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Post by elaine on Jun 6, 2017 21:32:59 GMT
I have no doubt regarding the findings of the study. Which is incredibly depressing and wrong.
And, I would also add that one's interpersonal communication style also impacts how one is treated, regardless of race.
If the OP speaks to people IRL as she does here, I would not be surprised if she received less-than-polite responses/treatment in return.
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Post by Really Red on Jun 6, 2017 22:12:41 GMT
My niece lives in an all-Black neighborhood in Chicago. She was recently robbed and the police said it wasn't even worth their time to go there. WTF? I'm sorry Olan I really do think it's dependent on where you live. I don't doubt your study, and it's clearly a problem everywhere, but I think where you live can make a big difference. I live in a neighborhood where it's roughly 60% white and 40% Black and I socialize with my neighbors a lot. We talk about this stuff all the time. There are a lot of problems Black people have in my city, but the police is not one of them.
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Post by Olan on Jun 6, 2017 22:21:38 GMT
I have no doubt regarding the findings of the study. Which is incredibly depressing and wrong. And, I would also add that one's interpersonal communication style also impacts how one is treated, regardless of race. If the OP speaks to people IRL as she does here, I would not be surprised if she received less-than-polite responses/treatment in return. It would be a death wish to speak with disrespect to an officer as a black woman. I would venture to guess no one does this. With that sad fact aside your perception of me is guided in large part because I am a black woman. I'm no more or no less angry or surly than any other pea here. We also know that white criminals can behave any way they'd like and still receive better treatment than black criminals. Black people have been placated for a long time with this idea that if you are respectful and not a criminal you shouldn't have any problems interacting with police but then men in stalled cars and with licenses to carry are shot with no justice you realize that isn't the truth. I think a lot of white people are like elaine (Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling) and believe that the mistreatment of black people is warranted and could be prevented if black people behaved differently. Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling 2peas NSBR Special Education Parent Liaison Ohio State University Never apologized. Continued harassment/antagonistic behavior. Search Engine Optimization Let’s see how your next job search goes Elaine Wohlgemuth Shilling.
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Post by Olan on Jun 6, 2017 22:46:11 GMT
My niece lives in an all-Black neighborhood in Chicago. She was recently robbed and the police said it wasn't even worth their time to go there. WTF? I'm sorry Olan I really do think it's dependent on where you live. I don't doubt your study, and it's clearly a problem everywhere, but I think where you live can make a big difference. I live in a neighborhood where it's roughly 60% white and 40% Black and I socialize with my neighbors a lot. We talk about this stuff all the time. There are a lot of problems Black people have in my city, but the police is not one of them. Chicago is Chicago. Not all black people live in Chicago or neighborhoods like it. Balch Springs Police Department killed a kid. Thats Texas. In the 'burbs.
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Post by imsirius on Jun 6, 2017 22:54:28 GMT
I have no doubt regarding the findings of the study. Which is incredibly depressing and wrong. And, I would also add that one's interpersonal communication style also impacts how one is treated, regardless of race. If the OP speaks to people IRL as she does here, I would not be surprised if she received less-than-polite responses/treatment in return. It would be a death wish to speak with disrespect to an officer as a black woman. I would venture to guess no one does this. With that sad fact aside your perception of me is guided in large part because I am a black woman. I'm no more or no less angry or surly than any other pea here. We also know that white criminals can behave any way they'd like and still receive better treatment than black criminals. Black people have been placated for a long time with this idea that if you are respectful and not a criminal you shouldn't have any problems interacting with police but then men in stalled cars and with licenses to carry are shot with no justice you realize that isn't the truth. I think a lot of white people are like elaine and believe that the mistreatment of black people is warranted and could be prevented if black people behaved differently. I can't even believe you wrote this! I can believe Elaine, and many, many other peas', (myself included) only perception of you is that you play victim better than anyone on the board. Your attitude, NOT YOUR SKIN COLOUR is why they feel they way they do. Nothing more. SMH
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Post by elaine on Jun 6, 2017 23:05:01 GMT
I have no doubt regarding the findings of the study. Which is incredibly depressing and wrong. And, I would also add that one's interpersonal communication style also impacts how one is treated, regardless of race. If the OP speaks to people IRL as she does here, I would not be surprised if she received less-than-polite responses/treatment in return. It would be a death wish to speak with disrespect to an officer as a black woman. I would venture to guess no one does this. With that sad fact aside your perception of me is guided in large part because I am a black woman. I'm no more or no less angry or surly than any other pea here. We also know that white criminals can behave any way they'd like and still receive better treatment than black criminals. Black people have been placated for a long time with this idea that if you are respectful and not a criminal you shouldn't have any problems interacting with police but then men in stalled cars and with licenses to carry are shot with no justice you realize that isn't the truth. I think a lot of white people are like elaine and believe that the mistreatment of black people is warranted and could be prevented if black people behaved differently. Your reading comprehension is equal to Trump's. Please find one single sentence that I have ever uttered, here or anywhere else, that supports your miscomprehension of my words about the reality of the horrors of the mistreatment of African Americans in the USA. You, regardless of whether you are white, black, or purple, have been a royal &itch to me, including recent comments about my taste in clothing. I have little respect for you because of your words/behavior, I don't care what ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation you are. You have been nasty to a number of people here, without provocation from me and others. Be a grown woman and own it.
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Post by Olan on Jun 6, 2017 23:23:34 GMT
Please prove to me anywhere where I have EVER said black people deserve disrespect or mistreatment? You will be searching a looong time sister, You don't even know me, have never seen a photo of me. Your assumptions are fucking laughable. Hmmm? You could start by showing me where I've accused you of saying black people deserve mistreatment? I did not. You should apologize for your misunderstanding and crude language. I'm addressing elaine and her comments. I wasn't even speaking to you. I'm not your sister. I've never claimed to know you and don't need to see a photo of you. What are you even talking about? You seem hell bent on reading into what I've said to someone else so right ahead. I will not try to stop you. I stand by what I've said and did not accuse a single pea of anything they didn't express in text that I then quoted. imsirius What are you trying to accomplish? I'm always puzzled by interactions like this. Its fucking text on a screen not he said she said. "And what a sad thing to be a black person in America and to know how much your ancestors have contributed to this country, only to have the majority of Americans prioritized the mistreatment of animals over the mistreatment of black bodies. This feeling is also common" Olan My response to elaine the one that imsirius wants to get all up in arms about. HA I have no doubt regarding the findings of the study. Which is incredibly depressing and wrong.
And, I would also add that one's interpersonal communication style also impacts how one is treated, regardless of race.
If the OP speaks to people IRL as she does here, I would not be surprised if she received less-than-polite responses/treatment in return.
"It would be a death wish to speak with disrespect to an officer as a black woman. I would venture to guess no one does this. With that sad fact aside your perception of me is guided in large part because I am a black woman. I'm no more or no less angry or surly than any other pea here. We also know that white criminals can behave any way they'd like and still receive better treatment than black criminals. Black people have been placated for a long time with this idea that if you are respectful and not a criminal you shouldn't have any problems interacting with police but then men in stalled cars and with licenses to carry are shot with no justice you realize that isn't the truth. I think a lot of white people are like elaine and believe that the mistreatment of black people is warranted and could be prevented if black people behaved differently." OlanIf I were not a black woman I'm fairly confident my cause would be conservation/animals. Unfortunately for me I can't concern myself with the mistreatment of animals because the future of my own child is uncertain. Also I did not make a comparison between humans and animals I responded to Mizindependent who said "I know what you mean. I wish people were more passionate about proper treatment of animals (dogs in particular), but that's just where I'm at personally." MizIndependent comment reads a certain way. I'm sure just as she intended it.
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Post by Olan on Jun 7, 2017 4:07:20 GMT
I am not jumping in on personal issues people have with one another. I am going to speak only to the OP. in my area a white councilman called another African American member "boy" during the same night anti-hate resolution was being proposed. This comes on the heels of a black student being killed at UMD and the white killer was from our town. On the heels of nooses being placed at a neighboring middle school. There is absolutely a lack of respect for many in the black community from some in law enforcement. Then there is suspicion and caution, then negative interactions, and the cycle continues. A lot of peas think they have personal issues with me but from henceforth they will have no worries. Released ha! Not another acklowedgement from me. It's the same characters each time. And with the same damn tactics. It would be nice to have "allies" call out the foolishness but it's really no skin off my back. I am firmly planted in a place where someone's opinion of my Internet persona can't touch me. Bigger fish to fry. That county has major issues. Those men are trying to fight the hate crime claim with their lawyer calling it a high school prank. I have no doubt the defense will work. The black student (graduate if he had lived) was an officer in the Army. In my opinion the way the state of Maryland marked his tragic death sucked. Add insult to injury Welby Burgone (AA Police Department) and Matt Worth (of Sandy Springs Utah) congratulated their classmate on killing this man. Burgone will probably be brought back on by AA County despite my daily calls. Either that or Delaware police will hire him. And he will undoubtedly pull over an African American citizen at some point in his career. Urbanski' (2nd Lt. Richard Collins III's killer) mother is employed at UofM. Her son killed a kid on campus and sat in court and asked he be released on bail. He needs substance abuse counseling they said ummm okay. Something is incredibly wrong in the very fabric of that community. Sidewalk chalk will not fix it.
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Post by Olan on Aug 13, 2017 15:25:40 GMT
I have no doubt regarding the findings of the study. Which is incredibly depressing and wrong. And, I would also add that one's interpersonal communication style also impacts how one is treated, regardless of race. If the OP speaks to people IRL as she does here, I would not be surprised if she received less-than-polite responses/treatment in return. Instead of liking comments I'll begin bumping the thread with the quoted pea. Also an update to this thread: Baltimore Police
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Post by Olan on Oct 11, 2017 12:11:54 GMT
I have no doubt regarding the findings of the study. Which is incredibly depressing and wrong. And, I would also add that one's interpersonal communication style also impacts how one is treated, regardless of race. If the OP speaks to people IRL as she does here, I would not be surprised if she received less-than-polite responses/treatment in return. It would be a death wish to speak with disrespect to an officer as a black woman. I would venture to guess no one does this. With that sad fact aside your perception of me is guided in large part because I am a black woman. I'm no more or no less angry or surly than any other pea here. We also know that white criminals can behave any way they'd like and still receive better treatment than black criminals. Black people have been placated for a long time with this idea that if you are respectful and not a criminal you shouldn't have any problems interacting with police but then men in stalled cars and with licenses to carry are shot with no justice you realize that isn't the truth. I think a lot of white people are like elaine and believe that the mistreatment of black people is warranted and could be prevented if black people behaved differently. elaine What synagogue supports this sentiment in 2017?
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Post by not2peased on Apr 12, 2018 0:43:16 GMT
I have no doubt regarding the findings of the study. Which is incredibly depressing and wrong. And, I would also add that one's interpersonal communication style also impacts how one is treated, regardless of race. If the OP speaks to people IRL as she does here, I would not be surprised if she received less-than-polite responses/treatment in return. It would be a death wish to speak with disrespect to an officer as a black woman. I would venture to guess no one does this. With that sad fact aside your perception of me is guided in large part because I am a black woman. I'm no more or no less angry or surly than any other pea here. We also know that white criminals can behave any way they'd like and still receive better treatment than black criminals. Black people have been placated for a long time with this idea that if you are respectful and not a criminal you shouldn't have any problems interacting with police but then men in stalled cars and with licenses to carry are shot with no justice you realize that isn't the truth. I think a lot of white people are like elaine and believe that the mistreatment of black people is warranted and could be prevented if black people behaved differently. I believe the information the OP posted is true and I'm actually a bit surprised that anyone still thinks that minorities are treated the same as white people in encounters with police-generally speaking of course and my opinion is not meant to disparage anyone in law enforcement who truly is color blind.it's not a scientific study, but I notice on police shows the interactions with poor people & people of color are often very different than they are with more affluent and/or white people. I've seen it in a much more limited basis out and about in my community and when traveling to other places. The tone is different, the demeanor is different, and IMO, you can easily see how a situation can escalate due to poor communication. that said, it's my arm chair opinion and not one based on research or science. Having read information about research re: bias I am not at all surprised to see studies bearing out what many of us already know/see.
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Post by georgiapea on Oct 16, 2020 22:41:10 GMT
Olan, you singlehandedly further racism every time you flap your yap, every single day. No doubt everyone who encounters you IRL feels the same way.
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Post by Olan on Oct 16, 2020 23:31:56 GMT
Olan, you singlehandedly further racism every time you flap your yap, every single day. No doubt everyone who encounters you IRL feels the same way. Wow okay. I’m hearing you say racist people who encounter me IRL are justified in their racist thoughts. Is that correct? I further racism as a black woman each day?! I’d ask you how but I’m sure such a dumb thought couldn’t be developed enough in your own head to explain. What happened in this thread is clear as day. Peas are quick to call me a jerk and tell me my lived experience is something I’m deserving of....but what does everyone think of how peas spoke to me in this thread and many others. The way the peas have related to me says a lot about how black women are treated offline. America’s resistance to simply Listening to black women speak without policing the tone or making it personal. My signature is my post history. That’s how strongly I feel about standing by the things I’ve said here. You can’t go into a thread of mine without some pea talking about my history here at 2peas like I’m some troll who went around personally attacking everyone. No basis for it but it goes over as fact every time. I’m only guilty of bringing topics to this board that society as a whole needed to be discussing. If you don’t like me it’s because you wished I shut my yap like Miss Georgia. Silencing black women. Shut up and accept the mistreatment. Also If you are an ally and you watched how I have been handled and think it was FAIR...ummm please reconsider your allyship status. Same thing if you’ve read your comments to Olan and in October 2020 still stand by them. There is something to be said about being wrong and acknowledging it. I don’t read private messages because of how much vitriol (look at what she was comfortable saying publicly) can be found in many of them so please don’t take this as an invite. It isn’t. Just a placeholder for future generations. That you had the opportunity and didn’t.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 16, 2020 23:47:36 GMT
Olan, you singlehandedly further racism every time you flap your yap, every single day. No doubt everyone who encounters you IRL feels the same way. Wow okay. I’m hearing you say racist people who encounter me IRL are justified in their racist thoughts. Is that correct? I further racism as a black woman each day?! I’d ask you how but I’m sure such a dumb thought couldn’t be developed enough in your own head to explain. What happened in this thread is clear as day. Peas are quick to call me a jerk and tell me my lived experience is something I’m deserving of....but what does everyone think of how peas spoke to me in this thread and many others. The way the peas have related to me says a lot about how black women are treated offline. America’s resistance to simply Listening to black women speak without policing the tone or making it personal. My signature is my post history. That’s how strongly I feel about standing by the things I’ve said here. You can’t go into a thread of mine without some pea talking about my history here at 2peas like I’m some troll who went around personally attacking everyone. No basis for it but it goes over as fact every time. I’m only guilty of bringing topics to this board that society as a whole needed to be discussing. If you don’t like me it’s because you wished I shut my yap like Miss Georgia. Silencing black women. Shut up and accept the mistreatment. Also If you are an ally and you watched how I have been handled and think it was FAIR...ummm please reconsider your allyship status. Same thing if you’ve read your comments to Olan and in October 2020 still stand by them. There is something to be said about being wrong and acknowledging it. I don’t read private messages because of how much vitriol (look at what she was comfortable saying publicly) can be found in many of them so please don’t take this as an invite. It isn’t. Just a placeholder for future generations. That you had the opportunity and didn’t. Always the victim. You’d win the Victimhood if the Year award if there was ever such a thing. People don’t like you or think you’re a jerk or whatever term you will eventually twist because of the shitty crap you pull —from baiting, twisting or lying about what a pea has said. And not one of those things has anything to do with the color of your skin either. And your pathetic claim that you’re not invested in your online persona is a big fat lie wrapped in bullshit. You’re queen of the spreadsheet linking back to posts. Lizcreates said it best on the other thread where she called you out on your asshattery.
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