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Post by prapea on Sept 17, 2017 22:13:02 GMT
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Post by YooHoot on Sept 17, 2017 22:24:37 GMT
Avoid the cost of the run?
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Post by prapea on Sept 17, 2017 22:38:00 GMT
Avoid the cost of the run? Ok. I didn't think of that. The races I did so far ....max I paid was $100 for a half marathon and there are always deals. But I see your point
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Post by elaine on Sept 17, 2017 22:39:29 GMT
Because the races are insanely expensive. Disney 1/2 marathon is $185.
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Post by myshelly on Sept 17, 2017 22:44:53 GMT
Races are insanely, ridiculously, horribly expensive.
I don't understand why anyone would ever pay that much money to run. I can go run on a trail in a park for free.
I just don't get it.
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Post by 1girlygirl on Sept 17, 2017 22:45:02 GMT
I've run a lot of races, and I have never seen anyone that was able to pick of race packs without a photo ID to verify they are the person registered. You can't even pick up for a friend. Disney races are quite pricey, but if you can't afford then don't do it. Pretty ballsy to wear someone else's stolen race bib and think you won't get caught. Most races don't allow for transfer of number/registration, but typically the registered runner still picks up their pack and then sells it to another runner instead of eating the cost if they can't participate for whatever reason. This is just crazy!
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Post by elaine on Sept 17, 2017 22:45:31 GMT
Avoid the cost of the run? Ok. I didn't think of that. The races I did so far ....max I paid was $100 for a half marathon and there are always deals. But I see your point Never deals for Disney races and they sell out in minutes.
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Post by mom on Sept 17, 2017 22:46:39 GMT
I would guess because of the entry fees or maybe she is just mental and gets a thrill out of the stealing (even if she doesn't 'need' to).
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Post by FurryP on Sept 17, 2017 22:52:37 GMT
Not related to this story, but related to cheating.....I read people do it all the time. Like run for part of the race, take a ride closer to the end, and the run the rest. I don't get it either.
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Post by SockMonkey on Sept 17, 2017 23:09:04 GMT
Because people are assholes?
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Post by annabella on Sept 17, 2017 23:15:13 GMT
I think she has a mental issue. She's dressed up and capable to run the distance, so no casual Joe. But to do this serially, there are some screws loose. She must get some high out of having all those bibs. Those pants she's wearing - $100. And she has money to buy to buy the costume top.
I only do 5Ks and get annoyed that they cost $40.
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Post by mcscrapper on Sept 17, 2017 23:22:41 GMT
I guess it would be fairly easy to steal someone's identity to get a bib. There are several DisneyRun FB pages and I'm sure all it would take is someone to write a few names down and be one of the first ones in the door for package pick up and you've got yourself a bib.
What an asshat though.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Sept 18, 2017 0:14:48 GMT
It says the chips are deactivated when the real runner comes for their bib, so it wasn't to fake better run times or qualify for Boston or something. This is all about $.
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Post by prapea on Sept 18, 2017 0:19:36 GMT
Races are insanely, ridiculously, horribly expensive. I don't understand why anyone would ever pay that much money to run. I can go run on a trail in a park for free. I just don't get it. I run the races I run for fun. I do run at a park for my practice runs 😂 Lol. I don't know. I guess you can say I love the high I get crossing that finish line and getting that medal. And my husband jokes saying, honey for all that money, you can buy a lot of bling.lolol.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Sept 18, 2017 0:21:18 GMT
Races are insanely, ridiculously, horribly expensive. I don't understand why anyone would ever pay that much money to run. I can go run on a trail in a park for free. I just don't get it. Have you ever run in an organized race?
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Post by myshelly on Sept 18, 2017 0:30:49 GMT
Races are insanely, ridiculously, horribly expensive. I don't understand why anyone would ever pay that much money to run. I can go run on a trail in a park for free. I just don't get it. Have you ever run in an organized race? No, because I don't see the point. I don't want a tshirt. I don't want a medal. I don't care about my time. I don't care about crossing a finish line. I don't want to run in proximity to any other person. I have been asked to. I've seen registration forms. I have friends who do. It sounds like the third circle of hell to me.
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Post by brina on Sept 18, 2017 0:49:51 GMT
For the woman in that story in particular (there is a facebook group who has nicknamed her Patty Pan) it seems to be for attention. She has a running blog where she has often written about races, posted photos of herself and of the finishers medal, with no proof that she was entered into them.
I have been following Derrick Murphy for a couple of years now and he has uncovered a number of cheaters. He always reaches out to them and tries to get their side of the story. Most ignore him until the article is published and then they contact him and accuse him of being a bully or publicly shaming them. Interestingly, the one person who did answer him immediately he never revealed their identify, but wrote the story including their explanation.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Sept 18, 2017 2:41:12 GMT
Have you ever run in an organized race? No, because I don't see the point. I don't want a tshirt. I don't want a medal. I don't care about my time. I don't care about crossing a finish line. I don't want to run in proximity to any other person. I have been asked to. I've seen registration forms. I have friends who do. It sounds like the third circle of hell to me. Geeze, you seem really upset about races. The most important thing to me about a race that you didn't mention is commitment to a physical goal. I don't care about tshirts, medals, or running with other people, either. But when you make a fitness goal and sign up for a race that at the end it tests that goal, it's one hell of a motivator. Sure, people can make fitness goals without the commitment of a race. But I've only encountered one, maybe two(?) people who made their goal. But I know dozens who got into shape for a race. And nothing feels as good as you do when you achieve that goal and hundreds of people are cheering and clapping when you cross that line. It's a rush.
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Post by myshelly on Sept 18, 2017 2:59:29 GMT
No, because I don't see the point. I don't want a tshirt. I don't want a medal. I don't care about my time. I don't care about crossing a finish line. I don't want to run in proximity to any other person. I have been asked to. I've seen registration forms. I have friends who do. It sounds like the third circle of hell to me. Geeze, you seem really upset about races. The most important thing to me about a race that you didn't mention is commitment to a physical goal. I don't care about tshirts, medals, or running with other people, either. But when you make a fitness goal and sign up for a race that at the end it tests that goal, it's one hell of a motivator. Sure, people can make fitness goals without the commitment of a race. But I've only encountered one, maybe two(?) people who made their goal. But I know dozens who got into shape for a race. And nothing feels as good as you do when you achieve that goal and hundreds of people are cheering and clapping when you cross that line. It's a rush. I think I'm just more upset about the mentality that races represent to me. I don't understand why people are motivated by that. I think motivation should be internal, not "look at me, clap for me, post about it on social media". I would rather go to a beach or into the woods and run by myself, for myself, with no one else around. I don't need the finish line. I don't need the clapping. I don't need the cheering. I guess I just think the world would be a better place if people could find more internal motivation for goals. It's part of my anti-ceremony mentality (I don't understand why people want to walk across a stage and receive a diploma; I don't understand why people want to stand up and say vows in front of people).
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Post by prapea on Sept 18, 2017 3:17:05 GMT
Geeze, you seem really upset about races. The most important thing to me about a race that you didn't mention is commitment to a physical goal. I don't care about tshirts, medals, or running with other people, either. But when you make a fitness goal and sign up for a race that at the end it tests that goal, it's one hell of a motivator. Sure, people can make fitness goals without the commitment of a race. But I've only encountered one, maybe two(?) people who made their goal. But I know dozens who got into shape for a race. And nothing feels as good as you do when you achieve that goal and hundreds of people are cheering and clapping when you cross that line. It's a rush. I think I'm just more upset about the mentality that races represent to me. I don't understand why people are motivated by that. I think motivation should be internal, not "look at me, clap for me, post about it on social media". I would rather go to a beach or into the woods and run by myself, for myself, with no one else around. I don't need the finish line. I don't need the clapping. I don't need the cheering. I guess I just think the world would be a better place if people could find more internal motivation for goals. It's part of my anti-ceremony mentality (I don't understand why people want to walk across a stage and receive a diploma; I don't understand why people want to stand up and say vows in front of people). I don't know if my response will help you understand but here it goes. I will admit without shame, I love the cheers, claps and the showing off on my FB. I love the wall in my room with my medals hung up. If that makes me a narcissist or self-loving crazy bitch, so be it ...lol. I still am me with or without those cheers and FB likes. I still would workout regularly, I still would run the races. The acvolades, the bling and the finish line rush are just a bonus. It also helps me to stay away from getting "bored" with my exercise regimen. I have to just chalk it up as one of those, "different strokes for different people"
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Post by RosieKat on Sept 18, 2017 20:47:26 GMT
I cheated in a 5k race in junior high, but I didn't realize it. I turned in the wrong place, which apparently cut a small loop off, and so at most, probably ran 4k. I was legitimately overwhelmed by my first place finish. I didn't figure it out until later when someone asked me something about something they saw in the part that I missed. I never opened my mouth, though, because I was too embarrassed and there was nothing on the line (no prizes or anything).
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Post by papersilly on Sept 18, 2017 20:54:40 GMT
Why would you steal simeone else's racebib? Or Why do people cheat in these races? I mean, even for 5Ks, 10K's ? What do they think they acheiev? Uggg, amm I can say is, Idiots. some people like the commemorative medals and badges they give out at the end of the race. i know someone who ran the Tinkerbell 1/2 marathon. she was not in shape for it in any way, shape, or form. she never even trained for the race but she wanted the medal they give out at the end of the race. she wanted something to post on her social media. she wanted to be able to say she ran the race. at least she paid for it. clearly the serial bib thief in the article wanted the commemorative medals and badges too. look at her proudly showing it off on her social media.
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Post by Tamhugh on Sept 18, 2017 21:15:29 GMT
I think I'm just more upset about the mentality that races represent to me. I don't understand why people are motivated by that. I think motivation should be internal, not "look at me, clap for me, post about it on social media". I would rather go to a beach or into the woods and run by myself, for myself, with no one else around. I don't need the finish line. I don't need the clapping. I don't need the cheering. I guess I just think the world would be a better place if people could find more internal motivation for goals. It's part of my anti-ceremony mentality (I don't understand why people want to walk across a stage and receive a diploma; I don't understand why people want to stand up and say vows in front of people). I don't know if my response will help you understand but here it goes. I will admit without shame, I love the cheers, claps and the showing off on my FB. I love the wall in my room with my medals hung up. If that makes me a narcissist or self-loving crazy bitch, so be it ...lol. I still am me with or without those cheers and FB likes. I still would workout regularly, I still would run the races. The acvolades, the bling and the finish line rush are just a bonus. It also helps me to stay away from getting "bored" with my exercise regimen. I have to just chalk it up as one of those, "different strokes for different people" Doing a RunDisney race was on my bucket list. I was/am very overweight and out of shape so it was a big deal to do the 5k. I talked my SIL into running the Princess with me a few years ago. It was so much fun that we did it the next year with most of our family and are running the Wine and Dine in a few weeks. What was motivating to us? Having the CMs lined up on top of the tracks to Test Track, cheering for us as we ran underneath. Running through World Showcase early in the morning before the park opened. But the one thing that really did it? We were close to the end of the race and my SIL was starting to say she didn't think she could finish. As we came under Spaceship Earth, a CM, an older woman, was standing along the route with a set of Mickey clappers, cheering everyone on. As we ran past her, she high fived my SIL and said, "you go, girlfriend!" SIL still says that she would have quit if it wasn't for that woman. SIL is in great shape and works hard at fitness, but this was her first attempt at running ever and it made an impact on her.
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Post by Tamhugh on Sept 18, 2017 21:21:07 GMT
I think she has a mental issue. She's dressed up and capable to run the distance, so no casual Joe. But to do this serially, there are some screws loose. She must get some high out of having all those bibs. Those pants she's wearing - $100. And she has money to buy to buy the costume top. I only do 5Ks and get annoyed that they cost $40. You can get Nike running tights for under $50 and her shirt is just a man's polo shirt with a shoelace through the button holes. Having done a few RunDisney races, that costume is nowhere near the elaborate ones that people wear. Not saying she can or cannot afford the fees, but her costume doesn't really give an indication of that.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Sept 18, 2017 23:13:38 GMT
I cheated in a 5k race in junior high, but I didn't realize it. I turned in the wrong place, which apparently cut a small loop off, and so at most, probably ran 4k. I was legitimately overwhelmed by my first place finish. I didn't figure it out until later when someone asked me something about something they saw in the part that I missed. I never opened my mouth, though, because I was too embarrassed and there was nothing on the line (no prizes or anything). This made me lol
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Post by candygurl on Sept 19, 2017 4:21:51 GMT
I have no clue how she got that Disney bib because I had to show ID to get mine and they were very strict on rules and you couldn't even change corrals, unless done before a certain date. Yes, it was a lot of money, but worth it to me, to experience it once running through the park.
I don't race to be someone, I am not competitive and most of the time, I hate racing. I do love the training aspect and of course crossing the finish line. I do it for me and no one else. My favorite mantra to say whiigke running nis ' to run your own race'. I'm a middle of the pack runner and happy to stay there!
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Post by gina on Sept 19, 2017 4:36:20 GMT
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Post by Just Beth on Sept 19, 2017 6:08:21 GMT
I cheated in a 5k race in junior high, but I didn't realize it. I turned in the wrong place, which apparently cut a small loop off, and so at most, probably ran 4k. I was legitimately overwhelmed by my first place finish. I didn't figure it out until later when someone asked me something about something they saw in the part that I missed. I never opened my mouth, though, because I was too embarrassed and there was nothing on the line (no prizes or anything). Omg this is totally something that would happen to me 😂
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Sept 19, 2017 15:57:49 GMT
Geeze, you seem really upset about races. The most important thing to me about a race that you didn't mention is commitment to a physical goal. I don't care about tshirts, medals, or running with other people, either. But when you make a fitness goal and sign up for a race that at the end it tests that goal, it's one hell of a motivator. Sure, people can make fitness goals without the commitment of a race. But I've only encountered one, maybe two(?) people who made their goal. But I know dozens who got into shape for a race. And nothing feels as good as you do when you achieve that goal and hundreds of people are cheering and clapping when you cross that line. It's a rush. I think I'm just more upset about the mentality that races represent to me. I don't understand why people are motivated by that. I think motivation should be internal, not "look at me, clap for me, post about it on social media". I would rather go to a beach or into the woods and run by myself, for myself, with no one else around. I don't need the finish line. I don't need the clapping. I don't need the cheering. I guess I just think the world would be a better place if people could find more internal motivation for goals. It's part of my anti-ceremony mentality (I don't understand why people want to walk across a stage and receive a diploma; I don't understand why people want to stand up and say vows in front of people). My husband is an ultrarunner and I know a lot of other runners in that community. These runners do amazing things and I'm constantly amazed at how humble they are. I'm proud of my husband and what he's accomplished - but nobody would probably know a thing about what he does if I didn't say something. He is in no way a "look at me" type of person. He does the races - it's a goal, there is a great sense of community and camaraderie, and it's practical (it's much easier to run a hundred miles when somebody has organized the aid stations - running a hundred miles on your own is logistically more difficult). But he also does spend most of his time running on his own with plenty of internal motivation (as do many of the other runners I know). Obviously there are all types of people and there are the "look at me" type of runners, but to use such a wide brush to paint a whole group of people is wrong.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Sept 19, 2017 16:02:42 GMT
I'm fascinated by the cheaters and the great internet sleuthing that nails these assholes. I guess these people have some weird pathological need for external validation (or getting around race fees?). I don't see how you could feel anything good about claiming an accomplishment you didn't do. And I think it's funny about wanting the medals - I know a lot of runners who could care less about the medals and appreciate when a race gives out something useful at the finish line.
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