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Post by wendifful on Jan 17, 2019 18:20:34 GMT
I can't find much more info on this, just the Instagram post. To summarize what WRMK said in some of the comments, it will be in retailers in March. The kit of 3 tips (fine, medium, broad) will be $99 or each tip will be $39.99 by itself. It does NOT work with Minc foil, apparently it is a heat reactive foil, not toner reactive. https://www.instagram.com/p/BsvXh2dgEaI What do you think? I think (provided it works) it sounds like a cool idea. The price seems a bit steep, but I'm assuming the tips heat up, which accounts for the price. I also think it's a bummer it doesn't work with Minc foils, because that's what the majority of us have. I do like that it's compatible with many different die cut machines though. I don't know if I'd buy it, I want to find out more information first. |
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Post by paddingtonpink on Jan 17, 2019 18:39:07 GMT
I have a silhouette and definitely interested in trying this out! Maybe not right away but eventually. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by pancakes on Jan 17, 2019 18:59:00 GMT
I saw this! I like that it is applicable to you existing cutting machine...
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Post by streetscrapper on Jan 17, 2019 20:01:36 GMT
I just saw this a second ago. I love it but I think the price is stupid high!
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Post by joblackford on Jan 17, 2019 20:31:12 GMT
Hmm, that's pretty cool. I can see a lot of small craft businesses investing in a set.
I think the price sounds high, but if you've already spent $200-300+ on a machine maybe it won't seem unreasonable...? But even as I write that, spending almost half as much as I spent on my SNC seems pretty hard to swallow. I guess if I thought I would only need one size it would be more reasonable (but that sounds unrealistic). I'd go for it with 30% off though. How long before they're in Tuesday Morning with the rest of the WRMK tools?
Using heat reactive foil instead of the Minc foil is frustrating, but doesn't that also mean there will be more heat reactive foils on the market, which means we'll options for using foils without buying expensive tools...? I'm already wondering how hot those things get and if there's a tool on the market that would work in it's place for freehand work - I wonder if the Fuse would be too hot?
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Post by wendifful on Jan 17, 2019 21:02:16 GMT
Hmm, that's pretty cool. I can see a lot of small craft businesses investing in a set. I think the price sounds high, but if you've already spent $200-300+ on a machine maybe it won't seem unreasonable...? But even as I write that, spending almost half as much as I spent on my SNC seems pretty hard to swallow. I guess if I thought I would only need one size it would be more reasonable (but that sounds unrealistic). I'd go for it with 30% off though. How long before they're in Tuesday Morning with the rest of the WRMK tools? Using heat reactive foil instead of the Minc foil is frustrating, but doesn't that also mean there will be more heat reactive foils on the market, which means we'll options for using foils without buying expensive tools...? I'm already wondering how hot those things get and if there's a tool on the market that would work in it's place for freehand work - I wonder if the Fuse would be too hot? I think this is a high-tech version of the Heatwave tool that came out a few years ago. I remember those didn't work with the Minc foils either. I don't think that tool was very popular. To me it seemed like a lot of work, which is why I think the die-cut machine version sounds better. But I can see how if you just wanted to add a few accents, the hand tool would be easier. |
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Post by Embri on Jan 17, 2019 21:13:36 GMT
They're going to have to provide a compelling reason why this gadget is better than what's already on the market, and so far I don't see it. What's with the tips? Are they a consumable, or do they offer different effects or something? 'Choose a design' - does that mean from a library, do you have to buy designs, does it take SVG's? Do you need a computer? 'Design Drives' sound suspiciously like cartridges, which I do not care for. There's a distinct lack of information here. How much are the foil sheets, since that's what you're going to be using up on the regular?
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Post by karinec on Jan 18, 2019 0:25:41 GMT
I like the idea but $39.99 for a single tip seems a bit steep, plus the fact that it won't work with Minc foil.
The sample was beautiful though.
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Post by anniefb on Jan 18, 2019 0:31:26 GMT
Hmm interesting but I already have a Minc so not interested until that bites the dust.
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Post by joblackford on Jan 18, 2019 1:35:09 GMT
'Choose a design' - does that mean from a library, do you have to buy designs, does it take SVG's? Do you need a computer? 'Design Drives' sound suspiciously like cartridges, which I do not care for The way I understood it, which may be totally off-base since, as you said, there's very little info yet, was that you could use whatever design formats you wanted that would work with your machine - so you'd make/buy/download/upload/transfer designs the same way you do now for cutting, but instead of cutting or drawing you'd be burning foil onto your material in the given design. I loved that they've made it work with every kind of machine and all you need is a little adaptor. That seems like a very smart move on their part. I would assume that at that price the "quills" would be durable and (relatively) everlasting, and the consumable would be the foil, plus the specialty designs I'm sure they'll have available to buy. But I don't see why people wouldn't be able to use the drawing files they already have to do foiling instead. The durability of the quills shouldn't be an issue - looks like they run off USB power and are made of metal of some kind. But the foil will probably be expensive, especially because I was wondering if you could use up the negatives/leftovers as easily as you can with the toner reactive process. That would be something I'd want to hear more about. |
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Post by wendifful on Jan 18, 2019 2:46:34 GMT
They posted the same video from the Instagram post on YouTube, so now it's easier to see the details. |
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Post by Embri on Jan 18, 2019 2:53:22 GMT
Ah, that does make it clearer. I thought it was a stand-alone machine, not an accessory.
So the different tips are different diameters and not consumables, and the 'quill' works as a plotter - it can only do lines, presumably? Seems expensive for something that's just an add-on for an existing expensive machine that you also have to own, but I guess if you do a ton of foiling it might be helpful.
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 18, 2019 3:43:20 GMT
If you spilt the pack with someone with a Cricut, Silhouette, Sizzix and Brother Machine, well, then you'd be set.
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Post by wendifful on Jan 18, 2019 4:08:51 GMT
If you spilt the pack with someone with a Cricut, Silhouette, Sizzix and Brother Machine, well, then you'd be set. No, I think the pack has one of each of the main tips, then adapters to fit each machine. So you could give the adapters to your friends but they wouldn't have the actual tip that does the foiling. |
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 18, 2019 4:09:30 GMT
If you spilt the pack with someone with a Cricut, Silhouette, Sizzix and Brother Machine, well, then you'd be set. No, I think the pack has one of each of the main tips, then adapters to fit each machine. So you could give the adapters to your friends but they wouldn't have the actual tip that does the foiling. That makes more sense. The tips probably cost a buck or two to make. |
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Post by lilacgal on Jan 18, 2019 11:44:43 GMT
Reading through the YouTube comments, someone asked the price point. The Value Pack, which is $99, includes the fine, medium, and broad tips as well as all four adapters. You can buy the tips individually for $39 which also includes all four adapters. I’m intrigued. I love the foil look but refuse to pay and store a separate machine just for that look. I want to see reviews on it before I even consider purchasing. Some of the WRMK tools can be hit or miss. I anxiously await to see what consumers say after they use it.
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Post by highkeycrafting on Jan 19, 2019 4:54:29 GMT
I am at Creativation and this is supposed to be at their booth, I will stop by and report back.
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Post by lilacgal on Jan 19, 2019 14:04:30 GMT
I have a follow up question. In the YouTube comments WRMK said it worked with activated foils. They then added they should work with most activated foils and will definitely work with WRMK activated foil. My question is what are activated foils? It apparently won't work with Minc...what other foil (aside from WRMK) is out there?
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Post by Embri on Jan 19, 2019 18:50:47 GMT
I'm guessing 'activated foil' means some kind of heat sensitive glue on the back? The rub-on foils are pressure activated.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jan 19, 2019 19:09:35 GMT
I'm guessing 'activated foil' means some kind of heat heat sensitive glue on the back? The rub-on foils are pressure activated. Yep. That's what I understood as well when they mentioned it was heat-activated: the foil has a component that will adhere with the heat the quill is providing during the "impression".
I actually find this a genius product (and I don't even have an electronic cutting machine). It's a very smart expansion on the system many dedicated crafters have invested in, making it that much more versatile. I'm almost surprised WRMK managed to think it up.  The only issue is WRMK's notorious quality inconsistency. Looking forward to the first proper customer reviews! |
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Post by Embri on Jan 20, 2019 3:07:17 GMT
Er, I don't think they 'thought it up'. Heat activated transfers have been around for a long time. There's plenty of options you can run through your home printer or draw on, then apply to fabrics. The same product works equally well - I'd dare to even say better - on paper.
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Post by anniefb on Jan 20, 2019 3:29:15 GMT
It says shipping to retailers in February. I think it's a great idea - pity they didn't come out with it a couple of years ago!
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Post by dasmith2 on Jan 20, 2019 4:45:30 GMT
Too much for me. Neat idea but I’ll stick with designs I can cut out with foil vinyl
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Post by highkeycrafting on Jan 21, 2019 19:45:28 GMT
I did stop by and see this in action and the design they demoed was from the Silhouette store and it was very clean and sparkly. The retail is $99 for the bundle and $40 per quill, the bundle includes 3 different sizes and 4 holders (1 for each popular machine). That bundle also includes a roll of foil. It will be online next month and probably on HSN, then it will go to select JoAnn stores.
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Post by jstblondie on Jan 22, 2019 7:11:54 GMT
I’m very interested in this but I also want to see what the reviews are. Price wise it’s not too bad. There are other foiling systems that are more expensive. I think this will give you a much wider array of images you already have let alone having to buy theirs which will be more bang for your buck. Crafters companion came out with a foiling system to use with there Gemini machine. That was more expensive and you need to buy dies to use it. I think this new foiling system is more affordable. I never bought a Minc because I didn’t have a toner printer and didn’t want to be limited to their designs. So. I might have one of these guys by the end of this year. I have to wait and see if it holds up to what they say.
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Post by pas2 on Jan 22, 2019 13:56:01 GMT
Wonder if it will work with the older Cameo model?
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Post by songbird on Jan 22, 2019 15:15:54 GMT
This is a hard pass from me. I’m not adding another foil tool that uses a different kind of foil from what I’ve already got. I will be checking out what people do with it though.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jan 22, 2019 15:25:52 GMT
I did stop by and see this in action and the design they demoed was from the Silhouette store and it was very clean and sparkly. The retail is $99 for the bundle and $40 per quill, the bundle includes 3 different sizes and 4 holders (1 for each popular machine). That bundle also includes a roll of foil. It will be online next month and probably on HSN, then it will go to select JoAnn stores. Those select stores never include the 2 in my state so looks like scrapbook companies under the AC umbrella don't want everyone's business. As per usual. |
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Post by customscrap on Jan 22, 2019 22:12:00 GMT
I am very interested in this as I don't buy lots of dies so wasn't interested in the other. However, I have lots of foil that would be used for with a laminator and now I read here I would have to buy different foil, that is very disappointing to me. The other foil lays down with heat so what is so special about their foil. I am waiting for reviews before I invest.
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Post by htstepper on Jan 22, 2019 23:53:57 GMT
I'm intrigued and I would love this for my Silhouette. I'm hoping that I can use a coupon at Joann's. A 40-50% would make it affordable.
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The only issue is WRMK's notorious quality inconsistency. Looking forward to the first proper customer reviews! 
