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Post by MissBianca on Nov 20, 2018 19:06:03 GMT
How has no one mentioned stewed corn and tomatoes?
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 20, 2018 19:08:24 GMT
I could never live in the south lol I'm almost with you, although I give Louisiana an exception. I could happily eat my way through maryannscraps list. ginacivey , I love the hush puppies story.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 20, 2018 19:13:57 GMT
interesting list, but since I'm not from the south at all, I have no input in the list (except for this: pound cake-- yum!!). But I do have a bit of a tangent question: why doesn't Florida 'get to' (or why isn't Florida considered) part of *the South* ?? After all, it's the southern-most part of the contiguous 48 states. Is what we think of as the iconic *South* really more specifically just the south-EASTern states?
Actually, my question could go for Texas, too, as well as Arizona and any other states that are actually ON the southern US border. Although I know Arizona is it's own SouthWEST, and Texas probably has elements of each (the iconic South and Southwest...) if those states aren't considered part of *the South* then that leads even more credence to my idea that "the South" is meant more for just the south-eastern states.
...just a thought that popped into my head, a la ameliabloomer. (and I've seen that Bitter Southerner website linked here before, I think-- it's pretty interesting!)
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Post by dudleypippen on Nov 20, 2018 19:33:42 GMT
I’m only a Southern by marriage (lived here about 15 years) but I find myself feeling surprisingly defensive about the hallmark Southern dishes. I agree with many of the additions here, but my personal top 7 would include (in no particular order) Brunswick stew Barbecue (I thought I had had bbq when I lived in the Midwest but I was wrong) Fried chicken Fried okra Chess pie Banana pudding Chocolate gravy (only because DH’s family has it every Christmas morning and I still can’t stand it)
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Nov 20, 2018 19:43:21 GMT
We eat other things, too, for the record. My normal meal would be a piece of chicken and some vegetables, or I might make a big pot of chili or taco soup to last several days. Fried chicken, for instance, is occasional or at least for "Sunday after meetin'." I pretty much never eat all the starchy sides - steamed broccoli, a side salad, and mixed vegetables will be choices as well.
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Post by naby64 on Nov 20, 2018 19:46:41 GMT
What is a purple hulled pea? What are PurpleHull Peas? PurpleHull Peas - a great reason for a festival if there ever was one - are close cousins to the more familiar, but less tasty, black-eyed peas. They are members of the "cow pea" or "southern pea" family, just as are black-eyed peas and crowder peas. And, like so many things in our world, they have a far more interesting history than one would suspect. Botanists believe the cow pea originated in Africa, specifically in an area which is now the country of Niger. As a result, these peas were associated with one of our nation's saddest eras. It's believed this family of peas came to America in tandem with the slave trade. Eaten by slaves, and used as a forage crop for livestock (thus the name "cow peas"), whites were initially not attracted to them. However, eventually the white population got wise, and came to appreciate the wonderful flavor of the cow pea, of which the Purple Hull Pea is its pinnacle. And every year, on the last Saturday in June, Emerson, Arkansas pays homage to this wonderful tasty legume with its itinerant and historic past. And because the hull is purple, it stains your fingers and thumbs as you shell them. They are a very buttery pea. Not gritty. Cook them with some ham or in my really bad health days, some fat back(don't ask), they can't be beat. Add a bit of hot vinegar sauce or some tomato chow chow and they are slap ya momma good!! Along with cornbread, non-sweet, and a slice of raw onion.
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Post by SnoopyFan on Nov 20, 2018 19:47:53 GMT
Crawfish etoufee Shrimp and grits Gumbo Jambalaya Red beans and rice Shrimp po boys I'm visiting in Louisiana right now, so that's my list. I was born and raised in South Louisiana, so this list looks perfect to me (except I never had shrimp and grits together until I visited Charleston, SC).
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Post by naby64 on Nov 20, 2018 19:55:13 GMT
We eat other things, too, for the record. My normal meal would be a piece of chicken and some vegetables, or I might make a big pot of chili or taco soup to last several days. Fried chicken, for instance, is occasional or at least for "Sunday after meetin'." I pretty much never eat all the starchy sides - steamed broccoli, a side salad, and mixed vegetables will be choices as well. Heck yeah!! I don't eat most of those things on my faves list. I am in the camp of whole food eating. No added sugar, no grains, that kind of stuff. Do I break down and just need comfort food at times? You betcha!! During holiday season, I have pecan pie, dressing, all the holiday candies and cookies, etc. But the other 11 months of the year are 98% dedicated to healthier eating.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Nov 20, 2018 20:03:40 GMT
interesting list, but since I'm not from the south at all, I have no input in the list (except for this: pound cake-- yum!!). But I do have a bit of a tangent question: why doesn't Florida 'get to' (or why isn't Florida considered) part of *the South* ?? After all, it's the southern-most part of the contiguous 48 states. Is what we think of as the iconic *South* really more specifically just the south-EASTern states? Actually, my question could go for Texas, too, as well as Arizona and any other states that are actually ON the southern US border. Although I know Arizona is it's own SouthWEST, and Texas probably has elements of each (the iconic South and Southwest...) if those states aren't considered part of *the South* then that leads even more credence to my idea that "the South" is meant more for just the south-eastern states. ...just a thought that popped into my head, a la ameliabloomer. (and I've seen that Bitter Southerner website linked here before, I think-- it's pretty interesting!)
I do consider FL part of the South and the Southeast, but I think the number of snowbirds who live or co-live in FL helps with the perception that it is more of a melting pot from different areas.
If you need broader evidence, University of FL and TX A&M are both part of the SEC, and that is right next to the Bible in order of importance!
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Post by roberta on Nov 20, 2018 20:06:33 GMT
Fried Chicken Greens (and pickle juice) Homemade biscuits and Country Ham Pecan pie Black walnut cake
ETA: making it more than 5 Salad is lettuce, half a pear and a blob of mayo Black eyed peas and stewed tomatoes on New Years for good luck Corn pudding Yams / Sweet potatoes Candied carrots
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 20, 2018 20:09:16 GMT
please give me details on this cake! we had black walnut trees in our yard when I grew up (NW Illinois) and we used to pick them up in the fall and pick out nutmeats during the winter. (black walnut hulls are MESSY, and the shells are HARD to crack!!) But I do love the taste of them, plain or in baked goods... English walnuts just aren't quite the same. And LOL at the comment about the SEC and its importance right up there with the bible... you have a point about the inclusion of the Florida and Texas schools. One other random thought this thread brought to mind: growing up, my mom would make bar-b-que... or BBQ as she would write it... only now that I'm grown up and moved away from the Midwest, what she was actually making was sloppy joes. No barbecue sauce anywhere in it at all- just canned tomatoes. I have NO idea where she came up with the name 'barbecue' for sloppy joes; is this a *Barbara* (my mom) thing, or did other Midwesterners grow up calling sloppy joes by the name barbecue, too?
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Post by tracyarts on Nov 20, 2018 20:14:28 GMT
I grew up eating greens (collard, mustard, turnip), pinto beans and cornbread, okra and tomatoes, fried chicken, gizzards and livers, chicken fried steak with cream gravy, sweet potatoes, coleslaw, potato salad, barbecue, pea salad, fried catfish, and chicken & dumplings. Those are my family's versions of Southern food.
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Post by roberta on Nov 20, 2018 20:24:37 GMT
please give me details on this cake! we had black walnut trees in our yard when I grew up (NW Illinois) I will try to find the recipe. It may take some time. My aunt (born in late 1800s) used to make it, she learned from her mom who used nuts from the trees on the farm in Virginia. I have never made it but remember how wonderful it was.
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Post by roberta on Nov 20, 2018 20:31:07 GMT
I grew up eating greens (collard, mustard, turnip), pinto beans and cornbread, okra and tomatoes, fried chicken, gizzards and livers, chicken fried steak with cream gravy, sweet potatoes, coleslaw, potato salad, barbecue, pea salad, fried catfish, and chicken & dumplings. Those are my family's versions of Southern food. Oh my gosh! How could I have left off fried catfish! I ate one as the first fish I ever caught as a child. I kept thinking about how ugly it was!! Potato salad and chicken & dumplings along with peach cobbler were favorites!
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Post by scrappintoee on Nov 20, 2018 20:51:52 GMT
tiffanyr....ROFL over grits being called “ CAT LITTER!!!” 😂 @peano.... I almost fell outta my chair LOL when you replied to chip beef on toast : “WHAT FRESH HELL ?!?” 😂 what a FUN expression I’ve never heard before! Ugh, my Mom was from Illinois and made it very often when we were growing up. All four of us didn’t like it ....but, Mom told us we HAD to eat it, or go hungry..... fun times !!!! “ s**it on a shingle “ suited it very well when we were kids! Yearsssss later, as an adult, I was shopping one time and saw that Stouffer’s makes it. I’m picky about frozen food, but I do love A LOT of Stouffer’s items, so I took a chance and bought one, and surprisingly, I actually kinda LIKED it! But I’ll probably NEVER make it or won’t buy a frozen one again.
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Post by scrappintoee on Nov 20, 2018 21:06:01 GMT
Being from DC/ Northern Virginia, until I moved to Texas, I’d never heard of chicken fried steak .... YUM!!! I had also never heard of Coke, Pepsi, etc. referred to as “soda water” until Texas. I thought people were talking about Club Soda or Perrier, etc.
P.S.... to all my Texas peAps.... my entire family & I “ adopted “ Texas as our HOME ❤️ after living there! Once DH retires, we’re moving back permanently.... we LOVE (and MISS!) our sweeeeet San Antonio !!!!)l
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Post by jenr on Nov 20, 2018 21:14:20 GMT
I’m only a Southern by marriage (lived here about 15 years) but I find myself feeling surprisingly defensive about the hallmark Southern dishes. I agree with many of the additions here, but my personal top 7 would include (in no particular order) Brunswick stew Barbecue (I thought I had had bbq when I lived in the Midwest but I was wrong) Fried chicken Fried okra Chess pie Banana pudding Chocolate gravy (only because DH’s family has it every Christmas morning and I still can’t stand it) Nebraskan here...what the HELL is chocolate gravy?!
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Post by mustlovecats on Nov 20, 2018 21:23:40 GMT
I’m only a Southern by marriage (lived here about 15 years) but I find myself feeling surprisingly defensive about the hallmark Southern dishes. I agree with many of the additions here, but my personal top 7 would include (in no particular order) Brunswick stew Barbecue (I thought I had had bbq when I lived in the Midwest but I was wrong) Fried chicken Fried okra Chess pie Banana pudding Chocolate gravy (only because DH’s family has it every Christmas morning and I still can’t stand it) Nebraskan here...what the HELL is chocolate gravy?! It’s just a chocolate sauce. Cocoa, butter, flour, milk, sugar. I had neighbors who would make it before church on Sundays.
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Post by ginacivey on Nov 20, 2018 21:32:34 GMT
interesting list, but since I'm not from the south at all, I have no input in the list (except for this: pound cake-- yum!!). But I do have a bit of a tangent question: why doesn't Florida 'get to' (or why isn't Florida considered) part of *the South* ?? After all, it's the southern-most part of the contiguous 48 states. Is what we think of as the iconic *South* really more specifically just the south-EASTern states? Actually, my question could go for Texas, too, as well as Arizona and any other states that are actually ON the southern US border. Although I know Arizona is it's own SouthWEST, and Texas probably has elements of each (the iconic South and Southwest...) if those states aren't considered part of *the South* then that leads even more credence to my idea that "the South" is meant more for just the south-eastern states. ...just a thought that popped into my head, a la ameliabloomer. (and I've seen that Bitter Southerner website linked here before, I think-- it's pretty interesting!) I think being ‘The South’ is a cultural thing ,ore than a geographical region. And it does spill over into parts of the surrounding states. Some say it starts with the sweet tea
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Post by maryannscraps on Nov 20, 2018 22:48:57 GMT
Outside of biscuits (without gravy :shudder: ) I would starve In the south. Same, except no biscuits for me either. I do like shrimp and (gluten-free) grits, but I liked them better when I've had them up here with a fresh spin on it, vs everything-cooked-within-an-inch-of-its-life. I didn't care much for it when I had it in New Orleans or Atlanta. Grits are made from corn, so they are naturally gluten free. My SIL has a big pan of shrimp and grits dressing for Thanksgiving -- it looks and smells so good. Can't wait. I love the food down here -- since I consider Louisiana a southern state, I'm going to consider everything I've been eating southern food. Everything has been delicious. I'm looking forward to shrimp-stuffed merlitons tonight. YUM.
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Post by busy on Nov 20, 2018 22:55:21 GMT
Same, except no biscuits for me either. I do like shrimp and (gluten-free) grits, but I liked them better when I've had them up here with a fresh spin on it, vs everything-cooked-within-an-inch-of-its-life. I didn't care much for it when I had it in New Orleans or Atlanta. Grits are made from corn, so they are naturally gluten free. My SIL has a big pan of shrimp and grits dressing for Thanksgiving -- it looks and smells so good. Can't wait. I love the food down here -- since I consider Louisiana a southern state, I'm going to consider everything I've been eating southern food. Everything has been delicious. I'm looking forward to shrimp-stuffed merlitons tonight. YUM. Well, they are... but most are processed on machinery that also processes flour of some kind. I react to grits if I don’t buy certified GF.
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Post by dudleypippen on Nov 20, 2018 23:17:36 GMT
Nebraskan here...what the HELL is chocolate gravy?! It’s just a chocolate sauce. Cocoa, butter, flour, milk, sugar. I had neighbors who would make it before church on Sundays. Yes! My MIL serves it with biscuits for breakfast but it’s never called sauce, always gravy.
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Post by peano on Nov 20, 2018 23:19:45 GMT
Nebraskan here...what the HELL is chocolate gravy?! It’s just a chocolate sauce. Cocoa, butter, flour, milk, sugar. I had neighbors who would make it before church on Sundays. But what do you do with it?
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Post by dudleypippen on Nov 20, 2018 23:36:32 GMT
It’s just a chocolate sauce. Cocoa, butter, flour, milk, sugar. I had neighbors who would make it before church on Sundays. But what do you do with it? Pour it over the biscuits!
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Post by Merge on Nov 21, 2018 0:56:48 GMT
OK, I've been thinking about the seven quintessential SE Texas foods, in no particular order. 1. Tacos. Real tacos, from the taqueria. Not Old El Paso. Also - breakfast tacos. 2. Brisket, smoked. Served with spicy sauce, white bread, jalapeños and pickles. 3. Gulf shrimp or red snapper or oysters, served a variety of ways, many of them Cajun. 4. Pho and banh mi 5. Kolaches 6. Chili 7. Chips and queso
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Nov 21, 2018 1:09:44 GMT
I’m originally from SE Texas and I’ll be the first to admit I think the food is waaaaay better back home than anywhere else. We went to Texas back in March and my yankee husband finally got to taste all the food I talked about for years and he said it was the best food he had ever ate. BBQ and Cajun is what we ate ...he’s not into the more homestyle food like chicken and dumplings.
It’s funny what some people consider the South and others don’t lol.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Nov 21, 2018 3:26:46 GMT
Being that I'm from the Delta, have a Texan mom and spent a good deal of time in SE Louisiana, my Southern essentials list is most likely like no one else's! Here are the foods that I craved when away from the South. They are my comfort foods and there is just no way to limit the list to 6 or 7! Biscuits and homemade jam Fried Chicken Fried Okra Cornbread Barbeque (was raised on Louis Mueller's barbeque) Chicken Fried Steak Tamales Red beans and rice Crawfish Etoufee Seafood Gumbo Pecan Pie Pound Cake
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Post by *Shannon on Nov 21, 2018 3:41:17 GMT
Being from Alabama I want to add to this so badly, but almost every possibility has been covered.
I will add my two cents about The South being more cultural than geographic. Northwestern FL counts, but not the rest of it. Texas doesn't count - it's Texas. I don't count Louisiana - it's it's own glorious thing.
The Cultural South to me is: Mississippi Alabama Georgia Northern FL (mostly NW Florida) part of eastern Arkansas (maybe) Tennessee South Carolina North Carolina southern Virginia
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Post by mlynn on Nov 21, 2018 5:59:56 GMT
Cornbread (cooked in cast iron)
How does the cast iron affect the corn bread? Do you cook it on the stove or in the oven?
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Post by Legacy Girl on Nov 21, 2018 7:02:36 GMT
I vote for anything served at Mrs. Wilkes Dining Room in Savannah. Especially the sweet potato casserole -- my all-time fave!
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