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Post by scrappintoee on Dec 12, 2015 13:50:36 GMT
I've been doing LOTS and LOTSSSssss of reading about KRATOM---a supposed herbal pain reliever. It's interesting
to me that it is illegal in about 7 (?) states (approximately.....don't remember the exact number). With
my myriad of chronic pain issues and MULTIPLE doctors, Physical Therapy, Swimming, Massage, Ice, etc. etc.
etc. etc. and NONE of it working, I am VERY temped to try this!!! The only thing I take now is 4 Motrin, and
I try to keep that to once a day. It helps a LITTLE bit, but barely! Oh, but ICE----ICE is my best friend lately!!!
I've already posted several times on this topic, and asked about what types of meds many of you take, what
non-weight bearing exercises you can do, etc, and I
appreciate ALL the info and encouragement! I try---I REALLY try to just accept that this is how it is, and even
attempt to stay positive most of the time, even on the days I can barely walk due to left hip and right foot
issues.......
But recently, my wrist decided to start hurting, too--- and there are times
that my wrist hurts SO badly, I can't even write more than a couple words. Here's a GREAT example of
IRONY----I recently discovered that crossword puzzles are the ONE thing that get me SO absorbed, they
are a FUN distraction from my pain !!! The times my wrist hurts horribly, I stay away from the
my awesome puzzles, don't write at all, and also try not to text/ post at all.
Just like with ANYthing I'm going to ingest, I do LOTS of research, and I am ALWAYS skeptical. It bothers
me that anything herbal is never guaranteed and we really have NO idea what's really in it !!!
I'm curious if any of you have tried Kratom (or some other type of herbal supplement) for pain !??!
Also----do you know of a company that only supplies HIGH QUALITY supplements ? Is there such a thing? LOL!
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Post by gsquaredmom on Dec 12, 2015 14:03:35 GMT
No. But curious, I googled. I read enough about addiction and death to know it would not be something I would choose.
I hope you find an answer. Pain sucks.
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Post by desertgirl on Dec 12, 2015 14:37:51 GMT
I am going to recommend deep tissue or medical massage for you. I live with terrible chronic pain and have tried many, many things and the best thing has been the massage. It's not a spa massage, though hahaha!
I do arm and hand exercises from the massage therapist every morning as I arise from bed. It is essential to stretch your muscles.
And you really ought to see a DOCTOR for new pain. You could have something systemic.
Exercise is your friend, in spite of pain. Just go easy for awhile and stretch first. Stretch, stretch, stretch.
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Post by scrappintoee on Dec 13, 2015 0:32:55 GMT
Thanks, ladies. dessert girl---Omg, I did treat myself to a deep tissue massage a couple months agooo---awesome!!!  And believe me, I have been to SO many doctors!!! A few months ago, I even tried a Board Certified Pain Specialist......aside from ALL his other wonderful credentials, the website said he did accupuncture----I was so thrilled to try it, not to mention a million other things---but he said he did not do accupuncture any longer. I went to him instead of my ASSORTMENT of MD's who treat different parts of me-----I thought a PAIN SPECIALIST would address ALLL my pain. I was SO disappointed when he was so focused on my SPINE (where i have NO PAIN, but yes---there are issues!) when what I WANTED was something natural to help my horrible ACHILLES, HEEL, and HIP pain. I'm adding this later, so you may not see it----but I also meant to say that my labwork from different doctors I've been to is very good! But again, I DO appreciate your info---thank you! I brought several MRIs of my hip, wrist, and ankle/ foot, and ALL the other orthopedic surgeons agreed that my horrible HIP pain was NOT caused from my spine (in some cases---yes---but NOT MINE!!!!) My MRIs and Xrays all say the same thing-----advanced osteoarthritis, joint thinning, and bursitis of the hip-----there is no surgeryl needed. My ACHILLES and HEEL issues are definitely NOT caused by my spine, either----yet----ALL this pain management doctor wanted to do was epidural injections into my spine......NO THANK YOU....that's not going to help my FOOT !!!!!!!! UGH!!! |
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Post by anonrefugee on Dec 13, 2015 19:37:53 GMT
Interesting, but I too would be worried about addictive properties.
I'm sorry.
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Post by scrappintoee on Dec 15, 2015 18:45:36 GMT
gsquared & anonrefugee----agreed! Any med / supplement can be scary!  I just wanna say again, as I've said in many threads here before----I am very sorry to those who are in pain----I pray for everyone (and me) all the time!!! It is overwhelming sometimes; and I am SO SO grateful that it hasn't thrown me into a horrible depression, because in the past, I really think it would have! I give all the credit to God, and also----Motrin, hot baths, massages, ice, and heat !!! THANK YOU to all who have given me GREAT advice, helpful tips, and encouragement!! I give the same back to you !!! Obviously, there are many of you who have it MUCH WORSE than I do ....((( hugs ))) The other day, I was in SO much pain, I decided it was time to check out some online forums dealing with Chronic Pain-----I knew that if I read other peoples' stories and struggles, it would probably help, and it did. ---After reading about PAIN issues I'd never heard of, people who have SO MANY different pain issues at the same time---(wow, how they get through every day is beyond me!!!!) Those who've considered suicide, those who've tried EVERYTHING and are STILL in pain, people who've suffered from one or several surgeries that have failed, people who have to take SOOO many narcotics just to get *SOME* relief , people who weaned themselves off of Narcotics and now regret it, but don't want to go back on for multiple reasons---- but are sooo tired of the constant pain, they don't know WHAT to do, etc..... (I've never been prescribed ANYthing for my pain---- but I admit, the thought of some strong narcotics sounds SOOO good sometimes----but I also realize, mine is mostly arthritis and bursitis, which narctotics wouldn't really help anyway!) After perusing many chronic pain forums----WOW----I learned A LOT !!! I came to an unfortunate, but weirdly HELPFUL conclusion.....my pain may not ever go away, and on days like today where it is MINIMAL, I'm enjoying it sooo much, I can barely stand it !! I'm going to SAVOR it and remember how GREAT today was !!! I'm just gonna deal with it and keep up the Motrin, ice, heat, hot baths, massage, stretches, prayer, laughter, AND I do need to go back to PT again, for sure! And, as we all know, comparing ourselves to others isn't usually a good idea, but honestly----after reading these forums, it really helps me! "well, if THEY can handle that much pain, I can certainly handle mine!" I USED to try that, and it really did NOT work----and my sweet sister said "well, you're not THEM, so don't feel as though you have to "handle it"......etc...... But now that I've read much more about the many, many other types of pain, I really am THANKFUL that mine isn't as bad !!! I also might actually join one of these forums so that i can just VENT on those bad days... Speaking of forums where people really GET what you're going through, do any of you belong to a chronic pain forum? Does it help? I also found an IN-PERSON group in my city---which I'd LOVE to go to----but I just hate that it's far from my house, and only an hour long.....so I'm sticking with online for now |
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Post by scrappintoee on Jan 30, 2016 21:34:51 GMT
I've tried a few different strains & done A LOT more reading about Kratom since I first posted this. I've tried some types that do nothing, but some types give me more energy & a slight mood elevation, but not actual pain RELIEF....but I find that it helps me DEAL with the pain better. Many people on many different forums say that they were tired of the addiction / brain fog /etc. from traditional meds. Kratom has helped their pain enough that they've stopped taking ALL narcotics & other meds ( muscle relaxers, Gapapentin, Lyrica, etc, etc!) their doctors have prescribed for many types of pain. The downfalls for me so far are that it is a bit expensive, compared to my recent prescription for the generic version of Mobic (Meloxicam) (30 pills for a co-pay of only $4.25!) And, as I said....it's not stopping the PAIN (yet  ), but I hope to find the perfect dose / strain. Here's one of MANY good websites I've found :http://www.americankratom.org |
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Jan 30, 2016 21:53:01 GMT
Do you live in a place where cannabis is legal for medical use? The topical creams are very effective if you get them from a high quality manufacturer.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Jan 30, 2016 22:01:03 GMT
Also, I don't know how you can say the ibuprofen is not working if you are not taking the prescribed dose. I like Mobic because it's once a day, but if I don't take it I find that it doesn't work.  |
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Post by tara on Jan 30, 2016 22:15:50 GMT
Where did you get it?
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Post by justmer on Jan 30, 2016 23:06:03 GMT
Sorry you are in so much pain, I have bad back pain due to severe osteoarthritis ,thin bones all
caused from stage three kidney disease, I use Rx. Pain patches on my back and hips,they really
help, have you ever tried any
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Post by scrappintoee on Feb 1, 2016 5:36:42 GMT
Mirabelleswalker....I'm not understanding your comment about Ibuprofen. Three different doctors have told me it's okay to take 800 mg if needed, which I sometimes take once a day (I'm afraid to take it every day, and/or take that dose twice per day, which is why I asked 3 different docs ).... plus, it only helps a TINY bit). I don't live in a state where marijuana is legal, but I've wondered if it helps arthritis! tara...got it from a reputable seller online, after doing much research Since there are so many different strains, and I've only tried 3 different kinds), I found that one did NOTHING, but the other 2 were very nice! . justmer ...Maybe my orthopedist can put me on those @luvspaper....thanks |
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Feb 1, 2016 6:11:20 GMT
Mirabelleswalker....I'm not understanding your comment about Ibuprofen. Three different doctors have told me it's okay to take 800 mg if needed, which I sometimes take once a day (I'm afraid to take it every day, and/or take that dose twice per day, which is why I asked 3 different docs ).... plus, it only helps a TINY bit). I don't live in a state where marijuana is legal, but I've wondered if it helps arthritis! A therapeutic dose of Ibuprofen is 400-800 mgs every 4-6 hours. Taking one every now and then, or taking it just once a day, isn't going to help you. If you are taking it for inflammation, you have to take it over a period of time. |
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Post by scrappintoee on Feb 1, 2016 14:00:21 GMT
mirabelleswalker....thanks for the info I didn't realize it needed to be taken on a regular schedule instead of "as needed" ..wow!
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And believe me, I have been to SO many doctors!!! A few months ago, I even tried a Board Certified Pain Specialist......aside from ALL his other wonderful credentials,
), but I hope to find the perfect dose / strain. 
