imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Jul 25, 2018 23:36:00 GMT
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Jul 25, 2018 23:38:11 GMT
I read that Putin turned him down.
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Jul 25, 2018 23:41:43 GMT
Holy fuck!! Here it is folks! Communist behaviour at its best...
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Post by dewryce on Jul 25, 2018 23:50:41 GMT
Holy fuck!! Here it is folks! Communist behaviour at its best... How this is not considered obstruction I have no idea. This is huge, the step before getting rid of Mueller.
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Post by Merge on Jul 26, 2018 0:06:35 GMT
Holy fuck!! Here it is folks! Communist behaviour at its best... How this is not considered obstruction I have no idea. This is huge, the step before getting rid of Mueller.
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Jul 26, 2018 0:08:07 GMT
It’s Jordan and Meadowws who are spearheading this.
Need 2/3 of Congress to get an impeachment, but all the same, it is terrifying.
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Post by Merge on Jul 26, 2018 0:08:11 GMT
Ultimately, I think the "impeachment" warning is another Trump-directed distraction. Anything to give Fox their news cycle and get the base cheering - because otherwise, they'd have to actually start reporting the news.
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Post by Merge on Jul 26, 2018 0:08:37 GMT
It’s Jordan and Meadowws who are spearheading this. Need 2/3 of Congress to get an impeachment, but all the same, it is terrifying. Yeah, and no way they have the votes. I think it's just a distraction.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 26, 2018 0:18:38 GMT
Holy fuck!! Here it is folks! Communist behaviour at its best... How this is not considered obstruction I have no idea. This is huge, the step before getting rid of Mueller. Mark Meadows, Mr. Tea Party, and Jim Jordan, who apparently had his eyes closed when he was an assistant wrestling coach at OSU and the team doctor was groping young athletes, have filed articles of impeachment. That’s rich. How I hope that this ends up biting both of these schmucks right in the ass.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 26, 2018 0:19:42 GMT
Ultimately, I think the "impeachment" warning is another Trump-directed distraction. Anything to give Fox their news cycle and get the base cheering - because otherwise, they'd have to actually start reporting the news. It absolutely is a distraction, and House leaders have said they don't support it. They're even about to break for over a month. But that doesn't make it any less asinine. Even the threat is unacceptable. Do what we want, quit digging, or xxxxx. Also, again undermining the DOJ and hurting their credibility. And I hate that they're allowing Jordan to use this to boost his image.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 26, 2018 0:22:53 GMT
Does anyone know the other spineless GOP members who co-sponsored this? I've read many articles, can't get the one from The Hill to load, but can't find them listed.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 26, 2018 0:35:39 GMT
Does anyone know the other spineless GOP members who co-sponsored this? I've read many articles, can't get the one from The Hill to load, but can't find them listed. I’ve been trying to find out too. We need to get their names out there in case they are up for election in November.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 26, 2018 0:36:53 GMT
Does anyone know the other spineless GOP members who co-sponsored this? I've read many articles, can't get the one from The Hill to load, but can't find them listed. I’ve been trying to find out too. We need to get their names out there in case they are up for election in November. My thoughts exactly.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 26, 2018 0:57:38 GMT
The Adidas soccer ball Russian President Vladimir Putin gave to President Trump at their summit in Finland appears to contain a chip that can transmit information to nearby cellphones, Bloomberg reported Wednesday. Including videos! It’s Jordan and Meadowws who are spearheading this. Gowdy and Goodlate(SP) are NOT supporting the article!
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Post by pyccku on Jul 26, 2018 3:43:03 GMT
Gosar and Biggs from AZ were signed on. Way to make our state look even more stupid, guys.
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Post by PLurker on Jul 26, 2018 3:58:55 GMT
The Adidas soccer ball Russian President Vladimir Putin gave to President Trump at their summit in Finland appears to contain a chip that can transmit information to nearby cellphones, Bloomberg reported Wednesday. The publication noted that photos of the ball show a logo for a near-field communication (NFC) tag, a chip that is included in the Adidas 2018 FIFA World Cup ball. Russia hosted this year's World Cup. Adidas AG soccer balls, similar to the one Putin presented to Trump during a joint press conference last week, contain a small chip that can send content to mobile devices. Users can hold their phones close to the ball to access videos and competitions, according to Bloomberg. Adidas declined to comment to Bloomberg on whether the device could be used in a Russian cyberattack. The brand's website states that the chip can't be modified. The minute I saw Putin give him the soccer ball that he then tossed to Melania I thought well that could have something in it. Hell, the microwaves are watching us, why not a soccer ball? Seriously though, it did occur to me and that I wouldn't take anything from Putin, knowing there very well could be an hidden motive. and that smug look on Putin's face...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 5:12:32 GMT
Coincident? Putin's eldest daughter, Mariya, runs a children's endocrinology charity. Spectrum Health of Michigan specializes in endocrinology. Computer traffic from Trump Tower and Alfa Bank of Russia was going through Spectrum Health, located in Grand Rapids MI. Spectrum Health is subsidized and counts the Devos family as advisors, board members, donators of $100 million to fund hospital names for mom,etc. (Betsy Devos, Amway Devos, Erik Prince, brother of Betsy, etc....) This computer traffic was from late winter to election day 2016. Trump had to win Michigan to win election. So it appears that Devos got her cabinet position because she allowed the communication with Russia through those computer servers, and not because of her contributions to education. (And as an aside, MIchigan was recently named 50th in nation for services to special needs children, thanks to Betsy's bullsh*t in Michigan) Nothing to see here........................ Can you link the most pertinent articles outlining this? I always had the feeling that Devos was extremely unqualified (as all of Trump's cabinet members are!) for the job. She seems like such a moron. I'd love to see the links with this info!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 26, 2018 6:01:58 GMT
Betsy Devos, Amway Devos, Erik Prince, brother of Betsy, etc Also Eric Prince was Blackwater involved with the torture of prisoners n Iraq or some such. He also arranged one of the meetings in the Seychelles....
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 26, 2018 16:20:06 GMT
The Adidas soccer ball Russian President Vladimir Putin gave to President Trump at their summit in Finland appears to contain a chip that can transmit information to nearby cellphones, Bloomberg reported Wednesday. ummm... ya think?!? any kid who ever watched a Rocky and Bullwinkle episode with Boris and Natasha could have told them that! I'm surprised they even brought the thing back with them. (okay, I actually read the headline, and I see that it's meant to have a chip in, but still- I would NOT trust the mfr's information that the chip could NOT be modified, if Vladimir Putin was giving me a soccer ball...) It absolutely is a distraction, and House leaders have said they don't support it. They're even about to break for over a month. But that doesn't make it any less asinine. Even the threat is unacceptable. I think trying to toss the impeachment out there NOW is fodder for their base while they're back at home... even though it can't actually GO anywhere, and it only has something like 10 signatures on it, when those House members are back at home, they can say 'hey, we're TRYING to do something to stop the 'witch hunt' against poor, persecuted, totally innocent Donald.'
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Post by dewryce on Jul 26, 2018 16:44:11 GMT
It absolutely is a distraction, and House leaders have said they don't support it. They're even about to break for over a month. But that doesn't make it any less asinine. Even the threat is unacceptable. I think trying to toss the impeachment out there NOW is fodder for their base while they're back at home... even though it can't actually GO anywhere, and it only has something like 10 signatures on it, when those House members are back at home, they can say 'hey, we're TRYING to do something to stop the 'witch hunt' against poor, persecuted, totally innocent Donald.' In addition to that, my concern is that this is a test run to see how the public reacts and if they can get away with it for real if it is needed later. Also, priming the pump in a way. The idea is out there now, well before the elections, so the big outrage has time to die down. Then, when they do it for real, the spark won't light as high and there won't be as much blowback.
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Post by pierogi on Jul 26, 2018 17:46:36 GMT
linkOpinion piece from Max Boot in the Washington Post. Note: He is a Republican. “ Without the Russians, Trump wouldn’t have won”“President Trump is willing, under duress, to briefly and begrudgingly admit that Russian “meddling” took place in 2016 before reverting to calling it a “big hoax.” But he always maintains that the plot against America had no impact; he describes it as a “Democrat excuse for losing the ’16 Election.” Faithfully echoing the president, other Republicans, such as House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.), say it’s “clear” that the Russian interference “didn’t have a material effect on our elections.” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders even claims that the U.S. intelligence community reached that conclusion. Not quite. Here is the intelligence community’s assessment, partially declassified in January 2017: “We did not make an assessment of the impact that Russian activities had on the outcome of the 2016 election. The US Intelligence Community is charged with monitoring and assessing the intentions, capabilities, and actions of foreign actors; it does not analyze US political processes or US public opinion.” When then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo claimed last fall that “the intelligence community's assessment is that the Russian meddling that took place did not affect the outcome of the election,” his own agency rebuked him. While the intelligence agencies are silent on the impact of Russia’s attack, outside experts who have examined the Kremlin campaign — which included stealing and sharing Democratic Party emails, spreading propaganda online and hacking state voter rolls — have concluded that it did affect an extremely close election decided by fewer than 80,000 votes in three states. Clint Watts, a former FBI agent, writes in his recent book, “Messing with the Enemy,” that “Russia absolutely influenced the U.S. presidential election,” especially in Michigan and Wisconsin, where Trump’s winning margin was less than 1 percent in each state. We still don’t know the full extent of the Russian interference, but we know its propaganda reached 126 million people via Facebook alone. A BuzzFeed analysis found that fake news stories on Facebook generated more social engagement in the last three months of the campaign than did legitimate articles: The “20 top-performing false election stories from hoax sites and hyperpartisan blogs generated 8,711,000 shares, reactions, and comments on Facebook.” Almost all of this “fake news” was either started or spread by Russian bots, including claims that the pope had endorsed Trump and that Hillary Clinton had sold weapons to the Islamic State. Elsewhere on social media, tens of thousands of Russian bots spread pro-Trump messages on Twitter, which has already notified about 1.4 million users that they interacted with Russian accounts. The Russian disinformation, propagating hashtags such as #Hillary4Prison and #MAGA, reflected what the Trump campaign was saying. The Russian bots even claimed after every presidential debate that Trump had won, whereas objective viewers gave each one to Clinton. Russia also hacked voting systems in at least 39 states, and while there is no evidence that vote tallies were changed, Russians may have used the stolen data to target their social media or shared the results with the Trump campaign. The Senate Intelligence Committee found that “in a small number of states” the Russians may have been able to “alter or delete voter registration data,” potentially disenfranchising Clinton voters. And then there was the crucial impact of the Russian hacks of Democratic documents disseminated primarily by WikiLeaks. The first tranche of stolen documents — more than 19,000 emails and 8,000 attachments — was strategically released on July 22, 2016, three days before the Democratic convention. The resulting news coverage disrupted the Clinton campaign’s plans by creating the impression that the Democratic National Committee was biased against Bernie Sanders and forcing DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz to resign. The second tranche of stolen documents was released on Oct. 7, just 29 minutes after The Post reported on the “Access Hollywood” videotape in which Trump is heard boasting about grabbing women by the genitals. These emails, stolen from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, distracted voter attention by revealing the transcripts of lucrative speeches Clinton had given to Goldman Sachs, a populist boogeyman. A third release of stolen emails, on Oct. 11, revealed that Democratic operative Donna Brazile, while working at CNN, had provided debate questions to Clinton during the primaries and that senior Democratic operatives, who were themselves Catholics, had exchanged emails disparaging Republicans who cherry-picked their faith for political gain. This fueled Trump’s narrative that the election was “rigged” and that the “Clinton team” was, as he said, “viciously attacking Catholics and Evangelicals.” The latter charge, unfair as it was, proved especially important in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania — swing states with lots of Catholic voters. Little wonder that Trump said “I love WikiLeaks” and mentioned its revelations 164 times in the last month of the campaign. “This WikiLeaks stuff is unbelievable,” Trump said on Oct. 12. Eight days later, he marveled, “Boy, that WikiLeaks has done a job on her, hasn’t it?” Now, by contrast, Trump and his apologists pretend that the Russian intervention — including the WikiLeaks revelations — was no big deal. That beggars belief. Even if the Russians had failed, they still attacked our democracy. Yet they didn’t fail: Trump won. Russian disinformation wasn’t the only factor in the outcome and was probably less important in the end than FBI Director James B. Comey’s announcement 11 days before the election that he was reopening the Clinton email investigation. But Watts concludes: “Without the Russian influence effort, I believe Trump would not have even been within striking distance of Clinton on Election Day.” That is the inconvenient truth the Putin Republicans won’t admit.” Max Boot is no longer a Republican. He ... erm .... walked away.
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