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Post by mikklynn on Jul 11, 2017 17:06:18 GMT
I just do not know how to respond anymore. But am hoping this ends with a lot of Trump family members and campaign staff in federal prison. I agree. |
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Post by valleyview on Jul 11, 2017 17:07:03 GMT
If Pence and Trump goes down, it would be Paul Ryan as president. Our list of potential replacement presidents is not particularly reassuring. |
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Post by valleyview on Jul 11, 2017 17:09:13 GMT
Does anyone else think the pictures of that Russian attorney look like they're from one of those fake/spam facebook accounts? That is exactly what I said to DH! I guess the high and mighty just don't have enough personal experience with Spam. |
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 11, 2017 17:11:17 GMT
Does anyone else think the pictures of that Russian attorney look like they're from one of those fake/spam facebook accounts? That is exactly what I said to DH! I guess the high and mighty just don't have enough personal experience with Spam. Makes it hard to even give any credibility to the story. Not that I'm doubting it - I'm not. It just adds to the whole "this can't even be real" feeling of the past year. |
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Post by oaksong on Jul 11, 2017 17:13:17 GMT
I'm literally speechless at this point. I can only come up with a ranting string of expletives, which I'll spare you all from.
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Post by suzastampin on Jul 11, 2017 17:25:09 GMT
If Pence and Trump goes down, it would be Paul Ryan as president. Just what we need, Eddie Munster.  sorry, I just can't help myself. |
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Post by linda~lou on Jul 11, 2017 17:26:34 GMT
I've run out of intelligent comments. Reading and watching the news has literally fried my brain. I just can't any more.
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Post by peano on Jul 11, 2017 17:26:52 GMT
Disturbing...on both sides. 1. Jr. accepting this kind of info to use/help his father's campaign and 2. the fact that incriminating evidence of Hillary's dealings with Russia exist.
Both are important points. I sense a Pence presidency on the horizon. We haven't seen any incriminating evidence of Hillary's dealings with Russia. Don't you think that if the Trump campaign had received any such information, they would have used it? Or it would have been released by Russia via Wikileaks? In claiming to have this information, and in getting Don Jr. to agree to a meeting to supposedly receive this information, they seem to have effectively incriminated the Trump campaign without actually providing anything useful against Hillary. It seems to me more and more that the Russians' real intent was to ultimately discredit BOTH candidates. Pence is a big fat fucking liar too. Despite all his fundraising, I think if Trump and friends go down, he's going down with the rest of them. |
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Post by suzastampin on Jul 11, 2017 17:27:42 GMT
This will be big news. HUGE. It will dominate the cable news shows. For the next 19 and 1/2 hours. And the the next big story will happen and everyone will forget all about this one.... Trump is not going anywhere. Sadly, I'm afraid this might be true. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 11, 2017 17:36:01 GMT
Ryan has been sooooooo chummy with DT lately maybe he would go down too??
I have been searching.... Before the new email stuff came out I read a story this morning... One paragraph stood out... I canNOT find it.
It said to the effect that with Jr releasing the initial emails it is to distract us from something far bigger to come out that we might not pay as much attention to.
I will keep looking but have my doubts.... sorry.
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Post by peano on Jul 11, 2017 17:36:05 GMT
If Pence and Trump goes down, it would be Paul Ryan as president. Just what we need, Eddie Munster. sorry, I just can't help myself. Eddie Munster? Don't you mean Eddie Haskell?  |
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Post by friendly on Jul 11, 2017 17:38:59 GMT
One word: conspiracy. Just because there was no explosive info on Hillary doesn't mean that the intent to commit treason wasn't there. For example: conspiring with someone to commit a murder that never happened is still a crime. I'm sure Robert Mueller is all over this.
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Post by 2peaornot2pea on Jul 11, 2017 17:50:46 GMT
I think Donald Trump JR released the emails because there will be even more damaging information coming out. Can you imagine all of the palace intrigue and back stabbing occurring within the White House right now? They are CAUGHT. And shit is going down.
Someone was going to throw him under the bus, and he has decided he is taking people with him.
State-run-media, FOX news, was trying to spin this as a meeting about "adoption policy". Adoption is NEVER mentioned in the email.
So now what I want to know is why isn’t every intelligence & foreign affairs committee member in the House & Senate demanding immediate removal of proven security risks from the White House?
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Post by gardengoddess on Jul 11, 2017 17:55:44 GMT
One word: conspiracy. Just because there was no explosive info on Hillary doesn't mean that the intent to commit treason wasn't there. For example: conspiring with someone to commit a murder that never happened is still a crime. I'm sure Robert Mueller is all over this. ITA. Robert Mueller will be all over this if he doesn't already have the info. I'm old enough to remember when a President had to resign over cover-ups and conspiracy . Even back then, people said nothing would happen to Nixon. Just give it time.....the "House of Cards" will topple. As others have said, our alternatives aren't great either, but a toppled Presidency should certain help the Democrats in 2018/2020. |
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 11, 2017 18:10:03 GMT
I just do not know how to respond anymore. But am hoping this ends with a lot of Trump family members and campaign staff in federal prison. Yes. And a new president. |
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Post by pyccku on Jul 11, 2017 18:10:07 GMT
Yeah, people said there was nothing to the watergate story. And then Nixon resigned and all of a sudden there was.
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Post by casii on Jul 11, 2017 18:14:46 GMT
What's worrisome are comments I'm seeing on news articles that even with collusion with Russia, it doesn't change the fact that they chose Trump over Clinton. As in, they're still Trump supporters even if pretty much everyone was in on Russian interference. Because of that, I despair of a functional America.
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Post by prapea on Jul 11, 2017 18:23:21 GMT
Nothing will come out of this. My personal opinion - It doesn't look like people were this stupid during Nixon's time and republicans or democrats, they stood for what was right (at least some of them). Today, it just feels like they can do anything and everyone is willing to look the other way.
The assholes still are bringing clinton into this. That's how pathetic this is. We are bound to have these mofos for two terms. It's sad that channels even have to "Spin" this news.
But hey, Bengazhi and emails and supreme court justice and walls and repealing ACA...I can't roll my eyes enough.
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Post by inkedup on Jul 11, 2017 18:23:34 GMT
Trump's supporters don't care about anything but the fact that Clinton didn't win, and that "libtards" are upset. They continue to support a President who publicly praises despots and tryants while excoriating the American intelligence community, the judiciary and the media.
I wish I felt like this would matter to them, but it won't.
What stood out to me was the wording in Trump Jr.'s emails about this meeting being part of Russia's ongoing effort to assist Trump and his campaign. It was stated as fact, and a fact that Trump Jr. neither sought to clarify or question. They knew Russia was helping and readily accepted that help.
Too bad none of the Trumpanzees love America as much as they love sticking it to Hillary and her supporters.
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Post by papersilly on Jul 11, 2017 18:33:27 GMT
looks like the "swamp" that Trump will need to drain will be his own.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 11, 2017 18:44:17 GMT
One word: conspiracy. Just because there was no explosive info on Hillary doesn't mean that the intent to commit treason wasn't there. For example: conspiring with someone to commit a murder that never happened is still a crime. I'm sure Robert Mueller is all over this. ITA. Robert Mueller will be all over this if he doesn't already have the info. I'm old enough to remember when a President had to resign over cover-ups and conspiracy . Even back then, people said nothing would happen to Nixon. Just give it time.....the "House of Cards" will topple. As others have said, our alternatives aren't great either, but a toppled Presidency should certain help the Democrats in 2018/2020.Frankly, I'm more concerned about staying alive/keeping my freedom than I am about helping any political party (but I get what you're saying).
p.s. I LOVE your avatar!
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Post by Merge on Jul 11, 2017 19:14:53 GMT
What's worrisome are comments I'm seeing on news articles that even with collusion with Russia, it doesn't change the fact that they chose Trump over Clinton. As in, they're still Trump supporters even if pretty much everyone was in on Russian interference. Because of that, I despair of a functional America. Yep. I'm reading that this was all an evil godless liberal setup. The willful stupidity is deep here. |
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 11, 2017 20:18:12 GMT
This will be big news. HUGE. It will dominate the cable news shows. For the next 19 and 1/2 hours. And the the next big story will happen and everyone will forget all about this one.... Trump is not going anywhere. I hate to say it, but I' think you're right. It seems like he is teflon Don. Nothing seems to stick. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 11, 2017 20:30:56 GMT
^^^ to clarify, I don't actually *like* what you wrote-- I just agree that it will probably happen. (or probably *won't* happen, whichever way you look at it.)
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Post by jayfab on Jul 11, 2017 20:34:04 GMT
Well, well well look at the title of this article "Natalia Veselnitskaya was no stranger, she was important to Trump's business" and take a peek at the photo at the bottom. linky |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 11, 2017 20:38:01 GMT
I just do not know how to respond anymore. But am hoping this ends with a lot of Trump family members and campaign staff in federal prison. That's probably not going to happen because, you know, he's the president and he'll just pardon them all.  |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 11, 2017 20:44:14 GMT
If Pence and Trump goes down, it would be Paul Ryan as president. This makes me physically ill. That's all we need is that thin lipped, slimy, evil bastard running the country. |
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Post by casii on Jul 11, 2017 20:51:16 GMT
I'm waiting for the Twitter meltdown. Someone must be hiding the phone from Trump.
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Post by missfrenchjessica on Jul 11, 2017 21:15:42 GMT
My big question now is what some commentators have said on CNN: If we are seeing Don Jr's emails, what is in the Manafort and Kushner emails? There's no way that this is the worst of it. And that scares the crap out of me because what's in those emails doesn't look good--not good at all....and if those are the ones they're sharing....  |
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Post by inkedup on Jul 11, 2017 21:21:58 GMT
My own husband thinks this is no big deal because "they all do it." Yup, he truly believes that Obama and Hillary engaged in this kind of behavior. He thinks I find it abhorrent because I'm "brainwashed by liberal media."
W.T.F.
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sorry, I just can't help myself.
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