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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 17:51:01 GMT
There are lots of things that I wouldn't let a man do that Hillary seems just fine with.
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Post by nurseypants on Jul 29, 2016 18:00:41 GMT
There are lots of things that I wouldn't let a man do that Hillary seems just fine with. Not really the issue. Of course, you already knew that.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 29, 2016 18:02:44 GMT
I'm just going to put this here rather than start another thread about Trump, but here's another example of how low of a bar he holds himself to. Trump and Obama were asked the same question in Reddit AMAs (Obama in 2012 and Trump earlier this week). Compare their answers. View AttachmentNeither Trump nor his supporters seem to expect any intellectual rigor from him at all. Imagine what his responses would be like if he couldn't deflect and attack Hillary at every turn and actually had to give a reasonable answer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 18:04:04 GMT
When one talks about lies let's not forget the ones told by Bush/Cheney about WMD that dragged us into a war that this country and the residents of Iraq are still paying a high price for. And when it became clear all was not as Bush/Cheney said and Iraq was a mistake what did the very same people who are harping about Hillary on trust issues do? They elected Bush president again. So I guess you can say he got a pass by the very same people who are now ridiculing anyone they see giving Hillary a pass for the lies she may or may not have told. I guess Jon Stewart was right when he says it's ok when your guy does it but not ok when the other guy does. But you know what? I'm ok giving Hillary a pass about the lies she may have or have not told when compared to the lives lost because of the lies told by Bush/Cheney about WMD.
I was watching CBS This Morning and they had on the lady who is known as a presidential historian. And I can't remember her name.
Anyway I was half listening to the interview but caught this little snippet. When asked about Hillary's "trust" issues she felt the attribute of "temperament" was more important than likability and even trust of a potential candidate for president.
And I agree with her. But I don't have trust issues with Hillary either. But compare her temperament to Trump's.
Also look at the number of issues she has worked on since her college days. Long before she became a "1%er". Yet she is ridiculed as someone with money and that being the case how can she possibility understand how the others live. I mean after all she wore a $1,200 jacket to an event. That's proof she doesn't understand and she is just giving lip service to get elected as president. But yet her history of working on issues long before she became even First Lady of Arkansas tells a different story.
Then you have to ask yourself what has Trump the businessman done for this country? There are plenty of businessmen who are as Trump puts it " really really rich" who do something to give back to the country. He talks about all these donations he has given to charities but yet on closer inspection we find maybe not so much. But he does leave a trail of stiffing people who work for him or did work for him.
So here you have Hillary who has a history of working on issues to help children, folks with disabilities, women's rights, human rights, and healthcare.
And you have Trump who only wants to help himself because he has never displayed any inclination to help anybody but himself. And he had the means and platform to do so and didn't.
I looked up the definition of temperament. "The combination of mental, physical, and emotional traits of a person; natural predisposition".
When you elect a president you are electing someone who you feel can help you/country. When you elect a president you have no idea how they will do so you have to look at their history and what they have done to make you think they can help you/country. A "natural predisposition" so to speak. So compare what Hillary has done to help others from her college days to what Trump has done since his college days to help others.
Trump's history shows us it's not in his "natural predisposition" to help anybody but himself. So how can he be "trusted" to change his "natural predisposition" to help others as he is saying he will do?
I don't have to like or even trust Hillary to think she will do a good job. All I have to do is look at her history of working on issues to help people. Or her "natural predisposition" to do so which is a big part of her temperamental makeup.
Plus the fact , as President Obama pointed out, she will be the most qualified person to enter the The Oval Office the first time since who knows how far back. For sure she is more qualified then the last three presidents. Again I don't have to like her or even trust her to acknowledge how qualified she is for the job.
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Post by nurseypants on Jul 29, 2016 18:06:39 GMT
I'm just going to put this here rather than start another thread about Trump, but here's another example of how low of a bar he holds himself to. Trump and Obama were asked the same question in Reddit AMAs (Obama in 2012 and Trump earlier this week). Compare their answers. Neither Trump nor his supporters seem to expect any intellectual rigor from him at all. Imagine what his responses would be like if he couldn't deflect and attack Hillary at every turn and actually had to give a reasonable answer. Imagine what so many Peas' response would be.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 29, 2016 18:07:52 GMT
There are lots of things that I wouldn't let a man do that Hillary seems just fine with. Isn't trump guilty of doing the same things? Or worse? I don't condone the behavior that either of them have engaged in, but if you are going to bring up Hillary Clinton's husbands sexual behavior, you need to acknowledge that DT has the same type of history--and he is the actual candidate.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 18:09:24 GMT
There are lots of things that I wouldn't let a man do that Hillary seems just fine with. Not really the issue. Of course, you already knew that. It's an issue to me.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 29, 2016 18:59:59 GMT
In my humble opinion, I am sure Russia has already hacked anything and everything they want. FBI Director James Comey even admitted during the hearings that Russia has very sophisticated ways of getting in and out of U.S.computers and nobody would ever know. jamh ...and meanwhile, China quietly sits on the side lines laughing at all the hoopla surround possible hacks by Russia as the plan their next cyber intrusions in infrastructure and other intelligence systems.
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Post by raindancer on Jul 29, 2016 19:53:19 GMT
There are lots of things that I wouldn't let a man do that Hillary seems just fine with. Not really the issue. Of course, you already knew that. Not to mention the fact that until you are the person in the marriage in the moment you actually have no idea what you will do.
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Post by tracylynn on Jul 29, 2016 20:39:21 GMT
Not really the issue. Of course, you already knew that. It's an issue to me. You're not married to him. When you are, then it can be an issue for you. A lot of women "stand by their man". Why is it OK to judge her for that?
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Post by StephDRebel on Jul 29, 2016 22:21:52 GMT
Not really the issue. Of course, you already knew that. It's an issue to me. Can I ask why? This is something I just don't understand and would like to hear view points on.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 29, 2016 23:51:43 GMT
Daily ShowAs Trevor Noah has said (among others, I am sure), it is difficult to believe there is even a contest. EXCELLENT!!
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Post by lucyg on Jul 29, 2016 23:58:28 GMT
Not really the issue. Of course, you already knew that. It's an issue to me. I don't get this. It's an issue to you that Hillary Clinton didn't kick her husband to the curb for cheating on her? But you don't have a problem with Donald Trump's very similar history with women? If I'm misunderstanding and you're not actually voting for Trump, my apologies.
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Post by ntsf on Jul 30, 2016 0:32:55 GMT
trump showed his thin skin and temper when chris matthews interviewed him about his views on abortion this week.. trump wouldn't answer questions and started attacking chris and questioning his religion and his opinions...not cool. trump finally admitted he thought women should be punished for having an abortion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 1:42:01 GMT
Eh, campaigns are a funny thing. You can't let anything go or it could bite you in the butt. Look at all the pundits who claim Romney lost because he played by gentleman's rules. Responding to a tweet in this situation doesn't make my radar.
The trick is that you have to then lead differently than you campaign, because that takes a different set of skills. That's where America always takes a risk on every candidate, frankly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 1:46:51 GMT
There are three men who came back from Benghazi with a different experience in working with her. I can't dismiss that.
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Post by katybee on Jul 30, 2016 2:13:30 GMT
FYI: when somebody asks Donald Trump a question about his foreign-policy, and he answers "Yeah… We're looking into that…" and quickly moves on to the next question… It means he has no FREAKING clue. See how often he answers "Yeah...We're looking in to that..." And tell me you're not just a little bit concerned.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 30, 2016 2:22:50 GMT
He just told Colorado Republicans that he supports fracking, but that communities should be able to ban it if they want.
I'm interested in how the republicans are going to spin that because in this area the repubs are very pro oil and gas and fracking.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 2:23:43 GMT
FYI: when somebody asks Donald Trump a question about his foreign-policy, and he answers "Yeah… We're looking into that…" and quickly moves on to the next question… It means he has no FREAKING clue. See how often he answers "Yeah...We're looking in to that..." And tell me you're not just a little bit concerned. Good lord....the dumbshit didn't even know where Tim Kaine was from....he confused him with Tom Kean from New Jersey.......where are his "people" that are suppose to stop him from looking like a idiot?
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Post by berty on Jul 30, 2016 2:28:28 GMT
I am more worried about a woman who would use an unsecured personal server that contained top secret emails about national security (for motives that have yet to be fully revealed, 33,000 deleted/destroyed emails) and then lies about it over and over again to the American people. This alone would disqualify Donald Trump from the Presidency if he had done the same thing, but many Americans have a much lower bar for Hillary Clinton. They are used to making excuses and looking the other way for the Clinton's - it's become it's own art form.A lower bar? A pass for Trump? Trump has said things over and over again that would have destroyed any other candidate's chance of winning the nomination. When he put down women, that should have killed his chances. Nope. When he put down Mexicans, that should have killed them. Nope again. When he mocked a disabled man, that should have killed them. Nope. When he called for a national registry of Muslims? Nope. When he put down a frickin' former POW? Nope. When he did that and got away with it, I knew that he was correct when he said that he could shoot someone outside on the street and not lose a single vote. This man can do whatever he wants and get away with it. He calls for the Russians (jokingly or not, doesn't really matter) to hack our servers - there was a bit of a discussion, but again...I don't think he's lost any votes on it. As a wife (who happens to be a woman) of an immigrant who teaches at a school that is 95% Mexican and filled with many LGBTQ teachers and students and the mother of two children with disabilities, there aren't many things left that Trump could say to offend me that he hasn't already said. And yet, each day he finds a new way to make me scratch my head and wonder why ANYONE would want to associate with this man for any reason - political, business or personal. And yet people still do. SaveA thousand times yes! I honestly am dumbfounded that people back him. I don't understand how people can reward such hate and nastiness. Regardless of how I feel about his opponent, I could never with a clear conscience vote for him.
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Post by BeckyTech on Jul 30, 2016 2:48:37 GMT
Good lord....the dumbshit didn't even know where Tim Kaine was from And Obama said there were 57 states.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 30, 2016 2:48:55 GMT
There are three men who came back from Benghazi with a different experience in working with her. I can't dismiss that. Whet about all of the people who have had good experiences? Just last night a local friend posted her story on Facebook...she and some others from our town were in the process of adopting kids from Haiti when the earthquake happened there. After the earthquake, adoptions were put on hold and they were panicking, trying to get the kids out of there. They contacted a local politician, who then contacted Hillary, who helped to expedite the process. This is just one example, but surely there are many, many more like it. What happened in Benghazi was horrible, but like others have said on this topic is relevant. There have been mistakes made in politics throughout history. I personally hold the terrorist responsible for what happened, not Hillary. Could something have been done differently? Yes. Hindsight is 20/20. But I don't think that one situation should define someone's whole life and career.
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Post by BeckyTech on Jul 30, 2016 2:49:34 GMT
For me, the question would be:
Would you let a woman who doesn't qualify for a security clearance ...
be your president?
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Post by elaine on Jul 30, 2016 2:59:01 GMT
For me, the question would be:
Would you let a woman who doesn't qualify for a security clearance ...
be your president? She has a security clearance, even though Republicans are trying to suspend it. It is Donald Trump who doesn't hold a security clearance, and who we don't know whether he would qualify, especially since he won't release his tax returns. So, would you let a man who may very well not qualify for a security clearance be your president?
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Post by lucyg on Jul 30, 2016 4:46:12 GMT
Good lord....the dumbshit didn't even know where Tim Kaine was from And Obama said there were 57 states. And has been explained probably 57 times: (from snopes.com, but I'm sure all the other fact checkers have the same info) On the other hand, Donald Trump's only excuse is that he IS a dumbshit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 5:57:40 GMT
There are three men who came back from Benghazi with a different experience in working with her. I can't dismiss that. Whet about all of the people who have had good experiences? Just last night a local friend posted her story on Facebook...she and some others from our town were in the process of adopting kids from Haiti when the earthquake happened there. After the earthquake, adoptions were put on hold and they were panicking, trying to get the kids out of there. They contacted a local politician, who then contacted Hillary, who helped to expedite the process. This is just one example, but surely there are many, many more like it. What happened in Benghazi was horrible, but like others have said on this topic is relevant. There have been mistakes made in politics throughout history. I personally hold the terrorist responsible for what happened, not Hillary. Could something have been done differently? Yes. Hindsight is 20/20. But I don't think that one situation should define someone's whole life and career. Those men would disagree with you. "It's about leaving Americans behind. It's about Hillary Clinton wants to become Commander in Chief and as Commander in Chief you have a responsibility to help Americans when they're overseas and she did not. And now she wants to be put in charge of the greatest military in the world? " "I'm tired of having people defend that. Hillary Clinton. Because she left us. Bottom line, she left us. I served over seas under George Bush. He never left me behind. Not one time." Kris Paronto (one of the guys who survived Benghazi)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 6:17:37 GMT
Or, he was weary and said the wrong name. Kinda like I sometimes call my brother by my husband's name and vice versa. I know the difference. Sometimes my tongue doesn't.
There are far more legitimate things to hammer Donald Trump on than that. That makes people look petty, IMO.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 30, 2016 7:20:05 GMT
Or, he was weary and said the wrong name. Kinda like I sometimes call my brother by my husband's name and vice versa. I know the difference. Sometimes my tongue doesn't. There are far more legitimate things to hammer Donald Trump on than that. That makes people look petty, IMO. Perhaps. But late at night, it's quite satisfying, all the same.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jul 30, 2016 8:01:28 GMT
Would I let man I could bait with a tweet press my buttons?
No, I wouldn't let him get under my skin like that.
Can't say the same is true for Hillary, though. He's living rent-free in her head these days.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 30, 2016 9:57:56 GMT
For me, the question would be:
Would you let a woman who doesn't qualify for a security clearance ...
be your president? Who said she didn't qualify? That's an opinion, not a fact. She is about to begin getting intelligence briefings.
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