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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 14:50:54 GMT
2019 and the F#($*ING NYTIMES is calling shoving your penis in a non-consenting person's face "a little harmless fun"
That they deleted it isn't the issue. THAT THEY PUT IT OUT AT ALL IS.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 14:51:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 18:02:27 GMT
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Post by hop2 on Sept 15, 2019 19:13:47 GMT
Well this is what you get when you approve the nomination of someone who perjures themselves right in front of you in your senate hearing.
( and I’m not even referring to his response to and Ford. He perjured himself long before that part of the hearing. )
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Post by elaine on Sept 15, 2019 19:58:14 GMT
Color me surprised - not.
I predict that there will be a number of sexual assault accusations levied against Kavanaugh throughout his tenure as a Supreme Court Justice.
But the GOP members of the Senate have already proven that they don’t care if they appoint a proven liar and sexual assaulter to the Supreme Court, so absolutely nothing will happen to Boof-er Kavanaugh.
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Post by lucyg on Sept 15, 2019 22:01:28 GMT
2019 and the F#($*ING NYTIMES is calling shoving your penis in a non-consenting person's face "a little harmless fun" That they deleted it isn't the issue. THAT THEY PUT IT OUT AT ALL IS. I was not offended by what they initially said. They did not state it was harmless fun, they said “it may seem” that way, on the way to pointing out why it wasn’t. Badly worded, but not bad intentions.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 15, 2019 22:46:25 GMT
2019 and the F#($*ING NYTIMES is calling shoving your penis in a non-consenting person's face "a little harmless fun" That they deleted it isn't the issue. THAT THEY PUT IT OUT AT ALL IS. I was not offended by what they initially said. They did not state it was harmless fun, they said “it may seem” that way, on the way to pointing out why it wasn’t. Badly worded, but not bad intentions. I agree.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 23:47:31 GMT
2019 and the F#($*ING NYTIMES is calling shoving your penis in a non-consenting person's face "a little harmless fun" That they deleted it isn't the issue. THAT THEY PUT IT OUT AT ALL IS. I was not offended by what they initially said. They did not state it was harmless fun, they said “it may seem” that way, on the way to pointing out why it wasn’t. Badly worded, but not bad intentions. But it DOESN’T even SEEM like HARMLESS FUN! It SEEMS like assault!!!
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Post by dewryce on Sept 15, 2019 23:53:13 GMT
I was not offended by what they initially said. They did not state it was harmless fun, they said “it may seem” that way, on the way to pointing out why it wasn’t. Badly worded, but not bad intentions. But it DOESN’T even SEEM like HARMLESS FUN! It SEEMS like assault!!! I agree. In what ~current~ world could it even possibly come close to seeming like harmless fun for the woman?
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 16, 2019 0:27:29 GMT
Call me a bitch but I hope it keeps coming up for the rest of his sorry ass life. He deserves to have it brought up over and over that lying scum. Also, those who supported his appointment to the highest court in the land need to be regularly reminded of what dumb asses they are.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 16, 2019 0:36:35 GMT
I was not offended by what they initially said. They did not state it was harmless fun, they said “it may seem” that way, on the way to pointing out why it wasn’t. Badly worded, but not bad intentions. But it DOESN’T even SEEM like HARMLESS FUN! It SEEMS like assault!!! There are a lot of people out there who *do* think it was harmless fun college stupid shit. That's part and parcel of the good ole boys club. The statement, IMO, was that it in fact isn't. And is very much an assault.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 16, 2019 0:51:56 GMT
But it DOESN’T even SEEM like HARMLESS FUN! It SEEMS like assault!!! There are a lot of people out there who *do* think it was harmless fun college stupid shit. That's part and parcel of the good ole boys club. The statement, IMO, was that it in fact isn't. And is very much an assault. I’m having a hard time putting into words what bothers me about this. Maybe it’s because we would never say “what may seem like harmless fun” about another serious issues, like racism. Everyone recognizes that it’s not okay, it’s not harmless, it’s not fun, and no one would ever suggest that it was any of those thing. We may not all agree on what constitutes racism, but would we ever say that it “may seem harmless” just because a segment of the population doesn’t get it? It comes across, to me, as legitimizing the notion that it could possibly be harmless fun.
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Post by trollie on Sept 16, 2019 1:01:58 GMT
NONE of this is surprising. None of it. Trump, a man who has admitted on a recording, that he assaults women, was elected president of the United States. Sadly, for political reasons, there is a segment of the population that is a-ok with this.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 16, 2019 1:18:25 GMT
There are a lot of people out there who *do* think it was harmless fun college stupid shit. That's part and parcel of the good ole boys club. The statement, IMO, was that it in fact isn't. And is very much an assault. I’m having a hard time putting into words what bothers me about this. Maybe it’s because we would never say “what may seem like harmless fun” about another serious issues, like racism. Everyone recognizes that it’s not okay, it’s not harmless, it’s not fun, and no one would ever suggest that it was any of those thing. We may not all agree on what constitutes racism, but would we ever say that it “may seem harmless” just because a segment of the population doesn’t get it? It comes across, to me, as legitimizing the notion that it could possibly be harmless fun. I can completely see your pov. I can understand how you might see the media saying it like that maybe gives it some legitimacy. And your racism example, same thing. There are a lot of people who don't know where the line is. Like trollie just said, if it wasn't that way then there's no way anyone would vote for Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 1:38:23 GMT
There are a lot of people out there who *do* think it was harmless fun college stupid shit. That's part and parcel of the good ole boys club. The statement, IMO, was that it in fact isn't. And is very much an assault. I’m having a hard time putting into words what bothers me about this. Maybe it’s because we would never say “what may seem like harmless fun” about another serious issues, like racism. Everyone recognizes that it’s not okay, it’s not harmless, it’s not fun, and no one would ever suggest that it was any of those thing. We may not all agree on what constitutes racism, but would we ever say that it “may seem harmless” just because a segment of the population doesn’t get it? It comes across, to me, as legitimizing the notion that it could possibly be harmless fun. Yeah. That. The Times is saying it MAY SEEM like harmless fun. No!! It MAY NOT be seen as “harmless” fun except by those w no empathy for others and no concept of consent.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 16, 2019 2:04:15 GMT
I’m having a hard time putting into words what bothers me about this. Maybe it’s because we would never say “what may seem like harmless fun” about another serious issues, like racism. Everyone recognizes that it’s not okay, it’s not harmless, it’s not fun, and no one would ever suggest that it was any of those thing. We may not all agree on what constitutes racism, but would we ever say that it “may seem harmless” just because a segment of the population doesn’t get it? It comes across, to me, as legitimizing the notion that it could possibly be harmless fun. Yeah. That. The Times is saying it MAY SEEM like harmless fun. No!! It MAY NOT be seen as “harmless” fun except by those w no empathy for others and no concept of consent. I think *most* people in the entire history of time think/thought violent rape is clearly wrong. I think what happened to Ms. Ramirez is actually much more common and I think there is more of an awareness coming out about just how violating and wrong it is. My only point is that there is still a subset of our population that views this as aboys will be boys thing. I think that is wrong.
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Post by roberta on Sept 16, 2019 2:26:40 GMT
IMO women and girls need to be more aggressive in complaining about, making formal complaints, and literally fighting back. I am NOT saying every time, every situation rather do it more and sooner.
Hmmmm I’m thinking Lorena Bobbit here.....
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Post by artgirl1 on Sept 16, 2019 11:55:17 GMT
IMO women and girls need to be more aggressive in complaining about, making formal complaints, and literally fighting back. This is easier said than done. Often the victim is revictimized again and again during the investigation. We saw that with the treatment of Dr. Ford. And you have to look at these instances in perspective of the time period and the social mores of the time the instance took place. Our enlightenment on sexual assault now is much greater than it was during the eighties or seventies. Last night on '60 minutes' there was a sound bite of the upcoming interview with Chanel Miller, the young woman that was sexually assaulted by Brock Turner (Stanford swimmer) and she talked about hw she has a victim was treated. I think if you ask sexual assault victims what was worse, many would say the treatment by law enforcement, the justice system, and often family and friends was more difficult. I am not excusing women who do not report instances of sexual assault, but only that the victim has to choose what is best for her healing. We have to have some empathy for the decision that she may make. Unless you too have walked in her shoes.............
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Post by pyccku on Sept 16, 2019 12:33:15 GMT
It's weird how it's just "harmless fun"and "boys will be boys" when it happens to a woman. But if a gay dude did the exact same thing to another dude - what are the odds that the man on the receiving end would think it was "harmless fun" vs. a reason to get violent against the perpetrator?
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Post by pierkiss on Sept 16, 2019 12:36:07 GMT
IMO women and girls need to be more aggressive in complaining about, making formal complaints, and literally fighting back. I am NOT saying every time, every situation rather do it more and sooner. Hmmmm I’m thinking Lorena Bobbit here..... So that they can go sit in jail for the next 10 years while the actual perpetrator gets no formal punishment for his (or her) actions leading up to the penis dismemberment?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 16, 2019 12:58:49 GMT
Women are being treated like property. Things.
Things that men can have. Collect. Take. Conquer. Whether willingly or not, at their whim, for whatever purpose.
And God forbid a woman stand up to it.
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