Nicole in TX
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Post by Nicole in TX on Aug 7, 2015 22:47:38 GMT
That's for full day. Half day is free. So essentially is replaces child care if you're a working parent. Oh, then you are paying for day care, not for school. That is different.
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Post by breetheflea on Aug 7, 2015 22:52:35 GMT
The fees are to pay for the teachers salary.
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Post by Nicole in TX on Aug 7, 2015 22:53:10 GMT
I have said every year but I will say it again, it BOGGLES my mind that some of you have to pay school registration fees, course fees (like Chemistry),etc. It really could be a class action lawsuit under FAPE.
And it make me laugh because if the schools I have worked at made students pay to register, nobody would register!
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 7, 2015 23:11:34 GMT
We do not have half-day kindergarten programs. Second paragraph on your linked page: The Fees for full day kindergarten(FDK) for school year 2015-16 will be $2,840 per year, payable in 10 equal monthly installments of $284, or a lump sum of $2,840, or two equal lump sums of $1,420 each(in Sept and Feb). There are no fees for half day kindergarten. I called and you have to ask for half day and then it's free, even at the non state-funded schools. Right. It's not a half-day kindergarten program. What it literally is is that you come in halfway through the full-day kindergarten program and retrieve your child from school. The academic program is day long so your child, for example, just wouldn't be there for the reading portion of the day. It is the exact equivalent of sending your child to first grade but picking them up halfway through the day. eta: that information is coming from the schools my kids attended/will attend and the other schools in their attendance clusters. I can't absolutely rule out the possibility that there is a half-day program somewhere in the district -- I know when we moved here, there was one that I was aware of that has been eliminated. It isn't something that is generally available geographically.
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Post by apmom on Aug 7, 2015 23:34:59 GMT
I'm in Ireland and we have to pay for everything in school. I'll have 3 in university in September hopefully which won't cost much as we only have to pay around €3000 student charge per person in Ireland if you're on a higher income. We don't have to pay this, just books and extra charges. . One daughter should be starting Transition year which will cost around €1000, aged 16. My son is starting secondary and we have to buy ALL his books, copies, calculator, pens and uniform and a 'voluntary' contribution (it's not voluntary) of €350 so well over €1000 for him. Ds aged 9 will cost around €350. I spent €200 on shoes alone today for the boys - trainers and black compulsory school shoes.
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Post by katybee on Aug 7, 2015 23:48:41 GMT
Sorry, I am going to win this one. My twins start PUBLIC SCHOOL kindergarten this month, and it is going to be $2840 each, or $5680 for the two of them. Public school. Carry on. What? That's crazy! We fill up every minute of our day with academics... Having said that.... I firmly believe that we have swung the pendulum too far in the academic direction. There is loads of research that shows a play based kindergarten will actually help students more than an academic-based one. There are studies that show children who learn to read earlier actually end up worse readers than ones that wait until first grade. They might be able to decode words, but their comprehension is sorely lacking. So as kindergarten teachers, we have to work extra hard to make sure that they get the comprehension piece too. It's like we cause a problem, and then have to work extra hard to fix it. That's what you get when you get politicians making decisions about education. I still believe very much in full day kindergarten. But I think kids should spend time in dramatic play, building things, being creative, listening and.responding to rich literature…. That's NOT daycare!
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 7, 2015 23:57:23 GMT
Sorry, I am going to win this one. My twins start PUBLIC SCHOOL kindergarten this month, and it is going to be $2840 each, or $5680 for the two of them. Public school. Carry on. What? That's crazy! We fill up every minute of our day with academics... Having said that.... I firmly believe that we have swung the pendulum too far in the academic direction. There is loads of research that shows a play based kindergarten will actually help students more than an academic-based one. There are studies that show children who learn to read earlier actually end up worse readers than ones that wait until first grade. They might be able to decode words, but their comprehension is sorely lacking. So as kindergarten teachers, we have to work extra hard to make sure that they get the comprehension piece too. It's like we cause a problem, and then have to work extra hard to fix it. That's what you get when you get politicians making decisions about education. I still believe very much in full day kindergarten. But I think kids should spend time in dramatic play, building things, being creative, listening and.responding to rich literature…. That's NOT daycare! My guess is that what makes it hard is that we have increasingly adopted uniform standards for what we expect from kids in each grade, and that kids aren't that uniform. My kids seem to be exactly ready for reading in kindergarten -- not before, when some kids in their preK classes have been ready, but really chomping at the bit right around five. They've had classmates who weren't ready and (from my non expert observations) seemed much more primed for reading in first or second grade. I'm glad my older kids got what I think they needed/wanted at the right age for them, and they remain engaged readers, but I imagine that different kids are ready at different times. Class size in my district is pretty high, though, so I don't envy teachers who try to teach a diversity of students at different paces.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 8, 2015 0:07:12 GMT
I believe kindergarten is beneficial but I don't believe that a full day program is necessarily better than a half day. Full day is more convenient for parents, and obviously cheaper for them. There are pros to having a shorter day for little ones. Actually it can be beneficial for kids. Our dd is ADHD and she does not do well without a routine. She would not have done well with the half day kindergarten schedule. It was not a half day Monday through Friday. It was 2 full days, one half day and two days off, on a rotating calendar. When she was kindergarten age, that schedule did not work for her as she was not able to control her ADHD as well as she can now. Her schooling was not about us, it was about her and her needs. She is now in high school, still ADHD and in honors and A/P classes. And no, paying for full day kindergarten was not cheaper for us, it cost us more to add that to our budget. We didn't decrease our daycare costs, we just added the school cost on top of the daycare cost. Not sure why it would be assumed it would be cheaper or about us.
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Post by bigbundt on Aug 8, 2015 0:12:21 GMT
Either we're coming off really lucky or we are going to get hit with a bunch of fees and requests when school actually starts! So far we're only $20 in for supplies. And that is four complete sets of supplies! (planned to send in a couple of sets and then more supplies throughout the year) We already have backpacks, lunchboxes, and clothes. I haven't heard or gotten any information on any other fees although I know the kids get iPads starting third grade and there is a fee for that, either $30 or $50, not sure.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 8, 2015 0:13:47 GMT
That is more than insane. I work at a private school. Full day kindergarten at our school is $3,150/year, discount for the second and it includes hot lunch every day. Private school kindergarten here generally is $12,000-$25,000, so the cost of private school is obviously significantly higher than public. Still, charging tuition for public school outrages me. I'm glad I don't live where you do! I'm dudnt pay that for two high schoolers. No hot lunch included, but netbooks were. ( so everyone could that the freakin PARCC test ) Last years fees: 0 tuition 0 book fees 0 lab fees ( including art supplies! even I had to buy art supplies in HS, even wood shop had pine if you couldn't afford wood) 0 bussing fees 0 band class fees 0 choral class fees ( might be trip fees if there's a trip) $25 net book insurance x2 $50 Random semi optional fees for honor society, PSAT fee, etc approx $125 child per year Sneakers that fit if I'm lucky $75 each ( not reall optional ) you can fail PE if you don't have appropriate sneakers. Marching band combined for two kids $600 optional One time $110 calculator purchase semi optional as teachers do have them in class but you can't take it home except for the SAT Winter percussion fee $250 optional Random supplies I buy optional $125 each kid Theoretically I could send my kids to school and pay next to nothing. I can't really think of any fees I HAVE to pay over the $25 netbook insurance and the random small stuff that adds up to about $225 a year. I guess that's why property taxes are so high here.
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Post by AnotherPea on Aug 8, 2015 0:15:37 GMT
I meant free full day is cheaper for parents opposed to half day and then paying for full, added to after school care.
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 8, 2015 0:19:01 GMT
Private school kindergarten here generally is $12,000-$25,000, so the cost of private school is obviously significantly higher than public. Still, charging tuition for public school outrages me. I'm glad I don't live where you do! I'm dudnt pay that for two high schoolers. No hot lunch included, but netbooks were. ( so everyone could that the freakin PARCC test ) Last years fees: 0 tuition 0 book fees 0 lab fees ( including art supplies! even I had to buy art supplies in HS, even wood shop had pine if you couldn't afford wood) 0 bussing fees 0 band class fees 0 choral class fees ( might be trip fees if there's a trip) $25 net book insurance x2 $50 Random semi optional fees for honor society, PSAT fee, etc approx $125 child per year Sneakers that fit if I'm lucky $75 each ( not reall optional ) you can fail PE if you don't have appropriate sneakers. Marching band combined for two kids $600 optional One time $110 calculator purchase semi optional as teachers do have them in class but you can't take it home except for the SAT Winter percussion fee $250 optional Random supplies I buy optional $125 each kid Theoretically I could send my kids to school and pay next to nothing. I can't really think of any fees I HAVE to pay over the $25 netbook insurance and the random small stuff that adds up to about $225 a year. I guess that's why property taxes are so high here. In fairness, I do not know about high school, but my older kids are going into fourth and eighth grade, and I have had to pay for optional band field trips for the older kid and a few other field trips for both of them, but the only other things I have needed to buy have been standard issue school supplies, and the only one of those that was significant was a particular kind of calculator. Although the elementary schools they have attended have have a $500-$1000 fundraising ask every year. That is a whole other thread.
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 8, 2015 1:42:24 GMT
I'm not even going to mention school fees, because I'll probably start sobbing!! Only another 7.5 years to go. We have mandatory school uniforms here. Even though it is really expensive to get your child kitted out (especially Year 7 which is the first year of high school), in the long run it ends up costing less. My DD is in Year 12 and she is still wearing the same 2 summer dresses that I bought her way back in Year 7. They were about $70 each but have lasted all 6 years of high school. I've had to buy 2 winter skirts for her but she is still wearing the same winter shirts, same blazer and same PE uniform from 6 years ago - awesome!! I have to buy DS new pants and shirts a lot more often, but luckily he just got some hand me downs from one of his mates who is taller than he is. I've just bought 2 new shirts @ $35 each, and sports socks @ $8.50 each. Socks!! $8.50!! WTH!! At the start of each year I have to spend approx $300 + for books and supplies for each child. Plus the $200 calculator for DD last year. DS needs a new pair of school shoes at the start of every year, they cost about $120 for a good pair. Music lessons are about $1200 per year. Excursions are covered in the school fees. School camps used to be covered by school fees but we have to pay extra now, about $200 - $400 depending on where they are going.
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Post by melanell on Aug 8, 2015 1:52:48 GMT
I think if I had 2 older kids, then maybe our total could get high, but right now, with one in elementary and 1 in middle school, we're no where near that amount.
But a big part of that is that I don't buy a new school wardrobe in the fall. They'll go back to school in the shorts they already have, and then as the cool weather approaches we'll see how many new pants they need. So our "back to school" amount might be low, but eventually we spend more.
So far I know I've spent right around $85 on just notebooks, pencils, pens, etc. (Some of that we didn't actually NEED, though. DS #2 doesn't get a list of things to buy, but #1 does. DS #2 just liked the idea of getting some "school supplies", too, so I picked up a pencil box, a new box of colored pencils, a folder, a notebook, some pencils, and a pair of scissors just so that he could have his own little stash of supplies. So, I'd say the total for we actually needed was about 10 bucks less.
I did spend about $35.00 on just a few new clothing items for them.
I do need a new lunch bag for DS #1, and that will probably run between $20 & $25. There will be a few things they will ask us to buy the first week of school, along with our PTA dues for each child, so those things will be about $65.00.
So, $75 +$25 + $35 + $65 puts us only at $200.00 for back to school. And even when I do buy more pants, there's no way they will add another $400.00+ dollars to our total.
But, yeah, if I had 2 high-schoolers things would be different.
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Post by melanell on Aug 8, 2015 1:55:51 GMT
Only kindergarten has registration here. And there are no fees for the actual schooling. Sports fees, music rentals, uniforms, etc. are a totally different matter. I don't consider those school fees. They are all optional because they are based on optional classes or extra-curricular activities.
We pay rental fees for DS's instrument, but if he had opted to take general music, chorus, etc., instead of band or orchestra, then we wouldn't have that. Plus, it's not paid to the school, but to the music store.
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Post by maryland on Aug 8, 2015 2:23:26 GMT
Just wait until they go to college! I'm trying not to add up the 3rd year costs....ugh! Actually DS in 10th grade has a $25 tech fee for the Chromebook usage, a $5 student ID and then supplies. He will be my cheapest for school-related expenses. Still does need new shoes and a few new shirts I forgot about college! Make it $45,000 for me this school year for my oldest. And that doesn't count books!
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Post by rebelyelle on Aug 8, 2015 2:39:10 GMT
We do not have half-day kindergarten programs. That's an issue you should take up with your department of education/instruction. However, if kindergarten isn't mandatory, it may not make a difference. Many places don't even start kids in school until 6/7 years of age. Finland doesn't until 7 and they have one of the most respected systems in the world. I know there are many things that other countries do that would never work here, but I am a huge fan of Finland's approach to early education. Yes, but the vast majority of Finnish children also attend pre-school, which likely sets them up for those successes later on.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 8, 2015 3:06:38 GMT
Wondering how long all day kindy is for that cost here full day only goes until 1:50 the same as 1-3 grade and then you add almost an hour for 4-8 this was at our old school not sure about our new area.
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Post by Rainbow on Aug 8, 2015 4:06:13 GMT
Wow. I just bought a backpack and lunch box with food containers. Geez.
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Post by PLurker on Aug 8, 2015 5:09:06 GMT
I have been saying for a long time that the cost of Christmastime has nothing on August. Crazytown, that month is for me. Add to school, birthdays that month, high a/c bill (usually), summer time "fun stuff".... I could go on but in the end, it's just for me- August= Expensive
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Post by uksue on Aug 8, 2015 9:44:35 GMT
How do really poor families pay those fees? Do their kids just not get to do things like sorts and band etc? I really couldn't afford those sums. Like Lesley I am in the UK and back to school is uniform ( which I think is economical - you know exactly what they are wearing each day and his school allows you to buy from anywhere as long as the colours are the schools.), good leather shoes and a little bit of stationary. I buy really strong backpacks to last 2-3 school years ( last years superdry looks brand new still) and a little but of stationary I buy year round when I see a good buy. The are school trips and occasional money raising days when a few pounds are needed but nothing like the money that is being discussed here
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Post by circusjohnson on Aug 8, 2015 12:38:52 GMT
I've paid 300 in just school fees for one in HS and on in JR High. These fees include their yearbook which I really don't consider optional. I give them each a 200 budget for school clothes. And I've paid about 60 dollars in school supplies! My total so far- 760! Tina
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Post by eversograceful1 on Aug 8, 2015 13:21:50 GMT
We got lucky with school supplies this year. The pre-packaged kit was only $38. +$100 fee to cover the cost of all fundraisers the school puts on. &135 for extracurriculars.
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Post by Nink on Aug 8, 2015 13:38:11 GMT
Reading this thread I'm so glad I'm the mother of a 30 yr old. When he was in school, all I bought was the occasional new backpack, school supplies, lunch box. As a single mom, there is no way I could have afforded the fees they have now. God bless y'all having to do it.
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Post by AnotherPea on Aug 8, 2015 13:52:40 GMT
Our schools are nothing like this. You could go the entire 13 years and not pay a dime, thanks to the generosity of community members.
In general, though, all you need to buy is a backpack and s handful of supplies ($20 or so if you watch sales). Any other expenses are because you chose electives that cost extra. Band requires around $150 for marching season but there are many ways to earn money through fundraisers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 13:58:58 GMT
If you include band camp I've paid:
camp - $139 (thankfully a scholarship covered the other half. Otherwise it would've been $275) band fee - $100 summer uniform - $60 (mostly because he's a freshman. Hopefully the shorts will fit all 4 years, shoes won't) Band rain coat - $65 optional but DS1 really wants one of his own instrument rental is $60/month (I really need to find one I can buy) Supplies will cost about $30 possibility of new band shirt for DS2 - $25 concert band clothes - ?? Will find out after marching season ends new shoes x2 - $30-60 each (we're going shopping today) yearbooks - $30 for one, $70 for the other
I'm not including clothes or pictures in that. I've noticed that elementary was mostly supplies and clothes. Middle school band required band shirts and instrument rental if you couldn't buy one or if the school didn't have enough. High school marching band is a whole new ballgame.
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Post by paigepea on Aug 8, 2015 14:58:56 GMT
I just paid my school supply fee for my two girls. Each cost me $35. Younger did (grade 2) won't need a pencil case yet but I'll provide older did (gr 5) with one. Notebooks, paper, binders, duotangs, are all provided with my fee. Younger did will have markers, crayons. Scissors, glue, etc all provided.
I pay $30 each for a field trip fee.
One dd takes lunchtime Israeli dancing for $100 for the year. Older dd's school activities are free -- choir, recycling, reading club, track.
I pay about $40 each for the girls to use the school bus one way all year.
My biggest expensive will be school uniforms. The sweaters are $50-60 each and older did needs 3 new ones this year. Luckily I pass the, down to younger dd. both girls need new shirts for the year, at $25 a piece it is costly. I get them each 4 for the year and cross my fingers thAt they last. Adding in school shoes and running shoes - it gets costly. I save on regular clothes.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 8, 2015 15:59:41 GMT
Wondering how long all day kindy is for that cost here full day only goes until 1:50 the same as 1-3 grade and then you add almost an hour for 4-8 this was at our old school not sure about our new area. Our full day kindergarten (fully funded by the district/state, including bussing for kids over a half mile from school) runs from 8:40 am until 3:10 pm, but once you tack on the 40 minute bus ride there and back, it makes for a really long day! If we wanted to add extended day before and/or after school, that would cost something but I'm not sure how much. I work from home, so having my kid out of the house from 8-4 is long enough. I'm sure she'll be tired once she gets home!
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Post by Dori~Mama~Bear on Aug 8, 2015 16:08:45 GMT
Thank god We don't have to buy school supplies. Daughter buys all her own. She is very picky and is old enough not to have mommy doing her shopping. I still laugh at her when she comes home and says hey mom look what I just bought and she has 20 of the same item in her room. She is a school supply hoarder. She can't help it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 17:37:19 GMT
I'll find out on Tuesday the total costs for my son. Registration usually runs close to $150.00. I KNOW driver's ed isn't a requirement, but that was over $200.00 this summer.
My daughter is in a new charter school. No idea on costs yet.
No fees can be charged to kids in grades K-6 in my state, so no fees for my youngest.
ETA: That doesn't include sports. I paid $200 for track last year. That's one of the cheap ones.
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