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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 3, 2016 16:11:42 GMT
To respond to a few things:
1. I used the word "shills" because collectively the number of threads add up and are overwhelming the board. I know, skim past, and I do, but really, the impression I get is what I stated. 2. Trump says dumb stuff. 3. Not a supporter. I'm not a supporter of anyone. To me there is a difference between supporting someone and voting for them. Supporting someone says you really like them, they are important to you, reflect your views, etc. Voting for them means you pull the lever and walk away; you have no emotional engagement. 4. I'm not a registered Republican, I'm a registered Unaffiliated. I've voted both ways in the past. Don't care about "The Party." 5. Someone used the words "upset and outraged." Who's outraged? It's tiresome. And no, MizIndependent doesn't start 5-10 threads a day about Hillary.
That would be optimal. Then I wouldn't have to write in my dog, who would be a better president than either of the people currently running, IMO.
You meant it as an insult to those people (not the qty of threads about The Donald) who do support Hillary. I'm not aligned with a party either, I considered all, and the Republican Party platform is horrid: Overturn Roe vs. Wade Reverse the Supreme Court ruling on (gay) marriage Abolish the ACA (all the while we won't see reductions because it was the insurance companies jacking up costs at the implementation of ACA, blaming that) Dump the EPA Just to name a few. Not sure how your dog or Mickey Mouse feels about those issues, but I CARE ABOUT THEM AS DO MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. To flippantly say that your dog, Mickey Mouse, etc. is a better candidate just makes you look foolish that in all this you cannot look past the person and take a look at the platforms that the party's have put out. It is important and I take my voting seriously. To say that you can differentiate "voting for" and "supporting" some is naive. Look past the face and tell me that those to terms are different then, because they are not. It IS easy for those who oppose Trump to list out a dozen or fifty reasons why he is not qualified. I have yet to see ANY Trump supporter post a thread showing any of us WHY he is qualified, rather than the "he's not HC" "anyone but her" "he's anti-establishment". There has been NOTHING---ZERO, on any qualifications or experience that would indicate he is the best fit to run our country.
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Post by mimima on Aug 3, 2016 16:22:16 GMT
I am perplexed as to why it is Whitehouse all one word and like a last name
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Post by MizIndependent on Aug 3, 2016 16:28:05 GMT
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 3, 2016 16:33:30 GMT
Setting aside the OP (tl;dr) the sheer volume of Trump threads is becoming rather tiresome. I'd love if there could be just one "Latest Trump outrage" thread that was just added to instead of starting a new one, at least for a few days at a time. YES, me too!!! For so many people that hate him, I can't figure out why they want to keep seeing his name on the front page, over and over and over again
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Post by MizIndependent on Aug 3, 2016 16:42:14 GMT
Setting aside the OP (tl;dr) the sheer volume of Trump threads is becoming rather tiresome. I'd love if there could be just one "Latest Trump outrage" thread that was just added to instead of starting a new one, at least for a few days at a time. YES, me too!!! For so many people that hate him, I can't figure out why they want to keep seeing his name on the front page, over and over and over again They do this over on Reddit - they call them "Mega Threads". It works for that site structure though. Not sure it would work so well with the in-line style we've got here...a lot of the info would get lost or drowned out. I'm not in the least bothered by the volume of Trump or Hillary threads - but then, I likely wouldn't be. I do know it gets tiresome though. I'll probably not post another political thread unless something big happens (like another Wikileaks revelation or something like that). I do try to keep it to no more than one or two threads a week. In July, I posted only 4 or 5 (depending on what you consider political - I do tag them).
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 3, 2016 16:56:08 GMT
YES, me too!!! For so many people that hate him, I can't figure out why they want to keep seeing his name on the front page, over and over and over again They do this over on Reddit - they call them "Mega Threads". It works for that site structure though. Not sure it would work so well with the in-line style we've got here...a lot of the info would get lost or drowned out. I'm not in the least bothered by the volume of Trump or Hillary threads - but then, I likely wouldn't be. I do know it gets tiresome though. I'll probably not post another political thread unless something big happens (like another Wikileaks revelation or something like that). I do try to keep it to no more than one or two threads a week. In July, I posted only 4 or 5 (depending on what you consider political - I do tag them). I really appreciate that you tag your political posts, thank you
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Post by hop2 on Aug 3, 2016 16:57:00 GMT
I see the right wing wackos are in a panic! I LOVE IT! I can't in good conscience call people who do not want Hillary as president a 'wacko' Doesn't seem fair to me. I can see why they don't like Hillary.
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Post by SockMonkey on Aug 3, 2016 17:01:38 GMT
I have absolutely nothing to add to this thread, so I'm just going to post a picture of this corgi's cute fluff butt. I feel like it'd be about as effective as anything else at changing anyone's mind here.
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Post by lovetodigi on Aug 3, 2016 17:20:02 GMT
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 3, 2016 17:21:50 GMT
I am perplexed as to why it is Whitehouse all one word and like a last name Heh. So far in this thread, we've had: -Hillary Clinton -Hillary Shills -Hillary Whitehouse and of course, "Hilary Clinton" usually makes an appearance. (One "L") Gives new meaning to #imwithher. Her who?
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Post by peano on Aug 3, 2016 17:22:01 GMT
It does look a bit "caramel in a can" mixed with "the wonders of coconut oil" around here. LOL! As for being a Hillary shill, BeckyTech, call me whatever the hell you want, I don't care. We have a crazy presidential race, we have one Democratic intelligent and experienced yet flawed human being candidate with a long record of public service who is able to comport herself with dignity. On the Republican side, we have someone I do not and haven't since the beginning, viewed as a viable candidate. I consider him, his beliefs and behaviors, with no hyperbole, to equal the depravity of Hitler. How any intelligent and thoughtful person can even consider him is beyond the realm of my understanding. How any rational person can compare his despicable words and actions to Hillary again defies logic and understanding. I don't believe anyone on this board who is an anti-Hillary shill lacks thoughtfulness or intelligence, but I REALLY do not understand the rabid bias toward her, particularly in light of the alternative, and I guess I never will. I love this country and I fear for this country should Trump be elected. And so every time an anti-Hillary shill posts a screed, to me what you are doing is encouraging people to embrace (and again with no hyperbole) evil. It suggests to me that you do not grasp the seriousness of the situation nor have a clue about how you are contributing, in your own small way, to boosting a Trump presidency, which would be a disaster for our country. At this point, the only thing that matters to me is keeping Trump out of the White House.
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Post by shescrafty on Aug 3, 2016 17:49:37 GMT
As has been the mantra on this board and the old one, if you don't like a thread scroll by!
And as an aside-there are 2 trump and 2 Hillary threads (including this one) on page one right now.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Aug 3, 2016 17:54:01 GMT
I have absolutely nothing to add to this thread, so I'm just going to post a picture of this corgi's cute fluff butt. I feel like it'd be about as effective as anything else at changing anyone's mind here. THanks Sock now I gotta vote for Trump!!! Cause of that cute little Rump. Just kidding. hell hasn't froze over yet.
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Post by SockMonkey on Aug 3, 2016 17:56:34 GMT
I have absolutely nothing to add to this thread, so I'm just going to post a picture of this corgi's cute fluff butt. I feel like it'd be about as effective as anything else at changing anyone's mind here. THanks Sock now I gotta vote for Trump!!! Cause of that cute little Rump. Just kidding. hell hasn't froze over yet. I knew I should've posted the cat twerking gif. SaveSave
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Post by compwalla on Aug 3, 2016 18:09:03 GMT
If you care about who wins then I strongly urge you to take real action in a way that can alter the outcome of this election. If you feel passionate enough to compare the GOP nominee to Hitler then, if you haven't already, seek out ways to volunteer or contribute to the campaign. As much as I'd like facebook shares, reddit megathreads, and posts on this message board to have real influence, they don't. And take the time to seek out the campaigns of down-ballot candidates and consider substantive support for them as well.
To paraphrase Lin Manuel Miranda's version of Aaron Burr, type less. DO more.
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Post by flute4peace on Aug 3, 2016 19:10:37 GMT
1. What's a shill? No really, I've not heard that term before. Sounds like some sort of weird rain-forest stomach bug.
2. My feelings about Trump have nothing whatsoever to do with Hillary.
3. I would be in support of a separate board for politics. Hasn't 2peas done that in the past?
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 3, 2016 19:12:09 GMT
If you care about who wins then I strongly urge you to take real action in a way that can alter the outcome of this election. If you feel passionate enough to compare the GOP nominee to Hitler then, if you haven't already, seek out ways to volunteer or contribute to the campaign. As much as I'd like facebook shares, reddit megathreads, and posts on this message board to have real influence, they don't. And take the time to seek out the campaigns of down-ballot candidates and consider substantive support for them as well. To paraphrase Lin Manuel Miranda's version of Aaron Burr, type less. DO more. I'm proud to say my ds, who was a late political bloomer, has volunteered for two different political parties as his views have changed over the years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 19:17:30 GMT
Your understanding is incorrect. 4 people have corroborated the statement that Hillary blamed the video to them, including one who wrote her down her actions and words verbatim, you know, so there was no chance of memories becoming clouded "in the fog of war" as Hillary claims has happened. 3 of the 4 families claim she said it. But we're supposed to believe it's all 4 people lying and not the confirmed liar who's the one doing the lying.
True, disagreeing with them is not disparaging them, but calling them liars most certainly is. So yes, Hillary did in fact also disparage not just one, but three grieving families.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Aug 3, 2016 19:36:42 GMT
If you care about who wins then I strongly urge you to take real action in a way that can alter the outcome of this election. If you feel passionate enough to compare the GOP nominee to Hitler then, if you haven't already, seek out ways to volunteer or contribute to the campaign. As much as I'd like facebook shares, reddit megathreads, and posts on this message board to have real influence, they don't. And take the time to seek out the campaigns of down-ballot candidates and consider substantive support for them as well. To paraphrase Lin Manuel Miranda's version of Aaron Burr, type less. DO more. I love that you are consistent with this message. If you can't get behind the Presidential candidate find someone you can! Get Busy!
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Post by ellen on Aug 3, 2016 20:08:47 GMT
I have absolutely nothing to add to this thread, so I'm just going to post a picture of this corgi's cute fluff butt. I feel like it'd be about as effective as anything else at changing anyone's mind here. I have two corgis that we have been calling Hillary and Donald lately. One of them has a much better temperament than the other. Hillary is in my profile picture.
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Post by inkedup on Aug 3, 2016 20:12:31 GMT
I have absolutely nothing to add to this thread, so I'm just going to post a picture of this corgi's cute fluff butt. I feel like it'd be about as effective as anything else at changing anyone's mind here. You just need to stop posting such inflammatory propaganda, SockMonkey. This is outrageous!
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Post by nurseypants on Aug 3, 2016 20:26:52 GMT
Shillary.
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Post by zella on Aug 3, 2016 20:29:28 GMT
Adding my voice to those saying that the title of this thread is just downright rude; there is no need to do that.
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Post by MerryMom on Aug 3, 2016 20:54:19 GMT
It does look a bit "caramel in a can" mixed with "the wonders of coconut oil" around here. LOL! As for being a Hillary shill, BeckyTech, call me whatever the hell you want, I don't care. We have a crazy presidential race, we have one Democratic intelligent and experienced yet flawed human being candidate with a long record of public service who is able to comport herself with dignity. On the Republican side, we have someone I do not and haven't since the beginning, viewed as a viable candidate. I consider him, his beliefs and behaviors, with no hyperbole, to equal the depravity of Hitler. How any intelligent and thoughtful person can even consider him is beyond the realm of my understanding. How any rational person can compare his despicable words and actions to Hillary again defies logic and understanding. I don't believe anyone on this board who is an anti-Hillary shill lacks thoughtfulness or intelligence, but I REALLY do not understand the rabid bias toward her, particularly in light of the alternative, and I guess I never will. I love this country and I fear for this country should Trump be elected. And so every time an anti-Hillary shill posts a screed, to me what you are doing is encouraging people to embrace (and again with no hyperbole) evil. It suggests to me that you do not grasp the seriousness of the situation nor have a clue about how you are contributing, in your own small way, to boosting a Trump presidency, which would be a disaster for our country. At this point, the only thing that matters to me is keeping Trump out of the White House.
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Post by peatlejuice on Aug 3, 2016 21:01:12 GMT
I assume the TL;DR version of the OP is "Waah, there's too many anti-Trump threads for me to be offended about and I can't let them scroll by without complaining."
But seriously, bravo for having the stamina to write a manifesto-length post (even if I didn't read it).
And FTR, I agree with the poster who suggested a single "Trump sucks" and a single "Hillary sucks" thread would be ideal. I'm just not willing to make a scene over it.
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Post by compwalla on Aug 3, 2016 21:38:38 GMT
If you care about who wins then I strongly urge you to take real action in a way that can alter the outcome of this election. If you feel passionate enough to compare the GOP nominee to Hitler then, if you haven't already, seek out ways to volunteer or contribute to the campaign. As much as I'd like facebook shares, reddit megathreads, and posts on this message board to have real influence, they don't. And take the time to seek out the campaigns of down-ballot candidates and consider substantive support for them as well. To paraphrase Lin Manuel Miranda's version of Aaron Burr, type less. DO more. I love that you are consistent with this message. If you can't get behind the Presidential candidate find someone you can! Get Busy! I spent my lunch hour formatting a huge data dump from NGP VAN of local voters who have not voted in the last few elections. Our county party is going to canvas/phone bank these voters and get the voter database updated in preparation for the ground game that's coming up. I cannot canvas like I could in the past (still recovering from chemo) but I can be the county's VAN point person. I generally do not argue politics on the internet but every time I see other people doing so, it gives me a little bit more motivation to keep doing what I'm doing. Every county/parish party in the country is (or should be) doing something similar so anyone can pick up the phone, fill out the webform, find out who their county chair or precinct captain is, and ask how they can help.
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Post by inkedup on Aug 3, 2016 21:41:40 GMT
I love that you are consistent with this message. If you can't get behind the Presidential candidate find someone you can! Get Busy! I spent my lunch hour formatting a huge data dump from NGP VAN of local voters who have not voted in the last few elections. Our county party is going to canvas/phone bank these voters and get the voter database updated in preparation for the ground game that's coming up. I cannot canvas like I could in the past (still recovering from chemo) but I can be the county's VAN point person. I generally do not argue politics on the internet but every time I see other people doing so, it gives me a little bit more motivation to keep doing what I'm doing. Every county/parish party in the country is (or should be) doing something similar so anyone can pick up the phone, fill out the webform, find out who their county chair or precinct captain is, and ask how they can help. I really admire and appreciate the fact that you put your money where your mouth is. You are one of the few people I know who does more than try to change minds via social media. (I include myself in this.) What a great example for your children.
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Post by pastlifepea on Aug 3, 2016 21:45:30 GMT
To insert a little levity here, I read the title of this thread as "hillbilly shills" and wondered what in the world that could possibly be and since I am maybe a little bit of a redneck, how I could make some money shilling. For the record, I think both candidates are complete and total dirt bags and electing either one of them is just going to cause our already very split and polarized country to become even worse. I am also disappointed to learn that there is no paying shill job for me.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 3, 2016 21:47:45 GMT
Your understanding is incorrect. 4 people have corroborated the statement that Hillary blamed the video to them, including one who wrote her down her actions and words verbatim, you know, so there was no chance of memories becoming clouded "in the fog of war" as Hillary claims has happened. 3 of the 4 families claim she said it. But we're supposed to believe it's all 4 people lying and not the confirmed liar who's the one doing the lying. True, disagreeing with them is not disparaging them, but calling them liars most certainly is. So yes, Hillary did in fact also disparage not just one, but three grieving families. And there are reports refuting your comments/opinion. Just because it's not what you want to hear...
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Post by jayfab on Aug 3, 2016 21:51:33 GMT
UNITE Shillaries for Hillary!
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