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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 23:17:10 GMT
I think the key here is if the Russian hackers can cause a nuclear meltdown. I think if it’s just regular power plants they shutdown we can stumble along. But if they can cause nuclear meltdowns in the atomic power plants then that is a whole new ball game. And that, obviously, would be very dangerous for those living in the immediate area and wind path. Nuke plants are a lot more protected than hydro or coal plants. |
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Post by scrappyesq on Mar 16, 2018 23:58:59 GMT
About the Russian hackers targeting our energy grids. They copied information that could be used to gain access to computer systems that control power plants. "It's the kind of access that experts say would have given Moscow the ability to turn off the power if it wanted to." Are you prepared if that happens? If we have no power how would you Survive? I'm not a prepper really. But I do like to be prepared. We live about 13 miles from the nearest town. We do have a water well, but it has an electric pump, I think we could rig up something that would work. We do need to stock more food. How about y'all. Yes. Terrified. I'm not the survivor type so the minute I hear that we have no lights and water I would lose my ever loving mind. And I don't have room to store anything so I'd starve if it was prolonged. ETA: it's not going to change anything at all as far as my day to day. I'll just be the person in the zombie apocalypse telling them to come bite me. A day without a shower or God forbid AC during the summer? Absolutely not. |
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Post by jlynnbarth on Mar 17, 2018 1:01:36 GMT
I’m not scared, but I do have a supply of ready to eat foods that would last a month or two if we were careful. We have been without power for 9 days before, due to a huge wind storm. It sucked. Lol We now have a generator because of it. That’ll keep the fridge and freezer running in the summer so we don’t lose the perishables right away. It stays light til 9:30 in the summer so light is not an issue. If it happens in the winter, the food would go outside in the freaking snow and the generator would run the heater and a light or two. We also have a wood burning fireplace with enough wood for a couple months. My only concern would be having enough water. I’m not that concerned though. We have smart people in this country that would get us up and running asap.
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Post by pepperwood on Mar 17, 2018 1:09:57 GMT
I recommend Ted Koppel's book "Lights Out" which talks about the impact of of a wide spread power outage resulting from hacking into the power grid that could leave a large part of the country without power for months. The power grid is so integrated that someone could hack into a smaller power generator with weak security that could take the whole grid down. I don't scare easily, but it was enough to convince me to stockpile 6 months worth of freeze dried food and water. My biggest fear is the anarchy that would result.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 2:22:56 GMT
Nope. Not scared. 🙂
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Post by katlady on Mar 17, 2018 4:04:06 GMT
No, it is not something I worry about.
A few years back, we had a massive power outage. Power went out countywide just before rush hour. I had coworkers that were stranded at work because they had planned to fill up with gas before going home, but gas pumps need electricity to work. Streets were a mess because the signal lights were not working. Luckily there is a quick onramp to the freeway from my work place, and I purposely got off the freeway at an exit that I knew I wouldn't have major cross streets to try to cross. The electricity came back on after about 12 hours. But there were millions and millions of dollars lost due to food spoilage in grocery stores, restaurants and homes. After that incident, I try to make sure I always have enough gas to make a round-trip to wherever I am going. So, that means, I make sure I can get back home from work without having to refill first. We still don't really stock up on food. It would do no good since we don't have backup energy.
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Post by MsKnit on Mar 17, 2018 4:19:09 GMT
The energy grid is something I've been concerned about for quite some time, Russian or not. (To be clear, I'm not "worried" or losing sleep. It's just something that has been a nagging thought) And I'm not fully convinced that some of the widespread outages we've had in the past (including some of the complete airline grid failures) weren't some sort of tests. I'm not generally a conspiracy theorist but I believe someone has been poking at the fence to find a weakness for a long time. It's the velociraptors  Personally, if the power goes out for a while for any reason, we are screwed. I think I have 1 canned soup, 1 jar of something, and maybe a pouch of tuna in our pantry. Oh, and some brown rice. Not even any bread or snacks. Everything we eat is perishable. When there is ice or possibility of flooding I always think we should stock up just in case, but we never do. Sitting with her ^^^. Our electricity went out due to weather a couple of weeks ago. We were told we would be without for a couple of days. The boy and I went out for coffee & breakfast. Then on to Walmart to pick up some food that didn't need to be heated. We had PB, crackers, and dry cereal. Wasn't a banana in the house. Those are purchased by 2 or 3 bundles at a time. We don't eat canned fruit, rarely canned vegetables. |
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Post by kernriver on Mar 17, 2018 4:25:00 GMT
I'm surrounded by a lot of Mormons. I'll mooch off my family.  In all seriousness, it's a good idea to have food storage. I'm just not into a 30 year supply and grinding my own wheat. I remember my neighbors in the 1990’s my Mormon neighbors were stocking up. Do they still do that? |
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Post by yivit on Mar 17, 2018 13:31:35 GMT
The issue is that our power grids (yes, plural, because there are multiple grids across the country) should NOT be vulnerable to a hacker because they should NOT have external network access, but so many entities have given cybersecurity lip service (if any service at all) that this isn't necessarily the case. Sure, that computer JUST controls a turbine or something so it's not really vulnerable to all these more end-user-system attacks and vulnerabilities... except they ARE because PEOPLE sit at the keyboard and if you have it set up where they can check their mail or get to a vendor web page, it's on the freaking internet. Identifying and properly protecting ICS (industrial control systems) and the systems that access them is an ongoing problem throughout this country (and the world). Even if you do have adequate network protections in place, there's still the insider threat (witting or unwitting insider - witting being really bad stuff like corporate espionage or disgruntled worker and unwitting being Joe User who clicked on something they shouldn't have) and the possibility that someone gets past physical controls with a thumbdrive that's infected or containing deliberately malicious code (STUXNET, anyone?) and inserts it.
Doesn't take nearly as much as you might think to disable a power station at a critical spot in the grid, or to 'appropriate' a water-chilled environmental control system in a hospital or central business district.
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