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Post by Zee on Jan 15, 2017 3:14:56 GMT
My DH's last job in the Air Force was at the Drug Testing lab. He studied up on all the drugs and their affects. He tells our kids all the time that they can never ever take Heroin or Meth. It just takes once to addict. We talk about different drugs and what they do to the body a lot at our house. I think he is trying to scare them out of ever considering it. I know the opioids to Heroin is a huge problem in our state. DS just had his appendix out, part of his pain management was an Rx for a narcotic. I don't remember which one, it was in the morphine family though He got 30 pills. along with 90 pills of ibuprofen. Both bottles are still nearly full as he only needed pain relief for about two days. We felt like they were being unnecessarily liberal with the pain meds. This is a good point. Do you really need to give someone a 30 day prescription for pain meds when they are likely to recover in just a few days? 30 pills, not 30 days. It was probably vicodin or Percocet and probably ordered 1-2 tabs every 4-6 hours, which is certainly not excessive for a grown man post-surgery. Thanks to those who've abused pain medication, you're now looked at as a drug seeker if you need pain pills, but I do agree they were vastly over-prescribed for a while in the 90s/until very recently. It's a huge epidemic. |
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Post by lisae on Jan 15, 2017 3:21:38 GMT
This is a good point. Do you really need to give someone a 30 day prescription for pain meds when they are likely to recover in just a few days? 30 pills, not 30 days. It was probably vicodin or Percocet and probably ordered 1-2 tabs every 4-6 hours, which is certainly not excessive for a grown man post-surgery. Thanks to those who've abused pain medication, you're now looked at as a drug seeker if you need pain pills, but I do agree they were vastly over-prescribed for a while in the 90s/until very recently. It's a huge epidemic. Oops, sorry, I didn't read carefully enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 4:26:43 GMT
I am so so sorry. I have seen this through one of my best friends who lost her young niece a few years ago. Her niece had two tiny babies but that didn't save her. The babies' dad is in jail. It's just wrenching all around. PBS Frontline did an pheonomenal job of showing this epidemic up close: www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/chasing-heroin/ I recommend watching it. I think we're losing a generation thanks to the vapidity of our culture, the glorification of style over substance and the lack of teaching kids about dealing with pain. When we don't teach how to deal with pain, people reach for alcohol, drugs and other addictions. And, as an addiction, heroin is merciless and doesn't discriminate. |
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Post by Peal on Jan 15, 2017 5:33:34 GMT
This is a good point. Do you really need to give someone a 30 day prescription for pain meds when they are likely to recover in just a few days? 30 pills, not 30 days. It was probably vicodin or Percocet and probably ordered 1-2 tabs every 4-6 hours, which is certainly not excessive for a grown man post-surgery.Thanks to those who've abused pain medication, you're now looked at as a drug seeker if you need pain pills, but I do agree they were vastly over-prescribed for a while in the 90s/until very recently. It's a huge epidemic. He's home for the weekend so I asked him. It was Narco, which is hydrocodone for those who don't know. He thinks he took 5 in total over 3 days. |
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Post by sillyrabbit on Jan 15, 2017 5:39:06 GMT
My son is a recovering heroin addict. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. He was a varsity baseball player in high school, National Honor Society, had a girl friend and was very popular and kind. Everyone loved him, including teachers. His dad and I have been happily married for nearly three decades, brought him up in the church and stayed totally plugged in to him and his friends. I spoke to him about drugs from as young as I can remember. It was always my biggest fear for my kids. Yet, it still happened. If it happened to my son, it can happen to yours. And make no mistake, it is the devil in every way imaginable. We are losing a generation and it kills me. I wish the best for your son. Such a terrible battle that your whole family is dealing with. I hope he stays strong in his recovery. Your son sounds like the All American kid. That is the scariest part. It's not only the kids that everyone knows are doing drugs in the back parking lots of school and in the bathrooms, when they're supposed to be in class. It's also the kids that seem to have it all together and are going places, and then they get hooked... I have two girls. One is a teen, the other is 9. It is my biggest fear for my children also. That's the terrifying part...we thought we were doing everything right. We are a truly happy family. DH and I have a wonderful marriage, and we were and still are active and involved parents. It seems like once DS started driving and had a bit more freedom he just got into the wrong crowd and made bad choices. And we still didn't know. He had a curfew and always made it home on time. Then one day (literally the day after his senior prom), the blinders were yanked off. We have been battling for 4 years now, and it's a battle I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. But we are hopeful and will never give up on him. And what's maybe the silver lining in all of this is that my relationship with DS is the most honest and closest that it's ever been. I don't recommend addiction as the method to get close to your child though.  |
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Post by anniefb on Jan 15, 2017 8:15:00 GMT
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Post by craftykitten on Jan 15, 2017 11:06:03 GMT
So sorry, to all of you who have struggled with this in your families.
I've had serious pain relief after major surgeries. Honestly? I can understand why people get addicted. The feelings were good. I am probably just lucky that the part of my brain that knew it was a bad path were loud enough for me to hear.
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Post by peasapie on Jan 15, 2017 13:43:07 GMT
I wish the best for your son. Such a terrible battle that your whole family is dealing with. I hope he stays strong in his recovery. Your son sounds like the All American kid. That is the scariest part. It's not only the kids that everyone knows are doing drugs in the back parking lots of school and in the bathrooms, when they're supposed to be in class. It's also the kids that seem to have it all together and are going places, and then they get hooked... I have two girls. One is a teen, the other is 9. It is my biggest fear for my children also. That's the terrifying part...we thought we were doing everything right. We are a truly happy family. DH and I have a wonderful marriage, and we were and still are active and involved parents. It seems like once DS started driving and had a bit more freedom he just got into the wrong crowd and made bad choices. And we still didn't know. He had a curfew and always made it home on time. Then one day (literally the day after his senior prom), the blinders were yanked off. We have been battling for 4 years now, and it's a battle I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. But we are hopeful and will never give up on him. And what's maybe the silver lining in all of this is that my relationship with DS is the most honest and closest that it's ever been. I don't recommend addiction as the method to get close to your child though. Yes and yes. Good families. Involved parents. It's a terrible drug that sneaks in under the fence and steals more lives than anyone knows. We taught our children to scream if someone tries to abduct them, but this is a thief that's harder to teach about. |
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Post by Zee on Jan 15, 2017 15:43:51 GMT
30 pills, not 30 days. It was probably vicodin or Percocet and probably ordered 1-2 tabs every 4-6 hours, which is certainly not excessive for a grown man post-surgery.Thanks to those who've abused pain medication, you're now looked at as a drug seeker if you need pain pills, but I do agree they were vastly over-prescribed for a while in the 90s/until very recently. It's a huge epidemic. He's home for the weekend so I asked him. It was Narco, which is hydrocodone for those who don't know. He thinks he took 5 in total over 3 days. That's Norco, which is hydrocodone, which is the same as Vicodin. And I'm glad his pain was not bad enough to need them all! |
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Post by quinlove on Jan 15, 2017 17:39:30 GMT
He's home for the weekend so I asked him. It was Narco, which is hydrocodone for those who don't know. He thinks he took 5 in total over 3 days. That's Norco, which is hydrocodone, which is the same as Vicodin. And I'm glad his pain was not bad enough to need them all! I may be totally wrong here, that's why I am asking. I've always been under the assumption that if you were in serious pain and took the pain pills prescribed for that pain, that you would not have a problem. The problem is when you continue to take the pain pills when you are no longer needing them. Lots of people have told me that they don't want to become addicted to pain pills, so they don't take them when the pain they are suffering warrants it. So I tell them , unless they have had a previous problem with pain pills in the past, taking prescribed pain pills when you seriously need them shouldn't be a problem. Am I totally wrong on this thinking ? |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 15, 2017 18:03:17 GMT
That's Norco, which is hydrocodone, which is the same as Vicodin. And I'm glad his pain was not bad enough to need them all! I may be totally wrong here, that's why I am asking. I've always been under the assumption that if you were in serious pain and took the pain pills prescribed for that pain, that you would not have a problem. The problem is when you continue to take the pain pills when you are no longer needing them. Lots of people have told me that they don't want to become addicted to pain pills, so they don't take them when the pain they are suffering warrants it. So I tell them , unless they have had a previous problem with pain pills in the past, taking prescribed pain pills when you seriously need them shouldn't be a problem. Am I totally wrong on this thinking ? I read an article a while back that talked about one of the pharmaceutical companies changing their formulation to provide a "longer lasting" pain pill that significantly increased dependency - even for those taking as prescribed. It was a highly critical article as the change was made for marketing/patent running out purposes and the risk of addiction was way too high to justify. I'll see if I can find it. |
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Post by quinlove on Jan 15, 2017 19:01:46 GMT
Thanks for replying. I guess I am going with old information. Everything is always changing and not always for the best. Thanks for the info.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 15, 2017 19:45:55 GMT
Hugs to you both sillyrabbit and momstime. What a terrible thing to have to suffer with your children. I cannot imagine the kind of worry and stress this must cause. |
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