Look at this then STFU about reclining seats.

That's exactly what that means. And don't complain that your shoes are too tight bc there are people who don't have shoes. And don't ever complain if your hot water gets turned off bc people don't have any water at all.  /sarcasm

And these soldiers are getting paid FOR it. It's their job. It's what they signed up for. Just like I signed up for sitting in a cubicle all day staring at the computer screen. And I wholeheartedly appreciate their service every single day, but their work flight conditions have nothing to do with my commercial flight conditions that I paid for. I'm sorry OP but your post is a bad example and hugely inflammatory. 

If people never complain, nothing would ever improve. EVER.

Thank you Dani-Mani. I had many responses typed out but I was afraid that it would come off bad or wrong. I have trouble explaining myself sometimes online. But then it hit me, that's exactly the problem. OP used that pic because it was inflammatory and that is not ok. 

As a military family, we don't appreciate when people use photos/the likeness of soldiers(and/or their families) to guilt trip people for expecting reasonable service/treatment or accommodations, or even worse to try and SILENCE PEOPLE (especially since freedom of speech is part of why soldiers do their job in the first place)

Yes my husband has flown on military planes, eaten MRE's(meals ready to eat), slept on the ground, been in extreme heat and cold, been separated from us(his family) on more then one occasion, and hardest of all, in a war.

But you know what, he also flies on commercial airlines, stays in civilian hotels, eats in restaurants, goes to movies, and shops in stores when he is home JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. So for the most part soldiers live here, and when civilians benefit so do Soldiers;Don't you think soldiers want to be comfortable when they go on vacation? Don't you think they would like to eat a meal that is more than just a step up from a MRE at a Restaurant? Don't you think they expect a clean hotel room? Fact is I could go on and on. My husbands knows what is of him as a soldier when he is working, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't expect higher standards of living when he is home. He does what he does so people can have a better life, which, by the way also includes him.

My husband has complained when service has been bad, so does that make him ungrateful, since by OP's reasoning it would be a step up from he is used to?

We are allowed to VOICE OUR CONCERNS...if no one ever did NOTHING WOULD EVER CHANGE. The key is to voice it to the right people and to encourage others to do the same.

As a Military spouse (and a former military child) I appreciate when people support soldiers and families and I do want you(general of course) to know what sacrifices we make, but my husband and I in NO MEANS want you to feel guilty for expecting quality in anything you choose to put your hard earned money into.



PS...I hope this post doesn't come out as a ramble, I do try to make myself clear but sometimes I just can't express it as well in writing;

I just want people to stop being so stupid about reclining seats, that they cause a plane make an emergency landing, screwing EVERYBODY else on the flight. Grow up!

Interesting how this thread went off the rails. I thought freebird was just pointing out the irony of the entitled who will force a plane to land and inconvenience all the passengers in comparison to those who serve us in the military who put up with inconveniences every day that we take for granted.

I've been around long enough to know based on who and how they responded that if this thread were started by a left leaning refugeepea it would have gone an entirely different way.

Way to make it "us vs them."

@scrappower we are diametrically opposed on the political spectrum on the political threads. But you seem to follow me around on the nsbr just to quote and disagree with me on any thread about anything. It's rather boorish of you.

Nope I just was reading this thread. Sorry you think I am out to follow you around. Trust me no one has time for that. Lol.

hhmmm...sorry but your thread did not translate as a joke to me.



Your title "look at this and STFU about reclining seats"

then a link to a milt. photo

and a "you have nothing to bitch about"



....when I read all that together it sounds like it is directed at the reader, not towards people fighting over the seats on the plane.



sometimes wording is everything.I don't know you or how you "joke" IRL, heck I don't even know what your personality is like online either for the matter. It's pretty easy for what you typed to be misunderstood.
I had my husband read it as well and he took it the same way I did(you know...the guy who is actually in the Military).
As far as the "sticking point" it isn't  so much a reclining seat as it is that people can't ever be upset over anything without someone chiming in with "well so and so" have it so much worse so you aren't allowed to expect better....this is what irks people.

It was the STFU in the thread title that belies the idea of it being a joke; at least to me.

If it actually doesn't matter who pays for your ticket - you, your employer or Aunt Bee, and it doesn't matter if it's an under priced, reasonably priced, or over priced seat, and you want to reserve your reclination and complaining rights, just own it and say so. 

I agree.  Although in a thread about reclining seat, it's really not that big of a deal to me.  No one is going to be crushed because someone thinks the complaining about reclining seats is petty.  


But sometimes I see these kind of responses to people who are really hurting or suffering with something.  And I hate that.  Just because someone else is suffering a worse fate doesn't diminish your pain and I wish people would refrain from these type of responses in those cases particularly.  


But overall, in serious or lighter topics, I do find that "someone else has it worse" responses make me cringe (a bit,or quite a lot, depending).    When I am speaking to someone and hear (or am reading here and see) a response that starts with "At least..." I immediately find myself thinking "uh-no, it's not going to be one of those responses, is it?". 



I totally get that what is important to me at any given time may not matter at all to someone else, and I don't mind them saying so.  I just think that whether or not I agree that something is upsetting, if someone else feels that it is, then they have a right to feel that way and to talk about it.