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Post by bay63 on Nov 10, 2016 12:39:49 GMT
I live in the Boston area, and there was a news clip saying that a school in Boston is going to have counselors in the school today for any student or teacher that wants to talk about the election.
Give me a break!
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Post by disneypal on Nov 10, 2016 12:49:10 GMT
Oh brother!
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Post by melanell on Nov 10, 2016 12:55:40 GMT
I don't know that it is something I would feel "Give me a break!" about. We purposely tried to be sure that our young son did not watch or hear any of the speeches, and we tried to save political ranting to when he wasn't around, and yet he still formed an opinion that D. Trump is "a bad guy" and once even asked if he should be in jail.
So I can imagine that if a child is living in a home where they have been hearing the speeches or interviews and/or if they have heard their parent(s)/adults ranting, bemoaning, or fearing a Trump presidency, then they may be afraid right now. And, especially for the younger students, that's a very good reason for them to speak to a counselor in my opinion. They can't focus on learning if they're sitting in the chairs feeling anxious about what they have been hearing at home. A sounding board other than their concerned, angry, or frightened parental units could be very helpful to them.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 10, 2016 12:55:54 GMT
Plenty of people (myself included) are having a hard time with the results of the election. It goes beyond "not getting our way". Many people are scared for their safety, particularly minorities and immigrants (I have now heard three stories of hate crimes from Facebook friends). I've seen posts where people were saying that they were going to "grab them all by the pussy". Donald Trump has said a lot of hateful, gross things and the fact that people voted for him shows that those things were condoned. He was not accountable. So, why would anyone else be accountable for those types of behaviors? It is a grieving process--grieving for the America that we thought we lived in. Feeling like we live in a world of strangers and not knowing who supports the hate and who doesn't. If you take the time to read this, it might help you understand a little bit of how people are feeling and have more empathy. johnpavlovitz.com/2016/11/09/heres-why-we-grieve-today/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=facebook_page&utm_medium=John+Pavlovitz&utm_content=Here%27s+Why+We+Grieve+Today
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Post by Kerri W on Nov 10, 2016 13:02:07 GMT
My initial reaction was "too much" I think simply because that's how I tend to react. On further thought though my 11 yo DS needed to talk about the election results yesterday morning. He just didn't get why DT was elected when he had heard so much bad. And that bad didn't come from home. DH and I dont have a lot of discussions about politics period. We're both more readers/researchers than debaters. he wanted to talk about it again when he got home about what he heard and how his classmates reacted. Dd also teaches 1st grade and said both she and her teammate had to deal with incidents yesterday. One little boy told another something about "DT said all the n's..." and another little girl was scared because she thought her family would be deported while she was at school resulting in her being separated from them. So I do feel for this election it's very real fallout that schools are having to deal with. ETA: I feel like I should clarify a bit. I didn't initially think "too much" because I didn't feel there might be a need. I tend to first take a conservative approach and observe a situation before jumping to more if it isn't called for. I feel like counseling for students is absolutely the best choice here. I'm not sure I can state that clearly.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 10, 2016 13:10:47 GMT
I have heard of several situations now where people said racist things to other kids at school (my mom is a guidance counselor in Iowa and she said she heard of at least three different schools hat have had this happen now, and it was on the news that racist, anti-immigrant things were found in a MN high school). A friend of a friend was also the victim of a hate crime yesterday in which she was run off the road, called names for being a lesbian, and then they pulled out lighter fluid and a lighter and said, "go trump".
These are real situations and people have real fear based on what trump has said and how people are acting it out.
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Post by secondlife on Nov 10, 2016 13:17:35 GMT
If a student in Boston needs adult help working through his or her feelings about the election, what impact does that have on you?
Is it at all possible that "give me a break" is a response of privilege?
Or that this was a long, tiring, and divisive election with an unexpected outcome and that has created emotion in people?
Is it really so difficult to imagine that there were people who felt they had something to lose here?
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Post by MsKnit on Nov 10, 2016 13:21:37 GMT
A little compassion and understanding goes a long way
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 13:27:54 GMT
I think it's great that they want to help kids process the culmination of a very difficult and bitter election. If a lot of adults are upset and scared, why wouldn't kids be? I'm glad they're offering something like this -- it's been a very rough few months. If ithelps calm kids' anxiety down so they're ready to learn, then good.
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 10, 2016 13:31:59 GMT
I live in the Boston area, and there was a news clip saying that a school in Boston is going to have counselors in the school today for any student or teacher that wants to talk about the election. Give me a break! How compassionate! I'm a grown woman struggling with triggers and the thought rape culture has allowed a "grab em by the p*ssy" to be elected president. I can imagine very much there are kids who need someone safe to talk with and process, especially if they are living with their "p*ssy grabber". And I imagine the LGBT kids and Muslim and Hispanic and others subjected to the hate speech from candidate Trump do as well. This isn't normal level boo hoo my candidate lost, this is people are scared of who they perceive to be a very dangerous man with a dangerous level of support.
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Post by dulcemama on Nov 10, 2016 13:34:01 GMT
I think it's great that they want to help kids process the culmination of a very difficult and bitter election. If a lot of adults are upset and scared, why wouldn't kids be? I'm glad they're offering something like this -- it's been a very rough few months. If ithelps calm kids' anxiety down so they're ready to learn, then good. I agree with this. It is not just about the results. It's also about a very vicious election process. I have been talking to DD about it all the way along, explaining how different people think about things differently etc. But the hyperbole has gotten to her anyway and she believes that Trump will blow up the world. She did not get that from me.
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Post by jassy on Nov 10, 2016 13:43:27 GMT
No, it's not too much. If kids are stressed and anxious, it's good for the schools to help them process so they can focus on learning.
I'm the mother of two internationally adopted (immigrant) sons of color. My younger son woke up the day after the election and said "does this mean I need to leave the country now?" For months, they've been getting "jokes" from their classmates about how they will need to "go back" if Trump is elected. My kids - particularly my younger son - is stressed out.
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Post by elaine on Nov 10, 2016 13:50:44 GMT
My 16 y.o. son is having a hard time dealing with the results. As a person with a lifelong disability, I don't blame him. We have had a couple of talks with him yesterday, but he is still depressed.
It is less about the election results, per se, and more about what it says about our culture that our new President thinks it is okay to make fun of people like him.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Nov 10, 2016 13:54:41 GMT
No, it's not too much. If kids are stressed and anxious, it's good for the schools to help them process so they can focus on learning. I'm the mother of two internationally adopted (immigrant) sons of color. My younger son woke up the day after the election and said "does this mean I need to leave the country now?" For months, they've been getting "jokes" from their classmates about how they will need to "go back" if Trump is elected. My kids - particularly my younger son - is stressed out. That's heartbreaking. I'm sorry.
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Post by melanell on Nov 10, 2016 14:07:05 GMT
No, it's not too much. If kids are stressed and anxious, it's good for the schools to help them process so they can focus on learning. I'm the mother of two internationally adopted (immigrant) sons of color. My younger son woke up the day after the election and said "does this mean I need to leave the country now?" For months, they've been getting "jokes" from their classmates about how they will need to "go back" if Trump is elected. My kids - particularly my younger son - is stressed out. I'm so sorry. Save
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Post by amom23 on Nov 10, 2016 14:18:57 GMT
No, it's not too much. If kids are stressed and anxious, it's good for the schools to help them process so they can focus on learning. I'm the mother of two internationally adopted (immigrant) sons of color. My younger son woke up the day after the election and said "does this mean I need to leave the country now?" For months, they've been getting "jokes" from their classmates about how they will need to "go back" if Trump is elected. My kids - particularly my younger son - is stressed out. My 9 year old niece was adopted from Ethiopia at age 6 months and yesterday before school she asked my sister if Trump winning meant she had to go back to Africa now.
OP the fear is real and it's out there. Please don't dismiss it just because your candidate won.
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Post by stargazer on Nov 10, 2016 14:43:08 GMT
I had several worried students in my class over here in England. We had the same issues after the Brexit vote. Children see & hear a lot of "adult content" & can't process it alone (heck, neither can many adults!). Surely it's better to let them voice & share their fears even if they're not *your* fears.
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Post by PaperAngel on Nov 10, 2016 15:17:09 GMT
Children take cues from the adults around them. Rather than learning about our government, appreciating our freedoms, & celebrating our history of peaceful transitions of power, it appears many children were exposed to the "dirty politics" of this election. Perhaps the counselors can help the children develop a healthy perspective & ease the fear of the unknown.
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Post by carly on Nov 10, 2016 15:30:28 GMT
I have heard of several situations now where people said racist things to other kids at school (my mom is a guidance counselor in Iowa and she said she heard of at least three different schools hat have had this happen now, and it was on the news that racist, anti-immigrant things were found in a MN high school). A friend of a friend was also the victim of a hate crime yesterday in which she was run off the road, called names for being a lesbian, and then they pulled out lighter fluid and a lighter and said, "go trump". These are real situations and people have real fear based on what trump has said and how people are acting it out. Maybe you can show this video to your kids and they will feel better, there is a bunch more just like it.
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Post by myboysnme on Nov 10, 2016 15:37:05 GMT
I live in the Boston area, and there was a news clip saying that a school in Boston is going to have counselors in the school today for any student or teacher that wants to talk about the election. Give me a break! I think since you asked to be given a break, you've got it. Peas are not raking you over the coals for your insensitivity and privileged stance.
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Post by anonrefugee on Nov 10, 2016 15:44:00 GMT
It seems too much but then again maybe a good idea! My friend has had to talk with her youngest two kids (kinder and 2nd grade). They're absolutely frightened their grandparents and others in their family will be sent back to Mexico.
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Post by pierkiss on Nov 10, 2016 15:44:15 GMT
I wonder how the people who are saying "man up" and "stop being such a sissy" when the reports of counsellors on school campuses come out feel about traditional talk therapy with psychologists? Are you so quick to dismiss your friends when they tell you they need to go see someone to talk about whatever it is in their lives that's troubeling or upsetting? Do you tell them to "grow up and get over it" whatever "it" is? If not, where do you draw the line? Why is it ok to say that about kids who are upset about the outcome of this election? Especially those who have legit fears about their families being split apart?
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Post by oliquig on Nov 10, 2016 15:45:02 GMT
My 15 yo nephew is ftm transgender. Yesterday was hard. It is hard to hear the elected president thinks your rights as an American don't matter as much as those who are straight/cisgender.
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Kerri W
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Post by Kerri W on Nov 10, 2016 15:51:03 GMT
I have heard of several situations now where people said racist things to other kids at school (my mom is a guidance counselor in Iowa and she said she heard of at least three different schools hat have had this happen now, and it was on the news that racist, anti-immigrant things were found in a MN high school). A friend of a friend was also the victim of a hate crime yesterday in which she was run off the road, called names for being a lesbian, and then they pulled out lighter fluid and a lighter and said, "go trump". These are real situations and people have real fear based on what trump has said and how people are acting it out. Maybe you can show this video to your kids and they will feel better, there is a bunch more just like it. What the actual fuck? Did I miss this person being a troll?
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Post by carly on Nov 10, 2016 15:52:26 GMT
Maybe you can show this video to your kids and they will feel better, there is a bunch more just like it. What the actual fuck? Did I miss this person being a troll? No, you missed this person voting for Trump. Miscalculation.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 10, 2016 15:53:18 GMT
I think for younger kids especially who maybe don't have the words to express what they're feeling, it's probably a really good thing for them to have someone at school to help talk with them about this stuff. As some of the Peas here have stated, their kids have very real anxiety over some of the things that they've heard and don't understand. My own first grader has came home from school saying things like "if he gets elected no one from other places can come here, and if she gets elected she will take all of our money." We then talked about how neither of those statements are true, and a little bit about how our branches of government work.
While I'm glad that I have a kid who readily tells me daily what is on her mind, I know from talking to the parents/ grandparents of some of her friends that they aren't all like that and some kids really do internalize this stuff. It's much better for them to have someone impartial that they can talk to if there is a need. Kids who are stressed out and worried about anything have a hard time learning.
ETA: It's also probably a good thing for the teachers too, based on how many teacher Peas have already said that they've had students in their classes dealing with these issues. It would be very beneficial for the teachers to have a professional counselor on site who can help them be of better service to their students that are feeling stressed.
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Post by casii on Nov 10, 2016 15:54:15 GMT
I have heard of several situations now where people said racist things to other kids at school (my mom is a guidance counselor in Iowa and she said she heard of at least three different schools hat have had this happen now, and it was on the news that racist, anti-immigrant things were found in a MN high school). A friend of a friend was also the victim of a hate crime yesterday in which she was run off the road, called names for being a lesbian, and then they pulled out lighter fluid and a lighter and said, "go trump". These are real situations and people have real fear based on what trump has said and how people are acting it out. Maybe you can show this video to your kids and they will feel better, there is a bunch more just like it. I'm sorry. How is this contributing to the OP? I agree that if 'I' am having difficulty processing the outcome of the election as a woman and victim of sexual abuse, I can imagine children, who belong to the groups which Trump and his supporters have targeted, may be even more so since they don't have the maturity and coping skills afforded adults. Compassion and a warm heart are a mark of strength, not signs of weakness.
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Post by missmiss on Nov 10, 2016 15:54:57 GMT
I have heard of several situations now where people said racist things to other kids at school (my mom is a guidance counselor in Iowa and she said she heard of at least three different schools hat have had this happen now, and it was on the news that racist, anti-immigrant things were found in a MN high school). A friend of a friend was also the victim of a hate crime yesterday in which she was run off the road, called names for being a lesbian, and then they pulled out lighter fluid and a lighter and said, "go trump". These are real situations and people have real fear based on what trump has said and how people are acting it out. Maybe you can show this video to your kids and they will feel better, there is a bunch more just like it. Yeah I mean both sides have their dregs of society. www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFCg6E30Npk
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Post by AnotherPea on Nov 10, 2016 15:57:57 GMT
I live in the Boston area, and there was a news clip saying that a school in Boston is going to have counselors in the school today for any student or teacher that wants to talk about the election. Give me a break! And that kind of thinking is what pushed so many people into voting for trump. For many, the DNC is synonymous with special snowflake syndrome. The recent stories of "safe places" at universities and such.
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Post by carly on Nov 10, 2016 16:01:28 GMT
Maybe you can show this video to your kids and they will feel better, there is a bunch more just like it. Yeah I mean both sides have their dregs of society. www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFCg6E30Npk
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