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Post by cade387 on Aug 28, 2017 13:16:35 GMT
Am I the only one who doesn't like Jon and Dany together? Aside from the whole related thing, I just don't think they make a good couple. Jon, win the war, then go home and wait for Lyanna Mormont to grow up. I don't like it either. I'm sure as anything that she got pregnant from that one go.....
The question is will he have to kill her and if so, before or after she gives birth?
Anyone watch #TalkTheThrones last night?
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Post by fredfreddy on Aug 28, 2017 14:13:51 GMT
Fantastic.
Random thoughts: I could have lived without D and J boning while the audience finds out 100% that they are related. I loved all the reunions at the conference. Tormund better be alive. Good job Dany and Tyrion at making it easier for the dead to get though. Bran should become an expert witness for any defense team. He'd make a fortune. Cersei was lying, not shocking. Is Jon's birth name Aemon or Aegon? I couldn't hear it. Littlefinger dies because he thinks he is far too clever than he really is. Fitting.
Also for those who read the books: Is it listed anywhere that a highborn make can just verbally divorce wife one and marry wife two like Jon's dad did? That seems to me a real easy way to get out of any marriage and that lots of Westeros men would have used this tactic, like say Walder Frey who married 8 or 9 times.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 28, 2017 14:23:25 GMT
The question is will he have to kill her and if so, before or after she gives birth? ahh..why would he have to kill her??!!
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Post by Zee on Aug 28, 2017 14:25:19 GMT
Yeah, why would he have to kill her?
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 28, 2017 14:25:32 GMT
for those who read the books: Is it listed anywhere that a highborn make can just verbally divorce wife one and marry wife two like Jon's dad did? That seems to me a real easy way to get out of any marriage and that lots of Westeros men would have used this tactic, like say Walder Frey who married 8 or 9 times. I don't think it was done just verbally. That's why it was noted in the journal.
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Post by cade387 on Aug 28, 2017 14:33:00 GMT
The question is will he have to kill her and if so, before or after she gives birth? ahh..why would he have to kill her??!! Because of the prophesy of "the prince who was promised" having to thrust his sword through the heart of his love (Nissa Nissa) to create lightbringer in order to kill the night king. There is more detail on that in the books than the shows, but still.
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 28, 2017 14:47:05 GMT
I didn't think Tyrion looked heartbroken, I thought he looked... angry? evil? like he is going to betray them? I agree in a way. I think he's heartbroken, but he feels betrayed? cast aside / not worthy once again? I think he's going to become very bitter over it and betray her. Is Jon's birth name Aemon or Aegon? I couldn't hear it Aegon.
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Post by grammadee on Aug 28, 2017 14:55:39 GMT
Also for those who read the books: Is it listed anywhere that a highborn make can just verbally divorce wife one and marry wife two like Jon's dad did? That seems to me a real easy way to get out of any marriage and that lots of Westeros men would have used this tactic, like say Walder Frey who married 8 or 9 times.
Not sure of the time line, but I think he married Jon's mother before Jon was born. She died in childbirth. That would leave him free to marry the mother of his other children. His other kids were quite young--one just a baby--when his father was overthrown. But time, like distance, seems to flow differently in Westeros, so I don't know...
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Post by Zee on Aug 28, 2017 14:56:20 GMT
I thought he just looked a little sad/wistful, like "always a bridesmaid, never a bride"
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 28, 2017 15:00:40 GMT
Because of the prophesy of "the prince who was promised" having to thrust his sword through the heart of his love (Nissa Nissa) to create lightbringer in order to kill the night king. There is more detail on that in the books than the shows, but still. I think the show has gone beyond the books now. It might be a totally different story. We don't know. I do think that Dany won't survive the show. ie, there isn't going to be a happily ever after ending. Also they have been saying that "the prince" is gender neutral.
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Post by Anna*Banana on Aug 28, 2017 15:02:07 GMT
OH.EM.GEEEEEE!!!!! Wow, wow, wow. So satisfying in every way!!! For the fist time ever, I squealed and clapped when Arya stabbed Baelish. SO GOOD. And squealed for joy again when Jon and Dany finally got nekkid. Except... ewwwwww. Incest is a repeating theme with GoT.
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Post by chaosisapony on Aug 28, 2017 15:21:13 GMT
I thought he just looked a little sad/wistful, like "always a bridesmaid, never a bride" That's what I got from it too. One of my favorite moments from last night was when the Hound and Brienne were talking about Arya. Brienne mentioned that people need to fear Arya now not the other way around and the Hound looks so dang proud of her. I loved Arya and the Hound together and I hope they get reunited at some point. Also, if the show never wasted another second on Theon that would be great.
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 28, 2017 15:48:20 GMT
Also, if the show never wasted another second on Theon that would be great. YES! I could have done without that whole beach scene. At this point, does anyone even care about him or Yara? Are they going to be important to the endgame?
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 28, 2017 16:05:09 GMT
YES! I could have done without that whole beach scene. At this point, does anyone even care about him or Yara? Are they going to be important to the endgame? AGREE!!!
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Aug 28, 2017 16:20:26 GMT
Am I the only one who doesn't like Jon and Dany together? Aside from the whole related thing, I just don't think they make a good couple. Jon, win the war, then go home and wait for Lyanna Mormont to grow up. I don't like it either. I'm sure as anything that she got pregnant from that one go.....
The question is will he have to kill her and if so, before or after she gives birth?
Anyone watch #TalkTheThrones last night?
Why would he have to kill her?
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Post by Bridget in MD on Aug 28, 2017 16:34:21 GMT
I saw all these tweets that we won't see GOT until 2019!?!?! Is this true!?!?!?!
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Post by Katie on Aug 28, 2017 16:51:07 GMT
I saw all these tweets that we won't see GOT until 2019!?!?! Is this true!?!?!?! Yes, January 2019 is the anticipated date. Grrrr!
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Post by cade387 on Aug 28, 2017 16:51:43 GMT
I saw all these tweets that we won't see GOT until 2019!?!?! Is this true!?!?!?! From the GOT Fans FB page people are saying that because they haven't even started filming the last season yet (supposed to be Oct 2017) that editing won't be done in time. They are predicting late 2018 or into 2019 depending on how HBO wants to do it and how it aligns with other shows/seasons.
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Post by cade387 on Aug 28, 2017 16:54:37 GMT
Because of the prophesy of "the prince who was promised" having to thrust his sword through the heart of his love (Nissa Nissa) to create lightbringer in order to kill the night king. There is more detail on that in the books than the shows, but still. I think the show has gone beyond the books now. It might be a totally different story. We don't know. I do think that Dany won't survive the show. ie, there isn't going to be a happily ever after ending. Also they have been saying that "the prince" is gender neutral. The show has gone beyond the books for sure, but a lot of the prophesies are still carrying through. Even ones that have been left out are still coming through (like what Dany saw in the house of the undying).
The other prophesy is about how Cersei will die. We saw some of her prophesy but not the last line where it is said that her younger brother will kill her. It is part of why she hates Tyrion so much. Now there could the chance that Jaime is the younger brother spoken of too.
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Post by grammadee on Aug 28, 2017 17:38:15 GMT
I think the show has gone beyond the books now. It might be a totally different story. We don't know. I do think that Dany won't survive the show. ie, there isn't going to be a happily ever after ending. Also they have been saying that "the prince" is gender neutral. The show has gone beyond the books for sure, but a lot of the prophesies are still carrying through. Even ones that have been left out are still coming through (like what Dany saw in the house of the undying).
The other prophesy is about how Cersei will die. We saw some of her prophesy but not the last line where it is said that her younger brother will kill her. It is part of why she hates Tyrion so much. Now there could the chance that Jaime is the younger brother spoken of too.
How many children did the prophesy say she would have? I really need to reread all the books AGAIN. I was hoping that we would get a hint as to when WoW would be coming out, and then I would reread the others before it arrives. I did that before DwD. Especially important now that the TV version is fresher in my mind and I want to get the story lines straight.
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Post by vspindler on Aug 28, 2017 17:59:27 GMT
The show has gone beyond the books for sure, but a lot of the prophesies are still carrying through. Even ones that have been left out are still coming through (like what Dany saw in the house of the undying).
The other prophesy is about how Cersei will die. We saw some of her prophesy but not the last line where it is said that her younger brother will kill her. It is part of why she hates Tyrion so much. Now there could the chance that Jaime is the younger brother spoken of too.
How many children did the prophesy say she would have? I really need to reread all the books AGAIN. I was hoping that we would get a hint as to when WoW would be coming out, and then I would reread the others before it arrives. I did that before DwD. Especially important now that the TV version is fresher in my mind and I want to get the story lines straight. Three "gold would be their crowns, and gold will be their shrouds" the prophecy also says that valonquar (Valarian for "little brother") would choke the life from her. HOWEVER...we have been reminded recently that Valerian is a gender neutral language, that the "Prince who was Promised" would be better translated to the "Prince or Princess who was Promised", so it is possible that the prophecy may not be referring to one of her own younger brothers, but someone's younger sibling, like Arya.
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 28, 2017 18:25:38 GMT
I don't like it either. I'm sure as anything that she got pregnant from that one go.....
The question is will he have to kill her and if so, before or after she gives birth?
Anyone watch #TalkTheThrones last night?
Why would he have to kill her? If I recall there's some theory about LongClaw, John Snow's sword, that in order to be forged the man who tried to forge it had to kill his wife with it. Sorry I don't know exactly, it's my ds that keeps up on all the fan theories/has read the books.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Aug 28, 2017 18:31:20 GMT
Why would he have to kill her? If I recall there's some theory about LongClaw, John Snow's sword, that in order to be forged the man who tried to forge it had to kill his wife with it. Sorry I don't know exactly, it's my ds that keeps up on all the fan theories/has read the books.
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Post by grammadee on Aug 28, 2017 20:51:14 GMT
So I saw a recap of clues/ tie ins with the story arcs, etc, and one clip was of Dani telling Jon in the dragon pit "A dragon cannot be a slave". It was a repeat of something she said to a slaver several seasons ago. (I also remember it from one of the books)
The article didn't go on to mention the dragon awakened by the night king, but I was thinking maybe her saying it again now was a hint that Dani may still be able to bring that one back to her side.
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Post by chaosisapony on Aug 28, 2017 21:30:16 GMT
In the books Euron Greyjoy is said to have a horn that can control dragons. This hasn't been brought up in the show but I am wondering now that he's off to Essos if he isn't going to find it and somehow that might come into play with bringing Viserion back to the side of the living.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 29, 2017 0:11:39 GMT
In the books Euron Greyjoy is said to have a horn that can control dragons. This hasn't been brought up in the show but I am wondering now that he's off to Essos if he isn't going to find it and somehow that might come into play with bringing Viserion back to the side of the living. Yes, that's been mentioned. But I would think it would be used to kill off the other 2, rather then bring Viserion back.
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Post by chaosisapony on Aug 29, 2017 0:13:04 GMT
In the books Euron Greyjoy is said to have a horn that can control dragons. This hasn't been brought up in the show but I am wondering now that he's off to Essos if he isn't going to find it and somehow that might come into play with bringing Viserion back to the side of the living. Yes, that's been mentioned. But I would think it would be used to kill off the other 2, rather then bring Viserion back. I was trying to be optimistic. Wrong show for that kind of thing I know.
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Post by cade387 on Aug 29, 2017 0:22:56 GMT
If I recall there's some theory about LongClaw, John Snow's sword, that in order to be forged the man who tried to forge it had to kill his wife with it. Sorry I don't know exactly, it's my ds that keeps up on all the fan theories/has read the books. I posted above earlier. The prophesy can be found if you look up lightbringer and Nissa Nissa
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Post by cade387 on Aug 29, 2017 0:25:07 GMT
In the books Euron Greyjoy is said to have a horn that can control dragons. This hasn't been brought up in the show but I am wondering now that he's off to Essos if he isn't going to find it and somehow that might come into play with bringing Viserion back to the side of the living. Yes, that's been mentioned. But I would think it would be used to kill off the other 2, rather then bring Viserion back. Well technically, he could use dragon binder (the horn) to kill the white walkers and then use them against Dany, but I agree it is a stretch.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 29, 2017 0:30:00 GMT
I was trying to be optimistic. Wrong show for that kind of thing I know. HA! yea, wrong show. the whole Caitlin stark being of the undead hasn't been seen at all in the series also. they just can NOT cover everything in those books. Just too much
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