeah, my mom was the recycling OG, LOL. She also shopped at the discount store that sold the dented cans of food, crushed boxes of cereal, slightly overripe fruit and almost expired yogurt. So yeah.
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Post by MichyM on Sept 29, 2023 14:53:15 GMT
My son has been out of the public school system for 15+ years, and there was never a school ice cream day, thank goodness. IMHO, if a public school is going to have an ice cream day it should be FREE FOR ALL. And there should be an ice cream alternative for those who cannot ingest dairy.
It’s one thing if there is say a PTA sponsored fundraiser bake sale. For something like this it should be available to all students . Full stop.
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Post by creativegirl on Sept 29, 2023 15:37:50 GMT
I'm SO thankful that every kid in our district gets free breakfast and lunch. The idea of a child having to go without while watching their friends enjoy makes me want to cry.
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Post by melanell on Oct 1, 2023 2:30:22 GMT
I had milk in a thermos---and it was never truly cold---apparently they hadn't figured out how to make plastic thermos bottles really work that well at that point. And I had a pb&j on the cheapest bread in existence, so the jelly was always seeping through the bread by the time I ate it. Apparently my mother never learned the tip about putting half the pb on each slice of bread to keep that darn jelly inside the sandwich where it belongs. And an apple. I used to open up my napkin and casually toss it over the contents of my lunch box so no one would notice that I didn't have any cool snacks. No milk! Too expensive to drink milk as a beverage. My thermos had water or kool-aid made with half as much sugar as it calls for. We never drank water as kids for some reason. Oddly enough, water & hot tea are about all I drink now. But we did also have kool-aid when I was a kid, and yes, it never had the full amount of sugar. We used to have iced tea that my mom made as well. But for lunch I did have milk. I'm not sure if we were buying it all, or if some was given to us. My grandfather used to get free food from somewhere---it was plain packaging food---I have no idea what program was involved. But he was entitled to it, so he got it, whether or not he liked it, used it, wanted it, or needed it. Funny enough, that was my dad's dad. Then my grandparents would give the food they weren't going to use to my parents. So I have no idea if any milk or powdered milk was part of that. I do recall a giant box of cheese once. But mostly cans that I thought were odd as a child because the labels were just black & white, which is nothing like what I was used to seeing on store shelves. It's funny how little of this I've thought about/actively remembered until someone mentions something & then suddenly it's like a flood of past events comes rushing to the front of my mind.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 1, 2023 5:20:25 GMT
Yes melanell the government surplus supplies came with white and black labels. Large boxes of powdered milk, 4 pounds of butter some times, big can of beans, 5 pounds of flour... 5 pound block of 'American' cheese. There was more. And yes, I received some when my DS was young and you had to take the whole bag, not pick and choose items.
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 1, 2023 16:33:55 GMT
Back in the 50s when I was a kid we had big cafeteria and on the outside of that building there was a walk up window where we could buy milk, ice cream cups and little bags of peanuts. We paid cash. That window was for the kids that ate outside on the lunch benches with their lunch pails.
Under some trees we had ten or twelve benches in two rows lined up like church pews for the kids who bought their lunch. Peanuts certainly wouldn't work now days but I don't remember any problems with allergies back then. We used to dump a bag of peanuts into the ice cream cups. I still do that today if I have peanuts on hand when eating ice cream.
I mostly took my lunch and only got to eat in the cafeteria a few times during the school year because it was 25 cents to eat in the cafeteria. We weren’t destitute but were on a very tight budget. Milk was 3 cents for a little carton and ice cream was 5 cents.
After the weekend when my uncles would be hanging out on our coach my mom would look under the cushions for any change that had fallen out of their pockets and a lot of times that is where I got my milk money.
I was in first grade and learned to spell Mickey Mouse from looking at the lunch pail of the girl who sat in front of me on the lunch benches. I memorized it while eating lunch and kept repeating it in my mind for the rest of the day. Later that evening when my dad got home from work I was so proud to show him what I had learned to spell and he was properly impressed.
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Post by melanell on Oct 1, 2023 18:24:22 GMT
Yes melanell the government surplus supplies came with white and black labels. Large boxes of powdered milk, 4 pounds of butter some times, big can of beans, 5 pounds of flour... 5 pound block of 'American' cheese. There was more. And yes, I received some when my DS was young and you had to take the whole bag, not pick and choose items.That part I bolded explains a lot. Because I seem to recall there were some thing we ate because they were there, but they were not anything anyone really wanted to eat.
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Post by theshyone on Oct 1, 2023 19:57:38 GMT
I’m Canadian in a rural area, neither myself nor my kids ever had cafeterias available, or breakfasts. You either brought from home or went hungry.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Oct 1, 2023 23:38:17 GMT
But if the post is correct, the school DID attempt to punish kids with negative balances, by refusing to allow them to buy ice cream even if they bring the cash to pay for it. This isn't prison. It’s children who are already downtrodden, being exposed to additional unkindness and humiliation. I don’t really care if it was an “existing policy.” It still sucks. We used to have ice cream days at the 14yo’s grade school, and no one was checking lunch balance logs before selling ice cream to a kid with $1 in his grubby little hand. So, if my family has a bill that I don’t pay… Can I continue to use the service? I’m not seeing the difference. I agree with you that it isn’t the kid’s fault. There is ample opportunity to apply for free/reduced lunch if the bill truly can’t be paid. Do you not see how this is unfairly punishing the kid for the parents financial issues?
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