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Post by nepean on Mar 13, 2015 20:00:45 GMT
Seems like she pays far too much attention to the silly magazines in supermarket check out! Those magazine are always spouting crap of some kind. I laugh often when I read things about the Royals, it is clear most, if not all is lies. An example just today, I read a magazine headline that Princess Kate is on bed rest, and yet we know she has had no less than 3 royal engagements in the past week! ETA: It seems the previous poster and I had the same thoughts at the same time On bed rest ......yeh right! she must have taken her bed to church then She was at St Pauls Cathedral in London today at the service of remembrance for the military that served in Afghanistan, heavily pregnant but wide awake and using her feet and legs to walk She visited the set of Downton Abbey a couple of days ago.......didn't see her taking a nap there either Some of these magazines must be desperate to fill their pages up with anything. AGREE! I just shook my head, I mean where do they come up with this stuff, and are they are proud to print such blatant lies? She still has a few engagements on the calendar as far as I can see.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 20:03:28 GMT
On bed rest ......yeh right! she must have taken her bed to church then She was at St Pauls Cathedral in London today at the service of remembrance for the military that served in Afghanistan, heavily pregnant but wide awake and using her feet and legs to walk She visited the set of Downton Abbey a couple of days ago.......didn't see her taking a nap there either Some of these magazines must be desperate to fill their pages up with anything. AGREE! I just shook my head, I mean where do they come up with this stuff, and are they are proud to print such blatant lies? She still has a few engagements on the calendar as far as I can see. I often ask that myself, some of it is hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 20:56:27 GMT
I was under the impression that the British people had warmed up to Camilla ? Nd don't they do a lot of charity work?
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Post by anniebygaslight on Mar 13, 2015 21:25:52 GMT
Another one here with a soft spot for Wills and Kate, and Harry. I don't mind Charles, I like Camilla and Anne, have no time for Andrew or Sarah Fergusson and can't see the point of Edward, Sophie or Beatrice and Eugenie.
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Post by winogirl on Mar 13, 2015 22:05:52 GMT
I have never,truly never, heard anyone say that they don't like The Duke and Duchess of Cornwall or Prince Harry. So I have no idea where this girl is coming from. Is she British? No! She wishes she was though. She thinks she is an expert on all things British for some reason. She tried telling me that Mary Queen of Scots was Henry VIII's daugher and was the same Queen Mary who sat on the English throne, which knew was not true. Another thing she told me was Queen Elizabeth can't stand Kate because she is a commoner and feels William married beneath him. Anyway... thank you all so much for taking the time to answer my question. It's been nagging at me for a few weeks and I'm glad to know my gut feelings about her tales were correct.
She's an idiot who doesn't even know basic English history.
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Post by gar on Mar 13, 2015 23:25:39 GMT
I was under the impression that the British people had warmed up to Camilla ? Nd don't they do a lot of charity work? Some have softened in their opinion of Camilla. It seems pretty obvious that she is accepted, and more, by Harry and William but there will always be a core who blame her for Diana's unhappiness.
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Post by workingclassdog on Mar 14, 2015 0:36:03 GMT
Wow I would be really sad if the UK people didn't like them.. I think they are awesome..closest thing I am to anyone British is my ex-stepmom who adores them and a teacher I work with but I don't know her stance. I should ask her.. I ask her crap all the time about London... in fact she gave me a huge lesson how she came to live in my little town... very interesting and very hard to do!
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Post by annabella on Mar 14, 2015 7:50:19 GMT
I have lots of questions just based on observations.
Kate is always holding her belly, is that so that it's clear in pictures now and the future that she is pregnant and not fat? Kind of reminds me of the rumor that the reason the Queen has a purse is so her arms have something to hold and don't swing down awkwardly.
What is William's job now?
I read that the Queen was upset with Kate because she is often seen with her skirt blowing up in the air, do you think there is truth to that?
Kate always has a big grin at events, as if she laughing hysterically with whomever she is talking to. I guess I can't imagine having that much entertaining small talk. Do you think that is part of her imagine campaign in filling Diana's shoes and winning people's hearts?
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Post by gar on Mar 14, 2015 8:34:50 GMT
I have lots of questions just based on observations. Kate is always holding her belly, is that so that it's clear in pictures now and the future that she is pregnant and not fat? Kind of reminds me of the rumor that the reason the Queen has a purse is so her arms have something to hold and don't swing down awkwardly. What is William's job now? I read that the Queen was upset with Kate because she is often seen with her skirt blowing up in the air, do you think there is truth to that? Kate always has a big grin at events, as if she laughing hysterically with whomever she is talking to. I guess I can't imagine having that much entertaining small talk. Do you think that is part of her imagine campaign in filling Diana's shoes and winning people's hearts? I think the likelihood of Kate ever looking fat is about the same as me being mistaken for her any day soon. I just think that when you're pregnant and you stand with your arms in front of you they just meet round the bump, it just happens. I doubt she's even aware of it. The story about the Queen and her bag goes that when she shifts it from one arm to the other it's a signal to the staff around her that she wants to move on.........apparently - as with all these stories we only know what we're told. Prince William is an Air Ambulance pilot as well as his active role as Prince and the engagements that entails. I have no idea about the skirt business. Maybe she advised her to be careful...who knows? There is no campaign for the Duchess to fill Diana's shoes as far as I'm aware. Why would there be? She's her own person and William clearly adores her. I haven't ever noticed her looking as if she's laughing hysterically but she probably works hard to make the conversation enjoyable for the people she's talking to and wouldn't want to offend people by looking bored. Maybe she's nervous. ETA - are you're possibly meaning, not that Kate should fill Diana's shoes but that she might become as well loved as Diana was, and be an asset to the monarchy? I'm sure that was a desirable outcome for the Palace and it seems she's had more help and guidance in her new role than Diana had, probably including advice for meeting endless people that she has to be seen as pleased to meet
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Post by BarbaraUK on Mar 14, 2015 10:32:39 GMT
I have lots of questions just based on observations. Kate is always holding her belly, is that so that it's clear in pictures now and the future that she is pregnant and not fat? Kind of reminds me of the rumor that the reason the Queen has a purse is so her arms have something to hold and don't swing down awkwardly. What is William's job now? I read that the Queen was upset with Kate because she is often seen with her skirt blowing up in the air, do you think there is truth to that? Kate always has a big grin at events, as if she laughing hysterically with whomever she is talking to. I guess I can't imagine having that much entertaining small talk. Do you think that is part of her imagine campaign in filling Diana's shoes and winning people's hearts? The Duchess of Cambridge usually holds a clutch handbag and gloves when in public, and/or is presented with a small bouquet of flowers - held by both hands in the centre of her body. At the moment, on the odd moments she doesn't have the bag or flowers she does what so many pregnant women do and rests her hands on the bump! Absolutely nothing at all to do with the reasons you suggest regarding photographs in the future. Prince William is working as a pilot for the Air Ambulance Service in East Anglia - a region of England. He is also doing public engagements and charity work. I am pretty sure that The Queen, at age almost 90, hasn't had the time or inclination to rebuke Kate about her skirt blowing in the air on the odd occasions it does! It can be very windy here in the UK and it is not unusual to see ladies in public trying to hold skirts down from blowing around....and at formal events, men trying to keep a hat on their heads! The wind sometimes takes Kate by surprise, as it does anyone else who lives here! Prince William and Kate get on very well with The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh.....and it seems they, and all the other grandchildren, text, email and phone her as any ordinary family do. Prince William and Harry have often mentioned texting and speaking to Granny from military postings in Afghanistan, visits abroad and events here. The thing you call a 'big grin' on Kate's face when meeting people is purely and simply just a lovely smile not at all 'hysterical' because she is a natural at talking to adults - and especially children - and making them feel at ease. It will have nothing whatsoever to do with any imagined 'campaign' to fill Diana's shoes and fill peoples hearts. She has no reason whatsoever to feel she has to run such a campaign because she has already won peoples hearts! Remember that she and William were a couple long before they married and the press and people in the UK were well aware of her then because she was often seen publicly with the Prince. Also, and often forgotten, is that when they got engaged and gave an interview from Clarence House to our TV companies, Prince William made a point of adamantly stating that Kate would be her own person and not a copy of someone else even though she was wearing his Mother's ring as an engagement ring. Kate has gone ahead and done just that - there is no comparison between how she conducts herself on public engagements, or in private it seems, and Diana. We should just see her as her own person Kate, Duchess of Cambridge! It is now a long time since Diana was part of the Royal public engagement scene and a lot of people here don't really remember her or are too young to know who she is at all so there would be little point in Kate trying to be a carbon copy. Kate has made her own mark here already judging by the copy cat hairstyles and clothing - one sees lots of 'would-be' Kates here every day! Just my answers to your questions!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 14:14:26 GMT
I have lots of questions just based on observations. Kate is always holding her belly, is that so that it's clear in pictures now and the future that she is pregnant and not fat? Kind of reminds me of the rumor that the reason the Queen has a purse is so her arms have something to hold and don't swing down awkwardly. What is William's job now? I read that the Queen was upset with Kate because she is often seen with her skirt blowing up in the air, do you think there is truth to that? Kate always has a big grin at events, as if she laughing hysterically with whomever she is talking to. I guess I can't imagine having that much entertaining small talk. Do you think that is part of her imagine campaign in filling Diana's shoes and winning people's hearts? I'll just agree with all that gar & BarbaraUK have said, which is spot on.
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Post by iluvpink on Mar 14, 2015 17:19:47 GMT
Oh my.......... I think as you already know that she's got her Mary's a bit mixed up! As for the The Queen and Kate....considering that all four of her own children married commoners I don't think the Queen would be all that bothered about her Grandson marrying one somehow I have a question. Was Diana considered a commoner, even though she had the title Lady Diana Spencer? All those titles, and what they mean, can be a bit confusing to me. Legally and technically, I believe so. I think as someone who follows royalty and aristocracy a bit but is not an expert by any means, that in the UK everyone except the sovereign and peers (dukes, earls, marquesses etc) are commoners, even prince and princesses. Diana was the daughter of an earl, so from an aristocratic family and her father was not a commoner but she was. I could be wrong but I've read this before. europeanroyalhistory.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/is-it-possible-for-a-royal-to-be-a-commoner/
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 17:25:56 GMT
Oh my.......... I think as you already know that she's got her Mary's a bit mixed up! As for the The Queen and Kate....considering that all four of her own children married commoners I don't think the Queen would be all that bothered about her Grandson marrying one somehow I have a question. Was Diana considered a commoner, even though she had the title Lady Diana Spencer? All those titles, and what they mean, can be a bit confusing to me. Yes technically she was commoner. The title of Lady Diana Spencer came from the fact that her father was an Earl. An Earl is a member of the nobility ( aristrocracy) rather than of Royal blood. Although she did have relatives that were actually descendants of Charles II but she herself wasn't a direct descendant. The title of Earl is a bestowed title and is usually hereditary as was the case of her father and now her brother the present Earl Spencer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 17:46:16 GMT
I have a question. Was Diana considered a commoner, even though she had the title Lady Diana Spencer? All those titles, and what they mean, can be a bit confusing to me. Legally and technically, I believe so. I think as someone who follows royalty and aristocracy a bit but is not an expert by any means, that in the UK everyone except the sovereign and peers (dukes, earls, marquesses etc) are commoners, even prince and princesses. Diana was the daughter of an earl, so from an aristocratic family and her father was not a commoner but she was. I could be wrong but I've read this before. europeanroyalhistory.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/is-it-possible-for-a-royal-to-be-a-commoner/You are right. It is possible technically for a Royal to be a commoner. In actual fact " technically" Princess Ann is and always has been. She does not have a peerage. Making William the Duke of Cambridge on marriage was a way to remove him as being a commoner too until he becomes King! As Princess Elizabeth the Queen was also technically a commoner until she did become Queen. Generally,we now think of commoners as being " common" people without titles or of Royal blood.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 19:22:27 GMT
@dottyscrapper & iluvpink - thank you both for your answers. This is an interesting subject for me. I didn't realize that a prince or princess is not technically royalty. I am pretty sure most Americans would miss that if it were a question on a test! Do you think that played into Princess Anne not allowing her children to have the titles of Prince and Princess? I always thought that it must be odd to be the grandchild of the Q ueen and not be titled.I don't think so but I could very well be wrong. The reason she gave at the time was that she wanted them to grow up as ordinary people without the burden of being labelled as royalty as far as it was possible. I don't think a " Title" is very important to her. Princess Anne is quite a " stubborn" lady and not known to " stand on ceremony" and she certainly doesn't suffer fools gladly. I like Princess Anne .....what you see is what you get with her and she's probably the hardest working Royal of them all apart from the Queen & Prince Phillip. She goes about her formidable charity work with no pomp or the expectations of " celebrity" status. But she is also very loyal to the Crown and takes her position quite serious. I think the media is a bit " frightened" of Princess Anne
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Post by Jockscrap on Mar 14, 2015 21:39:25 GMT
@dottyscrapper & iluvpink - thank you both for your answers. This is an interesting subject for me. I didn't realize that a prince or princess is not technically royalty. I am pretty sure most Americans would miss that if it were a question on a test! Well I'm a Brit and I'd fail the same quiz, because I definitely believed the children and grandchildren of the monarch to be royal. I think most Brits would be surprised that isn't the case. i don't know anything about the finer details and the technicalities, but I think it is pretty commonly believed that Princess Anne, her siblings, and their kids are part of the royal family and are therefore 'royal'. I've learnt more about our royals on 2Peas and here than I ever learnt in the UK!
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Post by Rainbow on Mar 14, 2015 22:36:30 GMT
William and Kate are OK but I have no use for Charles and Camilla. Cheaters are the lowest.
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Post by BarbaraUK on Mar 14, 2015 22:41:23 GMT
@dottyscrapper & iluvpink - thank you both for your answers. This is an interesting subject for me. I didn't realize that a prince or princess is not technically royalty. I am pretty sure most Americans would miss that if it were a question on a test! Well I'm a Brit and I'd fail the same quiz, because I definitely believed the children and grandchildren of the monarch to be royal. I think most Brits would be surprised that isn't the case. i don't know anything about the finer details and the technicalities, but I think it is pretty commonly believed that Princess Anne, her siblings, and their kids are part of the royal family and are therefore 'royal'. I've learnt more about our royals on 2Peas and here than I ever learnt in the UK!
The official website of The British Monarchy states: 'Generally speaking, the children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren of a Sovereign, as well as their spouses, are members of the Royal Family.' Royal Family
Names given in a list of the current Royal Family include The Queen, Duke of Edinburgh, Prince Charles, The Princess Royal (Princess Anne), Prince Andrew, Prince Edward, Prince William, Duchess of Cambridge, and Prince Harry etc. So at the moment, I am royally confused!!
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Post by hop2 on Mar 14, 2015 22:53:49 GMT
Omg grrrrrrrrrrrr
Kate is a young mother with a toddler and is pregnant again. Geez your friend ought to chill. I bet if Kate were making tons of appearances someone would complain she doesn't spend enough time with her toddler. She can't win with critics.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 23:30:36 GMT
Well I'm a Brit and I'd fail the same quiz, because I definitely believed the children and grandchildren of the monarch to be royal. I think most Brits would be surprised that isn't the case. i don't know anything about the finer details and the technicalities, but I think it is pretty commonly believed that Princess Anne, her siblings, and their kids are part of the royal family and are therefore 'royal'. I've learnt more about our royals on 2Peas and here than I ever learnt in the UK!
The official website of The British Monarchy states: 'Generally speaking, the children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren of a Sovereign, as well as their spouses, are members of the Royal Family.' Royal Family
Names given in a list of the current Royal Family include The Queen, Duke of Edinburgh, Prince Charles, The Princess Royal (Princess Anne), Prince Andrew, Prince Edward, Prince William, Duchess of Cambridge, and Prince Harry etc. So at the moment, I am royally confused!! Yes of course they are members of the Royal Family but historically unless you are a Sovereign or a Peer of the Realm( member of the aristocracy ) anyone else is technically a commoner. The Princes Andrew.Edward & William have a peerage but Princess Anne doesn't. I'm starting to doubt myself now.......off to check this out somewhere!! ETA .........At the moment and it's getting late this is what I've found:- Link to a PDF
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Post by BarbaraUK on Mar 14, 2015 23:45:11 GMT
The official website of The British Monarchy states: 'Generally speaking, the children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren of a Sovereign, as well as their spouses, are members of the Royal Family.' Royal Family
Names given in a list of the current Royal Family include The Queen, Duke of Edinburgh, Prince Charles, The Princess Royal (Princess Anne), Prince Andrew, Prince Edward, Prince William, Duchess of Cambridge, and Prince Harry etc. So at the moment, I am royally confused!! Yes of course they are members of the Royal Family but historically unless you are a Sovereign or a Peer of the Realm( member of the aristocracy ) anyone else is technically a commoner. The Princes Andrew.Edward & William have a peerage but Princess Anne doesn't. I'm starting to doubt myself now.......off to check this out somewhere!! OK, I've finally found something to explain it Dotty. I searched until I was cross eyed earlier but could not find anything about that. However, I had not hit on the absolutely correct search term it seems!
Royals Can Be Commoners
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 23:52:00 GMT
Yes of course they are members of the Royal Family but historically unless you are a Sovereign or a Peer of the Realm( member of the aristocracy ) anyone else is technically a commoner. The Princes Andrew.Edward & William have a peerage but Princess Anne doesn't. I'm starting to doubt myself now.......off to check this out somewhere!! OK, I've finally found something to explain it Dotty. I searched until I was cross eyed earlier but could not find anything about that. However, I had not hit on the absolutely correct search term it seems!
Royals Can Be Commoners
You did better than me.....I was also searching until I was cross eyed and beginning to doubt myself. Thank you....I knew that I'd been taught that they could be, some years ago and read it again somewhere when Prince William got married.
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Post by gar on Mar 14, 2015 23:53:26 GMT
Fascinating - you learn something every day!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 0:07:07 GMT
Fascinating - you learn something every day! I just can't wait until the moment comes when I can put this knowledge to use! I'll appear to be all knowing and oh so smart - all thanks to the Peas! You might meet the friend of the OP someday!!
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Post by BarbaraUK on Mar 15, 2015 0:15:57 GMT
I just can't wait until the moment comes when I can put this knowledge to use! I'll appear to be all knowing and oh so smart - all thanks to the Peas! You might meet the friend of the OP someday!! Well, you know what is said about 6 degrees of separation - and now we all have the knowledge to have a really good discussion with her!!
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