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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Nov 22, 2016 11:04:41 GMT
Yes, a vent.
Just one holiday. I would like just one holiday that can be assignment-free. One break that doesn't include research or poster board, or hours away from relaxing to do yet another contrived project.
One assignment is a written paper, that she is going to do before Thursday.
Okay, good.
But the other is a group project .
She has to meet up with her group at least once during break, to get everything together, as they are not being given the final directions until Wednesday!
Who plans this?
Don't many people travel for Thanksgiving? Isn't it ballsy to assume students can just put travel plans on hold so they can do yet another project?
/rant.
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Post by CeeScraps on Nov 22, 2016 11:10:41 GMT
I'm sorry......
I was sharing with my dh and dd how at Thanksgiving when I was in college we got a HUGE assignment the Monday prior to the holiday. It was due the Monday after the holiday. I spent the holiday working at a card table in my bedroom. I came out for meals. I worked in there because I could leave everything I was using out. It worked out well to do that.
It was an opening to the real world.
These past years I have worked through Christmas and New Year. The state releases information that I need and they do that about Christmas Eve. If I wait until after the holiday I am way behind. So, now I work in our office over the Christmas/New Year holiday.
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Post by Patter on Nov 22, 2016 11:26:04 GMT
Not sure how old your kiddos are but I am sorry. If it's elementary, yes, I would be a little put out. The upper grades I don't know about as we homeschooled. But like Ginger said, in college things will be due. My girls will be home today but all 3 have said they will be studying and working on assignments/projects. One daughter has SEVEN exams between next Thursday and the following Tuesday. Her head will be in books the entire holiday. Hubby wanted to take the family somewhere but we can't go. It's okay with me as at least we will all be under the same roof and I can steal a hug or kiss anytime I want.
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Post by monklady123 on Nov 22, 2016 11:33:19 GMT
I don't care what grade level it is, even college....a group project due right after a holiday is just cruel and unusual punishment. Well, personally I feel that ALL group projects are cruel and unusual punishment so perhaps that colors my opinion. But seriously, people travel for Thanksgiving and trying to get a group together during that time seems silly to me. Are they expecting you to cancel plans just for this project? I certainly don't think so. I might be emailing that teacher to point this out and ask "what other options are available for students who are traveling and cannot meet with a group of other students who are also traveling?" Don't ask "if" anything can be done about it, just ask "what other options" can she offer. That's just dumb.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Nov 22, 2016 11:39:23 GMT
The paper is one thing, but the group project over Thanksgiving is too much in my opinion. Especially considering they won't have all the information until Wednesday. I validate your rant.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Nov 22, 2016 11:49:28 GMT
The paper is one thing, but the group project over Thanksgiving is too much in my opinion. Especially considering they won't have all the information until Wednesday. I validate your rant. Me too! Schools here are closed on Wed. but I know a lot of people taking off early today to beat the rush. That is crazy! In 6th grade my daughter had a project to interview a family member who was not of their or their parent's generation. It was assigned over Thanksgiving and they used the Story Corps app to record the interviews. That was a great Thanksgiving project, but if not something like that I say no homework over Thanksgiving. I am okay with it over the winter break... 2 weeks is enough time to get some school work done and not impinge on family time.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Nov 22, 2016 12:25:56 GMT
A group project over break is .
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Post by littlemama on Nov 22, 2016 12:43:48 GMT
That is lousy, but maybe it won't be a huge deal. Wait until it's assigned and then see if it is even a real assignment. My ds is in college, and the test that was scheduled in one class for the Monday after break was switched to the Wednesday after.
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Post by johnnysmom on Nov 22, 2016 13:14:06 GMT
Hopefully it won't be as much work as it seems. Ds told me last night that the basketball coach asked if he wanted to come in and practice on Thanksgiving Day First year coach, 20 years old so no meal to cook and he's really taking ds under his wing because he sees potential. Depending on time we can probably make it work but I had to laugh a little when he told me.
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Post by nicoleq on Nov 22, 2016 13:28:40 GMT
The paper is one thing, but the group project over Thanksgiving is too much in my opinion. Especially considering they won't have all the information until Wednesday. I validate your rant. I agree!! A group project over Thanksgiving weekend is ridiculous. Seriously?!?! There isn't any other time in Fall or Winter term it can be assigned? It seems obvious the teacher knows exactly what they are doing, too, since they won't hand it out until Wednesday and it's due Monday. I'm usually really supportive of teacher decisions, even if I disagree, but this one has me mad! And it's not even my kid!! Lol!
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Post by blue tulip on Nov 22, 2016 13:54:07 GMT
The paper is one thing, but the group project over Thanksgiving is too much in my opinion. Especially considering they won't have all the information until Wednesday. I validate your rant. Me too! Schools here are closed on Wed. but I know a lot of people taking off early today to beat the rush. That is crazy! In 6th grade my daughter had a project to interview a family member who was not of their or their parent's generation. It was assigned over Thanksgiving and they used the Story Corps app to record the interviews. That was a great Thanksgiving project, but if not something like that I say no homework over Thanksgiving. I am okay with it over the winter break... 2 weeks is enough time to get some school work done and not impinge on family time. my son is in 6th grade and he just finished that same assignment! it was really interesting for him. but no, I wouldn't have minded him interviewing grandma at thanksgiving, as it's something of a bonding/family experience. not something that isolates him in a room studying or doing homework.
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Post by Anita on Nov 22, 2016 14:03:36 GMT
I'm sorry. I missed many holidays because of assignments in college. There's just no reason for a group project over a holiday in elementary school. None.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 14:33:00 GMT
Unless you are traveling, I do not see the big deal. They are off Thurs-Sun. Plenty of time. Traveling group project members need to speak up today/tomorrow and let the teacher know the logistics.
It would help in my district if they actually attended school for a full GD week in November.
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Post by epeanymous on Nov 22, 2016 14:40:08 GMT
I validate you. Group projects with kids also mean that the kids probably need parents to port them around over the holiday so that the kids can work together, so the assignment isn't just dictating your kid's holiday, but yours as well to some extent.
I am a professor and I don't give assignments (other than the ordinary reading my students always do for class) over holidays. Sure, sometimes in actual life holidays are consumed by work, but in my experience, there are very few academic emergencies that require essays to be written over a break.
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Post by quiltedbrain on Nov 22, 2016 14:44:52 GMT
I, too, validate your rant! Projects over breaks tick me off. We do everything we can to have our child in school every day that the school is open (i.e. not scheduling vacations during the school year, scheduling healthcare appointments away from school hours). I don't think it's asking too much for a project to not be assigned over the few times a year a student is on break. Sometimes I feel like we handed control over our schedule to the school system when our child entered kindergarten and we'll get it back when she graduates--
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Post by myshelly on Nov 22, 2016 14:45:46 GMT
That is awful. And ridiculous.
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Post by annabella on Nov 22, 2016 14:57:38 GMT
Unless you are traveling, I do not see the big deal. They are off Thurs-Sun. Plenty of time. Traveling group project members need to speak up today/tomorrow and let the teacher know the logistics. It would help in my district if they actually attended school for a full GD week in November. I remember in college asking my professor to change the date a 10 page paper was due from before Thanksgiving to after. Initially he said no, but then announced to the class he changed his mind. I appreciated having all that free time to write the paper at home. Can't they facetime/group text for the project? Will everyone be in town?
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Nov 22, 2016 15:01:06 GMT
That stinks. That said, I would coach DD to get the group together immediately following school on Wednesday. They can map out the assignments and each complete their part. If they have to, they could get together again on Sunday night (to address the kid(s) who doesn't do their part, because there is always one or more).
You said they won't get the final assignment. Do they already have a good idea about what is coming? Enough to get started?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 15:01:33 GMT
Sometimes I feel like we handed control over our schedule to the school system when our child entered kindergarten and we'll get it back when she graduates-- We handed ours over to the teacher's union. The tail that wags the dog in WNY.
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Post by lemondrop on Nov 22, 2016 15:17:02 GMT
I think kids (and adults!) all need a break and that includes a break from homework and projects. I'm sorry, OP, that really stinks, especially the group project.
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Post by lemondrop on Nov 22, 2016 15:22:38 GMT
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Post by Linda on Nov 22, 2016 15:30:02 GMT
In 6th grade my daughter had a project to interview a family member who was not of their or their parent's generation. It was assigned over Thanksgiving and they used the Story Corps app to record the interviews. That IS a really cool project but my kids would struggle with it - they have exactly two family members that are from an older generation than DH and I - their 99 y/o Great-Grandmum who lives several hours away and has dementia and their 80y/o grandmother who lives many states away and isn't good with phone calls OR technology. Unless of course, they could interview someone from a generation AFTER theirs? Because there are TWO more generations after them (ie their 1st cousins are grandparents)
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Post by RosieKat on Nov 22, 2016 15:34:14 GMT
The group project thing really stinks. I'm sorry.
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Post by salem on Nov 22, 2016 15:38:33 GMT
Total bullshit. It would be bad enough if it was just a project MY kid had to complete, but to make it a group thing where you are trying to coordinate around entire family schedules on a holiday where many people travel. No way. I'm very much a parent that goes with the flow and believes most teachers should run their classrooms as they see fit, but they already assign homework, vacation projects, reading over the Summer and as some said group projects when the kids aren't driving and parents have to cart them around. How much more do they want?
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Post by tduby1 on Nov 22, 2016 15:47:12 GMT
We travel over Thanksgiving and the group project would totally undoable.
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Post by Patter on Nov 22, 2016 15:50:44 GMT
That is GREAT! I am sending that to my girls. They despise group projects.
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Post by Zee on Nov 22, 2016 15:54:36 GMT
The paper is one thing, but the group project over Thanksgiving is too much in my opinion. Especially considering they won't have all the information until Wednesday. I validate your rant. Me too!
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Post by pierkiss on Nov 22, 2016 16:07:06 GMT
Hopefully it won't be as much work as it seems. Ds told me last night that the basketball coach asked if he wanted to come in and practice on Thanksgiving Day First year coach, 20 years old so no meal to cook and he's really taking ds under his wing because he sees potential. Depending on time we can probably make it work but I had to laugh a little when he told me. Please do yourselves and this new coach a favor and say no. Say no to this for your own sanity, and to preserve having this holiday off from school and extra curricular activities. And say no to the coach so that he learns right from the get-go that it is inappropriate to hold a practice on a holiday. Everyone complains about insane coaches and their rigorous schedules that don't account for school breaks and holidays. And his is exactly where that mentality starts. He's asking now, as he's new and inexperienced at coaching, and is probably bored on thanksgiving. But if you say yes to this practice, this absolutely sets the stage for this sort of request to be okay and tolerable within his team. And he will be more likely to do it in the future if you say yes now. And eventually it will get to a point where these are not just for fun practices, but instead mandatory practices. People don't like to say no to their coaches, they don't want to let him/her down, nor the team down. So they will feel pressure to say yes, even though hey don't want to go, or cannot go because they already have plans.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Nov 22, 2016 16:09:04 GMT
In 6th grade my daughter had a project to interview a family member who was not of their or their parent's generation. It was assigned over Thanksgiving and they used the Story Corps app to record the interviews. That IS a really cool project but my kids would struggle with it - they have exactly two family members that are from an older generation than DH and I - their 99 y/o Great-Grandmum who lives several hours away and has dementia and their 80y/o grandmother who lives many states away and isn't good with phone calls OR technology. Unless of course, they could interview someone from a generation AFTER theirs? Because there are TWO more generations after them (ie their 1st cousins are grandparents) It wasn't easy for my daughter either because I am an "older" mom... but plenty of kids did aunts, uncles or cousins... the generation thing was more of a guideline instead of a requirement. It was good for my daughter to get out of her comfort zone!
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Post by Rhondito on Nov 22, 2016 16:23:40 GMT
Unless you are traveling, I do not see the big deal. They are off Thurs-Sun. Plenty of time. Then what's the point of even having a break? Things like this infuriate me. I'm really hoping it turns out of be a joke of sorts - that the assignment will be something super super easy.
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