lindas
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Post by lindas on Feb 1, 2019 23:49:44 GMT
Should he stay in office or resign? link
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 2, 2019 0:08:08 GMT
So we have two threads about this now?
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Post by teach4u on Feb 2, 2019 0:22:59 GMT
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lindas
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Post by lindas on Feb 2, 2019 0:24:01 GMT
So we have two threads about this now? Sorry I didn't see the other thread.
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Post by elaine on Feb 2, 2019 0:34:28 GMT
I voted for him and donated to his campaign. I think that he needs to resign. As soon as possible.
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Post by mustlovecats on Feb 2, 2019 0:40:04 GMT
I voted for him and donated to his campaign. I think that he needs to resign. As soon as possible. I had sincerely hoped he would have national political ambition. But this is inexcusable.
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Post by elaine on Feb 2, 2019 0:47:59 GMT
I voted for him and donated to his campaign. I think that he needs to resign. As soon as possible. I had sincerely hoped he would have national political ambition. But this is inexcusable. I have a lot of personal stuff going on, which I’m sure contributes to my feelings, but I am very sad and disappointed about this. I really liked all that I knew of and heard from Northam. That he did this is racist, awful, and there is no excuse. None. He needs to step down.
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Post by mustlovecats on Feb 2, 2019 0:58:17 GMT
I had sincerely hoped he would have national political ambition. But this is inexcusable. I have a lot of personal stuff going on, which I’m sure contributes to my feelings, but I am very sad and disappointed about this. I really liked all that I knew of and heard from Northam. That he did this is racist, awful, and there is no excuse. None. He needs to step down. I hope things get better for you Elaine.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 2, 2019 0:59:50 GMT
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Post by elaine on Feb 2, 2019 1:08:01 GMT
I have a lot of personal stuff going on, which I’m sure contributes to my feelings, but I am very sad and disappointed about this. I really liked all that I knew of and heard from Northam. That he did this is racist, awful, and there is no excuse. None. He needs to step down. I hope things get better for you Elaine. Thank you. We have found a placement for my son and are admitting him on Tuesday. He doesn’t know. Lots of crying by both my husband and myself when the boys aren’t around.
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Post by MichyM on Feb 2, 2019 1:11:13 GMT
I hope things get better for you Elaine. Thank you. We have found a placement for my son and are admitting him on Tuesday. He doesn’t know. Lots of crying by both my husband and myself when the boys aren’t around. Elaine, I’m sitting in my hairstylists chair so I have to be brief but I just want you to know I’ll be thinking of you all over the few days, weeks, and longer. This had to be a tough as hell decision to make.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 2, 2019 1:12:51 GMT
As for the current governor of Virginia, I would like to see what his actions tell us about who he is before I judge him solely on a photo from 35 years ago. Was that an isolated incident? Did he engage in similar behavior on a regular basis?
Yes, the pictures are disgusting. But I can guarantee you that I knew a lot of people who dressed up in “tasteless” costumes back then and never gave it a second thought. Today it is considered racist to wear a sombrero for Halloween, but back then it was just a costume. If he did this regularly, or used racist language on a regular basis, then I would judge him harshly. I would be even harder on him if there is evidence that he continued this type of behavior over the years.
This isn’t a case of “boys being boys.” But it could be a case of someone just not being culturally aware. I grew up in a very white community, and I was 16years old when I first met a person of color. I know I used phrases that were racist (“call a spade a spade” for example) but stopped when the racism was pointed out to me. I definitely benefited from white privileged long before the term was coined, and I had a hard time understanding different perspectives. I NEVER dressed in blackface or Klan gear, but there was a time I might have laughed at someone who did.
But when you know better, you need to do better. That’s the test I apply to Robert Byrd, and that is the test I apply to this governor.
He has apologized and said it was wrong. Now I want to know more about his actions since then.
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Post by tentoes on Feb 2, 2019 1:13:33 GMT
I hope things get better for you Elaine. Thank you. We have found a placement for my son and are admitting him on Tuesday. He doesn’t know. Lots of crying by both my husband and myself when the boys aren’t around. I am so sorry Elaine. ((HUGS)) and prayers to you and to your family.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 2, 2019 1:15:12 GMT
I hope things get better for you Elaine. Thank you. We have found a placement for my son and are admitting him on Tuesday. He doesn’t know. Lots of crying by both my husband and myself when the boys aren’t around. I'm glad they found a placement. But hugs that it's breaking your heart.
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Post by dewryce on Feb 2, 2019 1:17:03 GMT
I hope things get better for you Elaine. Thank you. We have found a placement for my son and are admitting him on Tuesday. He doesn’t know. Lots of crying by both my husband and myself when the boys aren’t around. I missed this, didn’t know this was something you were having to consider. I’m so sorry, such a difficult decision to have to make. Am I remembering correctly that he has autism? Different type of facility, but I used to be a case manager for an MHMR group home, DH worked with me. Man did DH and I love those boys! And it was a really good place for most of them, absolutely to their benefit. I’m sure the same will be true for your son. I’ll be thinking of your family and hope the transition goes well. Big (((hugs)))to you.
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Post by Jili on Feb 2, 2019 1:20:25 GMT
Thank you. We have found a placement for my son and are admitting him on Tuesday. He doesn’t know. Lots of crying by both my husband and myself when the boys aren’t around. Elaine, I’m sitting in my hairstylists chair so I have to be brief but I just want you to know I’ll be thinking of you all over the few days, weeks, and longer. This had to be a tough as hell decision to make. Agreed. I’m sorry that you have to deal with all of this.
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Post by femalebusiness on Feb 2, 2019 1:20:38 GMT
Don't you read what you post? He is dead. This is probably why you think like you do. You don't read.
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Post by mikklynn on Feb 2, 2019 1:40:42 GMT
My knee-jerk reaction was he must resign immediately. But, I would like to know his actions in more recent years. Has he fought for equality? Actions speak louder than words. elaine Hugs and prayers, my friend. I hope better days are ahead for you and your family.
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Post by J u l e e on Feb 2, 2019 1:49:15 GMT
I hope things get better for you Elaine. Thank you. We have found a placement for my son and are admitting him on Tuesday. He doesn’t know. Lots of crying by both my husband and myself when the boys aren’t around. I'm so glad you found a placement for him, although I know it breaks your heart. I hope the benefits outweigh the heartbreak and he thrives! HUGS
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Post by teach4u on Feb 2, 2019 1:54:18 GMT
If you act like this in medical school and support the taking of a baby’s life after birth you’re prettt much a monster.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 2, 2019 2:01:57 GMT
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 2, 2019 2:33:38 GMT
Hmm, I cringed when I saw it - I suppose all things being equal he probably should resign. People can evolve (and he likely has), but it was definitely a poor choice to do that - even 30 years ago. I'm actually surprised it didn't come out during his candidacy, tbh.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 2, 2019 2:37:26 GMT
I hope things get better for you Elaine. Thank you. We have found a placement for my son and are admitting him on Tuesday. He doesn’t know. Lots of crying by both my husband and myself when the boys aren’t around. *gentle hugs* Elaine. I'm so sorry - even if you know in your heart its the right thing for your family, its still a heartbreaking decision.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 2, 2019 2:52:30 GMT
If you act like this in medical school and support the taking of a baby’s life after birth you’re prettt much a monster. Did I mishear? I thought he said allowing a baby to die, naturally, without medical intervention after birth. I've heard several conservatives allude to killing an already born baby. But there is a big difference between killing a baby and allowing it to die.
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Post by elaine on Feb 2, 2019 2:52:51 GMT
Hmm, I cringed when I saw it - I suppose all things being equal he probably should resign. People can evolve (and he likely has), but it was definitely a poor choice to do that - even 30 years ago. I'm actually surprised it didn't come out during his candidacy, tbh.Me too. I wish it had- he would have lost out on a good percentage of the NoVA vote.
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Post by elaine on Feb 2, 2019 2:53:45 GMT
Thank you. We have found a placement for my son and are admitting him on Tuesday. He doesn’t know. Lots of crying by both my husband and myself when the boys aren’t around. *gentle hugs* Elaine. I'm so sorry - even if you know in your heart its the right thing for your family, its still a heartbreaking decision. Thank you. This is way harder than cancer and all its surgeries and chemo.
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Post by teach4u on Feb 2, 2019 2:55:59 GMT
He said the doctor and mom should decide the doctor can kill it.
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Post by redhead32 on Feb 2, 2019 2:59:17 GMT
He said the doctor and mom should decide the doctor can kill it. Read a source besides LifeNews or Brietbart, please. www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690468965/failed-virginia-bill-sparks-national-debate-about-abortionHis statement was about a child that was in need of resuscitation. Quote from the transcript (within the NPR article): RALPH NORTHAM: So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. MCCAMMON: And President Trump called those comments terrible. And other Republicans have accused Northam of supporting infanticide. Northam responded with a press conference a little while ago today. He is a pediatrician. And he's counseled families in tough situations, he said. He says Republican lawmakers are trying to score political points here and that they should not interfere in these difficult decisions.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 2, 2019 3:00:49 GMT
*gentle hugs* Elaine. I'm so sorry - even if you know in your heart its the right thing for your family, its still a heartbreaking decision. Thank you. This is way harder than cancer and all its surgeries and chemo. Absolutely. I can see my sister in the same exact position at some point, so nothing but empathy here. Sending up prayers for your family.
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Post by elaine on Feb 2, 2019 3:01:05 GMT
One can only hope that the username isn’t reflective of profession. Because reading comprehension is lacking.
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