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Post by myshelly on Mar 30, 2024 1:59:27 GMT
Yes I think that tipping in the US is excessive and ridiculous. But.... not my circus, not my monkeys money. One thing I'm curious about..... How much are y'all paying for things like haircuts and massages? Because I pay $220 for my bi-monthly hair cut and colour, and a massage would cost around $80 for a one hour massage. That's way more than enough as far as I am concerned. It's a hell of a lot more than I am paid per hour! Maybe I'm only thinking about it in terms of supplementing their salary? So, if I think about tipping for good service, I guess my "tip" for good service is that they will get my repeat business. I have been going to the same hairdresser for close to 30 years. I have never once tipped her. In fact, there have been a couple of times that she has "tipped" me (in the form of a discount). Sometimes we may leave a small tip at a restaurant. Usually it's just a round up to the nearest $10. So if the meal comes to $124, we might round it up to $130. But that's the exception rather than the rule. I pay $85 plus 20% tip, so $102, for a cut ONLY with a curl specialist every 6 weeks. (And when I say cut only I mean she does not wash my hair, dry it, use any product, style it, etc. It’s a DevaCurl method salon, so I am supposed to do my wash day routine at home within 24 hrs of my appointment and come to the salon with my hair clean, dry, and my curls styled. If you want a wash/dry/style, etc., it costs extra. She doesn’t offer color services, I would have to go somewhere else for that.) As I said earlier in the thread, I do not care at all about the supplementing their salary aspect. I’m tipping for good service like working us into her schedule when she doesn’t have to (I need 4 appointments back to back for me and the kids and that’s hard to book), giving us styling tips, sending me links to recommended products. Stuff that she doesn’t have to do.
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Post by littlemama on Mar 30, 2024 2:33:51 GMT
Tipping is completely out of control in this country. We need to just do away with it completely.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 30, 2024 14:56:57 GMT
I tip at a takeout place that’s also a sit down place because they are still not paid a regular wage. Especially if it near me or near where I work frequently in case I’ll become a regular, I don’t want someplace I’m always going to go, to think I’m cheap or whatever.
I tipped the roadside assistance guy last week because he not only did the jump start, twice because it stalled, but also filled my low tire. It just felt right.
BUT I don’t like when a tip is expected! That really annoys me. I’m not tipping in a convenience store where I made my own coffee.
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Post by mammajamma on Mar 31, 2024 11:33:05 GMT
For people that tip because someone is paid minimum wage or worse a “server wage”, I don’t know how you know what people are making to judge your tip on that.
There are a lot of restaurants with high quality food that I go to where it’s counter service. You order and pay up front. Some call your number, some bring your plate, but then you bus your own plates. It always annoys me to be asked for a tip BEFORE you get your food. But I am feeling guilty enough to tip because 1) I have some amount of worry the quality of my meal could be affected if I leave no tip. 2) the types of these restaurants that I’m going to have foodie type of food.
I have never quite understood how the tips are shared among all the workers - not just the server. What about the cooks?
I have heard from a teenager who works in a food establishment that she doesn’t see credit card tips. I’m sure like most things, it probably depends on each owner/manager. I’m not sure you can make general rules. And I can’t ask people how their accounting or wages work before deciding a tip. Therefore, we should all tip based on what’s in it for us. The people working need to vote with their feet if they aren’t paid enough. That can be unfortunate but I can’t solve for that. I have been tipping out of guilt, sometimes just $1-$2 if it’s counter service.
The credit card tipping prompts have also gotten crazy. Often starting at 18% and going to 25%. And I have seen the choices jumbled too so if you just click the middle fast, you may be clicking 25%!
Cash tipping is not fair to paying into the taxing authorities. W2 income is taxed on every single dollar!! I only wonder what percentage of tips are reported as W2 income. I imagine it’s small.
I agree with the poster who said she nurses don’t get tipped. There are so many professions doing work with no tips. Some grueling. Trash collectors, people working on roads, sewage workers, police and firefighters.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Mar 31, 2024 12:22:55 GMT
Tipping in the US is excessive.
I tip: hairdresser, esthetician, sit down restaurant, food delivery to my door (groceries/takeout).
I will not tip if someone whips around an ipad with a tipping screen. I have no problem putting zero. I will not tip for on-line purchases, which I've seen more and more of lately.
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Post by alsomsknit on Mar 31, 2024 12:34:54 GMT
I tip for good service. Though, having been a waitress and knowing what people are like, I will tip a waiter/waitress well. I can probably count on 1 hand the number of times I haven’t tipped a waiter/waitress because the service was just that bad.
The hairdresser is also tipped well, because I am a PITA. Being touched is something I tolerate and can be difficult if I am in a pain flare. If my nerves are being unfriendly, I may have to cancel last minute. So, I tip very well and require the bare minimum…a simple cut. No wash. No style. My last stylist’s Mom had Fibromyalgia and was wonderful. She left the industry for a state job.
Normally, I won’t tip for take out or if ordering at a register type situation. Exceptions, the local Grille, the local coffee shop, and my favorite coffee shop that is too far away to be patronized frequently. These are mom & pop establishments where the service is exceptional and personal.
We haven’t ordered delivery in years. Though, they were tipped well.
Had no idea about tipping the hotel cleaning staff until this place. Can’t remember the last time we stayed in a hotel, though. If I were there for more than one night, I would tip.
The only other tipping situation I have encountered would be the dog groomer. She was also tipped well because Lil Bit is a PITA to groom and why I took him to the groomer. The other critters can be done at home with either DH or Jay’s help. Thankfully, the new puppy is agreeable to nail clipping, so they can all have this done by one of us.
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Post by katiekaty on Apr 1, 2024 3:57:32 GMT
Since I just about lost it on the Dominoes guy that I started a thread about being fed up with tipping my, I decreased my tipping by around fifty percent! I have since found out that many of the fast food places around here are paying much more than they were pre pandemic and are better staffed, restaurants are that same so I don’t feel guilty for a 15% tip, and not every service requires a tip as they are already receiving a fee for their service and if they are able to live on that, they need to evaluate their business plan or whether are employed at the best choice or should they consider a career change or additional education. I can’t be responsible for making up income differences if their employers don’t compensate them well enough. I can’t and will not compromise my own life’s worth for their bad employers choices. And extreme tipping will continue if it becomes accepted by costumers and demanded by service provider.
Latest tipping farce was tree removal service estimate given included $33.33 x3 (tip workers which included owner) on an 1800$ estimate. Estimated hours was 2.5 and did not include wood take away, that was another fee from the city. My MIL didn’t know what to do about it. DH called and told them to shove because he had another estimate for 1200, no tip and they would remove the wood scrap, root and branches a rake up any mess. Businesses are trying use the pandemic as a crutch still. The said it was so high because getting/finding people to work after Covid was hard.
McDonald’s near my house is having to turn away applicants because start off people at $14.50 and after 3 months move them to 15-15.75 an hour. Not too bad in a state with a very low minimum wage.
So I don’t tip for a lot of things I used to and never more than max 15 percent!
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Post by Embri on Apr 1, 2024 4:30:01 GMT
I don't tip. I also don't use any services that would expect tipping.
The exception is an online game where I will tip players who are running a service for free. But to me that's more someone's doing a favour not a job, it's only kind to offer them something in exchange for their time. Like a cup of coffee/tea when people come over and such. It's not my job to supplement an employer's fair wages and it should be illegal to pay anyone less than minimum wage.
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Post by pantsonfire on Apr 1, 2024 5:55:09 GMT
AussieMeg the last time I had a cut and color, it was $360 BEFORE tip. Yeah...I stopped after that when my grey began to show 2 days later. The cut itself was $80. I get the same cut for $25 now. And tip $5.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Apr 1, 2024 12:36:21 GMT
Latest tipping farce was tree removal service estimate given included $33.33 x3 (tip workers which included owner) on an 1800$ estimate. Estimated hours was 2.5 and did not include wood take away, that was another fee from the city. My MIL didn’t know what to do about it. DH called and told them to shove because he had another estimate for 1200, no tip and they would remove the wood scrap, root and branches a rake up any mess. Businesses are trying use the pandemic as a crutch still. The said it was so high because getting/finding people to work after Covid was hard. I have never tipped the tree services and never heard of anyone who has (well, until this board). Don't blame you for finding another company. If you are located where I think you are I can give you a referral to a company located just to the west of Houston (if not, ignore this). They thinned our live oak earlier this month and were fantastic. Did a great cleanup job as well. Very reasonably priced. Let me know if you are interested.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Apr 1, 2024 14:09:18 GMT
I tip for good service. Though, having been a waitress and knowing what people are like, I will tip a waiter/waitress well. I can probably count on 1 hand the number of times I haven’t tipped a waiter/waitress because the service was just that bad. The hairdresser is also tipped well, because I am a PITA. Being touched is something I tolerate and can be difficult if I am in a pain flare. If my nerves are being unfriendly, I may have to cancel last minute. So, I tip very well and require the bare minimum…a simple cut. No wash. No style. My last stylist’s Mom had Fibromyalgia and was wonderful. She left the industry for a state job. Normally, I won’t tip for take out or if ordering at a register type situation. Exceptions, the local Grille, the local coffee shop, and my favorite coffee shop that is too far away to be patronized frequently. These are mom & pop establishments where the service is exceptional and personal. We haven’t ordered delivery in years. Though, they were tipped well. Had no idea about tipping the hotel cleaning staff until this place. Can’t remember the last time we stayed in a hotel, though. If I were there for more than one night, I would tip. The only other tipping situation I have encountered would be the dog groomer. She was also tipped well because Lil Bit is a PITA to groom and why I took him to the groomer. The other critters can be done at home with either DH or Jay’s help. Thankfully, the new puppy is agreeable to nail clipping, so they can all have this done by one of us.I do tip our groomer bc my dog is a PITA as well.
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Post by casii on Apr 1, 2024 16:35:04 GMT
I'm sure the history of tipping has been discussed before but there's some pretty shady history to tipping. My DS had shared a podcast with me a few years ago on it. I couldn't locate that particular episode again, but found this article that shares the same info: Tipping kept wages low for former slavesAnd I'll tip for good service, but if I have to place my order on an app or via a kiosk ipad, pick up my order and bus my table, that's a nope from me. I was also at an airport recently where the store was self-serve and self-checkout. The register asked for tips. DH says this is because all POS (point of service) software programs now automatically add this, but considering businesses seem to have no desire to discourage from unwarranted tipping, businesses are complicit in adding to the problem.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 1, 2024 23:00:28 GMT
The only other tipping situation I have encountered would be the dog groomer. She was also tipped well because Lil Bit is a PITA to groom and why I took him to the groomer. The other critters can be done at home with either DH or Jay’s help. Thankfully, the new puppy is agreeable to nail clipping, so they can all have this done by one of us. I do tip our groomer bc my dog is a PITA as well. My dog groomer has just left. He charges $90. My dog isn't a PITA, but he hates getting a haircut. The groomer came inside and met DS's girlfriend's little puppy, who desperately needs a haircut. I mentioned that she would be a nightmare to cut, because she doesn't sit still and she has really sharp little teeth, and he would need to charge double. He laughed and said "That's puppy tax!" I don't know if he was joking or not!
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