lesley
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Post by lesley on Sept 24, 2015 20:07:25 GMT
I remember my DD's P4 teacher telling me with a sneer how my daughter and her main working group all thought they were élite, and how she didn't allow that in her class. Those six kids were all extremely bright and had been pushed by their previous three teachers. They did not think they were better than the other kids at all, but they all fed off each other, and were about four grades higher in reading and maths. This teacher made them all mark time that year and refused to give them any further challenges. Despite pleas to the Head Teacher and the Education Dept from parents of all six, she got away with it. I can see now that she was lazy, and didn't want to take the extra time to stimulate them. It wasn't a particularly big class either; IIRC there were 21 kids.
It still makes me angry. DD had great teachers every other year, but she became really timid and lost a lot of self-confidence that year.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 24, 2015 20:10:32 GMT
My brother had a teacher that regularly assigned a family tree project. Since we have a big family and he is the youngest, my parents were older when he was born. All of our grandparents were dead and our dad had passed away too, so he was having trouble doing the assignment but did the best he could. When he turned it in with many blanks not filled in, he told her that his dad and all his grandparents were dead so there was no one else on that side of the family to ask. She replied, "I'm SURE you can DIG SOMETHING UP." Really? The kid ran all the way home crying. What a witch. Yeah, my mom had words with the principal over that one.
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PaperAngel
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Post by PaperAngel on Sept 24, 2015 20:41:54 GMT
Given that you "feel like teachers say inappropriate things all of the time," I doubt you'll ever be pleased with any of your children's teachers. While you perceive your daughters' actions as wanting to be challenged, it's important to remember from the teachers' perspective they are going off task. Your daughters' classrooms do not revolve around them, so you should meet with their teachers to discuss how you can challenge them at home in their subjects of interest, redirect focus to the subjects in which they struggle, or introduce a language/instrument/sport/etc. They should not be taking upon themselves during class to revamp math problems/questions/etc.; teachers view this as a lack of self-control.
Hope your daughters have a great school year!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 20:49:13 GMT
I had a crazy 6th grade teacher who would talk to herself. One day she was using the overhead projecter and leaned over to see her writing. She was umm, bigger chested and she said, "Your always getting in the way!". There were a couple of kids that stole candy bars from my dd's 4th grade teacher. This happened while there were many students in the hall. She was yelling at the principal. "I don't care if their parents call and say I called them liars because I did!" She went on and on and on. It's hard to explain but she sounded like an older sister who found out her younger sibling had been snooping in her diary.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 20:51:11 GMT
Whew, where to start?
A third grade teacher teaching nutrition: told the kids hot dogs are filled with scrapings from the floor. Her lectures got much worse because my son stopped eating a couple of things that were his favorites. BUT one girl stopped eating . I heard that they threaten the teacher, and brought the head of the school board with them to have a chat with the teacher. There were no more nutrition lectures the rest of the year.
Fourth grade teacher told my son what to write on the wasl. This was just a minor doing.
So much more to tell but you would not believe it. Unfortunately my son is brilliant but very lazy and having poor teachers didn't not motivate him at all.
My daughter's teachers. It is a good thing that daughter is a self motivator. Since kindergarten.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Sept 24, 2015 21:20:31 GMT
I have a friend who was VP and one year there were a group of kids who everyone felt were stealing things. They thought they had them caught. So they were in his office and he told them, he was going to step outside and if they didn't come up with the stolen goods they would be searched.
He went back in his office and they were all 4 sitting there naked!!!
He was freaked out. He called the parents and 2 of them knew about the stealing of things and it all was sorted.
As a high school teacher I would sometimes say inappropriate things, if I thought I could get away with it.. always for affect and usually for a laugh.
One day I was walking down the hall, I had put on some weight and a student said <" Looking a thick around the middle Ms.KtDoesn'tScrap" I looked up and down the hall no one in sight.. I said, " Awe fuck off Phillipe" He burst out laughing and every time he would see me for the rest of that year he would laugh.
I once showed the movie Salvador in a summer school class. When preparing my lesson I skipped through the beginning and focused on the historical parts.. when I showed it I didn't do that. The first 10 minutes were james Belushi and James Wood talking about pu$$y. I kept thinking it would be over quickly and tried to talk over it.
Not my best moment as a teacher, I expected some complaints.. not one. I figured those kids who had to retake world history.. 20 hours a week, were just thrilled to actual watch something entertaining.
Last one... when my daughter was in 4th grade her music teacher had her be part of an older students science experiment. They had to watch the scene in the Hunger Games where Rue dies, over and over and each time they played different music and they had to say how they felt about the scene. The fact that the student doing the experiment wasn't even 13, or that the students she was doing the experiment on weren't 13, or that my daughter told the teacher she was not allowed to watch The Hunger Games, and asked to stop, and was crying,.. none of that registered with the teacher that it was a bad idea. When I wrote her and asked about it. She wrote me a two page email about how music and science should be taught together. Luckily my daughters classroom teacher took it to the principal who had the teacher apologize. But I think she always thought it was much ado about nothing.
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Post by M~ on Sept 24, 2015 21:23:25 GMT
I would love to hear from teachers about inappropriate things parents say. Somehow I think theirs would be way more interesting. when I see threads like this I wonder why anyone would ever consider teaching as a career anymore. Dealing with parents' 'special snowflake' issues would be unbearable. That would probably be a very funny thread. Having said that, I don't hold kids to the same standard as I do teachers. Sure, kids need to behave, but the fact that kids say inappropriate things does not mean that teachers have a right to do the same or even "should" do the same.
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Post by rickmer on Sept 24, 2015 21:27:24 GMT
yah, i could think of *many* things i have heard over the years although this comment was said to ME:
first sk parent/teacher conference, her teacher told me "mini-merrick is very.... umm.... what's the word i am thinking of.... gee.... i find she can be.....". so i tried to help and said "determined?" and she said "no, that's not it. annoying, she can be annoying". i was like "wtf?!?!". first kid, didn't want to overreact but really?? because she jumps up and down with her hand in the air when she thinks she knows the answer....in kindergarten!?
i thought perhaps she shouldn't be teaching kindergarten. dd was in french immersion so dh suggested maybe it was because english was the teacher's second language. but it's not. she is a brit, french is not her first language!! turns out, she had just found out she was (surprise!) pregnant with number 3, was over 40 with 2 special needs boys already. ended up having her as my dd's resource teacher, ds1's teacher and learned to love her. but not a great (almost) first impression.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 21:29:44 GMT
My kids have had amazing teachers and clunkers for teachers. I don't recall anything being so bad that we thought we had to intervene, coming from a teacher or sub. Now with my son, there have be a lot of issues where he was not being given proper protection and I had to put my foot down, including hiring an advocate and bringing up the idea of legal assistance. For the most part, the teachers did the best they could but were not being backed up by the administration in the school. It was them I came down hard on.
I have 8 more months. Then I'm done. I'm crossing off the days on the calendar.
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Post by AnotherPea on Sept 24, 2015 21:35:04 GMT
Ok, I'll play. Because I agree, as a PP stated, that there are some crappy teachers out there. And there are some good teachers that either let things slip or have bad days at work.
Crappy teacher in tenth grade - hated me from the first week that I joined her class, because I had moved mid-year and messed up her gradebook. It was a World History class. I signed up to do a report on Italy but another kid wanted to research that country too. She asked me why I wanted it and I told her that I had some pictures from my last trip there and wanted to use them. But I could do Austria instead if it was available. I had pictures from there too. She started calling me Rich White Bitch from then on. I had to meet with the principal myself to get that one resolved.
DD had a brand new teacher that tried too hard to be the kids' friend. She used "sexy" as a synonym for "cool." As in, "you need to read Ch. 2 tonight. It has some really sexy info in it." "Don't forget - school is sexy! Try hard!" Not appropriate for sixth graders. I sent her an email suggesting she change her language, as a mom and a fellow teacher. She did.
DD had a teacher a few years later that was BFFs with the crappy teacher I had. Just as mean and just as racist. She too had an issue with us because dd transferred into her room after the official drop/add time had passed. The teacher wouldn't respond to my emails and would tell dd that if she was "too smart" to be in the other class (non-honors) then she shouldn't have to worry about all of the zeros she had in HER class because of the missed three weeks. She refused to transfer the grades from the other section into her grade book or let dd make up the missed work. Fortunately for me I worked in a different school with some of her other friends, who are black, and who also had kids at dd's school. So on Open House night, when the teacher wouldn't talk to me about dd's zeros, I mentioned the connection and called one of those mutual friends of ours to stop by her room while I was in there. G did, gave me a big hug and the teacher said "oh, you DO have black friends!" and promised to get dd caught up the next day after school. A few weeks later dd tripped while in the classroom and some kids snickered. The teacher got upset, went to dd's defense fussing about how dd was an "okay white girl" and she didn't want anyone picking on her.
I am very blunt and sarcastic in my classroom. I like to pick on kids and in general we have a good time. I'm also very strict and won't take much crap from students. Today as students were looking over their notes before a test, one kid decided to run that mosquito app that causes a shrill, high-pitched noise that only younger people can hear. Lots of kids were complaining. No one would admit doing it and there was no way for me to stop it myself. I'm pretty sure I know who it was, but no way to prove it. I made the announcement that I was not going to give a test when the testing environment wasn't ideal so if the noise continued, I'd postpone the test until tomorrow. At which time I would give the make-up version which was not multiple choice. The noise stopped. I won't be too surprised if I have an email or two from an angry parent for threatening to change the test format and/or using negative peer pressure to get my way.
Off to create another spin-off thread about all the stupid things parents say to teachers now. I have many more stories to share there!
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Post by SockMonkey on Sept 24, 2015 21:35:21 GMT
I would love to hear from teachers about inappropriate things parents say. Somehow I think theirs would be way more interesting. when I see threads like this I wonder why anyone would ever consider teaching as a career anymore. Dealing with parents' 'special snowflake' issues would be unbearable. Trust me. The stories we could tell about parents FAR outweigh the crazy that some teachers display. But, because it's so EFFING SAD, we don't really revel in telling stories about it on the Internet.
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Post by Judy26 on Sept 24, 2015 21:38:45 GMT
I had an inappropriate moment a couple of weeks ago. Some large air force jets were doing practice drills and for some reason they flew very low quite close to our school. I was in the HS library and when I heard the first plane I glanced out the window. I thought the plane was crashing. I jumped up and yelled "holy shit!" It scared the crap out of me. The kids in the library were all startled, too. After the tenth and final plane flew by they all started laughing and said they never thought they would hear those words come flying out of my mouth.
Since we are not close to any military base, this fly over was the talk of the town and I've heard from several sources that my vocabulary choice that day was a great story told around the dinner table that night.
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Post by nurseypants on Sept 24, 2015 21:55:24 GMT
I would love to hear from teachers about inappropriate things parents say. Somehow I think theirs would be way more interesting. when I see threads like this I wonder why anyone would ever consider teaching as a career anymore. Dealing with parents' 'special snowflake' issues would be unbearable. That would probably be a very funny thread. Having said that, I don't hold kids to the same standard as I do teachers. Sure, kids need to behave, but the fact that kids say inappropriate things does not mean that teachers have a right to do the same or even "should" do the same. Parents, not kids!!
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Post by Kerri W on Sept 24, 2015 21:56:46 GMT
My brother had a teacher that regularly assigned a family tree project. Since we have a big family and he is the youngest, my parents were older when he was born. All of our grandparents were dead and our dad had passed away too, so he was having trouble doing the assignment but did the best he could. When he turned it in with many blanks not filled in, he told her that his dad and all his grandparents were dead so there was no one else on that side of the family to ask. She replied, "I'm SURE you can DIG SOMETHING UP." Really? The kid ran all the way home crying. What a witch. Yeah, my mom had words with the principal over that one. I had a similar experience. My mother grew up for the most part in foster care. My paternal grandfather passed away when my dad was a teen. There was very limited information about my extended family. I'm so happy to see family tree/history projects aren't as popular in school anymore.
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Post by vspindler on Sept 24, 2015 22:09:20 GMT
I think there is a difference between a teacher accidentally saying something (accidentally swearing) and saying something that a reasonable person should know that is wrong (you're evil because you're left handed).
back when I was in middle school, 20+ years ago, we had a teacher who tried telling us that we were all gods. To the point where he took the poster with the quote about "the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil was for good men to do nothing" and blacked out one of the o's on "good". We spent a good chunk of religious class that week telling Sister Jean all about it.
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Post by AnotherPea on Sept 24, 2015 22:17:52 GMT
I would love to hear from teachers about inappropriate things parents say. Somehow I think theirs would be way more interesting. when I see threads like this I wonder why anyone would ever consider teaching as a career anymore. Dealing with parents' 'special snowflake' issues would be unbearable. Trust me. The stories we could tell about parents FAR outweigh the crazy that some teachers display. But, because it's so EFFING SAD, we don't really revel in telling stories about it on the Internet. I should have taken your high road.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 24, 2015 22:26:55 GMT
Oh man - I have one I've never forgotten. In middle school, there was a boy in my class with the last name "Bates" He called him Master Bates the entire year. I mean what the hell was he thinking? I'm surprised the boy never told someone. He'd just get embarrassed as half the class laughed, and half tried to figure out why it was funny.
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Post by malibou on Sept 24, 2015 22:34:30 GMT
In 7th grade DS had an awful math teacher. He had always excelled at math - even have a note from his kindergarten teacher asking us to ask him to quit trying to explain multiplication to the other kids. This teacher was rather old, but damn she was inexcusable. She repeatedly called my son a liar and a cheat in front of the class. It was a pre-algebra class and he was finding other ways to get the right answer. When he went up after class to ask her for an explanation, she said, "Oh you can't do it like that because later it will be a problem. Sorry I called you a liar and cheat." Only to do the same thing to him over and over. We kept trying to explain to him that he had to do it the way it was taught, but he couldn't seem to grasp that idea. We did not go speak to the teacher as we knew our kid was certainly part of the problem, but as soon as the school year was over, I went to his guidance counselor to make sure he would not have that teacher again. The guidance counselor was livid and asked for my permission to talk to the principle. I said no problem as long as my kid doesn't have her again. I guess he wasn't the only one, as she was not back the next year, but had been replaced with her clone and yes, DS had her too, though we did have the problem of other solutions fixed and she never called him a liar or cheat, she was dreadful in other ways. For 2 years my kid had straight As in every class and Ds and Fs in math. He is now a freshman and has had 100% on every single assignment and the teacher suggested last week that perhaps he needs to be moved up to the more accelerated class. Go figure.
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Post by ten&rose on Sept 24, 2015 22:53:19 GMT
My oldest is in 6th and I for the first time last week I had to call the principal about a teacher. The sub said to her class, "I don't mean to be a d**k but you guys are pissing me off." Yes, there are some students who are turds in her class but that crossed the line for me.
Now to tattle on myself. One summer my friend and I did summer care for our school. One of the weekly activities was going to the movies. The schedule said Dr. Doolittle 1 but they showed Dr. Doolittle 2 and about halfway through we realized the mistake. NBD except one was rated PG and one PG13 and had some language and themes that were not appropriate for our preschool-6th grade kids. We had to personally explain and apologize to all the parents as they picked up that day.
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Post by RiverIsis on Sept 25, 2015 0:37:09 GMT
One day I was walking down the hall, I had put on some weight and a student said <" Looking a thick around the middle Ms.KtDoesn'tScrap" I looked up and down the hall no one in sight.. I said, " Awe fuck off Phillipe" He burst out laughing and every time he would see me for the rest of that year he would laugh. Now I want to say "Awe fuck off Phillipe" in a Bye Felicia sort of way.
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Post by huskergal on Sept 25, 2015 1:25:25 GMT
Whew, where to start? A third grade teacher teaching nutrition: told the kids hot dogs are filled with scrapings from the floor. Her lectures got much worse because my son stopped eating a couple of things that were his favorites. BUT one girl stopped eating . I heard that they threaten the teacher, and brought the head of the school board with them to have a chat with the teacher. There were no more nutrition lectures the rest of the year. Fourth grade teacher told my son what to write on the wasl. This was just a minor doing. So much more to tell but you would not believe it. Unfortunately my son is brilliant but very lazy and having poor teachers didn't not motivate him at all. My daughter's teachers. It is a good thing that daughter is a self motivator. Since kindergarten. I don't have a problem with letting children know what is in the food they are eating.
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Post by RiverIsis on Sept 25, 2015 1:36:25 GMT
hmmm I'm the child of a teacher (so no anti-teacher agenda here) and I still could probably right a book.
Personal experiences -
Went to Catholic school first 2 years. I was bullied by the kids/teachers for being an only child (not by choice) so moved to public system 3rd grade.
Was in a play and was told I forgot my lines when the other student did so the next year I wasn't picked for the drama program as I wasn't good enough. I went on to win acting awards for my school.
I was in Beta Club. The Sponsor made up new rules every year to favor her favorites. The rule this year was that even if you did everything, if you missed the set up of this one event you didn't get to go on the end of year trip. I ended up very ill, with a doctor's appointment and note, that day and begged to go but they wouldn't let me. She was furious when she went to kick me off the end of year trip and my mother contacted the school and pointed out that I had a doctor's note and was advised not to be at school. (FWIW I wasn't a special little snowflake).
When I was in band, the director said to me "I wish all students were like you", later that year I auditioned and was chosen to be Drum Major/Field Commander for the marching band. Over the summer prior to marching season he "accidentally" left some music at his apartment, I went in the car with him as we were running errands as well, but he got upset when I didn't go in his apartment with him. Then he started making up lies about me and spreading them to the students. I quit band. He started dating a different student. They took romantic walks in my neighborhood.
I took typing (oh those were the days) as an elective. Our normal teacher was out and the Assistant Principal took the class. He came up behind me and moved my chair as I went to sit. I muttered "Asshole". He sent me to the office. I told the Principal. He sent me back to class. The rest of the year you could hear students say to the Assistant Principal "Kristen was right".
My kids definitely weren't special snowflakes if they were wrong etc. I made them step up and sort it out. I only went up to bat for them if I felt things were not handled well.
We had teachers at my eldest son's primary school think it was ok for him to walk around with a shirt that said "Kill me" on the back all day on the last day of school. I complained to the school. They lost the complaint. I complained again and they tried to say it was too late as it happened last year and they don't have bullying at their school. Can't say I cried when I heard the Head Teacher died a few years ago.
Had a teacher that told me I had to give a 5th grader the answers on a Junior Achievement field trip because it was "too hard". I had gone and had special training as a helper on my own time/money. The student had complained to her that I wouldn't give her the answers and would only help her find them. Student was the local Pediatrician's daughter and graduated Valedictorian, I think she could have worked it out.
Had a teacher come out into the car park when I was collecting DYS and proceed to yell at me and my son through the car window about what an awful student he was etc. in front of everyone. I came home and contacted the school office.
And I am still a huge advocate for Public Schools and all the Awesome Teachers we have had. Heck this probably should go in the other thread, but my DES came home from school his HS Freshman year and begged to be moved out of his Science Class. His science teacher was new to the school and his class had a lot of troublemakers. I talked him about it and it would have moved his entire schedule so we decided to bear it. She taught at a science summer camp the following summer and took him along as a free student (all the teachers could bring one student). She had him 3 years in the end, we were sort of sad when he had to move to Chemistry his senior year although we already knew the awesome Chemistry teacher.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 2:13:00 GMT
Whew, where to start? A third grade teacher teaching nutrition: told the kids hot dogs are filled with scrapings from the floor. ] I don't have a problem with letting children know what is in the food they are eating. Not in third grade and not to the point you make a child stop eating. The girl had serious issues after this and took a long time before she would eat. . The teacher not only bashed processed food, but meat, fruits and veggies if not organic.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Sept 25, 2015 2:18:22 GMT
One day I was walking down the hall, I had put on some weight and a student said <" Looking a thick around the middle Ms.KtDoesn'tScrap" I looked up and down the hall no one in sight.. I said, " Awe fuck off Phillipe" He burst out laughing and every time he would see me for the rest of that year he would laugh. Now I want to say "Awe fuck off Phillipe" in a Bye Felicia sort of way. Ha!! Funny!!! I do think it often when people annoy me.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 25, 2015 4:36:08 GMT
My son's 7th grade science teacher had him convinced that evolution was a hoax and that creationism was the right answer. He wanted to go to the creationism museum to which I informed him that I would be struck by lighting if I stepped foot in that place.
I'm still pissed and ds #2 will have him next year
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Post by RiverIsis on Sept 25, 2015 5:04:47 GMT
My son's 7th grade science teacher had him convinced that evolution was a hoax and that creationism was the right answer. He wanted to go to the creationism museum to which I informed him that I would be struck by lighting if I stepped foot in that place. I'm still pissed and ds #2 will have him next year No. It is science. Science should be presented in science class. Evolution is a scientific theory. Creationism is a religious theory. They are two entirely different subjects.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Sept 25, 2015 5:28:56 GMT
Would this be the right thread to bring up the journalism teacher who molested me?
Cause I'm pretty sure "su#% my Pr€#%" was inappropriate, as well as "you have beautiful #%~*s"
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Post by betty on Sept 25, 2015 5:33:45 GMT
So this afternoon ds (5th grade) came home and was upset that the substitute PE teacher yelled at them, "All of the boys are acting like a bunch of pricks right now!". He says only 3 boys were acting bad and he thinks the teacher used a bad word! Oh boy!
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Post by snugglebutter on Sept 25, 2015 5:47:37 GMT
I was raised by a teacher and I'm now married to one, so I'm hardly anti-teacher. That said, I've heard some doozies from both sides!
I had a science teacher in for two years in middle school who taught his subject, but mostly talked about himself. He would go on and on about his volunteer work and the awards he received for that. He also talked a lot about how strict he was with his kids. I remember how "off" the whole thing seemed but at that age I couldn't really make sense of that feeling either. Years later he spent time in jail for domestic/child abuse charges that came out when his wife left him. So awful.
Then a few years after I graduated one of my former high school history teachers made a HUGE stink to change the graduation ceremony awards. Instead of recognizing the valedictorian and salutitorian, they named the "top 3 graduates" and had three student speeches instead of two. Her child came in third. I have no idea why the district gave into her demands. She was previously a well-liked teacher but she lost all respect from a number of people with that stunt - which I guess was a combination crazy parent AND teacher story.
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Post by Grom Pea on Sept 25, 2015 6:08:54 GMT
Dh just told me a story about how when he was in 2nd grade they moved and he rode his bike to school, so he wore shorts and changed into pants for class. It was hot at recess so he changed back into shorts for the rest of class and the teacher asked him loudly in front of the entire class if he had wet his pants because he had to change. Apparently after that he was bullied so much that he wants to home school. (Well that and something called post secondary enrollment, which is unrelated ) Like what made her think that her comment wasn't going to alienate the new kid?
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