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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 3:56:32 GMT
"An Ionia woman is demanding that Meijer discipline a Petoskey pharmacist and implement a company-wide policy for how pharmacists should handle religious and moral objections to dispensing medication after she was denied a prescription to help complete a miscarriage. Rachel Peterson, 35, alleges a pharmacist at the Meijer store on Lears Road in Petoskey refused to fill her prescription for a drug called misoprostol (brand name Cytotec) in July because of his personal religious views. She says he also refused to transfer the prescription to another pharmacy." www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/2018/10/17/pharmacist-medicine-miscarriage-religious-objection/1600714002/Pharmacist Richard Kalkman, told Peterson he couldn’t fill the prescription because he’s “a good Catholic male.” When she explained that her doctors confirmed the fetus wasn’t viable, he said, “that was just [her] word.” www.aclumich.org/sites/default/files/Meijer%20Letter%20signed%20by%20Steinberg.pdfNever gets old for these pharmacists who decide to get between doctor and patient. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 18, 2018 4:03:25 GMT
This makes me so angry all I can do is sputter. I hope he is fired and never gets a job in a pharmacy again. What a controling asshole. How dare he?
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Post by chlerbie on Oct 18, 2018 4:09:45 GMT
Even though I don't agree with not filling the prescription for religious reasons, I'm even more flummoxed that he then wouldn't transfer it to another pharmacy. What a douche.
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Post by peasapie on Oct 18, 2018 4:12:41 GMT
Time for that guy to find a new career. This one’s not working for him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 4:13:37 GMT
He also discussed the situation w/the patient's mother when she called the pharmacy to get the pharmacist's name. Discussing a patient's medications w/a person other than the patient or the doc, without consent of the patient, is a violation of Michigan law according to the letter at the link.
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Post by mom on Oct 18, 2018 4:15:13 GMT
What an asshole.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 12:33:15 GMT
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Post by janeliz on Oct 18, 2018 12:35:51 GMT
Absolutely infuriating.
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Post by withapea on Oct 18, 2018 12:44:17 GMT
This is one of those recurring things that just makes my blood boil. Do your damn job or change professions! Your religion is your personal business it should not be wielded as a cudgel to harm or place judgement on the people you took an oath to help. It's despicable.
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Post by moodyblue on Oct 18, 2018 13:01:12 GMT
I am another whose blood boils when I read of cases like this.
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Post by eleezybeth on Oct 18, 2018 13:08:17 GMT
 She has a MF'ing prescription - and "that was just her word?" RAGE! Her baby is dead. They are grieving! She isn't picking up a medicine because she didn't want this kid. Can you have no heart?! To do this while she has lost her child because of YOUR religious beliefs? What is that belief - that she should go ahead and die because as a woman she failed to carry God's little gift to life like it is HER fault. Tell me that there is NOTHING wrong with women's rights in this country?
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Post by peabay on Oct 18, 2018 13:13:03 GMT
Oh, screw him. What a jerk. He is the reason women are so pissed off right now.
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Post by Merge on Oct 18, 2018 13:15:18 GMT
‘Murica!
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Post by peabay on Oct 18, 2018 13:16:59 GMT
I want to add that her mom is AWESOME.
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Post by dewryce on Oct 18, 2018 13:24:01 GMT
Oh, screw him. What a jerk. He is the reason women are so pissed off right now. Him and the people who defend him. |
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Post by iluvpink on Oct 18, 2018 13:28:59 GMT
This is so disgusting. Your views are your views. Do your damn job! The doctor gave her a prescription. That right there should be enough.
What an ass.
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Post by guzismom on Oct 18, 2018 13:40:19 GMT
Even though I don't agree with not filling the prescription for religious reasons, I'm even more flummoxed that he then wouldn't transfer it to another pharmacy. What a douche. Yes, that should be illegal. |
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Post by hop2 on Oct 18, 2018 14:02:35 GMT
This makes me so angry all I can do is sputter. I hope he is fired and never gets a job in a pharmacy again. What a controling asshole. How dare he? Nope, this is what will be protected going forward under the guise of religious freedom. HE ( the pharmacist ) wants to exert his power over her. His belief over her health he ‘gets’ to tell her what to do. That exerting his belief into her. If it was just ‘his’ objection he would have transferred the script. But no, *he* knows best and has to exert his belief onto her. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 14:09:59 GMT
I hope we start seeing doctors have in-house pharmacy dispensary so this kind of thing does not happen. If a doctor gives you script fill the damn thing.
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Post by colleen on Oct 18, 2018 14:17:47 GMT
Pharmacist Richard Kalkman, told Peterson he couldn’t fill the prescription because he’s “a good Catholic male.” He isn’t a “good” anything. His license should be revoked. |
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Post by malibou on Oct 18, 2018 14:23:28 GMT
Fucker.
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Post by RosieKat on Oct 18, 2018 14:30:24 GMT
She isn't picking up a medicine because she didn't want this kid. And that shouldn't be relevant anyway. If it's legal and the doctor approves it, his job is to dispense it.* If his conscience dictates otherwise, then find a different job. (And I'm quite open about the fact that I'm anti-abortion.) * I'm fine with a pharmacist questioning something they see that appears to be wrong - I've had them question scripts for my daughter who's allergic to penicillin, and one for me when they were concerned about a possible interaction with another med. The job is not as simple as just dispense the meds - but it is DEFINITELY not the place to be making moral judgments. |
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Post by myshelly on Oct 18, 2018 14:34:41 GMT
In what religion is harming a grieving mother a tenant of faith?
Only in the conservative, male bastardization of Christianity.
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Post by brina on Oct 18, 2018 14:48:45 GMT
If you want to follow your faith to the point of trying to inflict it upon other people you need to choose a career that doesn't affect the health of other people. Become a fucking welder or something.
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Post by Rainbow on Oct 18, 2018 15:12:56 GMT
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Post by eleezybeth on Oct 18, 2018 15:42:45 GMT
She isn't picking up a medicine because she didn't want this kid. And that shouldn't be relevant anyway. If it's legal and the doctor approves it, his job is to dispense it.* If his conscience dictates otherwise, then find a different job. (And I'm quite open about the fact that I'm anti-abortion.) * I'm fine with a pharmacist questioning something they see that appears to be wrong - I've had them question scripts for my daughter who's allergic to penicillin, and one for me when they were concerned about a possible interaction with another med. The job is not as simple as just dispense the meds - but it is DEFINITELY not the place to be making moral judgments. I agree - but if he is anti-abortion she wasn't there for an abortion. This had NOTHING to do with abortion. His stance is invalid. His argument that his conscience is preventing dispensing is null. |
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Post by hop2 on Oct 18, 2018 16:02:47 GMT
And that shouldn't be relevant anyway. If it's legal and the doctor approves it, his job is to dispense it.* If his conscience dictates otherwise, then find a different job. (And I'm quite open about the fact that I'm anti-abortion.) * I'm fine with a pharmacist questioning something they see that appears to be wrong - I've had them question scripts for my daughter who's allergic to penicillin, and one for me when they were concerned about a possible interaction with another med. The job is not as simple as just dispense the meds - but it is DEFINITELY not the place to be making moral judgments. I agree - but if he is anti-abortion she wasn't there for an abortion. This had NOTHING to do with abortion. His stance is invalid. His argument that his conscience is preventing dispensing is null. Thing is, medically it may technically be an ‘abortion’ . I had a miscarriage, the fetus died and didn’t grow for 5 weeks. ( they had 2 sonograms 5 weeks apart no growth) For some reason the doctor felt it was necessary to do a D&Cin the hospital, I do not at this point remember what the reasons were, technically the medical term was something to do with ‘abortion’. |
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Post by katlady on Oct 18, 2018 16:15:13 GMT
And that shouldn't be relevant anyway. If it's legal and the doctor approves it, his job is to dispense it.* If his conscience dictates otherwise, then find a different job. (And I'm quite open about the fact that I'm anti-abortion.) * I'm fine with a pharmacist questioning something they see that appears to be wrong - I've had them question scripts for my daughter who's allergic to penicillin, and one for me when they were concerned about a possible interaction with another med. The job is not as simple as just dispense the meds - but it is DEFINITELY not the place to be making moral judgments. I agree - but if he is anti-abortion she wasn't there for an abortion. This had NOTHING to do with abortion. His stance is invalid. His argument that his conscience is preventing dispensing is null. A miscarriage is also called a “spontaneous abortion”. |
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Post by malibou on Oct 18, 2018 16:23:41 GMT
To my knowledge my diagnosis has never been written on my prescription, because it does not belong there. Therefore he is making assumptions about her based on what that prescription could possibly be for. Yes, a miscarriage is called a spontaneous abortion. That in no way has anything to do with what the general public refers to as an "abortion" when pro life/pro choice is discussed.
I stand by Fucker.
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Post by RosieKat on Oct 18, 2018 16:36:19 GMT
I agree - but if he is anti-abortion she wasn't there for an abortion. This had NOTHING to do with abortion. His stance is invalid. His argument that his conscience is preventing dispensing is null. Thing is, medically it may technically be an ‘abortion’ . I had a miscarriage, the fetus died and didn’t grow for 5 weeks. ( they had 2 sonograms 5 weeks apart no growth) For some reason the doctor felt it was necessary to do a D&Cin the hospital, I do not at this point remember what the reasons were, technically the medical term was something to do with ‘abortion’. I agree, that was probably his mental argument. Stupid and missing the point, but that's probably where he's coming from. And for the record, my understanding is that a situation like this does not even go against the official Catholic Church teachings. (Not trying to create an argument about that, if I am wrong.) (And just since we're discussing it, that's not the type of "abortion" I have a problem with. Medically and technically, I get that it is an abortion. But it's not optional and it's not by choice except for choosing to minimize the drawn out agony that would otherwise ensue. Not allowing this medication is just adding cruelty into an already difficult, emotional situation.) |
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She has a MF'ing prescription - and "that was just her word?" RAGE! Her baby is dead. They are grieving! She isn't picking up a medicine because she didn't want this kid. Can you have no heart?! To do this while she has lost her child because of YOUR religious beliefs? What is that belief - that she should go ahead and die because as a woman she failed to carry God's little gift to life like it is HER fault. 
