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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 15:44:41 GMT
Or you can look at it this way. The President of the United States just admitted he can be blackmailed. Blackmailed by...? Stormy? Russia? trump claims there was no affair. If that’s the case why pay Stormy $130,000? If trump is willing to pay hush money about a non event to Stormy it would mean that others, Russia maybe , can expect him to “pay” to keep something quite he doesn’t want out. And apparently it doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. I put “pay” in quotation marks because “pay” doesn’t necessarily mean money. Especially when you are the President of this country.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 3, 2018 15:51:47 GMT
according to the lawyers and legal experts who were discussing this last night, the fact of 'it didn't come from the campaign money!! It was his personal money, so it has nothing to do with the campaign!!' does NOT automatically mean it was NOT a campaign finance violation. Campaign funds OR personal funds-- if it was FOR THE PURPOSE OF INFLUENCING THE VOTE, it WAS a VIOLATION of campaign finance laws. Guilani and Trump are focused solely on where the money came from-- it also matters WHY it was paid and WHEN it was paid. thing is that the money was paid through the Trump Campaign as were several email abut it.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 3, 2018 15:55:18 GMT
oh, Rudy said more than once that it was just a personal thing-- money paid to Cohen on retainer over a period of months, or some nonsensical thing like that. "stuff like that's done all the time" or some babbling thing like that. Paying thousands of money to someone to keep quiet about something that [supposedly] didn't actually happen?
How does that come about, exactly, because I want in on a gig like that!!
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Post by PLurker on May 3, 2018 16:00:58 GMT
Under ordinary circumstances I would think that, but I feel like we are living in some sort of alternate universe lately. Like he is some sort of mutant sewer rat that can withstand nuclear holocaust and come out unscathed. Or maybe his eyes just start to glow and he gains some additional power that only makes him into an angrier rat. I mean if you thought Sharknado was far fetched, I feel like we are several steps deeper into crazy town with this whole shit show. Yes. Every time I think "this is it, they'll never let him get away with this without at least speaking out against him" the GOP turns their backs as if nothing is happening. While I 'agree' with both of you, it's not going to be the GOP that brings him down. They will hold on by there fingernails until when/if they (individually and as a group) decide it's time to save themselves. I was thinking more in line of all the madness that comes out of this something may bring him down other than the obvious 'Russia'. There just seems to be so much to pick from. Something among all this crazy could come to be his "Al Capone's tax evasion." Like Capone having a million illegal balls in the air of corruption- one simple one was grabbed and that brought him down.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 16:04:49 GMT
On a lighter note...
From “Karl the Fog”.
Weather in San Francisco
Jan: 🌧🌧🌧 Feb: 🌦🌤🌦 Mar: 🌤🌦🌤 April: ☀️☀️☀️ May: 🌤☀️🌤 June: ☁️🌥☁️ July: ☁️☁️☁️ Fogust: ☁️☁️☁️ Sept: ⛅️🌤⛅️ Oct: ☀️☀️☀️ Nov: ☀️🌤☀️ Dec: 🌤🌧🌤
Which prompted this exchange ..
Paige Johnson...
“Retweeting for my friends who are still planning summer trips to SF, despite my best guidance.”
Karl the Fog...
”you're a good friend paige”
When I use to cross the Golden Gate Bridge on the way home after work during the summer months I always felt bad for the tourists. There they would be at the bridge all bundled up as the fog came rolling in. Sometimes you couldn’t even see the bridge because it was completely enveloped in the fog. Add to that was the wind. But there they were taking pictures of the fog. 😀
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Post by dewryce on May 3, 2018 16:05:34 GMT
PLurker I'm with you. I just guess I keeping hoping that the checks & balances will work like they're meant to and the party in power will finally start doing the right thing, regardless of the fact that he is the leader of their party.
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Post by pierogi on May 3, 2018 16:51:57 GMT
Well, it worked with “The artist formerly known as Prince.” We could just assign these global puppet masters a groovy symbol. Let’s leave prince out if it and pick something closer to a demon symbol or the devil symbol. Skull and crossbones? That would work for me.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 17:03:59 GMT
Gee I wonder if Fox News will say something like this ?
MSNBC..,,
“Today we’re encouraging all our viewers to read, watch, and listen to a variety of sources, because a better informed public leads to a better world.
#ReadMoreListenMore #WorldPressFreedomDay
readmorelistenmore.com”
I guess I shouldn’t hold my breath waiting.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 17:07:23 GMT
NBC News....
“Feds tapped Trump lawyer Michael Cohen's phones
At least one phone call between a phone line associated with Cohen and the White House was intercepted, a source said.”
Does this mean we get another twitter rant from you know who?
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Post by AmandaA on May 3, 2018 17:56:03 GMT
Well, it worked with “The artist formerly known as Prince.” We could just assign these global puppet masters a groovy symbol. Let’s leave prince out if it and pick something closer to a demon symbol or the devil symbol. I am going to have to suggest another old classic that has stood the test of time.... Mr. Yuck. But perhaps rebranded in some really unnatural looking shade of orange with light circles around the eyes.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 18:04:01 GMT
ummm-- you mean the dossier that was paid for originally by Republicans? The one that had NOTHING to do with the special counsel and investigations being opened? The one that has all the content that's now being found to be true? that one? Why yes, that one! There is a difference between a website funded by a republican donor initially paying for dirt on another republican than a presidential candidate and the DNC deciding to continue digging and funding it, with payment being made thru an attorney. Do share "all the content" that has NOW been found to be true. You can skip the sex stuff since the dossier was talking about pissing prostitutes and not Stormy (as far as I'm aware). Edited: Michael Cohen=Trump's lawyer=payment to Stormy=not disclosed Perkins Coie=Clinton's lawyer=payment to Fusion GPS=not disclosed
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 18:11:37 GMT
Blackmailed by...? Stormy? Russia? trump claims there was no affair. If that’s the case why pay Stormy $130,000? If trump is willing to pay hush money about a non event to Stormy it would mean that others, Russia maybe , can expect him to “pay” to keep something quite he doesn’t want out. And apparently it doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. I put “pay” in quotation marks because “pay” doesn’t necessarily mean money. Especially when you are the President of this country. I'm not disagreeing with the Stormy one night stand and payment. I'm not surprised is my point. Sex, power, greed have been around a long time so it's no surprise. Although this is the first president with this hanging over his head, it's not a first in politics. Look at the governor of Missouri right now, Greitens. I'm sure we all remember John Edwards. This is not new.
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Post by imsirius on May 3, 2018 19:07:13 GMT
imsirius ... just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your twitter roundups. I really enjoy the laughs they bring to the daily onslaught of bad news coming out of Washington. Thank you! I laugh at lots and try to post my faves... like this one
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Post by imsirius on May 3, 2018 19:33:06 GMT
Some tweets from today..
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Post by imsirius on May 3, 2018 19:38:56 GMT
😂😂😂😂
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Post by pierkiss on May 3, 2018 20:36:59 GMT
oh, Rudy said more than once that it was just a personal thing-- money paid to Cohen on retainer over a period of months, or some nonsensical thing like that. "stuff like that's done all the time" or some babbling thing like that. Paying thousands of money to someone to keep quiet about something that [supposedly] didn't actually happen? How does that come about, exactly, because I want in on a gig like that!! I think that this kind of thing does happen a lot though. Where a famous person pays off someone with any accusation just to make the whole thing go away. Kevin Clash comes to mind (Elmo’s original voice and puppeteer). It is not unheard of for a figure in the public spotlight to simply pay money to the person even if the accusations are completely false simply to avoid a scandal. And also, regular people do this all the time with car insurance companies. Some scammer gets into an accident and makes wild and ridiculous claims and the insurance company pays them x amount to make them go away. While I don’t believe that’s what’s going on with Trump, I will recognize that this does happen often.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 3, 2018 20:42:46 GMT
It may happen but I do not participate!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 21:27:04 GMT
Kyle Griffin...
“Robert Mueller has filed a request for 70 blank subpoenas in the Eastern District of Virginia, where Paul Manafort is facing charges including tax fraud and failing to report foreign bank accounts.”
Busy boy.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 21:45:13 GMT
linkFrom ABC News.... “ US soldiers killed in Niger were outgunned, 'left behind' in hunt for ISIS leader”“Four Army special operations soldiers killed in action during an ambush in Niger last October were part of a largely inexperienced and lightly-armed team outmatched by ISIS fighters who exploited bad decisions by U.S. commanders, families of the fallen soldiers and other sources briefed on the military investigation told ABC News.” The article is long but I think worth the read. This is something they need to get the bottom of.
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Post by PLurker on May 3, 2018 22:55:27 GMT
oh, Rudy said more than once that it was just a personal thing-- money paid to Cohen on retainer over a period of months, or some nonsensical thing like that. "stuff like that's done all the time" or some babbling thing like that. Paying thousands of money to someone to keep quiet about something that [supposedly] didn't actually happen? How does that come about, exactly, because I want in on a gig like that!! I think that this kind of thing does happen a lot though. Where a famous person pays off someone with any accusation just to make the whole thing go away. Kevin Clash comes to mind (Elmo’s original voice and puppeteer). It is not unheard of for a figure in the public spotlight to simply pay money to the person even if the accusations are completely false simply to avoid a scandal. And also, regular people do this all the time with car insurance companies. Some scammer gets into an accident and makes wild and ridiculous claims and the insurance company pays them x amount to make them go away. While I don’t believe that’s what’s going on with Trump, I will recognize that this does happen often. with trump though it's not only to avoid scandal that is the problem. It's the possible blackmail as POTUS. sway him to do things that isn't in our best interest or just for that wrong reason. He is no longer just a celebrity but is in a place of power. Two different worlds and pitfalls.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 3, 2018 23:05:58 GMT
The article is long but I think worth the read. This is something they need to get the bottom of. Yes. Kelly did damage to too many people over that attack!!
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Post by pierkiss on May 3, 2018 23:17:11 GMT
I think that this kind of thing does happen a lot though. Where a famous person pays off someone with any accusation just to make the whole thing go away. Kevin Clash comes to mind (Elmo’s original voice and puppeteer). It is not unheard of for a figure in the public spotlight to simply pay money to the person even if the accusations are completely false simply to avoid a scandal. And also, regular people do this all the time with car insurance companies. Some scammer gets into an accident and makes wild and ridiculous claims and the insurance company pays them x amount to make them go away. While I don’t believe that’s what’s going on with Trump, I will recognize that this does happen often. with trump though it's not only to avoid scandal that is the problem. It's the possible blackmail as POTUS. sway him to do things that isn't in our best interest or just for that wrong reason. He is no longer just a celebrity but is in a place of power. Two different worlds and pitfalls. Of course, I absolutely agree. I was just pointing out that this sort of thing is perhaps more common than people know. 😀
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 3, 2018 23:26:10 GMT
It seems NO ONE cares!! Reward reward is what he gets, he must live a lavish lifestye. Bet it is all gone. Pruitt reimbursed himself $65,000 from Oklahoma attorney general campaignBy Gregory Wallace and Sara Ganim, CNN Updated 6:17 PM ET, Thu May 3, 2018 (CNN)A CNN analysis has found that embattled Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt paid himself nearly $65,000 in reimbursements from his two campaigns for Oklahoma attorney general, a move at least one election watchdog has sharply criticized as being recorded so vaguely that there was no way to tell if such payments were lawful. The reimbursement method, which Pruitt used in his 2010 and 2014 campaigns, effectively scuttled two key pillars of campaign finance: transparency about how campaign funds are spent and ensuring campaign funds are not used for personal purchases, according to a former top elections attorney and a CNN review of the documents. Some of the reporting may also violate Oklahoma campaign finance rules, according to research done by the Campaign Legal Center, a nonprofit and nonpartisan group. At EPA, Pruitt is under scrutiny for questionable spending and ethical decisions that have landed him in hot water with investigators and on Capitol Hill. Ethics watchdogs, federal auditors and congressional committees are conducting nearly a dozen inquiries into Pruitt's actions at the agency. During his attorney general bids, records show Pruitt made purchases and then received reimbursement from his campaign -- sometimes thousands of dollars apiece -- rather than having the campaign pay directly for expenses like renting a vehicle or purchasing a meal. When purchases are made directly, the campaign filings would show more details about who received the payments. A lot more at link: www.cnn.com/2018/05/03/politics/epa-scott-pruitt-campaign-reimbursements/index.html
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 0:11:43 GMT
MSNBC....
"I would keep expectations down because the North Koreans are well known for coming to the table when they are under pressure, making promises, and then walking away from those promises."
– @condoleezzarice tells @mitchellreports
She would know, she was involved in the 2005 talks.
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Post by PLurker on May 4, 2018 0:56:58 GMT
MSNBC.... "I would keep exceptions down because the North Koreans are well known for coming to the table when they are under pressure, making promises, and then walking away from those promises." – @condoleezzarice tells @mitchellreports She would know, she was involved in the 2005 talks. expectations? yes, (googled) link
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 1:02:37 GMT
MSNBC...
“White House response to firing Comey:
"Bottom line is, (Trump) doesn't have to justify his decision, he has the authority to fire and hire, and I think every single day we've seen he made the right decision to fire James Comey."
I guess trump really does think he is a dictator.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 1:24:54 GMT
The Maddow Blog....
"Mr. Rosenstein and top F.B.I. officials have come to suspect that some lawmakers were using their oversight authority to gain intelligence about that investigation so that it could be shared with the White House."
Of this I have no doubt.
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Post by ntsf on May 4, 2018 1:28:35 GMT
Fred!!! I love Karl the fog!!! I used to work under the south end of the bridge at Ft point, and tourists would come in, freeze in the wind tunnel and leave!!! and I see the fog on the coast from my house.. when Karl lets me.....
another summer of zero visibility.
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Post by dewryce on May 4, 2018 1:34:59 GMT
MSNBC... “White House response to firing Comey: "Bottom line is, (Trump) doesn't have to justify his decision, he has the authority to fire and hire, and I think every single day we've seen he made the right decision to fire James Comey." I guess trump really does think he is a dictator. Hate to be the one to break it to them, but when it comes to possible obstruction charges he absolutely does have to justify his decision. Just because he has the authority to "hire and fire" does not mean he can't be held accountable for his actions. Not that he has been so far *cough*GOP*cough*
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