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Post by sneakylatina on May 1, 2019 22:57:05 GMT
I get “haggard house wife who can barely be bothered to run a brush through her hair” on almost everything she posts. She’s very drab and she doesn’t seem very happy. Its just weird...she has a white t- shirt on, with a stretched out neck that is curled and needs ironing and then blue and white striped bottoms on (come to find out, its a skirt, but looked like men's pj bottoms for most of the video). Then a brown sweater on. Her hair is pulled back in a messy bun and no make up (not that she has to put make up on). But the whole ensemble looks awkward seeing she is supposed to be a professional. I was struck by how she said "I timelapsed my process, but I know you can do it. I know you can. It took me like less than hour this morning." Somewhat condescending tone. This says to me 1) I'm dialing it in and 2) I'm over this crap. Add in the lack of energy in her outfit, and I'd say, yeah, she's not really that happy with what she's doing at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 23:02:49 GMT
Anyone watch Ali's May OLW video? Im getting an 'old man in pajamas and robe' vibe from her clothing choices. Am I over analyzing it? I get “haggard house wife who can barely be bothered to run a brush through her hair” on almost everything she posts. She’s very drab and she doesn’t seem very happy. She does seem very unhappy. To be fair, she must be bored out of her mind rinsing and repeating the same thing over and over, day in and day out. On the other hand, what sort of job could she land outside of the home? From what she’s said in podcasts, she doesn’t seem to have had a very impressive work history prior to discovering professional scrapbooking.
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Post by mom on May 1, 2019 23:04:20 GMT
Its just weird...she has a white t- shirt on, with a stretched out neck that is curled and needs ironing and then blue and white striped bottoms on (come to find out, its a skirt, but looked like men's pj bottoms for most of the video). Then a brown sweater on. Her hair is pulled back in a messy bun and no make up (not that she has to put make up on). But the whole ensemble looks awkward seeing she is supposed to be a professional. I was struck by how she said "I timelapsed my process, but I know you can do it. I know you can. It took me like less than hour this morning." Somewhat condescending tone. This says to me 1) I'm dialing it in and 2) I'm over this crap. Add in the lack of energy in her outfit, and I'd say, yeah, she's not really that happy with what she's doing at the moment. I agree. I did notice that when she wrote about when she was most alive, it wasn't creating...
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Post by julie5 on May 1, 2019 23:25:23 GMT
Thinking about it, I should not be so critical. I rarely wear makeup, just for very special occasions. I wear t shirts and shorts or leggings, I pull my hair back every day simply because it’s long and when I do work, it gets in my way. I work from home helping my hubby with the tool business. So you could say I’m a grumpy housewife. But I’m not selling my lifestyle on Instagram either so there’s that. I think what strikes me in her videos isn’t her attire, it’s her affect. Very little inflection, and a bored attitude. I mean we all know her pajamas cost more than our fancy clothes, shopping at j crew and all.
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Post by mom on May 1, 2019 23:46:41 GMT
Thinking about it, I should not be so critical. I rarely wear makeup, just for very special occasions. I wear t shirts and shorts or leggings, I pull my hair back every day simply because it’s long and when I do work, it gets in my way. I work from home helping my hubby with the tool business. So you could say I’m a grumpy housewife. But I’m not selling my lifestyle on Instagram either so there’s that. I think what strikes me in her videos isn’t her attire, it’s her affect. Very little inflection, and a bored attitude. I mean we all know her pajamas cost more than our fancy clothes, shopping at j crew and all. I probably shouldn't have brought it up either. But damn. At some point, if you are the 'face' of your brand, people shouldn't be wondering if you showed up in your hubs pajamas.
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Post by julie5 on May 1, 2019 23:49:02 GMT
I meant to call myself a frumpy housewife, but grumpy works too. I agree mom I hate to be so critical but with the prices she charges, she needs to puts some dang clothes on.
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Post by marmargirl on May 2, 2019 0:25:03 GMT
Thinking about it, I should not be so critical. I rarely wear makeup, just for very special occasions. I wear t shirts and shorts or leggings, I pull my hair back every day simply because it’s long and when I do work, it gets in my way. I work from home helping my hubby with the tool business. So you could say I’m a grumpy housewife. But I’m not selling my lifestyle on Instagram either so there’s that. I think what strikes me in her videos isn’t her attire, it’s her affect. Very little inflection, and a bored attitude. I mean we all know her pajamas cost more than our fancy clothes, shopping at j crew and all. I probably shouldn't have brought it up either. But damn. At some point, if you are the 'face' of your brand, people shouldn't be wondering if you showed up in your hubs pajamas. I am so annoyed (probably unreasonably so) with seeing her feet in all her shots. I’m not really sure why, but it makes me a little stabby 🤷🏼♀️
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Post by karinec on May 2, 2019 16:43:43 GMT
I think of it in the perspective, I wouldn't leave the house without some makeup and kind of put together...when you put yourself out there in the virtual world, isn't that like leaving the house?
I'm not saying I'm perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but when I stop having a little pride in my appearance, it's time to check my meds and make sure they're still working.
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Post by hutchfan on May 2, 2019 17:00:19 GMT
As someone who was bullied in school for the clothes I wore or the stores they came from what someone wears or when they wear them doesn't phase me. I would never judge I know how that feels.
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Post by julie5 on May 2, 2019 17:46:12 GMT
As someone who was bullied in school for the clothes I wore or the stores they came from what someone wears or when they wear them doesn't phase me. I would never judge I know how that feels. I dress in clothes from Walmart. Ali wears j crew and $300 shoes. I think what’s happening here is no where near what you went through as a kid.
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Post by teacherlisa on May 2, 2019 17:55:45 GMT
As someone who was bullied in school for the clothes I wore or the stores they came from what someone wears or when they wear them doesn't phase me. I would never judge I know how that feels. I am always uncomfortable when conversations go to someone’s physical appearance (not just here, but also irl) I love the discussions about shipping problems, product releases and that type of thing. We (collectively not judging anyone or pointing fingers) put her down when she has fake eyelashes,when she doesn’t wear make up, when she wears yoga pants and when she wears dresses. She can.not.win... I 100% believe in your right to express whatever opinions about her that you see fit. This is the Ali thread and they belong here. It’s my job to scroll by when something is off to me. hutchfan I just wanted you to know you are not alone in your feelings.
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Post by dawnnikol on May 2, 2019 18:01:56 GMT
As someone who was bullied in school for the clothes I wore or the stores they came from what someone wears or when they wear them doesn't phase me. I would never judge I know how that feels. I dress in clothes from Walmart. Ali wears j crew and $300 shoes. I think what’s happening here is no where near what you went through as a kid. One person's "Walmart" is another person's "J Crew". There's always bigger and better, right?
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Post by hutchfan on May 2, 2019 18:37:30 GMT
As someone who was bullied in school for the clothes I wore or the stores they came from what someone wears or when they wear them doesn't phase me. I would never judge I know how that feels. I dress in clothes from Walmart. Ali wears j crew and $300 shoes. I think what’s happening here is no where near what you went through as a kid. Bullying was an awful thing to go through. Especially over clothes wether they be from Walmart or J Crew.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 2, 2019 18:52:47 GMT
We (collectively not judging anyone or pointing fingers) put her down when she has fake eyelashes,when she doesn’t wear make up, when she wears yoga pants and when she wears dresses. She can.not.win... While I don't particularly care for Ali's Amsterdam housewife look, it's her personal preference so be it. But when I pointed out the semi-permanent lash extensions or clothes which she tagged herself with the brand (Anthropologie, the $285 clogs recently), it was to specifically note the cost of her lifestyle versus the perpetual raising of the price tags in her shop. The AE Peas can't be the only ones noticing the correlation between those two. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I care not for the bump watch brigade or bodyshamers but when you're a public face of a brand whose pricing has reached bougie territory, I am going to put in my skeptical monocle and look through that lens because this is bound to impact her credibility in the scrapbook market. As someone who was bullied in school for the clothes I wore or the stores they came from what someone wears or when they wear them doesn't phase me. I would never judge I know how that feels. *hugs* As a millennial, I wore clothes from the 1960s and 1970s for years as a kid (because they were the unworn "elegant" clothes at the charity shop so my mother found them to be the best value). I feel ya. I fortunately didn't get bullied for it but that was really a stroke of luck. This thread, as far as I can tell, hasn't turned to bullying. I mostly see people paying for her content asking WTF is going on with how she appears in the videos and saying her nonchalant bedhead appearance mirrors her seemingly uninterested attitude about the paying content projects they have invested money in. Some have actually expressed worry re: her happiness/mental wellbeing. I didn't read the latest development as the mean girls clique coming after Cady from Africa. One person's "Walmart" is another person's "J Crew". There's always bigger and better, right? And then there's the matter of relatability towards your customers and how you will inspire them to commit to your brand and pay for your products. I wonder how many of AE's customers aspire to her J.Crew lifestyle or live it? But, not my client, not my circus, not my freakin' monkey to deal with. She'll find out one way or another. This has ended up bringing down other influencers before so I'd always advise caution and keeping some sense of balance but eh, not my circus, etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 22:02:00 GMT
This thread, as far as I can tell, hasn't turned to bullying. I mostly see people paying for her content asking WTF is going on with how she appears in the videos and saying her nonchalant bedhead appearance mirrors her seemingly uninterested attitude about the paying content projects they have invested money in. Some have actually expressed worry re: her happiness/mental wellbeing. I didn't read the latest development as the mean girls clique coming after Cady from Africa. When I studied first year marketing at uni (more years ago than I care to count) post-purchase evaluation (the stage after a product or service has been purchased and used in which the consumer reflects on whether the product met expectations, exceeded them or was disappointing) was recognised as the final step of a customer decision making process. And presentation, much like packaging, was considered to form part of the product. For what it’s worth, as a customer, I usually notice and feel a little put-off if a staff member is dishevelled. And as a human being, I usually feel some concern for their well-being.
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Post by BSideCrafter on May 2, 2019 22:46:45 GMT
What do people think about the text bubble app Ali is using in her stories?
I think it's a nice idea, but she is talking so strangely for it to understand her that it makes watching the stories hard as the talking just seems so unnatural.
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Post by craftymom101 on May 2, 2019 22:51:03 GMT
What do people think about the text bubble app Ali is using in her stories? I think it's a nice idea, but she is talking so strangely for it to understand her that it makes watching the stories hard as the talking just seems so unnatural. I dislike it. Ali has a... unique way of speaking that makes a speech to text app not suited for her. I noticed she has a lot of words that are not correct in the text feature which isn’t ideal as a business owner.
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Post by mom on May 2, 2019 23:35:06 GMT
As someone who was bullied in school for the clothes I wore or the stores they came from what someone wears or when they wear them doesn't phase me. I would never judge I know how that feels. While I understand your point (and I will be sure to keep my opinions to myself in the future) - I feel like this is fair game. She is only presenting herself from the waist up. And to me, it looked like she rolled out of bed in her husbands pajamas. I don't give two fucks if she wears Jcrew, Walmart or thrift store - when you are putting yourself out there (and from only the waist up) then you should appear to put some sort of effort into your appearance. I am a paying customer for her lessons and IMHO its unprofessional (at best) to look like you rolled out of bed for your job. While I am sure the outfit looked fine if she was standing next to me in person - on camera, it looked like she had her husbands pajamas on.
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 3, 2019 0:01:12 GMT
Criticizing her fashion choices is not body shaming.
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Post by hutchfan on May 3, 2019 0:29:18 GMT
Clothes people wear doesn't affect me I would never make comments about anyone's outfits no matter what they are wearing or when they are wearing them based on what I went through in school. I am sorry if my opinion is upsetting anyone. What I do care about is the product I am purchasing, if it doesn't meet my standards then I don't have to buy it. How the company or those that work for the company treat their customers are what is important to me not their clothes they are wearing.
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Post by Citygirl on May 3, 2019 0:58:40 GMT
What do people think about the text bubble app Ali is using in her stories? I think it's a nice idea, but she is talking so strangely for it to understand her that it makes watching the stories hard as the talking just seems so unnatural. I like it. I would rather read captions than watch someone talking. Plus usually when I watch IG stories I’m not somewhere that I want to listen to it loud enough to hear, and I never remember my earbuds.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 1:19:29 GMT
Clothes people wear doesn't affect me I would never make comments about anyone's outfits no matter what they are wearing or when they are wearing them based on what I went through in school. I am sorry if my opinion is upsetting anyone. What I do care about is the product I am purchasing, if it doesn't meet my standards then I don't have to buy it. How the company or those that work for the company treat their customers are what is important to me not their clothes they are wearing. Do you think it’s not ok for people to express their opinions here about how Ali presents herself?
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Post by marmargirl on May 3, 2019 1:52:53 GMT
Clothes people wear doesn't affect me I would never make comments about anyone's outfits no matter what they are wearing or when they are wearing them based on what I went through in school. I am sorry if my opinion is upsetting anyone. What I do care about is the product I am purchasing, if it doesn't meet my standards then I don't have to buy it. How the company or those that work for the company treat their customers are what is important to me not their clothes they are wearing. Do you think it’s not ok for people to express their opinions here about how Ali presents herself? Not to mention that she also tags each part of her outfit so I think it’s fair to comment on her fashion choices.
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Post by hutchfan on May 3, 2019 2:59:39 GMT
Clothes people wear doesn't affect me I would never make comments about anyone's outfits no matter what they are wearing or when they are wearing them based on what I went through in school. I am sorry if my opinion is upsetting anyone. What I do care about is the product I am purchasing, if it doesn't meet my standards then I don't have to buy it. How the company or those that work for the company treat their customers are what is important to me not their clothes they are wearing. Do you think it’s not ok for people to express their opinions here about how Ali presents herself? Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I don't have to like them anymore than you have to like mine. I am getting bashed because I posted a different opinion than others.
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Post by hutchfan on May 3, 2019 3:00:23 GMT
Do you think it’s not ok for people to express their opinions here about how Ali presents herself? Not to mention that she also tags each part of her outfit so I think it’s fair to comment on her fashion choices. And I wasn't talking about her tagged clothes post.
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Post by sneakylatina on May 3, 2019 3:20:47 GMT
Clothes people wear doesn't affect me I would never make comments about anyone's outfits no matter what they are wearing or when they are wearing them based on what I went through in school. I am sorry if my opinion is upsetting anyone. What I do care about is the product I am purchasing, if it doesn't meet my standards then I don't have to buy it. How the company or those that work for the company treat their customers are what is important to me not their clothes they are wearing. With all due respect, I don't know if you are in the OLW classroom, but Ali's dial-it-in lack of enthusiasm was reflected in her work (slapping some labels on photos, scribbling some trite, repetitive journaling, slapping some chipboard asterisks on it, and shoving it into pockets to the point that a piece of chipboard flew across the room apparently), and her attitude towards customers (I know you can do it, guys), so top that with clearly not giving a shit about presentation IS disrespecting your customer, who paid for content that at the very least shouldn't be so visibly uninspired. Coming here to talk about the outfit is SYMBOLIC of the feeling of being disrespected. Her attitude is so externalized that yes, I wonder if she needs to step back from this shit and have her own life again. Edited to add: And yes, I'm done with anything of Ali's I have to pay for.
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Post by hutchfan on May 3, 2019 3:45:58 GMT
Clothes people wear doesn't affect me I would never make comments about anyone's outfits no matter what they are wearing or when they are wearing them based on what I went through in school. I am sorry if my opinion is upsetting anyone. What I do care about is the product I am purchasing, if it doesn't meet my standards then I don't have to buy it. How the company or those that work for the company treat their customers are what is important to me not their clothes they are wearing. With all due respect, I don't know if you are in the OLW classroom, but Ali's dial-it-in lack of enthusiasm was reflected in her work (slapping some labels on photos, scribbling some trite, repetitive journaling, slapping some chipboard asterisks on it, and shoving it into pockets to the point that a piece of chipboard flew across the room apparently), and her attitude towards customers (I know you can do it, guys), so top that with clearly not giving a shit about presentation IS disrespecting your customer, who paid for content that at the very least shouldn't be so visibly uninspired. Coming here to talk about the outfit is SYMBOLIC of the feeling of being disrespected. Her attitude is so externalized that yes, I wonder if she needs to step back from this shit and have her own life again. Edited to add: And yes, I'm done with anything of Ali's I have to pay for.
I agree that I wish there was more enthusiasm for creating and scrapping I have stated that myself. The clothes didn't bother me as it did others and I was giving my point of view and it obviously didn't go over well.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 3, 2019 4:57:43 GMT
hutchfan I get it. It's clearly a touchy subject for you and understandably so considering what happened to you as a child. Nobody's bashing you. People pushed back against your statement about criticism of clothes in such close vicinity to your personal experience of bullying. I don't think anyone was getting upset over you expressing your opinion. The conversation wasn't meant to corner you. You don't care at all about what people wear or how they present themselves whereas most of the people who replied over the last couple of pages do. That's the only difference I noted here and I hope you don't read more into it. I no longer pay for OLW after last year's lack of inspiration so I can't comment exactly on how Ali looked in the latest OLW video but comments about appearing to have unkempt hair, a stretched out T-shirt neck and looking like she rolled out of bed all indicate a lack of professionalism to those who are affected by people's appearance (no matter where one is on that particular spectrum). I can't show up at work like that or my boss would be like: "Hello, did you party a little too hard last night?" This is a scrap community in the end. Designers are selling us pretty stuff and classes to make pretty things. We are highly visual people invested in how it looks, from photography to LO design and physical or digital products or else we'd just slap a few photos down on a piece of cardstock and call it a day. It would be a little ironic if the majority of us didn't give a hoot about other aesthetic matters. It's totally fine if you don't, however. Yeah, you got several us to reply and oppose some of what you said but I really don't see how you got bashed in here. It never got personal or nasty. I mean, it's nothing compared to a political thread in NSBR... Now can't we all just take off our expensive clogs sorry, I couldn't resist, sit by the fire, roast some marshmallows and sing Kumbaya? It's Friday, we should all be feeling happy!
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 3, 2019 5:18:52 GMT
On the matter of Ali now using Clipomatic for automatic subs in her IG Stories: I don't mind. It can be practical for those who can't afford to check IG Stories at work with the sound on or who don't understand spoken English very well. Granted, the result is a little bit hacked up at times and underlines her particular speech patterns but it's a plus for some of her foreign followers, her deaf followers (so often left out in Stories) and those who can't pop in headphones while taking a coffee break in the office. I'm cool with it and see it as a positive.
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Post by hutchfan on May 3, 2019 11:03:15 GMT
hutchfan I get it. It's clearly a touchy subject for you and understandably so considering what happened to you as a child. Nobody's bashing you. People pushed back against your statement about criticism of clothes in such close vicinity to your personal experience of bullying. I don't think anyone was getting upset over you expressing your opinion. The conversation wasn't meant to corner you. You don't care at all about what people wear or how they present themselves whereas most of the people who replied over the last couple of pages do. That's the only difference I noted here and I hope you don't read more into it. I no longer pay for OLW after last year's lack of inspiration so I can't comment exactly on how Ali looked in the latest OLW video but comments about appearing to have unkempt hair, a stretched out T-shirt neck and looking like she rolled out of bed all indicate a lack of professionalism to those who are affected by people's appearance (no matter where one is on that particular spectrum). I can't show up at work like that or my boss would be like: "Hello, did you party a little too hard last night?" This is a scrap community in the end. Designers are selling us pretty stuff and classes to make pretty things. We are highly visual people invested in how it looks, from photography to LO design and physical or digital products or else we'd just slap a few photos down on a piece of cardstock and call it a day. It would be a little ironic if the majority of us didn't give a hoot about other aesthetic matters. It's totally fine if you don't, however. Yeah, you got several us to reply and oppose some of what you said but I really don't see how you got bashed in here. It never got personal or nasty. I mean, it's nothing compared to a political thread in NSBR... Now can't we all just take off our expensive clogs sorry, I couldn't resist, sit by the fire, roast some marshmallows and sing Kumbaya? It's Friday, we should all be feeling happy! Thanks for your prospective. I hope you have a wonderful weekend too!
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