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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 19, 2016 3:11:21 GMT
I hope you did not take my post negatively. I had an incident once in a manic state where I needed to go to the hospital and I was so ashamed on myself and my behavior that I felt the need to personally contact the nurse that assisted me and apologize to her. I guess I just see it from my perspective that I would feel totally violated to be filmed and broadcast to millions. I know 1000% that I do not want to be recorded during a manic episode. I mean full manic state and all that happens. NO THANKS. I am there with you on that one! Maybe it was an intervention to get Shelley help. I don't know. We didn't get those details, right? They could have edited out a lot of it, too. She could be resisting treatment and this was an option. Who knows what went on in the negotiation. Dr. Phil was doing it for ratings-we know that. Maybe her family thought this was an attempt to get her into treatment by asking him. I think more information will be released about it this week. I hope you are right. I hope Dr. Phil gets so much blowback on this one that he needs to speak out and clarify just what his intentions were, how he got hooked up with her in the first place, etc. I want to hear from him because from my perspective this just looks cruel.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Nov 19, 2016 3:22:24 GMT
I am sure we will hear more about it this week. I am just guessing, though. I don't think he is helping the people who suffer from mental illnesses. He may think he is, but he would be wrong. Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz are very similar that way (in my mind). The all mighty ratings and dollar are what keep them at it. Their intentions may have been good at one time, but I don't believe in or watch either of them really. (Well at the gym because I have nothing better to do...)
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Post by happymomma on Nov 19, 2016 3:23:01 GMT
I'm glad she's getting some help. It seems nobody in her personal life was able to do so for many years. I, too, wish he hadn't televised her in this sad period of her life, but I guess that's how his show makes the money that they do, which in turn helps many others.
Normally, people reach out to him, not the other way around, and he does send them for extensive professional help. I wonder how she ended up in contact with him? It didn't seem like she initiated contact, so perhaps her loved ones did on her behalf? I did hear him speak of a boyfriend and some family members that he was working with to get her help local to her, as she refused treatment at the facility he sent her to.
Such a sad and disturbing story to watch. I pray she truly does get the help she needs, but I'm not predicting a lot of luck if she refuses to take any medicine.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 19, 2016 3:29:23 GMT
Delta Dawn, you and I both know an hour long show is not the way to treat mental illness. From what I have heard about this show and no I did not see it and am not a regular viewer, she needs serious inpatient treatment. I guess I'm just stunned really. And I'm embarrassed for her. If she gets it together and becomes lucid again I think she is really not going to be happy even if he is the catalyst for getting her the treatment she so desperately needs. I just think dr. Phil had the opportunity to do good here. But he did not need to show it on TV.
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Post by peasapie on Nov 19, 2016 3:58:57 GMT
I watched. My thoughts - I have a cousin who is schizophrenic. Shelley has a lot of the same symptoms. My cousin refused treatment for years, as many schizophrenics do not recognize they have a problem and you can't force a person to accept treatment or take medication. My cousin finally (after 10 years) agreed to take medicine and she is now almost 100 percent back to her old self first. I was hoping the same might be true for Shelley.
Her family may have reached out to Dr. Phil in a last ditch attempt to get her to accept some help. So as I watched I was thinking he might be televising it to help families of people with this disorder understand and help the person. However, he did very little in the way of explaining anything or offering the audience any insight -- and for that reason it did come across as being completely gratuitous to me. He could have helped her privately to the same end.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Nov 19, 2016 5:07:47 GMT
From what I have heard about this show and no I did not see it and am not a regular viewer, she needs serious inpatient treatment. I did not watch the show but read about it. Stanley Kubrick's daughter has started a GoFundMe and the money is going to be used to pay for mental health services for Duvall.
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