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Post by **Angie** on Aug 22, 2016 10:44:38 GMT
We homeschooled ds from 2nd to 7th grade. He went back to public school in 7th grade, mostly because he wanted to be around more kids. (His words.) He started 8th grade this year. He says he is miserable. All the reasons I didn't want him to go back, he's now saying he understands what I meant and should have listened to me. He's a very mature 13 year old and I don't feel like he's just repeated my words back to me, kwim? So, we're debating pulling him out of public school again. In WV, if you are homeschooling and go back to public school after 9th grade, you have to test out or repeat whatever years you missed. Dh has said if ds starts homeschoooling again, he has to agree that's how he finishes. Anyway, has anyone else homeschooled through high school? Any suggestions or resources? When we started homeschooling in 2nd grade, I worried that I couldn't do it. Now, I know I can do it, but I'm worried that I'll screw ds up and ruin his life. Okay, so it's a bit more like panic... Thanks for reading, I appreciate it.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 22, 2016 11:27:28 GMT
My dd doesn't exactly homeschool, but she does do school at home. She is currently in 7th grade.
I found a charter school through k12.com for her to attend online. It has completely brought back all the joy and excitement of learning.
Four days a week, she has live classes online with a teacher and her class in a group chat (with microphones & chatroom, but can also turn on vid cam if she wants to).
All materials, including laptop, are provided free of charge by k12.com and mailed directly to our home.
And we go on outings to meet other students in our area.
So,, all that to say, there are options. Even if homeschool for whatever reason doesn't work out, there are alternatives to right back into public school.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 11:57:10 GMT
We did cyber school using K12 throughout high school for my DS but for DD switched to traditional homeschool in 11&12. We are across the state line in PA though and I know our laws are a lot different when it comes to homeschool. If I remember right from talking to WV homeschoolers, cyberschool isn't an option, right? Is your son still involved in PopShop? I hope I am thinking of the same family. If not,sorry. I know when we started PopShop, Chris still offered a daytime class that was completely homeschoolers. When we left, there were still a ton of homeschooling families involved in the program. Can you connect with some of them for advice and support? With them being in the same state as you, they would probably be great resources for you. Good luck, Angie. You can do it!
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Post by **Angie** on Aug 22, 2016 12:02:17 GMT
I'd forgotten about k12. I'll have to check it out.
Honestly, I don't know what will happen. Ds has agreed to give this year a chance (i.e. We'll discuss it again in a month or so). I think he has a great opportunity in a couple of his classes, a decent experience in a couple, and two that will be hellish (33 kids in a science classroom meant for 20, the teacher already said they'll just be reading the textbook this year).
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Post by Patter on Aug 22, 2016 12:05:59 GMT
I pulled my girls out of public school after 7th grade. Should have done it sooner. Anyway, they were "homeschooled" 8th through 12th. Two are now seniors in college and both of them are double science majors always on the honor roll. It can be done. We did not do the K12 because it was public school just online. We didn't want the normal public school curriculum. I taught them through 8th grade. Then 9th-12th they attended an online school that was more of what we were looking for. One of our favorite online schools is Landry Academy. Great school. They have tons of courses. We attended some of their local intensive classes. My girls loved it. Deadline for early registration discounts is tomorrow. landryacademy.com/live-classes/course-catalog/Anyway, it can be done, and your son can be a huge success in college. My girls do not feel like they missed out on anything being homeschooled in high school. In fact, they feel they did more and learned so much. They were also definitely ready for college and have just thrived.
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Post by **Angie** on Aug 22, 2016 12:08:10 GMT
We did cyber school using K12 throughout high school for my DS but for DD switched to traditional homeschool in 11&12. We are across the state line in PA though and I know our laws are a lot different when it comes to homeschool. If I remember right from talking to WV homeschoolers, cyberschool isn't an option, right? Is your son still involved in PopShop? I hope I am thinking of the same family. If not,sorry. I know when we started PopShop, Chris still offered a daytime class that was completely homeschoolers. When we left, there were still a ton of homeschooling families involved in the program. Can you connect with some of them for advice and support? With them being in the same state as you, they would probably be great resources for you. Good luck, Angie. You can do it! Ds is still in PopShop, thanks for remembering! He's in two bands this session. WV is so backwards regarding homeschooling. We could do cyberschool because WV doesn't recognize homeschooling as a substitute for public school (i.e. WV won't issue a diploma for homeschool graduates. Not that he would necessarily need a state-issued diploma.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 12:34:59 GMT
I have 3 daughters who all homeschool. I don't know anything about their curriculum so this may not be much help to you, but maybe just let you know it is doable. 3 are finished and 1 needs to finish his foreign language then he will be finished. #1. is working on his masters in biology/chemistry and works in the lab at the university. He organizes our family reunions based on what Mountain he wants to climb and right now is with his sister and 2 cousins caving in Alabama. He says he wants to find a job in a lab in a national park when he graduates. #2. has had a full time job since he was 17 in IT. He is a junior in college but is not enrolled this semester because he needs to complete 2 certifications for his job. #3. Is a monitor tech at a hospital and is applying to nursing school. She has been a lifeguard at the YMCA since she was 16 and teaches private swimming lessons. #4. (the one who needs to finish his Spanish) just finished putting a new motor in his 1978 red porsche, drove it from Texas to NC and got a job at Starbucks where he plans to take advantage of their scholarship program. But someone also just offered him a full time job designing 3D something or another that I don't really understand. He said he would think about it. This is the only one who still lives at home. The porsche is really pretty...I have to show it to you. If you think I am a little proud, you might be right.
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Post by littlemama on Aug 22, 2016 12:38:02 GMT
He went back to public school in 7th grade, mostly because he wanted to be around more kids. (His words.) He started 8th grade this year. He says he is miserable. All the reasons I didn't want him to go back, he's now saying he understands what I meant and should have listened to me. What are the reasons he is giving for not liking traditional school?
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Post by Peamac on Aug 22, 2016 13:55:59 GMT
I homeschooled both DDs through high school. There are a lot more resources for homeschooling high school now than there was just a few years ago. Even if you use K12 curriculum or use the school district's curriculum. We used a video curriculum for many of DDs' classes, esp math and science. There may be homeschool groups in your area that get together also, but often there aren't many high schoolers in the groups. There are also programs where high schoolers can get high school and college credit at the same time and graduate high school with enough college credits to be a sophomore, or have earned an associate degree.
DD#1 excelled at school and always tested way high on required achievement tests. She took two semesters of college-level history of civilization online from a community college during her senior year of high school. Those classes transferred to her college, so she didn't have to take it during her freshman year of college. Being homeschooled allowed her to spend quite a bit of time on her interests (art), and she did quite well in college (graphic design) and grad school (sequential art). She worked very hard and finished her MFA earlier than most do, with honors.
DD#2 had vision problems that made school difficult for her, plus she had test anxiety. I always worried when it was time for her to take the achievement tests because of her anxiety. She scored high in some areas, but always low in certain areas, as a result of her vision problems. Homeschooling allowed her to learn at her own pace without the added stress of feeling like she was behind everyone else. She didn't do any college-level courses before graduating, and took two and a half years to get her associate degree. She did okay on the ACT, worked very hard in college, and is now happily married. Her DH was homeschooled (as were his siblings), he did well in college, and he's starting law school (his older sister just finished law school in December). And they plan to home school their children, whenever they start having kids.
My nephew and niece were homeschooled through high school also. Nephew finished school in February or so of his senior year, just after turning 17. He spent the rest of the school year CLEPping out of about a year's worth of freshman college classes and took a class or two during the summer before his first official year of college. He started as a sophomore nursing major, finished his BSN in three years, got a super great job, and is planning on grad school soon- he wants to be a nurse anesthetist.
Niece had some struggles in school like my DD#2 did. She finished homeschooling on time and is now starting her senior year of college. She's had a demanding work, school, and rehearsal schedule but really enjoys it and does well.
So yes, it can be done. It can be done well. A lot depends on using a great curriculum (which doesn't have to be too expensive).
ETA- FYI- someone mentioned a diploma. Because the state won't issue a diploma to homeschoolers, I looked at our state's requirements for a Colorado high school diploma- 4 English classes, 2 years of language, etc, etc. We actually did more than the required hours/courses. They more than earned a diploma, and there are websites that can issue/print diplomas for homeschoolers, so that's what we did. DD#2 had to show a copy of her high school diploma when applying for a job after college. I don't know why, but they wanted to see her high school diploma (even though she had a college diploma with an associate degree in the same field as the job she was applying for), so I had to scan and email it to her.
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Post by mom2samlibby on Aug 22, 2016 17:15:49 GMT
I'm homeschooling a senior and a freshman this year. Neither have been in public school. It's really not that hard to homeschool high school students. A lot of their work is done independently. There are a lot of options out there. My son took a class last semester at our community college. This summer, he did an online class through the university.
The well trained mind forum has a lot of advice to offer for homeschooling high school students. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Post by mom on Aug 22, 2016 21:37:15 GMT
We homeschooled ds from 2nd to 7th grade. He went back to public school in 7th grade, mostly because he wanted to be around more kids. (His words.) He started 8th grade this year. He says he is miserable. All the reasons I didn't want him to go back, he's now saying he understands what I meant and should have listened to me. He's a very mature 13 year old and I don't feel like he's just repeated my words back to me, kwim? So, we're debating pulling him out of public school again. In WV, if you are homeschooling and go back to public school after 9th grade, you have to test out or repeat whatever years you missed. Dh has said if ds starts homeschoooling again, he has to agree that's how he finishes.Anyway, has anyone else homeschooled through high school? Any suggestions or resources? When we started homeschooling in 2nd grade, I worried that I couldn't do it. Now, I know I can do it, but I'm worried that I'll screw ds up and ruin his life. Okay, so it's a bit more like panic... Thanks for reading, I appreciate it. I am not a homeschooler, but I would be hesitant to allow a 13 year old to decide he has ti stick with something for the next 5 years. There is a big difference in maturity in 13 than at 18, and his needs will change. Im not saying don't let him make the choice now - but I think leaving some room for a change later on might be a better plan.
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Post by **Angie** on Aug 22, 2016 22:37:01 GMT
He went back to public school in 7th grade, mostly because he wanted to be around more kids. (His words.) He started 8th grade this year. He says he is miserable. All the reasons I didn't want him to go back, he's now saying he understands what I meant and should have listened to me. What are the reasons he is giving for not liking traditional school? 1. The size of the classes. They are crammed into the classrooms and the biggest has 12 extra kids. Some sit on the floor. Ds does not do well with that many people at once. 2. Ds says he misses the freedom he had when homeschooling. He said he misses being able to see what it is he is studying and doing hands-on projects. 3. He really wants to start taking music lessons again, but doesn't want to do them in the evenings. 4. He says that he realizes that he would rather have one or two close friends than a school-full of kids he recognizes but doesn't really know. 5. He wants to go at his own pace in lessons versus having to wait for everyone else to finish. Normally, I'd say learn to live with it, but I guess he sat for 45 minutes today (out of a 90 minute class) in math. He said his teacher wouldn't let him work on his homework from other classes.
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Post by **Angie** on Aug 22, 2016 22:42:00 GMT
We homeschooled ds from 2nd to 7th grade. He went back to public school in 7th grade, mostly because he wanted to be around more kids. (His words.) He started 8th grade this year. He says he is miserable. All the reasons I didn't want him to go back, he's now saying he understands what I meant and should have listened to me. He's a very mature 13 year old and I don't feel like he's just repeated my words back to me, kwim? So, we're debating pulling him out of public school again. In WV, if you are homeschooling and go back to public school after 9th grade, you have to test out or repeat whatever years you missed. Dh has said if ds starts homeschoooling again, he has to agree that's how he finishes.Anyway, has anyone else homeschooled through high school? Any suggestions or resources? When we started homeschooling in 2nd grade, I worried that I couldn't do it. Now, I know I can do it, but I'm worried that I'll screw ds up and ruin his life. Okay, so it's a bit more like panic... Thanks for reading, I appreciate it. I am not a homeschooler, but I would be hesitant to allow a 13 year old to decide he has ti stick with something for the next 5 years. There is a big difference in maturity in 13 than at 18, and his needs will change. Im not saying don't let him make the choice now - but I think leaving some room for a change later on might be a better plan. I think it's more about WV school laws. You start 9th as a homeschooler and if you decide to go back to public school in 10th/11th/12th you have to test out of or repeat any grade before the one you should be in. And, a bit about DH doesn't want ds to think he can just flip back and forth willy-nilly.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 22, 2016 23:51:12 GMT
I am reading this thread and appreciating any opinions given. I am strongly considering this for my son as well. He is a very smart kid. He tests at the top of his class. Yet he is struggling with bipolar and has had some behavior issues in school. He is still really struggling and I am thinking that homeschooling might be a better option for him as he can move quickly through things he's very good at like math and science. And he can get extra focus on things like reading and writing which he really hates to do.
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Post by MorningPerson on Aug 23, 2016 1:17:33 GMT
We did not homeschool our kids, but someone very close to use did - all 4 of their kids, from start to finish, and they are all college grads (one from a top-notch university's honors program), 3 have master's degrees, and all 4 are delightful, intelligent, well rounded adults with great careers and families of their own.
If it's done right, homeschooling is a very, very good option.
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Post by scrapaddie on Aug 23, 2016 1:50:00 GMT
I'd forgotten about k12. I'll have to check it out. Honestly, I don't know what will happen. Ds has agreed to give this year a chance (i.e. We'll discuss it again in a month or so). I think he has a great opportunity in a couple of his classes, a decent experience in a couple, and two that will be hellish (33 kids in a science classroom meant for 20, the teacher already said they'll just be reading the textbook this year). i am so sorry about the science class... As a retired science teacher, I think science should be fun and class should be active
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Post by **Angie** on Aug 23, 2016 4:26:35 GMT
Well, holy heck. I think we're going to be homeschooling again.
Ds talked to me this afternoon and dh this evening. Then, ds talked to me again before bed - very self-aware and well-spoken. I told him we needed to talk it over as a family, and that since dh will be gone this week, we'd talk next weekend. Ds calmly said "I don't know how to make it through a week but I'll try".
I go out to talk to dh and dh is all "pull him out tomorrow and you can both go with me this week". My jaw dropped and dh continued with "You can do this. You did an excellent job before and we'll find a tutor for Algebra 2 in a few years."
What the heck happened to my dh? Was there a body snatching invasion?
Anyway, dh wants to talk to ds in the morning. I may be filing the notice tomorrow. And notifying the school. And quitting the parent organization. And rejoining the local homeschooling group. Holy carp.
I definitely feel that ds needs to go at least one more day so as to say goodbye to his friends. Of course, he says he only has two there -one that lives next door and lives with us half the time and another that will be in a band with ds.
Holy carp.
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Post by **Angie** on Aug 23, 2016 4:30:09 GMT
I'd forgotten about k12. I'll have to check it out. Honestly, I don't know what will happen. Ds has agreed to give this year a chance (i.e. We'll discuss it again in a month or so). I think he has a great opportunity in a couple of his classes, a decent experience in a couple, and two that will be hellish (33 kids in a science classroom meant for 20, the teacher already said they'll just be reading the textbook this year). i am so sorry about the science class... As a retired science teacher, I think science should be fun and class should be active Me, too. When we were homeschooling before, science was very hands-on and in-depth. Last year (7th grade), they were learning what I taught ds in fifth grade and with less actual activity.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Aug 23, 2016 5:51:22 GMT
Here is another opinion to consider. I was public schooled and going to school every day was painful for me. I hated school, I hated my teachers, I hated learning. Yeah, school was not a good thing for me. I wish and I sincerely mean this, wish we had options when I was a student. I took correspondence educational courses through the province because I was motivated for extra credit so I know I could have been homeschooled. I was not well and going to school nearly killed me. My parents now see how I struggled but it was really difficult.
I am not saying your son is anything like me at all. I am just saying from your words he is struggling and needs a way to succeed both in school and in life.
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Post by AngieandSnoopy on Aug 23, 2016 5:58:42 GMT
I see the decision has already been made. I did three years in two, 10 through 12 on my own with American School of Correspondence in Chicago. My mother didn't have to help me with anything, I was motivated. I would wake up in the morning, pick up one of my books and study before even getting up. My younger sister did Calvert and my mother did have to be her teacher. To make a long story short, my father died just after I turned 8 and my mother went through a wedding ceremony (11 years later we found out it wasn't legal) with a POS control freak jack@$$. When I started the public school where we moved to I was 10 and in the 6th grade. I went from being average to being a "brain", the next 4 years I was on the honor roll and one of the 3 smartest in the class. Sixth grade was a piece of cake because if felt like I was redoing the fifth grade and I already knew everything. The two schools I went to before that one were definitely better academically! We weren't allowed to go to school in the 10th & 5th (sister) grades and did nothing that year but do the workbooks that my mother bought us that were meant to help someone do extra work to better learn. They thought about letting us go to the private school but supposedly decided it was cheaper to homeschool but it was really to keep us under his thumb. Especially since at the time, homeschooling was not recognized by my home state and in fact, was probably illegal. This was my ticket out of that house AND I do like learning so I got good grades and managed to graduate the year I was supposed to graduate at the age of 17. I was able to leave home and go to business school that fall. The state DID give me some kind of test. Going in the guy was VERY pessimistic that I'd be able to pass with my American School Correspondence diploma. That TOTALLY changed when he came out after they graded my exam, he was smiling and said I passed with flying colors. I'm not sure exactly what that was all about because I don't recall getting any kind of paperwork like a GED or anything but to ME, it made my American School diploma legit. I kept in contact with one of the other two girls that along with me were the 3 that were at the top of our class. She went to another school in the 11th grade after 10 years at that school. She said she had to work SO much harder there to get the same grades she got easily at the school we both went to. That proved to me that at least I got (and gave myself) a better education than I would have gotten at that school. I went to business school and "majored" in computer science and did well and all my first jobs involved mainframe computers. I wanted to go to college but wasn't "allowed" and stupidly wanted to keep the peace and a relationship with my mother and sister. Since you have a better situation that I did and your DH is also onboard, I think your son will do well. I really liked being able to go my own pace. On subjects that I learned fast, I could keep going rather than waiting around for everyone else to catch up. On subjects I was slower to grasp, I could take the time I needed and read over and over until I KNEW it. There was one subject that I got help from a cousin that was a retired school teacher, it was nice that I could take as long as needed to fully understand. Good luck!
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Post by lindywholoveskids on Aug 23, 2016 7:44:43 GMT
Interesting thread. I only know one family *neighbor who homeschooled their only daughter.
she said at age 2 she didn't want to go to school because she didn't want to be around kids.
this girl is now studying abroad and seems content in her life.
Being a preschool teacher myself, I didn't understand why parents would listen to a 2 year old, but she did get some opportunities to interact with other homeshoolers during her school life.
She also took up dance and that was an opportunity to socially interact.
So it wasn't for us or anyone else we knew, but it worked out ok for this kid.
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Post by doxiesx3 on Aug 23, 2016 11:33:09 GMT
I home school both my kids. Jared is a sophomore this year and Emmy is in 8th grade. We use a few different programs and I supplement with what I feel is important to their learning. Since I am a single mom and work full time, the kids basically school them selves. I will get emails with their test scores, I can log into their school website and see their grades...this works for us. Good luck to you!!
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Post by Peamac on Aug 23, 2016 14:34:36 GMT
OP- glad your DH is so quickly on board with the change! Don't worry about Algebra 2- there are so many curricula and helps out there. My niece struggled with Algebra and my sister finally found Teaching Textbooks and Life of Fred, I think that were helpful for her.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 23, 2016 15:27:57 GMT
I home school both my kids. Jared is a sophomore this year and Emmy is in 8th grade. We use a few different programs and I supplement with what I feel is important to their learning. Since I am a single mom and work full time, the kids basically school them selves. I will get emails with their test scores, I can log into their school website and see their grades...this works for us. Good luck to you!! Will you share what program you use?
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Post by redayh on Aug 23, 2016 16:23:42 GMT
So, do you have to have any sort of education to home school, or does that not matter? I'm being serious here, not snarky at all. For example, I was not great in Chemistry, so I would not feel comfortable teaching it..or physics, etc. How does that work? Also, how does the transition to the next level of school work. If a kid can't be in a larger classroom setting and doesn't do well with structure, how do they do in college? Or at work after that. Again, I'm truly curious as I've always wondered.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 17:54:34 GMT
So, do you have to have any sort of education to home school, or does that not matter? I'm being serious here, not snarky at all. For example, I was not great in Chemistry, so I would not feel comfortable teaching it..or physics, etc. How does that work? Also, how does the transition to the next level of school work. If a kid can't be in a larger classroom setting and doesn't do well with structure, how do they do in college? Or at work after that. Again, I'm truly curious as I've always wondered. Most states don't have any education requirements for the parents to teach their own children. Some require a high school diploma or equivalent. I understand why you would not be comfortable teaching subjects you didn't do well in when you took those courses. Math is my weak area, so we use a computer-based curriculum. We use Khan Academy to supplement if they still don't understand a concept. There are so many outside resources available to parents and students nowadays. To me, it's no different than a teacher asking her colleagues for other methods or strategies to help her students. Also, many local homeschool groups offer co-op classes. Parents who have degrees in certain subjects volunteer to teach an entire class. Our group has even had community college professors come in and teach writing, math and science courses. We had a high school driver's ed teacher offer driver's ed classes, but my kids were too young at the time. If there are no co-op classes available, parents can hire tutors to help their children. They don't have to be experts in all subjects in order to provide their children with a quality education. I really can't answer your college related questions as my own kids are still in high school. But most of the homeschool graduates I know who have gone to college have done as well as their peers who were traditionally schooled.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 18:00:14 GMT
OP- glad your DH is so quickly on board with the change! Don't worry about Algebra 2- there are so many curricula and helps out there. My niece struggled with Algebra and my sister finally found Teaching Textbooks and Life of Fred, I think that were helpful for her. Teaching Textbooks has been a great fit for our family! I highly recommend it. DS15 did great with Algebra I and is now working on Geometry. He'll do Algebra 2 next year, and we plan to stick with TT. **Angie**, your son sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders. I wish your family the best as you re-adjust to homeschooling!
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Post by Peamac on Aug 23, 2016 18:07:19 GMT
So, do you have to have any sort of education to home school, or does that not matter? I'm being serious here, not snarky at all. For example, I was not great in Chemistry, so I would not feel comfortable teaching it..or physics, etc. How does that work? Also, how does the transition to the next level of school work. If a kid can't be in a larger classroom setting and doesn't do well with structure, how do they do in college? Or at work after that. Again, I'm truly curious as I've always wondered. In addition to what @nicksmom said, many school districts allow homeschoolers to take a couple classes at school (sometimes just electives like choir, band, or art; but sometimes math and science also) and still be considered homeschooled. I do know that some states require parents to take continuing education type of courses and often there's a group or some sort of resource that can provide that specifically for homeschooling parents. Also, a child that may not do well in a classroom often does well in real life. I know many homeschoolers who do much better being around people of all ages, as opposed to being stuck in a classroom with everyone their own age. They learn how to adapt in their own time and in their own way. One thing I really appreciated about homeschooling our DDs was that they were able to talk to people of all ages, and they willingly carried on conversations with people from different backgrounds. They were able to avoid a lot of drama that often comes with high school and young college students, because they could see that an "issue" wasn't really a big deal/wasn't worth getting hurt feelings over/etc. Homeschooling doesn't mean that there's no structure, it just means the schedule and structure can be set to the child's advantage or changed easily if necessary. DD1 would rather get her school work finished asap to spend the rest of the day drawing. DD2 was NOT a morning person at all, so even though she started at the same time as DD1, she would save the harder for her classes until a little later in the day. Just like in college when you can usually choose your class times. Many homeschoolers work while in high school, since they can set their own class schedule. College is much less regulated than high school, also. The kids are responsible to do their homework, go to class, etc on their own. Class schedules are different, and there's more freedom in choosing classes, so generally homeschoolers do as well or better than their peers.
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Post by redayh on Aug 23, 2016 19:39:02 GMT
Thanks for the information you guys. I know very little about it all and have always been curious.
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Post by **Angie** on Sept 2, 2016 4:17:04 GMT
So, do you have to have any sort of education to home school, or does that not matter? I'm being serious here, not snarky at all. For example, I was not great in Chemistry, so I would not feel comfortable teaching it..or physics, etc. How does that work? Also, how does the transition to the next level of school work. If a kid can't be in a larger classroom setting and doesn't do well with structure, how do they do in college? Or at work after that. Again, I'm truly curious as I've always wondered. In WV, you have to have a high school diploma. I've yet to find a subject that I don't have some basic knowledge in. And to be honest, I find that sometimes I'm learning (or relearning) right along with ds. Once he hits higher math (Algebra 2 or Calculus), I'll find a poor college student willing to be ds' tutor. Ds doesn't have issues with structure. He likes knowing that he has a set list of things to do and a particular amount of time to do them in. One of his issues is that he can't deal with sensory overload. In the case of his science class, the room was designed to seat 25 max and 33 students were crammed in. That many people in that small of a space meant constant distractions and an unhappy teacher. They have to leave their binders and backpacks out in the hall and ds said he can't remember anything other than kids constantly distracting him. He's had classes before with that many other students and did fine - the difference was the size of the classroom.
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