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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 14:58:59 GMT
Politico...
"Haley: Trump told Putin 'we know you did it, and cut it out' politi.co/2tDwiVY"
Wishful thinking on your part is causing you to get trump confused with President Obama.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 15:06:03 GMT
Chris Lu...
"Never thought I'd say this, but Kobach's voter fraud commission is now just the second dumbest idea to protect our elections"
In response to this trump tweet..
"Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded.."
Unfortunately the current White House is pretty much full of ideas.
🦊 in the 🐔 house.
🚫 #MAGA!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 15:21:52 GMT
From David Fahrenthold...
"White House Chief of Staff Priebus on Fox, about @realdonaldtrump: "He was a star in Hamburg. And no one can take that away."
I sure hope Priebus thinks this job is worth it after selling his soul to the devil to get it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 15:44:09 GMT
This tweet from GOP Chairwoma Ronna McDaniel..
"The @gop cares about every American & wants them to have every opportunity to succeed, but bigger gov is not the way to do it. #MTP"
Prompted this response from Charlie White -Ice Skater
"Taking healthcare away from millions of Americans while simultaneously cutting taxes for the richest is a strange way to show you care."
Has a point.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 15:55:20 GMT
Kyle Griffin.. "McCain on US/Russia cyber task force: "I am sure that Putin could be of enormous assistance to that effort since he's doing the hacking." ![](http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r481/2peasrefugees/Smilies/roflmao.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 17:22:19 GMT
linkThe picture in the link says a thousand words. Sad for this country.
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Post by peano on Jul 9, 2017 17:31:39 GMT
From Politico: President tweets at 7:50 am: "Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded.." ... at 7:57 a.m.: "..and safe.
Love the responses. Marco Rubio: "Partnering with Putin on a 'Cyber Security Unit' is akin to partnering with Assad on a 'Chemical Weapons Unit'.
Lindsey Graham: 'It's not the dumbest idea I've ever heard, but it's pretty close.'
And my personal favorite from Preet Bharara: "When pursuing a corrupt politician, mobster or murderer on strong FBI evidence, if he 'vehemently denied. it,' we just dropped it usually."
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Post by pyccku on Jul 9, 2017 19:31:55 GMT
It's great that all of these people are saying these things. But when will any of them be willing to DO something?
I can't help thinking that Putin and his cronies are all sitting over there laughing at how unbelievably stupid we are being.
I feel like it's a scenario when a group of people have been friends with a guy for 5 years and the guy is always going to Broadway musicals, likes to bathe in bath houses, can sing along to every one of the Village People's songs, flies a rainbow flag and when he comes out every single person isn't at all surprised - except for that one guy who says "REALLY? Are you SERIOUS? I had NO IDEA you were gay - I just thought you liked music and baths and rainbows!"
I truly do believe that if he got behind the podium and announced that he had been working with Putin to MAGA and the only way to do that was to cheat, but it's OK because Putin is a good friend and we're showing him a good faith willingness to work by lifting the sanctions and giving back Alaska, you'd have people who were totally OK with it - because he's a Republican and he's going to MAGA and the lib'ral tears are delicious, snowflakes!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 10, 2017 1:26:22 GMT
Teddy Davis CNN... "Trump on hack: "Nobody really knows. Nobody really knows for sure." .@nikkihaley to CNN: "Everybody knows Russia meddled in our elections." 🚫 #MAGA Well....maybe not everyone...
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Post by jayfab on Jul 10, 2017 3:07:37 GMT
It's great that all of these people are saying these things. But when will any of them be willing to DO something? I can't help thinking that Putin and his cronies are all sitting over there laughing at how unbelievably stupid we are being. I feel like it's a scenario when a group of people have been friends with a guy for 5 years and the guy is always going to Broadway musicals, likes to bathe in bath houses, can sing along to every one of the Village People's songs, flies a rainbow flag and when he comes out every single person isn't at all surprised - except for that one guy who says "REALLY? Are you SERIOUS? I had NO IDEA you were gay - I just thought you liked music and baths and rainbows!" I truly do believe that if he got behind the podium and announced that he had been working with Putin to MAGA and the only way to do that was to cheat, but it's OK because Putin is a good friend and we're showing him a good faith willingness to work by lifting the sanctions and giving back Alaska, you'd have people who were totally OK with it - because he's a Republican and he's going to MAGA and the lib'ral tears are delicious, snowflakes!Yup - a "friend" who is a Trump supporter admitted this to me on Friday. He started out a lukewarm supporter but he is beyond overjoyed "liberals/progressives or what ever you want to call yourselves now" are resisting. He's so so happy the other side is crying, protesting and HATING Trump. He's forgotten that he was fuming for the last 8 years. SaveSave
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Post by navymomk9 on Jul 10, 2017 4:08:31 GMT
I had a thought today to start an email campaign to plea to our 5 living exPotus.Surely they are feeling 100 fold the sadness I am at what is happening to that honored office. Maybe as a group they can put pressure on the Senate and Congress to do something. Or they all call a press conference and speak to the American people.Bipartisan.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 4:24:06 GMT
WH said to be in turmoil of Jr's Russian lawyer meetings.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 13:53:30 GMT
I knew this tweet from tiny hands was going to happen...
"If Chelsea Clinton were asked to hold the seat for her mother,as her mother gave our country away, the Fake News would say CHELSEA FOR PRES!"
If Chelsea Clinton had been there and been asked to sit in for Hillary she, based on the work she does for the Clinton Foundation, would have a working knowledge of African migration and health. I'm not sure as a handbag designer Ivanka would have very much knowledge of African migration and health.
I'm pretty sure Hillary wouldn't have given away the country but I am damn sure trump , as the Aussie said, has pressed the fast forward on the decline of the United States as a global leader. I will add he hasalso pressed the fast forward on the decline as a country in general.
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Post by pyccku on Jul 10, 2017 14:11:47 GMT
I knew this tweet from tiny hands was going to happen... "If Chelsea Clinton were asked to hold the seat for her mother,as her mother gave our country away, the Fake News would say CHELSEA FOR PRES!" If Chelsea Clinton had been there and been asked to sit in for Hillary she, based on the work she does for the Clinton Foundation, would have a working knowledge of African migration and health. I'm not sure as a handbag designer Ivanka would have very much knowledge of African migration and health. I'm pretty sure Hillary wouldn't have given away the country but I am damn sure trump , as the Aussie said, has pressed the fast forward on the decline of the United States as a global leader. I will add he hasalso pressed the fast forward on the decline as a country in general. 🚫🚫🚫 #MAGA But did you see Chelsea's reply to him? Save
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Post by pjaye on Jul 10, 2017 14:22:22 GMT
Gotta love Chelsea's reply!
I'm SO sick of "if Clinton had xxx, then xxx would have happened..."
Focus on WTF you (Trump) are doing and stop playing if/then about Hillary. It's pure speculation and you have no idea what actually would have happened.
For what it's worth, if Hillary was President and Chelsea had sat in for Hillary in a world leader's meeting, I suspect that I would think that was totally inappropriate too. Most people in Western countries elect a leader and most of those people would be unhappy for that leader's kid to sit in, in an official capacity. That's what Vice presidents and other senators are for.
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Post by suzastampin on Jul 10, 2017 14:24:30 GMT
From Politico: President tweets at 7:50 am: "Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded.." ... at 7:57 a.m.: "..and safe. Love the responses. Marco Rubio: "Partnering with Putin on a 'Cyber Security Unit' is akin to partnering with Assad on a 'Chemical Weapons Unit'. Lindsey Graham: 'It's not the dumbest idea I've ever heard, but it's pretty close.' And my personal favorite from Preet Bharara: "When pursuing a corrupt politician, mobster or murderer on strong FBI evidence, if he 'vehemently denied. it,' we just dropped it usually." Sure Trump...lets just open the door wide for the fox to get into the hen house. Geez!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 14:29:24 GMT
I knew this tweet from tiny hands was going to happen... "If Chelsea Clinton were asked to hold the seat for her mother,as her mother gave our country away, the Fake News would say CHELSEA FOR PRES!" If Chelsea Clinton had been there and been asked to sit in for Hillary she, based on the work she does for the Clinton Foundation, would have a working knowledge of African migration and health. I'm not sure as a handbag designer Ivanka would have very much knowledge of African migration and health. I'm pretty sure Hillary wouldn't have given away the country but I am damn sure trump , as the Aussie said, has pressed the fast forward on the decline of the United States as a global leader. I will add he hasalso pressed the fast forward on the decline as a country in general. 🚫🚫🚫 #MAGA But did you see Chelsea's reply to him? SaveNo I didn't see that but I agree that I doubt very much that she would have been there and even if she had been if Hillary had to step away a senior staffer would have taken the seat as is the custom when a leader steps away. But I doubt very much Chelsea would have been an unpaid or paid senior adviser in the West Wing if Hillary had won either.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 14:32:35 GMT
Don Jr. is in the shit this morning. Trump flailing. Lots of chatter on Twitter. Hope this is just part of the takedown of any crimes committed by the family.
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Post by imsirius on Jul 10, 2017 14:38:45 GMT
WH said to be in turmoil of Jr's Russian lawyer meetings. Omg. I hope they all go down.... Of course, they may just push it under the rug to save face. There should be arms up with this one. Whether info was given or not, he met with the assumption that there would be! As an aside, the dumbness is strong in this family. Or they really do believe they are untouchable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 14:40:42 GMT
WH said to be in turmoil of Jr's Russian lawyer meetings. Omg. I hope they all go down.... Of course, they may just push it under the rug to save face. There Red should be arms up with this one. As an aside, the dumbness is strong in this family. Or they really do believe they are untouchable. When you're born w/a silver spoon up your butt and granddaddy's money and daddy's money and a giant trust fund just waiting to get you out of any scrape, you start to believe the PR about your own fabulousness.
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Post by imsirius on Jul 10, 2017 14:43:08 GMT
So true zingermack.
I'm sure the WH will spin it though.
" No information was given"
But fact remains, he went EXPECTING information to collude and interfere in the election!
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 10, 2017 14:53:14 GMT
Did anyone see KAC on CNN this morning?
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 10, 2017 15:34:48 GMT
WH said to be in turmoil of Jr's Russian lawyer meetings. Omg. I hope they all go down.... Of course, they may just push it under the rug to save face. There should be arms up with this one. Whether info was given or not, he met with the assumption that there would be! As an aside, the dumbness is strong in this family. Or they really do believe they are untouchable. They ARE untouchable, at least so far. Our Republican representatives are solely responsible for that and are protecting that asshole and his entitled family. Anyone who voted for him and is still supporting him is sick.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 10, 2017 15:57:36 GMT
Omg. I hope they all go down.... Of course, they may just push it under the rug to save face. There should be arms up with this one. Whether info was given or not, he met with the assumption that there would be! As an aside, the dumbness is strong in this family. Or they really do believe they are untouchable. They ARE untouchable, at least so far. Our Republican representatives are solely responsible for that and are protecting that asshole and his entitled family. Anyone who voted for him and is still supporting him is sick. While I agree with with you in the current sense, Trump/family were like this long before they had anything to do with the Republicans. (Which in my mind, makes the Rs treatment of him even more perplexing. )
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 10, 2017 16:33:42 GMT
They ARE untouchable, at least so far. Our Republican representatives are solely responsible for that and are protecting that asshole and his entitled family. Anyone who voted for him and is still supporting him is sick. While I agree with with you in the current sense, Trump/family were like this long before they had anything to do with the Republicans. (Which in my mind, makes the Rs treatment of him even more perplexing. ) He's their man and if anyone should/could put a stop to this it is the Repubs. They have the power and they are just using that lunatic to push their agenda. This disaster lies directly at the feet of our congress and those who voted for him. One man could not do this much damage to our country without help and support.
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Post by pyccku on Jul 10, 2017 16:44:43 GMT
I did see one thing that made me realize that this could change instantly if it turns out to be true.
One of the guys I follow on Twitter said "What if the GOP finds out that Trump's campaign also used help from the Russians to rig the primaries?"
If that is the case, the other 16 Republicans who were running against him would be very upset - for good reason. And I think they would quickly understand that he's not really 'their' guy to protect - he's a guy who hijacked their party and their primaries in order to gain control. And if he has no problem doing that against his own party members, what loyalty would he have in the future?
If that turned out to be the case, I think the GOP would turn on him very, very quickly.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 10, 2017 16:51:13 GMT
one question I have is, if the Trump camp keeps saying that they (various Russians) met with the campaign staff as a matter of course and that's just part of any Presidential campaign-- meeting with foreign diplomats-- then have there ever been reports of any Russians meeting with Clinton's (or any other Democrat's) campaign? I would think if it was all just 'routine' there would have been people with Russia meeting with Clinton's campaign or the Democrats as well. But I haven't heard that.
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Post by wellway on Jul 10, 2017 17:00:50 GMT
I did see one thing that made me realize that this could change instantly if it turns out to be true. One of the guys I follow on Twitter said "What if the GOP finds out that Trump's campaign also used help from the Russians to rig the primaries?" If that is the case, the other 16 Republicans who were running against him would be very upset - for good reason. And I think they would quickly understand that he's not really 'their' guy to protect - he's a guy who hijacked their party and their primaries in order to gain control. And if he has no problem doing that against his own party members, what loyalty would he have in the future? If that turned out to be the case, I think the GOP would turn on him very, very quickly. I've always thought the primaries were an easier target especially if you need to ensure the candidate of your choice. I'm surprised it's not been discussed more, maybe it has and I just haven't seen it.
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Post by suzastampin on Jul 10, 2017 17:27:18 GMT
Did anyone see KAC on CNN this morning? No, but I saw her on GMA. I thought she'd fall down she was spinning so. George was trying to keep her on topic, but didn't totally succeed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 19:43:11 GMT
Poor trump it seems his Vice President is making plans for 2020 without trump being part of them.
Problem is if trump goes down for Russia he's taking Mike Pence with him. If it's found the trump campaign colluded with Russia there is no way Pence didn't know anything about it.
Its like Captain America told Nick Fury in Captain America Winter Soldier. If Hydra goes down so does SHEILD because there is no way of knowing what has been contaminated or something like that. In other words whatever Pence says you won't be able to trust it. Not something you want in a President.
The Plum Line Opinion Is Mike Pence betting it will all come crashing down on Trump? By Sarah Posner July 10 at 3:19 PM Vice President Mike Pence is spending considerable time cultivating big-money Republican donors at small, private events, including hedge fund managers and executives from brokerage houses, chemical giants, and defense contractors, Ken Vogel reports at the New York Times. Many of these events, whose participants are kept secret from the media and are omitted from Pence’s public schedule, have been taking place at the vice-presidential residence at the Naval Observatory, as well as other non-government venues.
While cultivating support from deep-pocketed business interests is nothing new in GOP politics, Pence’s activities raise the question of whether he is doing this for Trump-Pence 2020 — or for himself. As Vogel’s piece points out, Pence’s intimate confabs with wealthy donors and conservative power brokers “have fueled speculation among Republican insiders that he is laying the foundation for his own political future, independent from Mr. Trump.”
All of this suggests something important about Trump. Despite Pence’s protestations to the contrary, the vice president looks to be preparing for his own political future. Beyond this clear signal about his own political ambitions, Pence’s actions raise the question of whether he has lost confidence in Trump’s ability to come out of the Russia investigation unscathed.
This is not the first time that Pence, in his short tenure as Trump’s vice president, has sparked chatter about his political ambitions — unyoked from Trump. In May, Pence filed paperwork with the Federal Election Commission, forming his own political action committee, the Great America Committee, marking “the first time a sitting vice president has formed such a separate political arm,” NBC reported at the time.
The Great America Committee is apparently not wasting any time. Vogel reports that last Thursday, it “held a reception for prospective donors at the Washington offices of the powerful lobbying firm BGR.”
In holding donor events, Great America Committee will do nothing to quell speculation about Pence’s intentions.
Pence filed the paperwork on May 17, eight days after Trump fired FBI director James Comey, and the same day that deputy attorney general Rod J. Rosenstein appointed Robert S. Mueller III special counsel in the Russia investigation. Indeed, the two weeks before Pence filed the Great America papers were rife with some of the most explosive news stories about the Russia scandal to date.
To review: On May 8, former acting Attorney General Sally Yates testified to the Senate Intelligence Committee that the White House kept former national security adviser Mike Flynn for 18 days after she told the White House counsel that he was vulnerable to Russian blackmail. (Pence has always sought to distance himself from the Flynn affair: After Trump asked for Flynn’s resignation in February, Pence maintained that Flynn misled him about the conversations he had with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, playing the part of the duped, but loyal, soldier.)
Then, after that Yates testimony on May 8, Trump engaged in probably the most self-destructive sequence of actions of his presidency. On May 9, he fired Comey. The next day, he met with Kislyak and Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov in the Oval Office, telling them that firing the “real nut job” Comey had eased “great pressure” on him from the Russia investigation. And the day after that, Trump admitted on national television that he had fired Comey because of the “Russia thing.” Finally, on May 11, Trump posted his tweet hinting that he may have recorded his conversations with Comey. (He didn’t.)
One week later, Pence filed the Great America Committee papers, marking his break with the traditional arrangement for political fundraising between presidents and vice-presidents.
The traditional arrangement is based on the expectation that the president and vice president will together run for reelection. But Pence’s activities seem to signal doubts about whether there will even be a Trump-Pence ticket to run in 2020. We are not yet six months into Trump’s term, and each new revelation in the burgeoning Russia investigation seems to heighten the possibility that Trump could either no longer be president, or at least no longer be a viable reelection candidate, in 2020.
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