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Post by seaexplore on Feb 7, 2018 5:12:10 GMT
Or you can be like me and it has zero effects other than helping with allergies. I'm the same way with Vicodin/hydrocodone. None of the "good" side effects people can use it for. I wonder what it is about my make-up that determines that. I almost always need a higher dose of medication for it to work (even in my thin days), and medications that are supposed to knock people on their rears don't so much as make me yawn. Even when I want them to like sleep meds. Any ideas? I'm the same. I don't know why. Dh takes NyQuil and is out cold for 12 hours. I take NyQuil and I can breathe while I stare at the walls trying to fall asleep. I LOVE Benadryl for the sleep it gives me! I can get a solid 12 hours! It's amazing! I can get up to pee and get back in bed and pass out like I was never awake! NyQuil is a never ever again for me. Many years ago I took it for a nasty cold I had. Got up the next morning and took a shower. Passed out cold in the shower. Woke up on the floor. Thought maybe it was because I was sick. A months later, I gave it a try again. Exact same response. No more NyQuil for me! I can take DayQuil tho.
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Post by seaexplore on Feb 7, 2018 5:14:41 GMT
I avoid meds (over the counter and prescription) as much as possible. I'm like others that fall asleep for 12 hours after taking Benadryl. I had my wisdom teeth out 2 weeks ago and they gave me hydrocodone for the pain. My dh woke me up after 4 hours after getting home (whatever they gave me at the oral surgeon's office in my IV knocked me out) to give me my hydrocodone (to stay ahead of the pain like the Dr. said to) and 6 hours later I was still asleep and he woke me again to take another. When he woke me the 3rd time, I said "No! give me Advil, I'll deal with the pain if there is any." I don't like the idea of being dead to the world. I don't understand how people get high off of it. I can't even stay awake for 10 mins. I can't imagine taking 50 or more pills at one time to get high and then to be stopped up? Ummm....no thanks! When I had my c-sections they gave me Vicodin and Motrin to piggy back for pain. I was fully functional all hopped up on that concoction! Wide awake but in no pain.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Feb 7, 2018 5:18:22 GMT
As a nurse I am always astounded by those sorts of numbers. I mean who just decides to take 100 pills of some random medicine? In Australia we don't use the antihistamine Benadryl, and one time I was trying to see if there was a reason why so I was looking at various sites online and clicking on links. I wanted to buy some and get it sent here from the USA and I was trying to work out if it would be confiscated by customs. I ended up on a weird message board...like here but with drugs! There was a thread about getting high with Benadryl and of course I read it...people were taking 1g (40tabs) at a time and some were also mixing it with other drugs as well and they were describing what happens, hallucinations etc. I did eventually get a bottle and the first time I took half a tablet, I slept for 9 hours! I can't even imagine what would happen if I took 40, or even imagine thinking that would be something I'd like to try. They must know that they risk killing themselves with doses like that. I suppose they must have a pretty crappy life already otherwise they wouldn't be sitting around thinking "let's see what happens when I take 100 of these anti-diarrhoea tablets?" See Benadryl is a weird medicine and it can affect some people the opposite way some are drowsy, sleep etc and others are wired and bouncing off the walls and until you take it the first time I don’t know if there’s a way to tell which you are. And then there are weirdos like me that it does nothing to. It’s like taking a tic tac. I have a tolerance to a lot of meds. Things that are suppose to make you sleepy/relaxed/loopy do nothing to me. Also resistant to lots of pain meds. That sucks even more. 😞😂
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Post by Just Beth on Feb 7, 2018 8:14:31 GMT
What do you use in the hospital for people having allergic reactions? We have plenty of other antihistamines, both drowsy and non drowsy ones...just for some reason the diphenhydramine never made it over here. From what I could see it's not banned or restricted in anyway, just not sold here. Perhaps they figured we had enough choice and didn't need one more?...I've never been able to find a clear answer. I ordered a bottle of 600 tabs and some Benadryl gel and it got through customs with no problems. We do have a product called "Benadryl" but it's a cough syrup and has totally different ingredients. For anaphylaxis we'd use adrenaline but for standard allergic type reaction Phenergan (promethazine) would be the most common, comes in IV/IM ampoules, tablets and liquid form for kids, can be bought without a prescription but needs pharmacist approval. Steroids are also commonly used for allergies. All the non drowsy antihistamines are readily available OTC though such as Claratyne, Telfast, Zyrtec etc. Totally Interesting! Thanks for replying. We have all those non drowsy meds as well and I’ve been on one or another for over 20 years personally. We typically only use promethazine for nausea and it’s rx only (although it’s no longer first choice since ondansetron came on the scene.) Promethazine liquid is also a combo with codeine for cough but it’s hard to get an rx for it because it’s a drug of abuse. I was surprised my OD patient took 50mg soft gels because it’s typically only sold in 25mg each strength. Her mom gave me the bottle so I’m certain of the strength.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 8:56:48 GMT
Wow, that is just crazy! What is wrong with people?
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Feb 7, 2018 10:47:46 GMT
So do these drugs sites mention the side effects of taking 50-300 Imodium tablets? Do they still stop you up in those quantities, or does the body get rid of them?
I'm fascinated by how medications work. I haven't taken Benadryl since I was an allergic child, but I remember bouncing off the walls - no sign of drowsiness (sorry Mum!)
I had my first Triptan last week for a migraine, and was interested to note that it killed the migraine but did nothing for my abdominal pain. Conversely paracetamol (Tylenol) does very little for me, and I've had allergic reactions to ibuprofen and aspirin, so I'm now experimenting with alternatives. Don't worry, only monthly when required, not recreationally! I've discovered that Zapain (Cocodamol) works for abdominal pain but keeps me awake so I can only take it before 3pm. That sucks when the pain doesn't come on until later in the day.
Not having a reliable painkiller makes me panicky. I don't like taking pills - mine mostly go out of date. I'd rather put up with pain as long as I can (which shows how bad it has been this year). But not having that backup is a horrible feeling.
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Post by peasapie on Feb 7, 2018 11:16:07 GMT
So do these drugs sites mention the side effects of taking 50-300 Imodium tablets? Do they still stop you up in those quantities, or does the body get rid of them? I'm fascinated by how medications work. I haven't taken Benadryl since I was an allergic child, but I remember bouncing off the walls - no sign of drowsiness (sorry Mum!) I had my first Triptan last week for a migraine, and was interested to note that it killed the migraine but did nothing for my abdominal pain. Conversely paracetamol (Tylenol) does very little for me, and I've had allergic reactions to ibuprofen and aspirin, so I'm now experimenting with alternatives. Don't worry, only monthly when required, not recreationally! I've discovered that Zapain (Cocodamol) works for abdominal pain but keeps me awake so I can only take it before 3pm. That sucks when the pain doesn't come on until later in the day. Not having a reliable painkiller makes me panicky. I don't like taking pills - mine mostly go out of date. I'd rather put up with pain as long as I can (which shows how bad it has been this year). But not having that backup is a horrible feeling. That's because triptans aren't regular pain relievers; they work by constricting blood vessels, so they don't alleviate any pain other than migraines. I had the opposite experience when I was in hospital after bladder surgery. I had a migraine plus incision pain (when it rains, it pours) and was given meds for the pain. The incision felt better, but I still had the migraine. :-(
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Post by Katie on Feb 7, 2018 11:31:53 GMT
Those idiots better not make it hard for me to get my immodium!! I don’t need it often, but when I do, it is a major lifesaver!
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 7, 2018 12:13:36 GMT
I can’t muster much sympathy for anyone who is foolish enough to take so much Imodium. And I am tired of people who do this and make it difficult for the rest of us to buy what should be a benign product.
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Post by uksue on Feb 7, 2018 13:06:46 GMT
I saw that! Made me worried that they will make this prescription again. I take a lot of this after my total colectomy. Doc told me a long time ago that Imodium was fine to take in quantities that I do (3 tabs twice a day) and not habit forming! I know people like me ( with a j pouch ) who take 20 a day . It's not habit forming , the only issue is that it can become less effective over time. I've found taking 2 at night along with one codeine phosphate works best for me, and I used to have lomotil for really bad days, but we can no longer get that in the UK 😟
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Post by hop2 on Feb 7, 2018 13:34:06 GMT
I saw that! Made me worried that they will make this prescription again. I take a lot of this after my total colectomy. Doc told me a long time ago that Imodium was fine to take in quantities that I do (3 tabs twice a day) and not habit forming! I know people like me ( with a j pouch ) who take 20 a day . It's not habit forming , the only issue is that it can become less effective over time. I've found taking 2 at night along with one codeine phosphate works best for me, and I used to have lomotil for really bad days, but we can no longer get that in the UK 😟 I was under the impression that is what Imodium was originally created for?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 17:41:24 GMT
OMGosh!! I can't imagine people can be so stupid. But then--
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Post by Tamhugh on Feb 7, 2018 18:06:38 GMT
Benadryl makes me jittery and dizzy, ready to bounce around like a pinball. Several years ago, we took a late night flight to Phoenix and my SIL suggested I take a Tylenol PM to sleep on the plane. I was a mess. My legs shook, I couldn't sit still, and I just wanted to get up and walk. It was a bumpy flight and we had to stay seated the whole time and it had me in tears. After we landed, she said she had forgotten how I reacted to Benadryl or she wouldn't have recommended it. Shame on me for not reading the ingredients.
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Post by ginacivey on Feb 7, 2018 18:26:02 GMT
I don't like the idea of being dead to the world. I don't understand how people get high off of it. I can't even stay awake for 10 mins. I can't imagine taking 50 or more pills at one time to get high and then to be stopped up? Ummm....no thanks! Wow, that is just crazy! What is wrong with people? OMGosh!! I can't imagine people can be so stupid. But then-- i'm glad y'all can't understand that means you aren't an addict nor dealing with one if you are actually interested loperamide fills in the receptors that are screaming for opioids - pills or herion helping ease the pain of withdrawl symptoms without the euphoric (or normalizing) affects now if high doses of loperamide are taken with either cimitidine (tagamet) or ranitidine(zantac) it does cross the blood brain barrier and will create a high a bottle of 400 pills is about 10 lots of stores here have them behind the counter - so they aren't stolen i realize that this is unfamiliar to a lot of people but statements like those above just add to the stigma that engulfs addicts and their families gina
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 20:21:34 GMT
I'd hate my obit say "she died of an overdose of Immodium"
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Post by jlynnbarth on Feb 7, 2018 20:23:40 GMT
I wasn't trying to be offensive ginacivey I just truly don't understand how people get high off of medications that put me to sleep. In fact my whole family is affected the same way as I am, so it's hard for me to understand how it affects different people different ways. My family's addiction of choice is alcohol, so I deal with that instead of drugs and it sucks! It's unfortunate that there are so many of us that are affected by our loved ones choices.
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Post by ginacivey on Feb 7, 2018 20:44:26 GMT
I'd hate my obit say "she died of an overdose of Immodium" it wouldn't....it'd probably say you died tragically then everyone would speculate and not really know what to say to the family left behind people would tiptoe around you and talk about what your parents did wrong addiction is an affliction that people feel okay making jokes about 64K people died from opioid overdose in 2016 a 21% increase from 2015 it outnumbers suicide, car crashes, peak years for AIDS, and peak homicide years our youth is being killed from the inside out - it's everywhere and affects every single socio-economic status this is about much more than poop medicine although i suppose poop jokes are funny gina
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Post by pjaye on Feb 7, 2018 22:08:14 GMT
now if high doses of loperamide are taken with either cimitidine (tagamet) or ranitidine(zantac) it does cross the blood brain barrier and will create a high a bottle of 400 pills is about 10 lots of stores here have them behind the counter - so they aren't stolen i realize that this is unfamiliar to a lot of people but statements like those above just add to the stigma that engulfs addicts and their families gina You have some of the weirdest ideas I have ever encountered. What's your point exactly? that addicts are normal people who happen to take 200 pills of something to get high? and we should just all be OK with it and act like it's perfectly normal and understandable behaviour? It's not. That the idea of taking 50+ tablets of ANYTHING is crazy and by doing it you risk ending your life? There are potential side effects with every known medicine, to take them in massive quantities could potentially be fatal, so to do that and have NO idea what could happen to you as a result *is* crazy behaviour. And like it or not there is a stigma to being an addict, and it's justified. The people making those statements aren't the problem...the addict has the problem, the addict is the one drawing that attention onto their family. . What is it that you don't think everyone else understands as clearly as you do? Addiction is a disease BUT finding new and bizarre ways to get high using OTC medicines is not going to help any manage that disease. I also agree with all of the people who said those addicts will cause the drug to be restricted so that people with other diseases who take those drugs responsibly will end up having trouble buying those medicines when they need them. In Australia codeine is now prescription only. No longer available OTC in any format. The last time I bought nurofen with codeine in it was a year ago when I broke my toe and yes, it does piss me off that at some point in the future I'm going to injure myself and then have to pay $140 for a doctors visit to get a prescription for a medicine that costs about $4. All because some people in society willingly ingest massive quantities of medicines and eventually manage to kill themselves with it.
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Post by pjaye on Feb 7, 2018 22:10:11 GMT
our youth is being killed from the inside out - it's everywhere and affects every single socio-economic status They aren't "being killed" no-one is forcing them, they are willingly taking these risks, taking these drugs and doing it to themselves.
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Post by Rhondito on Feb 7, 2018 23:51:53 GMT
In Australia codeine is now prescription only. No longer available OTC in any format. I can't remember codeine ever being OTC here, so that's nothing new to us. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Feb 8, 2018 0:13:08 GMT
Benadryl is my go-to when I need to sleep. it doesn't knock me out or leave me sleeping for days. Just helps me along to sleep. I always forego prescription pain meds. Advil always works for me. Back in my 20s when I had problems with TMJ I was prescribed muscle relaxers to keep me from clenching my teeth when I slept. It worked only because it gave me insomnia and I didn't sleep. The only drug I've every taken that I could remotely understand why someone would become addicted, I don't know the name of. I was given it when I had my power port inserted. They gave me the drug, strapped me down to the table and went to town inserting the port. I was wide awake and euphoric. It was an amazing feeling and I have full recall of the procedure 9 years later.
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Post by meridon on Feb 8, 2018 1:36:28 GMT
I have mixed results with Benadryl. Sometimes it makes me nice and drowsy and sometimes I feel hung over the next day. And sometimes I'm totally wired and I have to literally pace because I cannot sit still. And it doesn't matter what the dose is, either--I can't be sure that I won't get the adverse effects if I only take one instead of two. Unfortunately, I have extremely sensitive skin and I get contact dermatitis from all sorts of things, so I have to gauge how bad I'm itching with the roulette of which set of side effects I'll get.
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Post by newfcathy on Feb 8, 2018 2:46:36 GMT
I can’t imagine doing that. I am lactose intolerant, and I never travel with out it.
That high a dose & I wouldn’t poop 💩 for a month, d@mn!!!!
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