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Post by peano on Aug 1, 2016 0:58:31 GMT
Not registered with either party. Have always liked Hillary and in no way do I see her the lesser of two evils. She has a lifetime of public service and an incredible amount of experience.
I would rather vote for a person picked randomly off the street than Trump, who is a despicable worm.
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Post by deputydog on Aug 1, 2016 1:15:19 GMT
I voted for Bernie in the primary and will vote for Hillary this November. I really, really, really wanted Bernie but I'm very comfortable voting for Hillary.
I understand the whole 'vote your conscience' thing when considering third parties, but it can be problematic. Sometimes voting your conscience can lead to harm of the country as a whole. Sometimes it doesn't- not every election is like the one we're having this year. When the stakes are as high as they are right now I believe we need to put aside our personal stuff and do what's best for the country as a whole.
Right now I'm voting for Hillary because I believe for me, personally, she's the right candidate. But I didn't feel that way at first- Bernie really represented my ideals in a way that she hadn't. After California I had to begin to decide what I was going to do. First I was going to vote for Jill Stein. Then I was going to write in Bernie. Then I wasn't going to vote at all-- I was so mad about everything. But when I looked at the big picture I knew I would be hurting not just myself, but my son and any other vulnerable group if Trump became President. So I resolved to vote for Hillary, even though it hurt my heart to let go of Bernie and his ideals. When the wiki leaks stuff came out I went through another round of doubt.
After the convention I felt so much better- listening to what Bernie had said and listening to what Hillary said; I have no reservations at all about voting for her. But even if she hadn't convinced me, especially as Trump does one horrible thing after another, there's no way I could have lived with myself if I 'voted my conscience' and he became President.
I know folks get angry with that kind of talk but it's true. Sometimes the whole, not the personal, is what we should be thinking about.
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Post by jayfab on Aug 1, 2016 1:22:56 GMT
Hello Bernie supporters, I admire your passion. Here is something written by a Bernie or Bust supporter that I think everyone should take into consideration. It's the Republican Platform. Die Hard Bernie Supporter Writes Passionate Open Letter On Why She Is Voting For Hillary
just a bit from the article: "I desperately want to be Bernie or Bust. I want to stand up to corrupt politics and say “No more”. But the more I think about it, the more I don’t think I can. There is too much at stake. Mike Pence swore yesterday that if Donald Trump is elected “We’ll see Roe vs. Wade consigned to the ash heap of history where it belongs.” And it could happen. There is one Supreme Court Justice position open. There are probably going to be more openings during the next presidency. The Court is split evenly right now. If a conservative Justice is appointed, it is highly likely that Mike Pence’s vow will come to fruition; just look at what he’s done in his own state. I don’t want women to lose their right to their own bodies. So I can’t be Bernie or Bust. The RNC platform this year is incredibly unfriendly to the LGBTQ community. The platform states that adopted children should be raised in a “traditional household” and that parents can force their LGBTQ children into conversion therapy. The platform also states that marriages should be between one man and one woman only. The RNC had its first openly gay person on its platform committee this year, and she begged them to include people like her in the platform. They voted against her 112-30. So I cannot bring myself to be Bernie or Bust, because I can’t risk losing equal marriage rights. How am I supposed to look my friends in the eye and tell them I failed to fight for them, if their marriage rights disappear?There are many, many more reasons why that as much as I want to, I cannot be Bernie or Bust. But this next one is the one I most want to stress: Bernie Sanders told us exactly how to continue his political revolution. He wants all of us to get involved, to run for local government, and work our way up. Because that is how you get a legitimate third party. That is how you change the game. Bernie Sanders knows that real change doesn’t happen overnight, and he’s been playing the long game for his entire career. He’s asked us to play the long game too. He told us from the beginning that he would support the Democratic Nominee, even if it wasn’t him, and we screamed out against it when he followed through on that promise. But wasn’t his integrity why we followed him in the first place?" thank you |
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Post by kibble on Aug 1, 2016 1:35:42 GMT
I voted for Bernie in the primaries, but will vote Hillary. Donald just scares me especially because of his inability to keep his mouth shut, and his mammoth ego.
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Post by ellen on Aug 1, 2016 1:41:40 GMT
I'm happy to be voting for Hillary Clinton.
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Post by jenis40 on Aug 1, 2016 2:53:42 GMT
I'm with her. Yes she has some big, ugly warts but she is the most qualified to be president and has been from day one. I like and admire Bernie for his integrity and dedication and think that his vision for the country had some great ideas but I'm too fiscally conservative to really get behind him.
I could never vote Trump because of the misogynistic, racist and downright hurtful comments he's made towards women, people of color and veterans. Choosing the uber conservative Mike Pence as his running mate did not make me want to change my mind.
I could never vote Republican because they claim to want smaller government but can't stay out of my uterus or bedroom.
I'm not pro small government enough to vote Libertarian. I did like some of what Gary Johnson had to say but then I remembered that every Libertarian I knew personally was bat shit crazy. I do think that party is becoming more and more mainstream and don't think every Libertarian is crazy just the ones I know.
The Supreme Court nominations are too important to vote for Jill Stein.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 12:44:14 GMT
Hell will freeze over before I vote for Her Highness.
I will hold my nose and vote for Trump. Then I will go throw up. And before anyone asks, I've read Gary Johnson's positions. Can't vote for him either and I refuse to not vote. Too many have sacrificed too much to secure that right for me. I refuse to slap that privilege in the face.
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Post by rmorgan22 on Aug 1, 2016 15:44:39 GMT
When Trump first announced his running for the republican party, I was like "This is grate, we have a demarcate running in both party's". He's had mostly democratic views in the past so I though it was great he was running in the republican party, but as time goes on, I find he's unstable. He has never heard the term "pick your battles". Trump will fight a 6 year old if he said something bad about him then post it on twitter. I'm afraid we would be in another war the first year if he made it into office.
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Post by ilikepink on Aug 1, 2016 16:42:15 GMT
I will, most likely, vote for Hillary. I'm not happy with some of her actions, although I do agree with most of her policies.
But the real reason "I'm with her" I realized while watching the DNC. I did watch a bit of the RNC (not Trump's speech), and what I got out of the RNC was negativity, hate speak, a very depressed view of our country at the moment. Watching the DNC, I felt optimism and hope. There are a whole bunch of problems within our country that need to be addressed, but I really felt the democrats feel it can be worked on. From the GOP, I get that everything is awful and we have scrap it all (almost) and start again. I'm a person who feels gratitude daily, who sees the good in people (even "bad" people), and I know that the best way to fix something is to work with what you have and make it better, discarding the parts that don't work. The negative, the hatred, the nasty comments that come out of his mouth is, in my opinion, not how to be a president. He's just not a nice person. And whatever her flaws and poor decisions in the past, she presents as a nice person (although I did see an item recently from a SS person that she was not nice), and that will get us farther as a country.
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