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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 8, 2024 19:29:14 GMT
Beyond consumer waste and larger homes, as someone who has now cleared out the homes of several different older relatives, if you fill your home to the brim with "stuff", eventually someone you love will have to deal with it all. And it's exhausting. Yes, I make jokes about my DD having to clean out my craft room when I go. But I shouldn't joke because it's really not funny. My mom had to move to a one bedroom apartment after years of living in a house and she majorly downsized. And then she moved up to a more condo-style place with a full basement and she's back collecting again. I really hope that by the time she passes there isn't so much to clean out. My city sucks are recycle opportunities. I also feel like I should not have to pay to recycle and if one didn't have to pay, then maybe more people would reycle. Surely a recycle company makes profit off the items they accept as recycle. Maybe I need to learn more about that, but so is was not so expensive to recycle. I think its $10 a tv to drop off at one of our recycle places. This is a huge bone of contention for me, as well. I pay almost double my garbage bill for the "opportunity" to recycle. I am positive this is why so many houses on my street do not have recycling bins outside on recycle day...they just can't afford it.
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Post by katlady on Jan 8, 2024 19:48:12 GMT
This is a huge bone of contention for me, as well. I pay almost double my garbage bill for the "opportunity" to recycle. I am positive this is why so many houses on my street do not have recycling bins outside on recycle day...they just can't afford it. That is sad. Our fee is based on the size of the regular trash bin we use. They offer two sizes. The recycle and green waste bin are provided for “free”. So there is no extra cost to us to recycle. And we have 3 free bulk pickups a year, plus we can take stuff to recycle to their yard for free. Very little reason to not recycle in my area.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 8, 2024 19:53:46 GMT
This is a huge bone of contention for me, as well. I pay almost double my garbage bill for the "opportunity" to recycle. I am positive this is why so many houses on my street do not have recycling bins outside on recycle day...they just can't afford it. That is sad. Our fee is based on the size of the regular trash bin we use. They offer two sizes. The recycle and green waste bin are provided for “free”. So there is no extra cost to us to recycle. And we have 3 free bulk pickups a year, plus we can take stuff to recycle to their yard for free. Very little reason to not recycle in my area. Same here. Our city has weekly drop offs at rhe city yard for paints, oils, electronics, etc. Them about 1x a month there is a big e-cycle event in our city. I have dropped off phones, an old computer, and old TV. Then we have 3 cans - recycle, greens/compost, and trash. Ds likes to take compost to the city yard facility drop off so that is what we do.
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Post by Texas Scrap on Jan 8, 2024 20:04:05 GMT
This is a great thread. Lots of things to think about and thoughts. I have evolved so much in the past 10-20 years in my knowledge and practices around sustainability. I have used reusable bags for a long time and will avoid a plastic one use bag when I can. We have 2 compost bins and also fill our recycle bin weekly. I have pretty much stopped using plastic water bottles and use 2 metal reusable bottles for water now - one more suitable for hikes and one for around the house/car. My thinking has definitely evolved as I get older and really get a sense of the impact all the mountains of thrown away items have on our communities across the world. Like many of you, I have my things I like to buy and keep, but I do find on the north side of 50, a desire to pare down what I own and really think hard about what I need and the footprint I am leaving on the world around me. I have drastically reduced my clothing purchases and the only shoes I buy for myself are cross trainers that I wear until I wear them out. It is tricky, though, because I do legit need some dressier shoes, but I can't bring myself to buy them. I buy a lot less dollar items at Target recognizing the longevity of those items is not great and they are usually impulse buys that I am better without.
I think its good to just reflect and think about consumption, why you do it, the impact on you and others so that what ever decisions we make, I make, I am doing it knowingly. No judgement, just recognition that living with intention is usually a happier way to be.
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Post by wellway on Jan 8, 2024 20:06:04 GMT
We have three large separate bins in our back yard to use for waste. One is for garden waste which is sent to be turned into compost for people to buy. One is cardboard, paper, various plastic. The third is for other waste. They are collected from the front of the house on designated days.
We can bring oils, batteries, electronic items, diy waste to our local recycling centre. They also have a big shed to take an item you want to get rid of but someone else can use like a coffee table or bookcase etc
A few mins walk away in the village there are containers for glass, clothes and a new one for tinfoil.
Are allotments common in other places? Most of the villages/towns around here have a field subdivided into plots that people can rent for a minimal yearly fee and they can grow veg, fruit, flowers etc
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Post by lisae on Jan 8, 2024 20:16:37 GMT
Well, I had to google Stanley Cup because I gathered from the context it was something other than a hockey trophy.
How much and what I buy is an area I'm starting to think of more and more. I get reminded of it every time I help someone move and most recently in cleaning out my parent's house. I've lived in the same house for 30 years and don't have any immediate plans to move; however, when I've been through a moving project for someone I'm reminded that I want less stuff. We don't have a huge house but the grounds are a lot of maintenance and some day I'm sure we will have to downsize. I want less stuff to move when the time comes.
I was careful about what I kept from my mother's stuff. Besides memorabilia, it had to be something I had somewhere to place. There are just a handful of items I've kept that are stored and not currently used. I also sold a lot of my accessories and things I no longer wanted in the estate sale so I probably ended up about even.
This year when I reviewed what I'd done over the last year, I listed purchases - not all of them but a list of things I bought that worked out well for me and a list of regrets. I hope this review will help me be a better consumer so I'm buying items - particularly clothes - that I really use. I overbought during Thanksgiving week and I returned a few things because I knew I just didn't need that many clothes and they wouldn't get enough wear.
Yarn is not my problem but fabric is. I only buy yarn for my current project. Fabric I have a stash and it has grown quite a bit in the last few year. Last year I did a fabric freeze that lasted until September. In the fall, I made a few purchases but nothing like I'd been doing. I'm trying to work down my stash also particularly making quilts for donation. I started watercolor painting because I reasoned that I could use fewer supplies to create cards than buying so many different stamps. It wasn't a great money saver at first but I do think now it is paying off.
How all this impacts the environment is more secondary but it is still accounted for. If we buy less for our own use, less has to be made and transported.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 8, 2024 20:38:15 GMT
I think its good to just reflect and think about consumption, why you do it, the impact on you and others so that what ever decisions we make, I make, I am doing it knowingly. No judgement, just recognition that living with intention is usually a happier way to be. That was extremely well said and conveys my opinion better than anything I have said so far.
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Post by katlady on Jan 8, 2024 20:53:16 GMT
When I buy something, I don't really think about the packaging it comes in. I will dispose of the packaging in the appropriate manner though. But, I do think more about overconsumption. I know I'll be retiring soon, so I've cut down on the amount of clothing I buy specifically for work. I also don't buy a lot of art or craft supplies anymore. I no longer have a desire to buy a "complete set" of crafting items. We haven't bought any major piece of furniture in over 20 years, and I wear my clothes for a lot longer than I probably should. I still have shirts that I wear that are over 10 years old.
I try to buy quality goods that will last. I had one co-worker, many years ago, that used to buy a $10 purse every month. I asked her once why she just didn't buy a $100 purse that will last for a couple of years. Her answer was that this was a way for her to have something new every month. I guess I can understand her reasoning. If something costs less, it doesn't hurt as much to dispose of it. I think stores like Daiso, Dollar Tree, 99¢ store, etc. contributes to the problem of buying too many cheap disposable plastic goods. I know that before, when I used to go to Daiso, I was tempted to buy a lot of things because they were cheap, especially organizational things. But now I am more aware of what I buy and why.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 8, 2024 21:07:15 GMT
Stanley water cups, or any reuseable beverage cups, my issue, which my son pointed out, How are we preventing trash/carbon footprint if “everyone” buys 6 new re-useable beverage container each year depending on what *the* popular cup of the year is.
Without even getting into the money spent on resales of popular items snatched up by resellers, the reuseable beverage container ( because not all are ‘cups’ per se ) industry has enough issues with not really providing the benefits to the planet that they pretend they are with marketing. Every 6-12 months there’s a new ‘hot’ personal beverage cup or bottle that is highly marketed and if we all buy a bunch every year of cups/containers that are less likely to be recycled than a plastic water bottle what are we doing?
I’m sticking with my 1 yeti & my fake yeti and just purchasing o rings when needed simply because it’s still good. I did buy a yeti cover for my reusable metal ‘wine’ glass ( that I also use for tea ) when the crappy lid that came with it broke because I try to use stuff until it is completely unusable
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Post by quiltz on Jan 8, 2024 22:40:34 GMT
The only Stanley Cup that I am aware of is in the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto.
I take along water in whatever container I happen to have at the time. I'm not fussy and a water container isn't a fashion statement.
In my province, there is a great recycling program. In my building, there is an excellent way to recycle just about anything.
Separate bins for paper, cardboard & plastics. There are green bins for food waste & compost stuff. In a smaller community room, there is space to donate what you don't want/need anymore. Free to anyone who wants the stuff. Every month a charity comes in and clears out the room. Very little effort on my part to make sure almost everything is recycled. Don't even have to leave the building.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jan 8, 2024 23:18:44 GMT
I had no idea what the cup was until I started seeing posts about it, and looked it up.
In general... What I spend my money on, is my business and no one else's opinion matters.
Just my personal opinion: There's nothing wrong with spending whatever amount, on anything one desires to purchase. Over-inflated prices or not. One's personal spending is one's own business, with the exception of >> if you are legally attached to another(marriage) and share funds, then finances should be discussed and agreed upon.....unless your marital agreement is for both parties to have separate finances.
I think it's unethical, to purchase items, especially mass quantities of regular priced "items of the moment--the current in-thing item" with the sole purpose and intention of selling the item for extremely over-inflated high priced amounts, for the purpose of "get rich quick" large financial gain. This type of thing has happened many many many times throughout the years. Example: Cabbage patch dolls, concert tickets, sporting event tickets, beanie babies, toilet paper and sanitizer & lysol spray and wipes, etc...
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Post by scrappintoee on Jan 9, 2024 1:50:35 GMT
Jeremysgirl...as always, I love your very thought-provoking topics and your thoughts. I've read about 2 pages thus far, and very interested in reading what everyone says. I don't have time right now to post my thoughts, but I can answer your question that I think / worry about this *almost* every day. I only wish I'd been more concerned and educated about it many years ago! I realize this is sort of off-topic, but thought some of you would be interested. I'd never heard of this, so I googled. In the description of the book, a TV series was mentioned, so I googled for the trailer. I look forward to watching! www.google.com/search?q=amy+pohler+swedish+death+cleaning+trailer&sca_esv=596722195&sxsrf=AM9HkKmW8gaeohzlk-2LtRCNPegOwBjhRw%3A1704764162104&ei=AqOcZYPnBeywqtsPm5-viAo&ved=0ahUKEwiD8Lqylc-DAxVsmGoFHZvPC6EQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=amy+pohler+swedish+death+cleaning+trailer&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiKWFteSBwb2hsZXIgc3dlZGlzaCBkZWF0aCBjbGVhbmluZyB0cmFpbGVyMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYgAQYogQyCBAAGIAEGKIESIoUUK4KWJ4TcAF4AZABAJgBlgGgAYkGqgEDNi4yuAEDyAEA-AEBwgIKEAAYRxjWBBiwA8ICBxAuGIAEGA3CAgYQABgWGB7CAgsQABiABBiKBRiGA8ICJRAuGIAEGA0YlwUY3AQY3gQY4AQY9AMY8QMY9QMY9gMY9wPYAQHCAgkQIRgKGKABGAriAwQYACBBiAYBkAYIugYGCAEQARgU&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:40b413cd,vid:97sG2vKgmb0,st:0www.google.com/search?q=amy+pohler+swedish+death+cleaning+trailer&sca_esv=596722195&sxsrf=AM9HkKmW8gaeohzlk-2LtRCNPegOwBjhRw%3A1704764162104&ei=AqOcZYPnBeywqtsPm5-viAo&ved=0ahUKEwiD8Lqylc-DAxVsmGoFHZvPC6EQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=amy+pohler+swedish+death+cleaning+trailer&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiKWFteSBwb2hsZXIgc3dlZGlzaCBkZWF0aCBjbGVhbmluZyB0cmFpbGVyMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYgAQYogQyCBAAGIAEGKIESIoUUK4KWJ4TcAF4AZABAJgBlgGgAYkGqgEDNi4yuAEDyAEA-AEBwgIKEAAYRxjWBBiwA8ICBxAuGIAEGA3CAgYQABgWGB7CAgsQABiABBiKBRiGA8ICJRAuGIAEGA0YlwUY3AQY3gQY4AQY9AMY8QMY9QMY9gMY9wPYAQHCAgkQIRgKGKABGAriAwQYACBBiAYBkAYIugYGCAEQARgU&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:40b413cd,vid:97sG2vKgmb0,st:0
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Post by scrappintoee on Jan 9, 2024 1:57:25 GMT
Finally got it to work! I realize this is NOT the original topic; however, thinking about what we leave behind for our loved ones to deal with is related. Thank you, peano, for mentioning "Swedish Death Cleaning", otherwise I may have never known about the book (I look forward to reading), nor this series.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 9, 2024 2:16:50 GMT
It's interesting because when I first saw the poll, I put myself in the not really thinking about it category. But in reading the thread, I realized that a lot of stuff is just ingrained in me, and I don't think of myself as really making an effort. Part may be growing up in CA where recycling was huge even when I was a kid - but part is just how much one enjoys shopping or has hobbies that involve "stuff". I've never scrapped, or really had any hobby that involved buying stuff. I also really hate shopping - so don't really accumulate a whole lot. Using reusable bags, cloth napkins, minimizing single use plastics has just always been the norm in my adult life.
I'm sort of natural minimalist I guess. It was extremely obvious when my kids were little and I had to put the hard brakes on family members buying them stuff - having a house over flowing with plastic toys was just not me. I don't like clutter, I don't collect anything (okay that's not true I do the ornament on vacation thing). If I have to force myself to shop - I want to buy something that's going to last so I can avoid shopping again soon.
I'm not judging anyone's spending - I'm most posting as an observation, that a lot of consumption is tied to other personality traits in people. My travel addiction is probably way more of an environmental impact than people buying for their crafting hobby - so not claiming any ethical/moral high ground here.
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Post by mich5481 on Jan 9, 2024 2:41:01 GMT
Finally got it to work! I realize this is NOT the original topic; however, thinking about what we leave behind for our loved ones to deal with is related. Thank you, peano, for mentioning "Swedish Death Cleaning", otherwise I may have never known about the book (I look forward to reading), nor this series. I posted in the decluttering that I watched the first episode today. I thought of jeremysgirl when one person in the episode said how bad recycling can be!
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Post by padresfan619 on Jan 9, 2024 2:44:22 GMT
I am trying my best to curb my single use plastic consumption but it’s really frustrating when I can’t buy things at the grocery store that aren’t in plastic. I have used reusable bags for nearly a decade, I’ve switched to mesh produce bags, I don’t buy bottled water except for what’s in our emergency kit, I’ve been using more and more silicone resealable bags and beeswax sealing sheets instead of Saran Wrap. But if I want some spinach or some deli meat it comes in a plastic bag.
I have two reusable water bottles, they are Yetis so I’m not on the cutting edge, but they keep my ice water cold and that’s all I care about. My son wears 95% hand me downs that I pass along to friends as well. I’m trying my best to break up with fast fashion but the process is tough, I’m accustomed to a certain price point and I have to break out of that mindset.
I have done a low buy of skincare and cosmetics since 2020 and it has really shown me how long it actually takes to use up an entire product, and saved me tons of money. I went from an annual diamond member at Ulta to not even coming close to hitting platinum.
I want to leave a healthy planet to my son, if that means I can’t have a cup that matches every single outfit, so be it.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jan 9, 2024 3:00:32 GMT
I chose the option for half but it really is a bit less than that I would think. I've never been one to have much spare money to just shop with. Money goes to bills and animals, groceries, etc. It's been pretty rare that I find myself in a state where I can just go shopping for fun. A lot of that changed since Covid for me. A new position at my work opened up and I got promoted. For the first time in my whole life I had some money left over at the end of the month. It was still a small enough amount when I compare to how most people on this board seem to live but for me it was a big deal. Then I noticed that slowly I was coming down to the wire again at the end of the month. Where was all of that spare money going? To the Dollar Tree, Temu, Amazon. I developed a habit of buying fancy glitter from small online retailers. Basically, I was buying stupid cheap crap really just because I could, because for the majority of my life even a trip to Dollar Tree was carefully counting the items in my cart and putting a lot back and all of a sudden I didn't have to count my items anymore. Anyway, I say all of that to say that I wasted A LOT of money that year before I even realized what I was doing. I got myself under control, saved up, bought a new to me car, and now I'm back to being pretty broke at the end of the month. But at least now I have a safer car to be broke in. Part of realizing where I was spending money was a lot of thought about what I was buying and what I was supporting with my shopping. So while I haven't totally given up Temu I also go out of my way to buy gifts or household things from small, local artisans and businesses. Do I need cookies for a work potluck? I'll get them from the little bakery down the street owned by a family that lives a block away instead of swinging by Sam's Club for cookies. Is a friend having a birthday? She'll get a bath bomb and selection of soaps from a woman that has a ranch up the road who makes them herself from actual things she grows and cares for herself. The goatsmilk in the soap is from her family goat that you see when you drive up the road. Those purchases don't just line the pockets of massive corporations but they help small families in their pursuit of a modest, self-reliant life which is something I feel drawn to support.
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Post by ntsf on Jan 9, 2024 3:07:37 GMT
just saying.. my family has been using nalgene bottles since they were invented.. still use them.
I had a great wardrobe for all my activities and I just lost 75 lbs.. yeah.. but now I have to replace most stuff and it frustrates me.. I can afford it. I donate my clothes.. but it hurts my cheap heart. my parents were poor in the depression as kids.. and we were brought up on thrift.. and it still holds me. we live in a modest house.. and spend money on activities.. rather than much else. I do have fabric and scrap stuff. but I also have taken apart my dad's houses and I am older so am in the mood to get rid of stuff.. still a process in action. I try to bring own bags to the store, and I just hate to waste stuff.
my dad decorated our house with calendar pictures mounted on poster board. somehow, I inherited his ways.. now that I lost weight, I can wear his fav sweater.. made for him as a gift in 1942. even in high school, I wore my mom's old high school dress from the early 40's. we were into thrifting and army/navy stores in those days.. it helps I grew up in seattle, where fashion didn't seem to be a big thing in the 1960's.
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Post by gar on Jan 9, 2024 9:41:13 GMT
. I want to leave a healthy planet to my son, if that means I can’t have a cup that matches every single outfit, so be it. And that is the crux of it, isn’t it, the bottom line. We all (myself definitely included) justify buying this or that while patting ourselves on the back for the bits we do well but we all need to do better and the big companies need to get their act together and start working towards the same goal. We can't afford to keep kidding ourselves that ‘Well, it’s only me/only one/just this time”
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 9, 2024 12:43:26 GMT
In general... What I spend my money on, is my business and no one else's opinion matters. I'm not trying to get into anyone's business but I'm curious about the motivations of people, myself included when it comes to things like this. I want to look deeper at what all of us are doing. Just my personal opinion: There's nothing wrong with spending whatever amount, on anything one desires to purchase. So that's it for you? No concerns whatsoever about the environment/ethical production (sweatshop toiling)/the greater emotional need someone(many of our fellow citizens) might be trying to fill by overconsumption/the societal pressure to keep up with the Joneses/the chemical component of products/etc? None of this matters to you?
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 9, 2024 12:47:43 GMT
I'm most posting as an observation, that a lot of consumption is tied to other personality traits in people. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you are weird , but I do think you are the minority, for now... I do think that for many of us, at least Americans, most of the time we have to make a conscious effort until things really start to "normalize" for us and get ingrained as a habit much the same way it is for you. I think you are one of the most level-headed peas here so none of this surprises me about you.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 9, 2024 12:53:04 GMT
. I want to leave a healthy planet to my son, if that means I can’t have a cup that matches every single outfit, so be it. And that is the crux of it, isn’t it, the bottom line. We all (myself definitely included) justify buying this or that while patting ourselves on the back for the bits we do well but we all need to do better and the big companies need to get their act together and start working towards the same goal. We can't afford to keep kidding ourselves that ‘Well, it’s only me/only one/just this time” Well said. This is where I'm at with it too. Nobody is going to be perfect but companies are not going to change the way they do business until we, the public, start to demand more. And unfortunately, that means we are going to be inconvenienced in order to do so.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 9, 2024 12:54:42 GMT
Thank you, guys, for another great discussion! I didn't like any posts in this thread because I didn't want it to appear that I was playing favorites or judging anyone. Hopefully we are all works in progress. I'm glad to see so many of you care and are actively thinking about ethical consumption.
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Post by cakediva on Jan 9, 2024 13:28:02 GMT
Can we start by making a New Year's resolution to carry reusable bags so we don't have to take single-use plastic ones? We can't all be ecology warriors, but if everyone does a little, it adds up. Canada outlawed single use plastic bags a while ago (at least in Ontario they did) - so we have hundreds of the reusable bags. I just cleared out my office and have 3 bags stuffed full of them to take to our local donation place....
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jan 9, 2024 13:36:15 GMT
I'm just asking if you take any action at all before choosing what to bring into your home and consume. I do consider all the factors more and more for a number of reasons. The biggest reason is having worked in the estate auction business and volunteering at a hospice resale store. The sheer glut of items I've sorted through is overwhelming. Every time I face down a new mountain of stuff to be assessed and priced... I vow to have less and less myself. I am a committed long-term declutterer. To be honest my motivation is more an aesthetic than it is environmentally driven, but it achieves both goals none the less. In my community we have 3 cans each week, green can for yard and food waste, recycle and regular trash. I wish. We have a recycling can provided free by the county but they don't recycle glass. We buy very little in cans or recyclable plastic, so we don't end up putting much more than cardboard in it. There's no "green can" program at all. They do pick up yard waste (with restrictions on what's in it) once a month but it goes to the landfill anyway.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 9, 2024 13:38:54 GMT
Beyond consumer waste and larger homes, as someone who has now cleared out the homes of several different older relatives, if you fill your home to the brim with "stuff", eventually someone you love will have to deal with it all. And it's exhausting. Yes, I make jokes about my DD having to clean out my craft room when I go. But I shouldn't joke because it's really not funny. My mom had to move to a one bedroom apartment after years of living in a house and she majorly downsized. And then she moved up to a more condo-style place with a full basement and she's back collecting again. I really hope that by the time she passes there isn't so much to clean out. My city sucks are recycle opportunities. I also feel like I should not have to pay to recycle and if one didn't have to pay, then maybe more people would reycle. Surely a recycle company makes profit off the items they accept as recycle. Maybe I need to learn more about that, but so is was not so expensive to recycle. I think its $10 a tv to drop off at one of our recycle places. This is a huge bone of contention for me, as well. I pay almost double my garbage bill for the "opportunity" to recycle. I am positive this is why so many houses on my street do not have recycling bins outside on recycle day...they just can't afford it. Hold on a minute. This applies to craft supplies too? Just kidding, sort of I still try to use everything until it is no longer useable with craft stuff. If I won’t use it I do try to find a home for it. I’ve stopped getting kits simply because there were always pieces that don’t appeal to me. So over the last few years I have begun a thought process when I buy things. No more buying in the middle of the night How much if it will I use Can it be repurposed Is it a small business or a large company I’ve if my biggest pet peeves is when companies stop supporting older tech. My computer still works just fine. But Apple will not allow newer downloads on it so banking institutions won’t speak to my computer. I really don’t need a new computer but tax time is hell. Really burns me up that they’ve just forced me in the market to replace it when I do not really need to.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 9, 2024 14:07:58 GMT
hop2 "I’ve if my biggest pet peeves is when companies stop supporting older tech. My computer still works just fine. But Apple will not allow newer downloads on it so banking institutions won’t speak to my computer. I really don’t need a new computer but tax time is hell. Really burns me up that they’ve just forced me in the market to replace it when I do not really need to." Gosh I remember when this started in the 2000's. Phones, laptops, and PCs began to become obsolete when consumers were pushed and then wanted the latest and greatest. Apple was the biggest pusher of consumerism with electronics. Add in the cost of keeping up not only to the consumer but also the companies lack of regard for environmental standards AND the horrible e-cycling we have...it is a recipe for disaster. Greed at so many levels.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 9, 2024 14:36:53 GMT
hop2 "I’ve if my biggest pet peeves is when companies stop supporting older tech. My computer still works just fine. But Apple will not allow newer downloads on it so banking institutions won’t speak to my computer. I really don’t need a new computer but tax time is hell. Really burns me up that they’ve just forced me in the market to replace it when I do not really need to." Gosh I remember when this started in the 2000's. Phones, laptops, and PCs began to become obsolete when consumers were pushed and then wanted the latest and greatest. Apple was the biggest pusher of consumerism with electronics. Add in the cost of keeping up not only to the consumer but also the companies lack of regard for environmental standards AND the horrible e-cycling we have...it is a recipe for disaster. Greed at so many levels. Granted, my laptop is 12, so it’s not totally ridiculous BUT it still does all the things I need it to do EXCEPT banking because I can’t download the latest browser because it’s ‘too old’ to support.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 9, 2024 15:21:44 GMT
hop2 "I’ve if my biggest pet peeves is when companies stop supporting older tech. My computer still works just fine. But Apple will not allow newer downloads on it so banking institutions won’t speak to my computer. I really don’t need a new computer but tax time is hell. Really burns me up that they’ve just forced me in the market to replace it when I do not really need to." Gosh I remember when this started in the 2000's. Phones, laptops, and PCs began to become obsolete when consumers were pushed and then wanted the latest and greatest. Apple was the biggest pusher of consumerism with electronics. Add in the cost of keeping up not only to the consumer but also the companies lack of regard for environmental standards AND the horrible e-cycling we have...it is a recipe for disaster. Greed at so many levels. Granted, my laptop is 12, so it’s not totally ridiculous BUT it still does all the things I need it to do EXCEPT banking because I can’t download the latest browser because it’s ‘too old’ to support. I can’t update my Google email password on my 2009 MacBook Pro because the OS can’t be updated anymore and it doesn’t meet Google’s security standards. And I haven’t been able to update my 2019 MacBook Pro the the most current OS because of some glitch and I’m going to have to take it to the damn Apple Store because none of the online fixes I’ve tried have worked. So frustrating.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 9, 2024 16:30:40 GMT
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