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Post by bc2ca on Jan 20, 2019 3:28:03 GMT
I have no doubt these kids are behaving in a way that makes their parents proud. #MAGA
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2019 3:33:03 GMT
This makes me sick. If that was my child, I would be so angry and humiliated. They are from a Catholic school? What are they learning? Sadly, I think the hateful attitudes on display likely originated with the parents of most of these young men. I'm sure many of the parents are taking perverse joy in the way their little bigots are behaving. The future Republican Party....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 3:35:09 GMT
Here's the info on that kid and his school: NAME: NICHOLAS SANDMANN SCHOOL: COVINGTON CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL Here are the contacts: Covington Catholic High School: Principal Robert Rowe E-mail: browe@covcath.org Telephone: (859) 491-2247 Diocese of Covington: Phone: 859-392-1500 Email: info@covdio.org Diocesan Board of Catholic Education Superintendent, Michael Clines: (859) 392-1500 E-mail: mclines@covdio.org Assistant Superintendent, Karen McGuire E-mail: kmcguire@covdio.org
ETA: I felt compelled to write an email to the Principal, having been a Catholic school girl and having learned to have respect for my elders, etc........ I was suspended a few times for even looking at a nun the wrong way. These kids need to learn a good lesson here.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Jan 20, 2019 3:39:49 GMT
I have no doubt these kids are behaving in a way that makes their parents proud. #MAGA And the chaperones were either not keeping tabs on those kids, or they were letting this horrible scene play out (condoning the behavior of the students). Either way, I'm not impressed with the adults who were on the trip.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 20, 2019 3:50:42 GMT
The archdiocese said the matter was under investigation and students could be expelled. Hopefully full scale!! But not so likely. Notre Dame should be thrilled one of their hats was visible up front!!
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 20, 2019 3:59:31 GMT
I can’t even watch the whole thing. I want to smack that shit eating grin right off of that kid’s face. Mr. Phillips handled it with such grace and dignity. He’s a much better person than I am. I cant think of time when I've ever felt provoked to violence by someone else's child. I know I wouldn't actually do it, but that kid my fingers are itching to smack.
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Post by AnotherPea on Jan 20, 2019 4:22:26 GMT
I hope these despicable little fuckers suffer some very painful consequences I hope it ruins their futures. There is video evidence of their lack of class. Quoting this just as an example... First, I believe thie behavior is despicable. I’m not excusing it at all. But I am confused as to why there are so many replies saying posters hope these kids’ futures are ruined but on other threads I read “just a kid” when someone mentions crimes committed by teens.
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Post by huskergal on Jan 20, 2019 4:25:22 GMT
I hope it ruins their futures. There is video evidence of their lack of class. Quoting this just as an example... First, I believe thie behavior is despicable. I’m not excusing it at all. But I am confused as to why there are so many replies saying posters hope these kids’ futures are ruined but on other threads I read “just a kid” when someone mentions crimes committed by teens. Which threads and it depends upon the crime. People who commit crimes do have it follow them for the rest of their lives. It is difficult to make it back into society if you have been incarcerated. These are privileged "Christian" boys who are making a conscious choice to show complete disrespect to a person and the whole group cheers him on. That is a sick, bully, mob mentality.
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Post by huskergal on Jan 20, 2019 4:28:03 GMT
Someone on twitter called the young man standing in front of Nathan Phillips, "Smirky McFuckFace". Nailed it.
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Post by heather on Jan 20, 2019 4:33:55 GMT
Covington is not too far from me. If Smirky McFuckFace/other students stay in this area, they will do just fine...or get rewarded for their behavior.
‘Merica.
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Post by AnotherPea on Jan 20, 2019 4:36:58 GMT
I don’t have a specific thread so I’ll make up a situation: 17 year old minority that mugs a 50 year old white man vs a private schooled white 17 year old that bullies a Native American veteran. Does one deserve more grace than another? Should both have ruined futures? Are both the product of their upbringing?
Wish I knew how do multiple quotes while on my phone- I wish we could hear from the chaperones. Why didn’t they stop this long before it got that far? I suspect they were sitting off to the side @@. And they were there to protest a women’s march? What the heck?
Why can’t kids wear MAGA hats while on school field trips? Just because you disagree with the campaign slogan doesn’t mean it’s inappropriate for high school students.
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Post by huskergal on Jan 20, 2019 4:44:07 GMT
I don’t have a specific thread so I’ll make up a situation: 17 year old minority that mugs a 50 year old white man vs a private schooled white 17 year old that bullies a Native American veteran. Does one deserve more grace than another? Should both have ruined futures? Are both the product of their upbringing? Wish I knew how do multiple quotes while on my phone- I wish we could hear from the chaperones. Why didn’t they stop this long before it got that far? I suspect they were sitting off to the side @@. And they were there to protest a women’s march? What the heck? Why can’t kids wear MAGA hats while on school field trips? Just because you disagree with the campaign slogan doesn’t mean it’s inappropriate for high school students. Because to them it means: Make America White Again. This is a perfect example. Did the black kid mug the guy because he has no money? What excuse do these boys have for what they did?
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jan 20, 2019 7:00:58 GMT
I hope that their parents deal with them appropriately. Little shits. Unfortunately I'm tipping that any kid who wears a MAGA hat most likely has parents who would approve of this bullshit and are probably proud of the little shit. I fear that you may be right.
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 20, 2019 7:04:41 GMT
I don’t have a specific thread so I’ll make up a situation: 17 year old minority that mugs a 50 year old white man vs a private schooled white 17 year old that bullies a Native American veteran. Does one deserve more grace than another? Should both have ruined futures? Are both the product of their upbringing? Wish I knew how do multiple quotes while on my phone- I wish we could hear from the chaperones. Why didn’t they stop this long before it got that far? I suspect they were sitting off to the side @@. And they were there to protest a women’s march? What the heck? Why can’t kids wear MAGA hats while on school field trips? Just because you disagree with the campaign slogan doesn’t mean it’s inappropriate for high school students. They were there for the March for Life, an anti-abortion march.
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 20, 2019 7:14:01 GMT
I don’t have a specific thread so I’ll make up a situation: 17 year old minority that mugs a 50 year old white man vs a private schooled white 17 year old that bullies a Native American veteran. Does one deserve more grace than another? Should both have ruined futures? Are both the product of their upbringing? Wish I knew how do multiple quotes while on my phone- I wish we could hear from the chaperones. Why didn’t they stop this long before it got that far? I suspect they were sitting off to the side @@. And they were there to protest a women’s march? What the heck? Why can’t kids wear MAGA hats while on school field trips? Just because you disagree with the campaign slogan doesn’t mean it’s inappropriate for high school students. This is from the other thread, but one of them was proudly tweeting it on his (now private) twitter account. Where were the chaperones on that field trip, and why weren't they stopping such disrespectful behavior? Except now his twitter is private. Big surprise. What do you think these boys and their parents think of the Gillette ad? They probably think the ad is all mean and unfair to men and stuff and that the boy's behavior is fine because "boys will be boys".
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Post by rodeomom on Jan 20, 2019 7:16:58 GMT
I'm so disgusted with this I can't even......... The man was performing a ceremony to honor Native Americans who had died in Vietnam. He is also a Vietnam Vet. As some of you might remember my brother in law was killed in Vietnam and was Choctaw. This feels very personal to us. My husband had tears in his eyes today when seeing this. It feels like these kids spat on his brother who died for this country. What must these kids be hearing at home to think this was ok?
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Post by lurkyloo on Jan 20, 2019 7:23:48 GMT
I hope it ruins their futures. There is video evidence of their lack of class. Quoting this just as an example... First, I believe thie behavior is despicable. I’m not excusing it at all. But I am confused as to why there are so many replies saying posters hope these kids’ futures are ruined but on other threads I read “just a kid” when someone mentions crimes committed by teens. I did a lot of illegal shit as a teen. Like, a lot. Not once did I ever get in an elderly war vet’s face and incite a riot to degrade his ancestry. That’s next level hatred bullshit, right there. That’s not typical teen crime. In 7th grade I did slap a girl’s face hard when she called my Vietnamese friend and her sister “rice pickers” and pulled her eyes tight with her fingers. Even though I went on to a colorful high school career of ingesting illegal substances, breaking and entering, stealing cars, and other escapades, I had my basic morals down. That kid is garbage, and his friends are garbage. I suppose I’m skeptical that he can one day become the kind of person to be absolutely horrified by his behavior.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 20, 2019 7:30:13 GMT
I don’t have a specific thread so I’ll make up a situation: 17 year old minority that mugs a 50 year old white man vs a private schooled white 17 year old that bullies a Native American veteran. Does one deserve more grace than another? Should both have ruined futures? Are both the product of their upbringing? Wish I knew how do multiple quotes while on my phone- I wish we could hear from the chaperones. Why didn’t they stop this long before it got that far? I suspect they were sitting off to the side @@. And they were there to protest a women’s march? What the heck? Why can’t kids wear MAGA hats while on school field trips? Just because you disagree with the campaign slogan doesn’t mean it’s inappropriate for high school students. I wouldn’t say that I want their lives to be ruined. I hope there are consequences, but I don’t think they will learn from them. The attitudes that they expressed seem to be pretty typical for their school and families since so many of them were wearing the hats and joining in on the harassment. I think they and their families will claim to be victims and not change their attitudes whatsoever. As for the MAGA hats or other clothing,..imo, it has become a symbol of racism and reflects poorly on someone who wears it.
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Post by wellway on Jan 20, 2019 9:28:10 GMT
Having read this thread and the BBC coverage I can't bring myself to watch the video, I would be so so mad for the rest of the day.
The boys might see a bigger reaction from the school and diocese than they or their parents expect because the Church is under the microscope and the Church gets protected first. We can only hope.
I compare this school trip to any of the trips my dd has taken, home and aboard. Firstly, every meeting before trips emphasised that the children represented themselves, their parents and their school. Any unacceptable behaviour would result in being sent home by the quickest way possible at the parents expense. One of the trips was to the Normandy beaches, cemeteries and a memorial service for the fallen. Not one child was disrespectful. Her state school with no religious ties could teach these kids a thing or two about respect.
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Post by cade387 on Jan 20, 2019 9:54:19 GMT
I don’t have a specific thread so I’ll make up a situation: 17 year old minority that mugs a 50 year old white man vs a private schooled white 17 year old that bullies a Native American veteran. Does one deserve more grace than another? Should both have ruined futures? Are both the product of their upbringing? Wish I knew how do multiple quotes while on my phone- I wish we could hear from the chaperones. Why didn’t they stop this long before it got that far? I suspect they were sitting off to the side @@. And they were there to protest a women’s march? What the heck? Why can’t kids wear MAGA hats while on school field trips? Just because you disagree with the campaign slogan doesn’t mean it’s inappropriate for high school students. I can’t tell if you are serious or not, but on the chance that you aren’t a troll.... On our field trips (and in our school as well) there were rules that you couldn’t have slogans of any kind. No identifying marks and nothing political, even most logos were not allowed. You are there representing the school. On some field trips were not even allowed to wear anything identifying what school we were with. As an aside - put that photo next to Brett Kavanaugh. That smarmy grin is there. That is who these people turn into. Heck, that could be Squee Jr in the back for all we know. If this stunt means he doesn’t get to go to his privileged college or loses a sports scholarship then so be it. We don’t need more of these folks moving up in the world. Maybe it will take him down a peg or two. Then again, maybe his parents are already starting his “calendar” that he was boofing this weekend and anywhere near the March. I’m tired of Catholics being this stupid and the whole religion getting blamed. If there are republicans who can say their party is getting highjacked, I feel the same about Catholics. We are not all like this.
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Post by AnotherPea on Jan 20, 2019 10:17:25 GMT
I don’t have a specific thread so I’ll make up a situation: 17 year old minority that mugs a 50 year old white man vs a private schooled white 17 year old that bullies a Native American veteran. Does one deserve more grace than another? Should both have ruined futures? Are both the product of their upbringing? Wish I knew how do multiple quotes while on my phone- I wish we could hear from the chaperones. Why didn’t they stop this long before it got that far? I suspect they were sitting off to the side @@. And they were there to protest a women’s march? What the heck? Why can’t kids wear MAGA hats while on school field trips? Just because you disagree with the campaign slogan doesn’t mean it’s inappropriate for high school students. They were there for the March for Life, an anti-abortion march. Ahh, thanks for sharing. I was going on the captions since I couldn’t open the video.
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Post by pyccku on Jan 20, 2019 11:11:27 GMT
Here's the info on that kid and his school: NAME: NICHOLAS SANDMANN SCHOOL: COVINGTON CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL Here are the contacts: Covington Catholic High School: Principal Robert Rowe E-mail: browe@covcath.org Telephone: (859) 491-2247 Diocese of Covington: Phone: 859-392-1500 Email: info@covdio.org Diocesan Board of Catholic Education Superintendent, Michael Clines: (859) 392-1500 E-mail: mclines@covdio.org Assistant Superintendent, Karen McGuire E-mail: kmcguire@covdio.org
ETA: I felt compelled to write an email to the Principal, having been a Catholic school girl and having learned to have respect for my elders, etc........ I was suspended a few times for even looking at a nun the wrong way. These kids need to learn a good lesson here.
Are you sure that’s the correct kid? I had seen that there was a similar looking kid who was identified, but he wasn’t at the march - he was at a wedding in another state. I would hate for the wrong kid to get the torches and pitchforks.
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Post by maryannscraps on Jan 20, 2019 11:26:46 GMT
So, the MAGA crowd gets all up in arms at Colin Kaepernick taking a knee at football games because it's so disrespectful to veterans. Yet, directly disrespecting veterans is okay if you wear the hat?
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Post by gillyp on Jan 20, 2019 11:30:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 13:47:05 GMT
It only took a few hours for "fake news"
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2019 13:52:30 GMT
The parents will possibly be of a similar, nasty, calibre surely? I’d bet good money those kids picked up their hatred and self-supremacy at home, and their actions are fully known and supported by their families. It’s part of the whole MAGA ethos. More like the priest there...
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2019 13:53:35 GMT
Do the little shits not realize that Native people have more right than they have to be there? WT actual F They don't know history as dt doesn't either! Sadly, I think the hateful attitudes on display likely originated with the parents of most of these young men. I'm sure many of the parents are taking perverse joy in the way their little bigots are behaving. Yes, learned it at home! If someone wore one of my hats and acted publicly in this horrible manner I would definitely make it known that I did not share their views or condone their actions. BUT he does share their views!! Always nice seeing MAGA prats showing blatant disrespect for Vietnam Vets, when the head MAGA prat didn't have the balls to serve himself. Oh, Mr bone spurs? Catholic HS = Bret Kavanaugh More out of that school....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 14:02:22 GMT
Here's a video w/some context.
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