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Post by jamieson on Jan 14, 2019 2:14:19 GMT
Just something to think about when doing ancestry and other dna tests; the companies don't make money on the tests, they make money by selling your dna info.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 14, 2019 2:22:56 GMT
and?
I think we've covered this a million times here already: - some don't care - some are happy to have our DNA used in this way especially to further medical research, human genome research, develop new medications etc - this is where I sit. - those who have the tin foil ready to scrap themselves a hat, won't have the test done anyway.
No-one is being forced to send in their DNA...and if they are at some point or it's going to be used for some nefarious purpose, we'll all be gone by then anyway.
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Post by jamieson on Jan 14, 2019 2:25:34 GMT
I guess I missed the million times this has been discussed. Thank you!
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Post by LeaP on Jan 14, 2019 4:34:16 GMT
Yeah, that is what keeps me from doing it. I am tempted to do the dog though.
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Post by snyder on Jan 14, 2019 4:40:08 GMT
I guess I missed the million times this has been discussed. Thank you! Don't feel bad, I didn't see the post discussing this before either. Not everyone had time to be here 24/7.
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Post by jamieson on Jan 15, 2019 2:07:47 GMT
I guess I missed the million times this has been discussed. Thank you! Don't feel bad, I didn't see the post discussing this before either. Not everyone had time to be here 24/7.
Thanks for being so kind. I have had recent discussions with our genetics counselors, and gained insight into the different tests, their possible repercussions, etc. I always appreciate kindness, and apologize for not being aware of all that's posted here.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Jan 18, 2019 18:53:55 GMT
Yeah, that is what keeps me from doing it. I am tempted to do the dog though. I did DNA test my dog. It was pretty interesting. I sent her DNA without a picture, and it came back with her breeds (6!) and tiers of each. I didn't believe it. So I bought another kit, filled out my mom's information instead of my name, my dog's DNA, and included a picture this time. Got the same exact information. So then I thought it was maybe just not sensitive and they send a generic response with breeds of very common mutts (sorry.. just having no control group data got the scientist in me all fired up.) So, I stole DNA from my sisters AKC papered dog.. and sent that in. Turns out that dog is massively the breed it is supposed to be, but at some point somedoggy in his family tree had an affair. LOL I now believe that my dog is an extremely mutty mutt, and doesn't look anything like the breed that comprises most of her DNA. It was very entertaining!
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Post by Zee on Jan 18, 2019 19:00:39 GMT
Yeah, that is what keeps me from doing it. I am tempted to do the dog though. Me too! At first I thought that was really stupid but I can't stop trying to figure out what kind of hound mix I have! She looks like part beagle, part whippet. I have no idea. I might go ahead and do it but a friend did her dog and he's so much a mutt they couldn't tell. Waste of money.
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Post by colleen on Jan 18, 2019 19:16:44 GMT
We just did our dna through Ancestry -- I thought it was fun. My brother is doing his through 23 and Me, so I will be interested to see the differences. I'm pretty much a mutt like the dogs.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 18, 2019 23:25:54 GMT
I don't consider myself a tinfoil hat wearing person.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 18, 2019 23:26:38 GMT
Well damn I accidently hit the arrow mid type. My reservation is that I don't care to discover any skeletons in my closet. Long lost whomevers.
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Post by ~Sherri~ on Jan 19, 2019 1:39:14 GMT
My husband and I did the Ancestry.com test. Didn't find any long lost family or skeletons. Really didn't find out much of anything, so we felt it was a waste of money.
I am not worried about what they may find with out my DNA. I did a diabetes research test with my doctor's office. They asked my permission to use my blood, anonymously of course, to further diabetes research. I said yes. If it will help a future generation, I am all for it. And if they someday link my DNA, that will be okay too.
I would love to do DNA on our cats. Two of our cats are related, one in an uncle and the other is a nephew. Our neighbor has the great uncle. It would be fun to see what their DNA showed.
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Post by LeaP on Jan 19, 2019 2:12:26 GMT
Yeah, that is what keeps me from doing it. I am tempted to do the dog though. I did DNA test my dog. It was pretty interesting. I sent her DNA without a picture, and it came back with her breeds (6!) and tiers of each. I didn't believe it. So I bought another kit, filled out my mom's information instead of my name, my dog's DNA, and included a picture this time. Got the same exact information. So then I thought it was maybe just not sensitive and they send a generic response with breeds of very common mutts (sorry.. just having no control group data got the scientist in me all fired up.) So, I stole DNA from my sisters AKC papered dog.. and sent that in. Turns out that dog is massively the breed it is supposed to be, but at some point somedoggy in his family tree had an affair. LOL I now believe that my dog is an extremely mutty mutt, and doesn't look anything like the breed that comprises most of her DNA. It was very entertaining! Sooo, inquiring minds want know what were the six breeds and can you please post a picture. I love your scientific method ![:smile:](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by pjaye on Jan 19, 2019 2:23:04 GMT
I don't consider myself a tinfoil hat wearing person. I was only referring to the people who were worried about all the terrible things that unknown persons were going to do with their DNA. I wasn't talking about people who simply had no interest in it. It's just that every time Echo or Google home speakers or DNA testing gets mentioned someone always posts a "aren't you worried...?" thread as if everyone else, apart from them, is too clueless to have ever considered the ramifications and then made their own decision about wether they wanted to go ahead with it or not. Someone recently posted about this selling of DNA and was critical of it being used to fund research into a new drug for Parkinson's Disease. She seemed to think it was a outrageous that people would make money from it. I, on the other hand have absolutely no issue with my DNA being used in this way...and if somewhere down the track has new drug is developed to cure or minimise the symptoms of Parkinson's disease, I'd be pretty happy with that. Who knows, it could be someone I care about, or even me that benefits. Will people make money out of this process along the way? of course they will, but someone somewhere makes money out of everything I do. Should I stop eating because a farmer will make a profit from the food he sells? It's a ridiculous argument. I like the DNA threads, I think my own story is interesting and I like reading other people's stories so they are threads I always open, but guaranteed for every "I had my DNA done" there will be another parallel thread like this from the conspiracy theorists. I resent the implication that those of us who have had our DNA done are just stupid and don't know about or haven't considered the various issues related to this testing. "Just something to think about"...really? what makes you assume we haven't already thought about it, and that you're the only one who knows this?
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 19, 2019 2:27:17 GMT
I understand pjaye. I've just heard so many stories of people finding others they didn't know about and it totally screwing up their families. So maybe I'm a little nuts for being fearful of that. I'll own it.
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Post by quiltz on Jan 19, 2019 2:27:42 GMT
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Post by pjaye on Jan 19, 2019 2:45:14 GMT
I've just heard so many stories of people finding others they didn't know about and it totally screwing up their families. So maybe I'm a little nuts for being fearful of that. I'll own it I think that's a valid reason. I say the exact same thing to my Mother. She has a half brother, her mother was Polish and in a work camp during the war, she went in with 3 children and came out with 4. She refused to tell anyone who fathered that 4th child. The other children were sent to live in a group home on a farm and didn't see their mother for quite some time. Mum keeps pushing him to have his DNA done...and I warn her that she needs to be aware that it *could* show he is not her biological (half) brother. I tell her not to do it if she hasn't fully considered all of the possible outcomes, once it's done, any information can't be un-known again. What if he's part Russian? Does he want to know he might have been a product of rape? Or she could have taken on another woman's baby. Don't do it unless you are ready to deal with the information you may get.
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Post by Quarter Cathy on Jan 19, 2019 8:29:23 GMT
There's always good with the bad. I'm glad I did it. I found family I didn't know I had. Was able to fill in the gaps in my family history. But it always creates more questions. LOL!
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Post by katlaw on Jan 19, 2019 9:45:34 GMT
I understand pjaye . I've just heard so many stories of people finding others they didn't know about and it totally screwing up their families. So maybe I'm a little nuts for being fearful of that. I'll own it. If you want to get the medical info and not be connected to unknown family members you can do that. You have control of how others see your information. I am adopted and have very little info about my medical history. I did the 23 and me one and got some interesting information. I did not put anything on there that anyone possibly related can find me. For example when I click on my Ancestry one of the over 1000 registered users I share DNA with says "We predict CC is your 2nd Cousin" "You share 3.37% of your DNA with CC" and that is all I can see. No other info.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 19, 2019 16:40:32 GMT
Thank you for letting me know that katlaw. I don't want to be connected to anyone. But I would be curious a bit about my heritage. My DS also wants this done. Ex mother was adopted and he never knew his dad. So there are a lot of questions for him. My ex MIL says ex father had three other children older than ex. But she never knew any of them. I told DS that he needed to think really hard about this before he does this. It could turn up people that aren't good.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 21:22:45 GMT
Cool. DH and I went to a Senior Expo and got tons of info on genetic testing for medical diseases, etc. We were both going to do it but when I went to change our appointment, it all seemed fake (no authentic company name, etc).
DH is very interested in doing a DNA test though and find out more about his family. He didn't get to know his grandparents on either side since they died before he was born. He actually wanted me to check here to see which kit was the best.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 22:51:05 GMT
Thank you for letting me know that katlaw . I don't want to be connected to anyone. But I would be curious a bit about my heritage. My DS also wants this done. Ex mother was adopted and he never knew his dad. So there are a lot of questions for him. My ex MIL says ex father had three other children older than ex. But she never knew any of them. I told DS that he needed to think really hard about this before he does this. It could turn up people that aren't good. I did mine through Ancestery. My user name is not my real name. Similar to the username here. I set up a gmail account just for ancestery. My family tree information is set to private (or you can not set up a family tree) It does connect me to people who share dna with me but they don't get any personal info other than my gmail address. I don't have to respond to them. The biggest thing, imo, to be aware of is the dna matches can show up half siblings or close cousins you may not have known about. Whether you make contact or share any personal information is up to you.
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Post by tentoes on Jan 19, 2019 23:30:06 GMT
I have a friend that found a half sister through a DNA check. They were both elated, and have met each other. They even look alike.
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