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Post by refugeepea on Apr 10, 2016 20:02:05 GMT
-had a manicure or pedicure only 1 manicure when I got married. Never had a pedicure, but I'm not opposed! -worn false eyelashes, eye shadow or liner Not much of a makeup wearer. I've never used make up brushes. -worn lipstick On occasion, I will -owned yoga pants or fitbit Bought yoga pants for the first time ever a few months ago to wear to the gym because I like my legs covered. I don't have a fitbit, but don't consider that a woman thing -used a hair dryer or colored my hair Premature gray runs in my family. I'll likely be totally gray by 40 and I don't want that to happen. I rarely use a hair dryer because my hair is thin. -carried a purse Depending on the occasion, I do. I don't love them though, they serve a purpose. -worn spike heels or higher than a few inches I cannot hear heels! My ankles turn in and I sprain them. -had a spray tan I've embraced my whiteness! I like to think I have amazing porcelain skin like Julianne Moore. I know people who died way too young from melanoma. A tan does not look healthy to me. -played helpless when confronted with a bug in the house Eh, some people have a real fear of them. It doesn't bother me to kill bugs and I've always thought it would be cool to own a tarantula. -worn thong underware nope -worn "shapewear" I'm fat and not opposed to wearing, but haven't bought any -wanted or had children I love my kids but don't love watching other peoples kids -spent more than five minutes deciding what to wear I'm quick to get dressed but have taken longer.
Wanted to add I hate shopping. Even when I was fit and skinny! I prefer t-shirts and jeans. Have no desire to paint my nails. I chip them way too quick! I also never tried to cry my way out of a traffic ticket.
I don't like to decorate my home. I don't care about decorating for the holidays. I don't like to cook. I do like scrapbooking, but do it for me.
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Post by peano on Apr 10, 2016 20:51:58 GMT
Well, this makes my point. Bravo that we all have different ways of looking at the world. Have a great day! You're kind of prickly today. I like it! I'm kind of prickly a lot lately, and I realized today when I was walking that I need to take a look at that.
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Post by Zee on Apr 10, 2016 21:12:42 GMT
You're kind of prickly today. I like it! I'm kind of prickly a lot lately, and I realized today when I was walking that I need to take a look at that. It's ok, we all have our days. And...I like it.
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Post by birukitty on Apr 10, 2016 21:28:44 GMT
Had a mani/pedi? I've had a mani once or twice, no pedis. I'm afraid of getting an infection, so I don't get them. I like my nails bare and natural.
Worn false eyelashes, eye shadow, or liner? I hate liner because I can't do it correctly, and I've never worn false eyelashes. I do like eye shadow and used to wear it a lot, but don't currently. I like wearing makeup but like to keep it looking natural, like me only better. Not a "made up" look.
Worn lipstick? I used to only wear lip balm because my lips are so dry and lipsticks are too drying. Until about 3 years go I discovered a line called, "Lipstick Queen" that is the first lipstick that I could wear because it's made to be moisturizing to your lips. I love it! I've been wearing these lipsticks ever since. I now have 4-5 of them. So, yes. They are as good as lip balm as far as moisture goes, but look like lipstick. My favorite on is "Frog Prince".
Owned Yoga Pants or a Fit Bit? Yes I own Yoga Pants and even wear them outside. I need to for physical therapy-I'm certainly not going to wear jeans there and yoga pants work great for that. I don't own a fit bit-yet. Just bought them last year.
Used a hair dryer or colored my hair. I threw my hair dryer away when my hair turned curly once I hit menopause-it's healthier for my hair not to blow dry it every day, so yes I did own one, but I air dry it now. I've been coloring my hair at home for the past few years since it started going gray. I'm almost 56, but I feel 35. I'm not ready to go gray. Not even close.
Carried a purse-yes, I've been carrying a purse since I was a young teen. It's part of me and it's where I keep everything. My sister doesn't-she's not very feminine (was always a tom boy) and keeps everything in her pockets. But she's also constantly losing things. To me a purse just makes sense. I know where all of my important things are that I need day to day like my driver's license, and all of the cards I carry-those types of things.
Worn spike heels or higher than a few inches-hell no! I don't see the purpose of women torturing their feet to fit some ideal. But, to each their own. I don't love shoes. Some women do. My favorite shoes are Danskos. They are extremely comfortable and give me an extra 2 inches of height plus comfort. At 5 foot 3 inches I like that extra height, but I'm not torturing my feet to get it.
Had a spray tan-Never. Nor have I ever been in a tanning bed. I'm much too focused on my health. I have another sister who is the opposite. I see what tanning has done to her skin. She is younger than me by 18 months, but in her face she looks 10 years older. She's already had 2-3 pre skin cancer cells removed. I embrace my whiteness which is ironic because she used to tease me about it when we were teens, calling me "Casper the Ghost". My legs practically glow in the summer.
Played helpless when confronted with a bug in the house-I've never "played" anything. I'm too honest. I get that from my Dad. As far as bugs are concerned I don't mind them-not even spiders. They're just bugs. Most of the time I either leave them alone, or scoop them up in a tissue and put them outside. I don't like killing them. They have lives too. Now snakes-they are another story. Luckily (knock wood) we've never had a snake in this house or yard. I have a true phobia about snakes. Comes from a childhood experience.
Worn thong underwear? Nope, I don't like that feeling of fabric up the crack of my butt-yuck! Like a wedgie I mean. I don't understand how wearing a thong can be comfortable.
Worn shapewear? No way! Who wants to be squeezed like a sausage in a casing to fit into clothing? Not for me!
Wanted or had children? Yes! Since I was the eldest of 4 I've changed diapers a lot, my little sis and I are 9 years apart. I wanted 4 children of my own, but because of medical issues I was only able to have one. I consider him a huge blessing and am so happy to have him. He's 26 now. And he hates kids. He says I might as well get used to the fact that I'll never have grandkids, but only have grandcats. I don't mind. It's better that he knows this about himself now.
Spent more than 5 minutes deciding what to wear-Yes, especially if it's a special occasion. Usually only then. Most days I'm very quick.
Debbie in MD.
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Post by sues on Apr 10, 2016 21:54:23 GMT
I was hoping this wasn't going to be a thinly veiled excuse to mock other women- but 'play helpless' and 'noncompliant women behaviors' (what in the ever-loving hell?) gave you away, OP. I'm glad the responses didn't get into that nonsense and were just straight answers. It made things interesting.
I'd be surprised if most people didn't answer with 'I like/do some of those things, but not others'. Does that make you 'out of the loop'? If that's how you feel sometimes...then maybe. Does it make you better or worse than other women? Nope.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Apr 10, 2016 21:54:32 GMT
I don't really know what 'most women do'. I can tell you things that I do that tend to be more common for men (largely due to societal expectations).
- I SCUBA dive - I drink Scotch - I lift heavy - there's nothing I won't eat, at least once - I lack modesty - I speak up - I play video games (sometimes obsessively) - I live and breathe math - I dress for comfort - I detest small-talk
I also wear yoga pants and a Fitbit and I get pedicures (not manicures; they only last for a few minutes).
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Post by whipea on Apr 10, 2016 22:42:06 GMT
Thank you for all your responses. The reason I brought this up is I seem to have very little in common with my same gender peers and wonder if my behavior is uncommon. That's all, nothing deep or judgemental.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Apr 10, 2016 23:09:08 GMT
Thank you for all your responses. The reason I brought this up is I seem to have very little in common with my same gender peers and wonder if my behavior is uncommon. That's all, nothing deep or judgemental. If you have nothing in common with your same-gendered peers, I suggest you cast your net a bit wider. Rather than looking at women around you and wondering why you don't enjoy the things that they do, why not just do what you enjoy and find other women who are doing the same thing? Does that make sense? While I tend to gravitate to activities that are male-dominated, I never fail to find other women doing those things too. The ratios may be smaller, but I rarely find myself the lone woman on the weight-room floor or the dive boat deck.
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Post by imsirius on Apr 10, 2016 23:24:36 GMT
Never had a pedi. Mani, once for my wedding. Don't wear lipstick ever, I hate the feeling. I rarely wear make up except when we attend black tie events ( which is 5 times a year) Thongs? No way no how..ew. No spray tan, it's not my thing. Highest heel I can wear is about an inch or two. Again, only for events.
I do carry a purse but nothing fancy. No designer bags that are all the rage. I do use a hair dryer, my hair takes forever to air dry. I have dyed it too. I do have kids. 2 in fact. I don't have yoga pants because I don't do yoga. I do wear casual lounge type pants though.
I also love to play video games and I can scale a rock wall like a cat lol. I play basketball and hockey with the kids and their friends and I also play hockey and volleyball and darts in leagues over the years. I love to camp. In a tent, cooking over a fire. A trailer is nice, but not necessary. I could totally survive in the woods if I was stranded.
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Post by inkedup on Apr 10, 2016 23:24:51 GMT
One thing I don't do that most women, including you, seem to do, is judge myself against others. What I find crazy about this thread are the number of women who feel like they need to justify or apologize for choosing to engage in the activities being discussed here. I didn't start getting regular manicures and pedicures until I was in my 30's. And guess what? I don't know what took me so long. I didn't start getting my hair done regularly until i was in my 30's, and you know what? Also wish I'd have done that sooner. Maybe I need more help now than I did in my youth, but I now invest more time and money in my appearance than I did when I was younger. I like the way I feel when I wear clothing that fits well and my hair and makeup are on point. I don't need to justify that any more than I need to justify the fact that I went to Target in yoga pants and a ball cap this morning. And, for what it's worth, I don't think you need to justify your lack of interest in any of the things you mentioned. This is such a weird thread. I guess you wanted pats on the back for being so alternative and "non-compliant?" Which begs the question, "non-compliant?" It seems like your idea of gender is very rigid if you think failing to get your nails done or wear thongs makes you a "non-compliant female." I think what you really wanted was kudos for being so much smarter and cooler than the dumb women who like makeup
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Post by whipea on Apr 10, 2016 23:29:26 GMT
Thank you for all your responses. The reason I brought this up is I seem to have very little in common with my same gender peers and wonder if my behavior is uncommon. That's all, nothing deep or judgemental. If you have nothing in common with your same-gendered peers, I suggest you cast your net a bit wider. Rather than looking at women around you and wondering why you don't enjoy the things that they do, why not just do what you enjoy and find other women who are doing the same thing? Does that make sense? While I tend to gravitate to activities that are male-dominated, I never fail to find other women doing those things too. The ratios may be smaller, but I rarely find myself the lone woman on the weight-room floor or the dive boat deck. Absolute sense. My interests include Lego, video games and skateboarding. A bit challenging to find women over 60 participating in these activities. So most of my peer exposure comes from my workplace. May be time to broaden my interests.
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Post by berty on Apr 10, 2016 23:33:53 GMT
"hate bugs, I'm not playing helpless. That's kind of condescending."
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Post by Zee on Apr 11, 2016 0:07:17 GMT
Kudos fur being smarter and cooler? I think you're reading a whole lot into this.
some people sure are testy today!
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Post by peano on Apr 11, 2016 0:14:01 GMT
If you have nothing in common with your same-gendered peers, I suggest you cast your net a bit wider. Rather than looking at women around you and wondering why you don't enjoy the things that they do, why not just do what you enjoy and find other women who are doing the same thing? Does that make sense? While I tend to gravitate to activities that are male-dominated, I never fail to find other women doing those things too. The ratios may be smaller, but I rarely find myself the lone woman on the weight-room floor or the dive boat deck. Absolute sense. My interests include Lego, video games and skateboarding. A bit challenging to find women over 60 participating in these activities. So most of my peer exposure comes from my workplace. May be time to broaden my interests. So your additional posts help me understand what you're talking about a little better. My thoughts are that everything you mentioned in the OP except for having children is very surface and superficial, and maybe you need to delve a little deeper or as another Pea said, broaden your social network.
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Post by Drew on Apr 11, 2016 0:30:59 GMT
No manis, no make up, no heels, cash shoved in your pocket...might as well be a man. How's that for judgy?
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Post by whipea on Apr 11, 2016 0:39:14 GMT
No manis, no make up, no heels, cash shoved in your pocket...might as well be a man. How's that for judgy? Touché!
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Post by Dalai Mama on Apr 11, 2016 0:43:19 GMT
If you have nothing in common with your same-gendered peers, I suggest you cast your net a bit wider. Rather than looking at women around you and wondering why you don't enjoy the things that they do, why not just do what you enjoy and find other women who are doing the same thing? Does that make sense? While I tend to gravitate to activities that are male-dominated, I never fail to find other women doing those things too. The ratios may be smaller, but I rarely find myself the lone woman on the weight-room floor or the dive boat deck. Absolute sense. My interests include Lego, video games and skateboarding. A bit challenging to find women over 60 participating in these activities. So most of my peer exposure comes from my workplace. May be time to broaden my interests. I don't know that you need to broaden your interests so much as broaden your network. The internet is a great resource, although, you may be a bit limited by the population of your area. One thing I would suggest is that you might not want to limit yourself to women in your age group.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 11, 2016 4:29:12 GMT
-had a manicure or pedicure - never-worn false eyelashes, eye shadow or liner - never had false eyelashes, but wore an awful lot of eyeliner and eyeshadow as a teenager in the 80's-worn lipstick - used to wear lipstick in my 20's but not any more-owned yoga pants or fitbit - yes I have a Fitbit, never worn yoga pants but do wear similar exercise pants-used a hair dryer or colored my hair - I have coloured my hair for the last 30+years. Used a hair dryer since I stopped getting perms in the 90's-carried a purse - every day-changed a diaper - yes lots-worn spike heels or higher than a few inches - no I've never worn spiky heels or higher than a few inches-had a spray tan - never (but I use a fake tanning cream and have used a solarium back in the 80's)-played helpless when confronted with a bug in the house - never-worn thong underware - yes in my 20's-worn "shapewear" - I bought some to wear to my daughter's debuntante ball - that's the only time I've worn it.-wanted or had children - yes and yes-spent more than five minutes deciding what to wear - yes definitely, especially carrying extra weight, it takes me longer to work out what to wear
I'm curious to know where you put your "stuff" if you don't carry a handbag - where do you put your wallet, mobile phone and keys?
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Post by compwalla on Apr 11, 2016 4:52:44 GMT
I've never worn shapewear because: it's expensive, it looks uncomfortable, I'm not sure I could get it off and I'm lazy. But I might consider it for an upcoming event. It scares me. No fitbit but yes yoga pants. No fake eyelashes for pretty much the same reasons as the shapewear. No playing scared about bugs. Dh is taller so he usually handles crawling things. But I can squash a bug if I can reach it. I'm terrified of flying stinging things so those are all his. But not playing helpless there. Not me. I am happy to rock my spanx. The difference when you wear something fitted is amazing and spanx isn't overly squeezy, just smoothing.
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Post by nlwilkins on Apr 11, 2016 5:14:08 GMT
I do most of the things on the opening list. What is called shapewear could be girdles from days gone by. Let me add some more superficial lady things: I used to wear hats and gloves to church and loved it. Always wore hose and a girdle Dresses are more fun to me than pants, but when I wear pants they are more than likely yoga pants. I shave under my arms and my legs I get my eyebrows waxed every six weeks I get a massage as often as I can I drink using a straw ALWAYs, never ut of cans, it has to be fountain drinks or stuff poured over ice I sew, quilt, knit, crochet and embroidery when sitting I decorate my planner
I am sure there are more, but don't want to go on and on.
OH and the biggie - I LOVE coming here and places like here
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Post by mlynn on Apr 11, 2016 9:04:14 GMT
I do not shop much.
I do not have very many pairs of shoes.
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Post by Scrapbrat on Apr 11, 2016 11:42:59 GMT
With the exception of carrying a person and probably having children, I don't think those are necessarily things that "most women" do at all.
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Post by gracieplusthree on Apr 11, 2016 11:51:53 GMT
-had a manicure or pedicure---nope to both of these, though I do do my toenails myself in the summer, I never wear polish on my fingernails, I do however think a pedicure sounds nice I never have spent the $ on one. -worn false eyelashes, eye shadow or liner--I have played around with eye liner never felt like I was good at it,and I have worn eyeshadow but not in years -worn lipstick----I have in the past, but not in years. I do however keep chapstick close by -owned yoga pants or fitbit---I have some yoga pants, I wear them around the house and sleep in them. -used a hair dryer or colored my hair---I have used a hair dryer, but its been a LONG LONG time, and I have had my hair dyed 3 times, once in a salon, once I did it at home and once my neice did it at home. -carried a purse--used to always carry a purse but haven't in years(except I use an old purse as a camera bag sometimes, but to be in that case its a camera bag not a purse -changed a diaper----I had 3 children and worked 3 years as head of the nursery at a daycare, so yes I've changed lots and lots of diapers lol -worn spike heels or higher than a few inches--nope I hate them. I wore a back brace from age 10-12 and had harrington rods put in at age 12, was told they weren't good for your back so I never had any interest in learning how to walk in them now I have no urge to even try. -had a spray tan---nope. -played helpless when confronted with a bug in the house--helpless is the wrong word, I have had my son kill bugs before but could have and would have done it myself had he not been here -worn thong underware--have, but not in years and years and years -worn "shapewear"--yes under dresses and such at weddings and such to smooth out cellulite and keep the fat jiggle more stable ... and besides, isn't just a bra considered as "shapewear" anyway -wanted or had children--yep had 3 -spent more than five minutes deciding what to wear--yes but not too often, only for big things like being mother of the bride, but even then I wore nice capris and had no make up, and didn't dye my hair, or carry a purse, or wear heels, or wear lipstick, and had no spray tan etc lol
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Post by melanell on Apr 11, 2016 11:56:02 GMT
I've done most of these at one point or another, but don't choose to do many of them right now. Although I have never worn high heels, thong underwear, or false eyelashes. And I've never had a mani/pedi or a spray tan. I currently don't need to change diapers, but I have changed countless ones in my life, between my youngest sibling, dozens of kids I cared for over the years, and then my own kids. The rest I don't do much these days at all. If it's a special event, then yes, I do take more than 5 minutes to choose an outfit, and yes, I may even break out the shapewear and a very small amount of make-up. Pretty much nothing convinces me to touch a hairdryer these days. I don't even know where ours is right now. no one in the family uses it. And I don't bother with a purse. I could deal with bugs in the house, but typically I just call DS #1 because he really likes bringing them outside. But I wear a fitbit everyday.
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Post by grinningcat on Apr 11, 2016 12:03:01 GMT
I don't really understand the point of this post. Everyone does different things. That doesn't make them any more or any less female... it just makes you the person you are. Why sweat this stuff or judge people because they choose to or choose not to do these things?
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Post by raindancer on Apr 11, 2016 12:09:50 GMT
If you have nothing in common with your same-gendered peers, I suggest you cast your net a bit wider. Rather than looking at women around you and wondering why you don't enjoy the things that they do, why not just do what you enjoy and find other women who are doing the same thing? Does that make sense? While I tend to gravitate to activities that are male-dominated, I never fail to find other women doing those things too. The ratios may be smaller, but I rarely find myself the lone woman on the weight-room floor or the dive boat deck. Absolute sense. My interests include Lego, video games and skateboarding. A bit challenging to find women over 60 participating in these activities. So most of my peer exposure comes from my workplace. May be time to broaden my interests. As an adult over the age of 21 why do you need friends to not only share your gender, but also age in which to share time with? I have a very dear friend who is 22, and I just got to see her last week and share lunch and conversation about our common interests. I also have a very close friend who just turned 50. I'm 39.
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Post by raindancer on Apr 11, 2016 12:12:21 GMT
I don't really understand the point of this post. Everyone does different things. That doesn't make them any more or any less female... it just makes you the person you are. Why sweat this stuff or judge people because they choose to or choose not to do these things? I agree and I also think a lot of these things have to do with income, time, location and/or intersest. When I worked at walmart I could barely afford rent food and gas, let alone hair color and cut or a regular mani/pedi. It had little to do with being female and what I like and everything to do with my financial status.
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Post by beanbuddymom on Apr 11, 2016 12:47:23 GMT
I just watched last week's Big Bang Theory last night so I feel like I'm playing "Never have I ever" with my responses, ha ha!
-had a manicure or pedicure - I've had a manicure twice but never a pedicure. -worn false eyelashes, eye shadow or liner - I wear eye shadow and eyeliner all the time but never false eyelashes. -worn lipstick - I have worn lipstick in the past but prefer tinted lip gloss so wear that now instead. -owned yoga pants or fit bit - I own and wear yoga pants but don't own a Fitbit (though my DD does). -had a spray tan - Have never ever done this. -worn thong underwear - Did it maybe a few times in my early 20s but never again since and certainly never in the future! DD wears them I don't know she does it!
I do/have done all of these often or many many times: -used a hair dryer or colored my hair - -carried a purse
-changed a diaper
-worn spike heels or higher than a few inches
-played helpless when confronted with a bug in the house
-worn "shapewear"
-wanted or had children
-spent more than five minutes deciding what to wear
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 11, 2016 13:10:37 GMT
Just wondering because sometimes I feel out of the loop. For example I have never had or any desire to; -had a manicure or pedicure -worn false eyelashes, eye shadow or liner -worn lipstick -owned yoga pants or fitbit -used a hair dryer or colored my hair -carried a purse -changed a diaper -worn spike heels or higher than a few inches -had a spray tan -played helpless when confronted with a bug in the house -worn thong underware -worn "shapewear" -wanted or had children -spent more than five minutes deciding what to wear Does anyone else have noncompliant women behaviors? Let's see, using your list I have NEVER OR NOT: Worn false eyelashes Played helpless at most anything Worn shapewear Had a spray tan Owned/use a fit bit And then... I rarely wear makeup (don't really need to and HATE the process) I don't blow dry my hair (maybe 3x a year or when I do go to get my hair cut!) I don't spend a whole lot of time clothes shopping--if I find something I love, I buy in multiple colors.
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Post by anxiousmom on Apr 11, 2016 13:25:35 GMT
"hate bugs, I'm not playing helpless. That's kind of condescending." I can deal with almost anything. I'm not helpless by a long shot-but when faced with a cockroach that is easily three inches long and flies? I. Just. Can't. I turn into a puddle of quivering mush, screaming like a preteen girl at her first boy band concert. I defy anyone to not get the heebie-jeebies in the face of that grotesque specimen of natural selection. As to not girly stuff-here's one. I don't care if my make up has SPF in it. Honestly, in order to be effective SPF products have to be reapplied at the very least every two hours and if you (the global you) think that putting on a SPF product in the morning and thinking that it is going to be beneficial all day is incorrect. So unless I am going to be outside for any length of time, I skip it. And when I am outside for a while, I go straight to actual sunscreen that can be reapplied.
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