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Post by pjynx on Jul 8, 2016 18:13:56 GMT
Edited to add: OK OK I get it. I won't ask stupid questions. I'll read the school websites to get whatever answers I can first. I planned to do that anyway but figured the more of those questions I left out of my OP, 20+ people would tell me to research those too. ((shrug))
Thank you to those who commented some very good considerations and things to think about that I wouldn't have thought of (health care & insurance, how difficult it is to get classes she wants, avg # of years to graduate). Gives us lots to consider.
Original post: My dd will be a senior this fall. We're starting to do college tours throughout the rest of summer. I know the basic questions we need answered (what majors are offered, costs of tuition and room & board, minimum GPA/ACT/SAT requirements, how far away is it from home). But what other important things should we get answers on when we are visiting and listening to presentations?
Here's what I have so far: 1. % of grads finding job in their field within 1 yr? 2. Is the campus so large that you need transportation from one end to the other? Are shuttles available? Does the area (off-campus) have decent public transportation? 3. Are freshmen who live on campus allowed to have cars? Price for parking? 4. Does campus have an emergency texting service (ie for weather, lock-downs, etc) 5. Police/security presence on campus and general surrounding area? 6. How reliable (and cost) is wi-fi on campus? 7. Availability of on-campus jobs for students? 8. Dining plan options? 9. Do dorms have A/C? Can you bring fridge/microwave/etc? 10. Availability (and cost) of off-campus housing? 11. Is the university and general population of students accepting of diversity?
What else? When I went to college, I commuted so I didn't have to think about dorm life or even much of campus events/offerings other than my classes. So this is all new to me.
Pam
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Post by Blind Squirrel on Jul 8, 2016 18:16:59 GMT
DS will be starting his second year. One of the topics that his college brought up quite frequently was their support system for freshmen. As a parent, that was very refreshing to hear.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 8, 2016 18:24:37 GMT
On our preliminary tours, we met with an admissions counselor. They were not able to answer questions like meal plan costs or what you can have in a dorm, but all that was on each college's website. For the most part, I used current info from the year, but it gave us a good starting point to understand costs. For the most part, your questions are good. I'd probably look at their website for some of the questions (like A/C in dorms--on DS's campus, some dorms have it, others don't. But that info is online.)
One thing that struck me was what the counselor said if he or she didn't know the answer. Did they look it up online then and there? Did they tell you where to find the info? Did they shrug it off? To me, that gave an idea of the atmosphere of the school and how willing they were to help if help was needed.
When DS started narrowing down his schools, the second meeting was almost more important. That's when we were talking real numbers and costs. Even then, the estimate was off because DS ended up taking more credits his freshman year. But each school had a budget sheet and the line items were accurate (for us.) DS was an out of state student and we also asked a lot of questions about on campus health care, availability of appointments, nearby ERs, pharmacy's etc. DS ended up getting sick last March and was coughing up blood. He was seen immediately as a walk in, his script was sent to a pharmacy that delivered to his dorm, the clinic nurse gave him Uber and taxi info if he needed the ER after hours, and I found a grocery delivery that delivered kleenex and popsicles. I was really grateful for all of the help and was glad we had asked ahead of time.
We attended the parent orientation over the summer and the school spent a lot of time telling us the resources they had to help out students--from health, exercise, mental health, job placement, escort services, emergency services, etc. We were also given a pretty detailed list of numbers. Another thing that really helped was they guided us in how to help our students--as in, here are the resources, have your student call. I found that helpful for what they expected the students to take care of themselves. And it's nice for me to know the resources because I could then say, "your dorm fees are off. Go see XXX and get it taken care of."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 18:38:36 GMT
Food. Ask about the food service.
Availability is important. And freshness. The last two weeks at my daughter's school, they were served rubbish.
What happens during thanksgiving is a good question.
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Post by littlemama on Jul 8, 2016 18:51:46 GMT
Most of that information should be available on the school's website. I had DS go on each college's website, take notes and then we developed further questions from there.
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 8, 2016 19:10:53 GMT
We did quite a few college tours last summer and our main goal was to see the campus and get a feel of how easy it is to move around both on campus and into the city (is the campus isolated or in an urban area?). Many of your questions will be answered on the school's website. Go through them and get the answers you can now so that you can fill in the blanks when at the information session that usually is the first step of a tour. If anything is still unanswered at that point, go ahead and ask . Security is definitely something that didn't really come up until we were on campus. What hours (if any) are dorm doors unlocked, who do you contact if you find yourself locked out, how to get replacement keys, etc. Security escorts after dark and blue light security system on campus are a couple of other things that came up on our tours.
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Post by omarakbt on Jul 8, 2016 19:15:56 GMT
Can they get the classes they need? And can they realistically graduate in four years Some campuses are do impacted that freshman in particular cannot get classes they need and certain majors are so impacted that getting the classes makes it difficult to graduate in four years
Diane
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Post by MerryMom on Jul 8, 2016 19:20:33 GMT
Some of those questions (like meal plans, what is allowed in a dorm room, etc.) are probably already on the website.
Some of the other questions such as how accepting are the students or faculty of diversity, I don't know that you are going to get any other answer other than "Absolutely we are" from the admissions counselor or one of the students who does the tours. Some of those your daughter will have to figure out by asking other students currently there.
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Post by supersoda on Jul 8, 2016 20:04:26 GMT
What percentage receives merit aid?
You can probably find this information online and it is more important than the sticker price at private schools. We found very similar sticker prices across the board, but many of the schools DD looked at cut their tuition in half (or more) with merit aid. And that was the norm, not the exception. No one is paying sticker price at the schools we looked at, but you don't know that until you do some digging. (We looked primarily at small, private liberal arts colleges.)
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Post by annaintx on Jul 8, 2016 20:51:50 GMT
Ask about professors and adjunct faculty. What percentage of the classes are taught by adjuncts? (I have been an adjunct faculty before, I do have my PhD.) At the university where I work now (as staff), my department has a hard time finding people to teach even upper division classes. Ask about class sizes, too. What support do they have academically for students who may need it? This may be a better question for a specific department rather than just "on a tour". If your DD knows what she wants to get her major in, you can ask specific things about that department. Are there opportunities for internships, or student research? (Depending upon her field, of course.)
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jul 8, 2016 21:27:58 GMT
I wouldn't be visiting colleges that don't offer the major I am interested in so I would start by researching the schools and narrow it down based on who offers what you want.
Depending on what your DD is looking for I would try to visit a large state university, a smaller rural school, and a school with an urban campus and if you are able financially a private school. That will give Idea of the type of school that appeals to your dd.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 8, 2016 21:37:18 GMT
My son checked out a few colleges and my husband went with him. I am sure they didn't ask many questions.
The one thing I might recommend is that if there is a job fair (for whatever college he chooses), your son should go to it. My son went about 2 weeks into his freshman semester just to see what it was all about. He had a resume (from high school) and he talked to all of the places in his field. He also got a lot of free junk (his passion) and got some experience talking to recruiters. He actually got a call from one of the local engineering firms who asked him to come in for a two week interview project. Each year they hire one freshman as an intern and keep them for four years (part time school year/full time summers). He is learning a lot with on the job training at this firm. In the end, this experience could set him apart from other engineers who are also graduating.
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Post by peabay on Jul 8, 2016 22:03:54 GMT
You'll drive everyone on the tour crazy if you ask things that can be found on the website. Here's why: they want to hear what the kid giving the tour has to say. They want to get a feel for the school, assess its personality, judge its fit for their kid. You will find that as you go on these tours, the parents actually don't ask a lot of prepared questions. Most kids are horrified when their parents ask, and most can be answered on the website. I would look up the answers to the ones you have and then let questions come up organically as you tour. For instance, a tour guide may be from halfway across the country. A question like: "why did you choose to come all the way here to college" will yield an interesting answer.
Have a great time! I loved touring schools with my girls. It's a real bonding experience. I'm sad I only have one kid left to take to visit colleges.
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Post by tuva42 on Jul 8, 2016 22:58:22 GMT
What percentage of the student population lives on campus? Is it a "suitcase" college?
What are the growth plans for the univeristy. My DD is starting at Butler in August. The school decided this year to admit 1,250 freshman, though it says on their website that the normal freshman class is around 900 students. So guess what? Students are being asked to volunteer to triple up dorm rooms designed for just 2 students. And classes have filled up very fast, parking passes are hard to get. Had DD known all this she might, just might, have made a different choice.
Is your child interested in studying abroad for a semester? What is the program like? Some study abroad programs will slow down a students progress so that they might need to go to a summer semester or take an extra semester to graduate.
What sort of program do they have for students who don't know what they want to major in? Are they just undecided or is there a program in place to help them find out not only what they want to major in, but what career they'd like to have.
Good luck!
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Post by maryland on Jul 8, 2016 23:28:30 GMT
With my daughter, she wanted to know what social activities they had on campus and how to get tickets to the football/basketball games (our basketball team was ranked top 5 preseason). My husband and I were mainly interested in the tuition payment information and meal plan (which is important to every college student!). We had no worries with our daughter studying/adjustingas she is a great kid that works hard and is the type that can adjust to any situation! Also, I went to that university and every summer when we visit my parents the kids and I spend all day touring the campus. So it was very familiar to her. As the others said, many answers can be found on the website or by attending Visit Days and Accepted Student Days. They had panels of students to answer questions and that was very helpful!
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Post by Sandie on Jul 8, 2016 23:39:24 GMT
Ask about Student Health Insurance. Many colleges in many states require that a student must be insured and it is charged through tuition cost and fees. If your child is covered on your ins plan, you may be able opt out of the school insurance and save a ton of money. There is usually a form to fill out showing Proof of Insurance. This was not well known at DD's college and we paid $800 her freshman year for insurance. There was a small two line blurb regarding exemption on the webpage for the student health clinic and no where else. The following year, I spent 2 minutes filling out the form and exempted her from the school run plan and saved a ton of money over the next three years.
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Post by maryland on Jul 9, 2016 0:57:24 GMT
Ask about Student Health Insurance. Many colleges in many states require that a student must be insured and it is charged through tuition cost and fees. If your child is covered on your ins plan, you may be able opt out of the school insurance and save a ton of money. There is usually a form to fill out showing Proof of Insurance. This was not well known at DD's college and we paid $800 her freshman year for insurance. There was a small two line blurb regarding exemption on the webpage for the student health clinic and no where else. The following year, I spent 2 minutes filling out the form and exempted her from the school run plan and saved a ton of money over the next three years. Thank you thank you thank you! At my daughter's university, they have to fill our a health insurance waiver before July 15th to avoid having to pay for insurance through the university. We did it at freshman orientation last year. She told me a few days ago to remind her to do it. I didn't know they had to do it each year. Well, I forgot about it until I read your post. So thank you for bringing this up and it reminded me to do that!
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Post by peano on Jul 9, 2016 1:10:35 GMT
Even though DS will only be a junior this upcoming school year, we toured UConn this summer. I think it was really worthwhile in getting DS started thinking about college and making it more of a reality, but I do wonder if summer tours offer enough info to see what the school is really like, rather than when school is in session. Anyone want to weigh in?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 1:21:32 GMT
Even though DS will only be a junior this upcoming school year, we toured UConn this summer. I think it was really worthwhile in getting DS started thinking about college and making it more of a reality, but I do wonder if summer tours offer enough info to see what the school is really like, rather than when school is in session. Anyone want to weigh in? Our summer tours get the same tour as the "school year" tour. If anything the summer tours are more apt to have access to labs and building interiors during the summer where they can't go because it would disrupt classes during the spring/fall. Tours during the year might see a few more students walking through the student center or going across campus but IMO, it isn't really enough difference to take the time off from his hs to go unless the fashion sense of other students is important to him.
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Post by mom on Jul 9, 2016 1:22:04 GMT
My son checked out a few colleges and my husband went with him. I am sure they didn't ask many questions. The one thing I might recommend is that if there is a job fair (for whatever college he chooses), your son should go to it. My son went about 2 weeks into his freshman semester just to see what it was all about. He had a resume (from high school) and he talked to all of the places in his field. He also got a lot of free junk (his passion) and got some experience talking to recruiters. He actually got a call from one of the local engineering firms who asked him to come in for a two week interview project. Each year they hire one freshman as an intern and keep them for four years (part time school year/full time summers). He is learning a lot with on the job training at this firm. In the end, this experience could set him apart from other engineers who are also graduating. Wow. I have a senior and we've been visiting colleges and now I feel like I've fail as his mom. LOL We didn't have too many questions at all!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 1:37:58 GMT
My dd will be a senior this fall. We're starting to do college tours throughout the rest of summer. I know the basic questions we need answered (what majors are offered, costs of tuition and room & board, minimum GPA/ACT/SAT requirements, how far away is it from home). But what other important things should we get answers on when we are visiting and listening to presentations?
Here's what I have so far: 1. % of grads finding job in their field within 1 yr? 2. Is the campus so large that you need transportation from one end to the other? Are shuttles available? Does the area (off-campus) have decent public transportation? 3. Are freshmen who live on campus allowed to have cars? Price for parking? 4. Does campus have an emergency texting service (ie for weather, lock-downs, etc) 5. Police/security presence on campus and general surrounding area? 6. How reliable (and cost) is wi-fi on campus? 7. Availability of on-campus jobs for students? 8. Dining plan options? 9. Do dorms have A/C? Can you bring fridge/microwave/etc? 10. Availability (and cost) of off-campus housing? 11. Is the university and general population of students accepting of diversity?
What else? When I went to college, I commuted so I didn't have to think about dorm life or even much of campus events/offerings other than my classes. So this is all new to me.
Pam
The majority of these questions should be answered on the schools website. Before you go on the tour read the website thoroughly. Request materials from housing and admissions. Read it. Then with that knowledge under your belt start compiling your list of questions that weren't answered in other venues. Yes, you will be judged for asking questions that were much more easily answered before you arrive by simply reading. Someone will wonder if your student has learned to do the most basic reading and research. Listen to the tour guide, others that address the tour, and take notes if you need. Then you can ask thoughtful informed questions and not just a grocery list of items fired off. If the school's website is scanty with little information and they don't provide printed materials ask yourself if that school is capable of preparing a student for the future! Be aware the school may not have good/accurate info on OFF campus issues such as housing availability. That is a city issue so research about housing in the greater city.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 9, 2016 1:41:15 GMT
Even though DS will only be a junior this upcoming school year, we toured UConn this summer. I think it was really worthwhile in getting DS started thinking about college and making it more of a reality, but I do wonder if summer tours offer enough info to see what the school is really like, rather than when school is in session. Anyone want to weigh in? I agree that tours between the sophomore and junior year can be very helpful. It really lit a fire under DS for his senior year. He buckled down and ended up graduating Magna cum laude and retook the ACT twice trying to get a perfect score. He didn't get a 36, but he did end up with the highest level of merit aid. As as for touring in the summer, I agree with Volt. A summer tour allows you to go all over the campus and really see the campus. We were also able to talk to several professors at length. DS choose his school based on summer tours and then locked in his decision with a trip after Christmas. The school flew him in for a weekend for a visit. He also interviewed for a scholarship and met with the Dean of Engineering again. It also gave DS an idea of what it would be like to go to school so far away, as he had to fly there and take a taxi to school and navigate it all on his own.
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Post by supersoda on Jul 9, 2016 1:44:48 GMT
Even though DS will only be a junior this upcoming school year, we toured UConn this summer. I think it was really worthwhile in getting DS started thinking about college and making it more of a reality, but I do wonder if summer tours offer enough info to see what the school is really like, rather than when school is in session. Anyone want to weigh in? I think the real difference is the tour days vs. official visit days. Most campuses will offer tours at least once a week, but they will have formal visit days (or weekends) every quarter or so. We scoped out several schools via tours, but went to the visit days for the ones we were most interested in for a more thorough overview. The school DD is attending we actually visited twice. The first time we did a Saturday tour-only visit. We really liked the campus and thought it was a good fit, so we signed up for their official visit day, with an overnight visit, a few months later.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 1:51:39 GMT
Some of those questions (like meal plans, what is allowed in a dorm room, etc.) are probably already on the website. Some of the other questions such as how accepting are the students or faculty of diversity, I don't know that you are going to get any other answer other than "Absolutely we are" from the admissions counselor or one of the students who does the tours. Some of those your daughter will have to figure out by asking other students currently there. Also look for indicators on the school website for an office of diversity or an office of inclusion. Does their website list student organizations related to a variety of issues and interests? How in tune are those organizations to your student's interests in diversity? Check the campus calendar for the past year to see what was active.
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Post by littlemama on Jul 9, 2016 1:58:36 GMT
The one question we asked the tour guide was what type of dorm room did they live in as a freshman and what did they think of that room type. (Asked while we were walking between buildings, not while the tour guide was talking about anything else.) The school that ds is going to has several different types of dorm rooms for freshmen so we were able to make a more informed decision about the room type to apply for (and we found out thks week that he got his first choice!)
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 9, 2016 2:14:51 GMT
My son checked out a few colleges and my husband went with him. I am sure they didn't ask many questions. The one thing I might recommend is that if there is a job fair (for whatever college he chooses), your son should go to it. My son went about 2 weeks into his freshman semester just to see what it was all about. He had a resume (from high school) and he talked to all of the places in his field. He also got a lot of free junk (his passion) and got some experience talking to recruiters. He actually got a call from one of the local engineering firms who asked him to come in for a two week interview project. Each year they hire one freshman as an intern and keep them for four years (part time school year/full time summers). He is learning a lot with on the job training at this firm. In the end, this experience could set him apart from other engineers who are also graduating. Wow. I have a senior and we've been visiting colleges and now I feel like I've fail as his mom. LOL We didn't have too many questions at all! Nope, you don't get to fail. Part of the "fun" of raising kids to adults is that they have to figure some things out. I am a planner; I have planned my whole life. Kids have to learn how to do that do. My question was really how much does it cost. Beyond that, my son found out everything. He researches classes and books and gives me the bill. If I'm paying, he can do the legwork.
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Post by mama2three on Jul 9, 2016 2:34:01 GMT
Why did they choose to go to this university and are they happy with their decision? What's the best or worst thing ?
We've visted a lot of schools in the past year. I agree, look up as much as you can on the website before you go. Really, when you first start looking, just getting a feel for the school and asking your child, " can you see yourself living here for 4 years" will tell you a lot. Every school is different. The advice to visit a variety of colleges and universities is right on if you're just starting out and not sure what your child prefers. A Big university where you're in large lecture hall classes vs a small college where you might have only 12 in a class and know the professors by first names and maybe even get to know their families are very different experiences. Urban campus vs rural small college? What does your child like? How far away does he want to be? These are questions to consider yourself.
You'll want to find out either on the website or by asking: What percentage of students graduate in 4 years? How difficult is it to get into courses you need to graduate in 4 years?
What is it like on campus over the weekend? (Do most people stay or is it a suitcase campus ?). If your child is far from home it would stink to have the whole school empty out every Friday.
If your child likes to play sports but isn't likely to be on a sports scholarship or to make the varsity team, ask about whether there are intramural sports programs they can participate in.
Ask about travel abroad opportunities and what is needed to qualify. One school we looked at not only paid the fee for freshmen to get a passport, they also sent all honors students for a semester abroad at an affiliated school at no extra cost beyond their usual tuition. At another school, international relations seemed to be the major focus, and travel abroad was so heavily pushed that it seemed nearly everyone traveled a lot (except for some majors whose course load couldn't be accommodated in the overseas programs.). When we got a tour guide alone, she admitted that if you're not someone with the finances to travel a lot and have to stay on the domestic campus all the time, you feel like a second class citizen.
For the major of interest, what do their graduates do? How likely are they to get jobs or into grad school after graduation?
Have fun looking at schools. It can be stressful, but it's fun seeing all the different campuses.
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Post by scrapnatya on Jul 9, 2016 5:18:18 GMT
The site called College Confidential also has great info about college shopping. You can also find threads on more well known colleges which they list alphabetically.
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Post by Flowergirl on Jul 9, 2016 5:53:41 GMT
DD will be a senior this year. We've toured about 6 schools over the last year and are looking at several more over the summer including a second visit to her first choice school for a program specific tour/meeting with an admissions rep from the department.
Aside from the good advice above, one thing we've done at every school we've toured is read the posts on YikYak when we're there. If you're not familiar with it, the app is huge on college campuses. (People post anonymously, posts are up-voted or down voted or commented on by other users within the geofenced area). This works better when school is in session because the app is more active. It gives a great feel for the tenor of the school and we've learned about campus-wide issues a couple schools were having that of course aren't mentioned on the tours. While we're there, DD will post that she's touring the school/the program she's looking at and should she pick that school. The answers have been interesting, amusing and even informative.
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Post by Memo on Jul 9, 2016 7:26:32 GMT
The only reason we do tours is to get the "feel" of the campus. 99% of our questions can be answered on the university's website. But there is no way to get the feel without visiting. So important! We will actually be visiting 3 campuses out east this week, and I plan to ask zero questions. LOL! It's all about how my daughter feels when she is there and what we think of the campus and area atmosphere. My oldest daughter did the same thing and it's worked out wonderfully for her. I totally agree with this. My son and I have done extensive research on-line for schools that he's interested in. We were just in San Diego on vacation and we stopped at both the University of San Diego and San Diego State. We got to walk both campuses on our own, just to get the feel. Based on their websites, they both look great, but we liked the "feel" of SDSU a lot more than USD. Good luck on your search!
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