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Post by yivit on Mar 13, 2019 1:17:25 GMT
I hope everyone remembers this event when they think they may be a helicopter parent. Girl, you ain't got nothin' on these moms!
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Post by Jennifer C on Mar 13, 2019 1:22:56 GMT
My oldest is a dual credit ap honor student with a 3.8 gpa 10th grader. Her choice school is UT Austin and Texas A&M (we are a divided family.) She texted me when TMZ broke the news and then came to my room almost in tears cause she's more or less knocking UT off her list. She just realized, I think, that we are not rich and can't grease the wheels. I told her it was something we'd have to wait out and see. (UT is my school.) Jennifer doesn't matter what her GPA is it matters what her rank is in her class, but i am sure you know that. Yes, we do. Right now she's in the top 6% of her class so fingers crossed. Jennifer
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 1:29:55 GMT
So, Felicity was arrested at gun point this morning. Apparently she knew it was coming. Lori still hasn't been arrested yet but her husband has. Someone posted on pg 4 I believe she was. But ABC LA hasnt said so so who knows
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Post by mom on Mar 13, 2019 1:39:57 GMT
So, Felicity was arrested at gun point this morning. Apparently she knew it was coming. Lori still hasn't been arrested yet but her husband has. Someone posted on pg 4 I believe she was. But ABC LA hasnt said so so who knows Yeah, it was probably me. LOL TMZ (and CNN) were for reporting she had been arrested but now they are saying no. But she will turn herself in tomorrow. LINK
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Post by Sarah*H on Mar 13, 2019 1:42:26 GMT
When he got home after work, my husband walked in and said to DS "Well, now you know that your mom and I are NOT among the 800 most crazy parents in America." There are obviously so many layers of privilege involved in college admissions these days, this is just a more extreme example. I can't help but think about the thousands of kids who have tried to do it right - gotten the grades, played the sports, won the competitions, studied for the tests - who have been staring today at rejections from the same schools these families just bought their kids into. My son's middle class friend with his perfect GPA, perfect ACT and his perfect SAT subject tests and his multitude of school sports and activities and international science awards who got deferred ED from one of those schools. And then the kids who don't start with the privileges that allow them to always get the grades, play the sports, etc. and who never even bothered to try for these schools because the deck was always stacked against them. Things are broken in this economy and society and this is just one more symptom of it.
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 13, 2019 1:43:19 GMT
lol, you're not. Although I was thinking it was almost like a Lori Loughlin Lifetime movie. A lifetime movie was the last thing I saw her in. I saw on my Buzzfeed earlier a list of "14 Felicity Huffman tweets that are now awkward". Many of them were of her calling William H. Macy her partner in crime. Or this tweet from Lori Loughlin in June 2013: "My kids will love this fun fact! UberFacts: Research shows homework has no academic value and students are usually given too much." Rather appropriate considering her DD Olivia said she really wanted the “experience of game days” and “partying,” before admitting, “I don’t really care about school, as you guys know.” She also “I don’t know how much of school I’m going to attend, but will talk to my deans and everyone,” Olivia said while describing how she will balance out her busy schedule. Yeah, I saw that. That's gotta be the most expensive buy in to a frat girl lifestyle at a university, ever.
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 13, 2019 1:45:13 GMT
When he got home after work, my husband walked in and said to DS "Well, now you know that your mom and I are NOT among the 800 most crazy parents in America." There are obviously so many layers of privilege involved in college admissions these days, this is just a more extreme example. I can't help but think about the thousands of kids who have tried to do it right - gotten the grades, played the sports, won the competitions, studied for the tests - who have been staring today at rejections from the same schools these families just bought their kids into. My son's middle class friend with his perfect GPA, perfect ACT and his perfect SAT subject tests and his multitude of school sports and activities and international science awards who got deferred ED from one of those schools. And then the kids who don't start with the privileges that allow them to always get the grades, play the sports, etc. and who never even bothered to try for these schools because the deck was always stacked against them. Things are broken in this economy and society and this is just one more symptom of it. Honestly, that's what has stuck out the most to me. The kids who played it fair, and by the *known* rules and lost out, are the ones to really pay for it.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 13, 2019 1:54:59 GMT
So, Felicity was arrested at gun point this morning. Apparently she knew it was coming. Lori still hasn't been arrested yet but her husband has. Do you think she'll be too old to play herself in the movie about this? The role of a lifetime on Lifeitme.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 1:59:14 GMT
I hope everyone remembers this event when they think they may be a helicopter parent. Girl, you ain't got nothin' on these moms! That just reminded me of the Texas cheerleader mom. Anyone else remember that?
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Post by Jennifer C on Mar 13, 2019 2:01:16 GMT
I hope everyone remembers this event when they think they may be a helicopter parent. Girl, you ain't got nothin' on these moms! That just reminded me of the Texas cheerleader mom. Anyone else remember that? My dd's best friend is a HS cheerleader who just tried out and made varsity. We made jokes about this while waiting for the results. Jennifer
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Post by prettyprettypaper on Mar 13, 2019 2:23:54 GMT
I haven't read the details, but my guess is the "dirty" SAT/ACT proctor changed the answers after the test was administered, and all the kids left. I don't think it was a matter of a different kid taking the test, so the issue of matching the ID to the kid probably didn't come into play. It's a paper and pencil test, so it wouldn't be difficult for a proctor/administrator to go in and erase wrong answers and bubble in correct answers in the time between collecting all the tests and mailing them to The College Board. The test is usually given on a Saturday, so after the kids leave, there would be virtually no one around to witness the changes. That's just my guess. I have no idea how it actually happened. ETA: I'm also guessing that there was a leak at The College Board who gave out the answers to the proctors/administrators.Otherwise the proctor would have had to take the test to get the answers. I'm surprised that they are still using paper and pencil for something like the SAT/ACT these days!
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Post by prettyprettypaper on Mar 13, 2019 2:30:20 GMT
I'm not buying the fact that the students didn't know what was going on. Im not either. BUT lets just say they didn't....can you imagine the humiliation of knowing your parents had to pay a school to fake your scores because they didn't think you were smart or talented enough? I would be devastated if it came out my parents rigged the system and got caught. It completely goes against my core values. I'd feel like such a hypocrite, stressing the importance of honesty and working hard to my kids -- and that doing our best is what's most important, even if we're not #1 in everything we do -- and then turning around and buying their way into a college. Also, as a college student myself presently (I returned to school when my youngest started kindergarten), I really feel that is unfair for someone to take up a seat that could have been taken by a student who earned their way there, rather than having their parents buy the seat for them. I do think it is possible that some students may not have known what their parents did, though, just because I know there are some parents who would go to great lengths to have THEIR dreams for their children come to fruition.
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Post by 16joy on Mar 13, 2019 2:43:50 GMT
have the Feds said who paid the 6 million? I've looked and can not find it.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 13, 2019 2:46:57 GMT
I think “arrested at gun point “ is not accurate.
They knocked on her door.
She stated that the FBI came armed, as is normal but did not mention that weapons were drawn.
The FBI stared that all FBI agents will be armed, per their norm.
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Post by canadianscrappergirl on Mar 13, 2019 2:50:41 GMT
I was watching Don Lemon and there was guy on there Frank Brunitalking about other ways people cheat the system. He was comparing wealthy parents who hire a for lack of a better word an advisor to guide the student from grade 7 to graduation on what classes to take, sports to play and what extra curricular activities to take in order to get into certain colleges and universities by knowing what those said schools need. As he put it the school is casting a freshman class. The parents pay anywhere from 40 to 70000.
I personally don't think that is in the same class as these charges. Yes it reeks of privilege but at least the kid has to take the AP classes/ do the sport or extra curricular activity to beef up their applications.
What I can't get over is the amount of money some "donated" to get their kid in school.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 13, 2019 2:59:44 GMT
Also, as a college student myself presently (I returned to school when my youngest started kindergarten), I really feel that is unfair for someone to take up a seat that could have been taken by a student who earned their way there, rather than having their parents buy the seat for them. I wonder how many people agree with you on this but who still support Elizabeth Warren.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 13, 2019 3:09:02 GMT
Also, as a college student myself presently (I returned to school when my youngest started kindergarten), I really feel that is unfair for someone to take up a seat that could have been taken by a student who earned their way there, rather than having their parents buy the seat for them. I wonder how many people agree with you on this but who still support Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren’s parents bought her a seat in college that she didn’t earn? Oh, and I’m certain that you see your hypocrisy in bringing Elizabeth Warren to the conversation not so long after hand slapping @megmc for bring up trump, whose father DID give millions to pave his way into college. Unearned. IOKIYR...
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Post by busy on Mar 13, 2019 3:28:32 GMT
Also, as a college student myself presently (I returned to school when my youngest started kindergarten), I really feel that is unfair for someone to take up a seat that could have been taken by a student who earned their way there, rather than having their parents buy the seat for them. I wonder how many people agree with you on this but who still support Elizabeth Warren. What the hell are you doing? You complain that libs can’t keep politics out of anything and yet you’re the one who keeps bringing up politics when no one else is talking about them on this thread.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Mar 13, 2019 3:32:26 GMT
CNN is reporting that Mossimo Giannulli's bond was set at $1 Million. Felicity Huffman's was set at only $250,000. Both surrendered their passports and have travel restricted to the US. Wonder if Lori Laughlin will have bond set as high as her husbands?
Locally, the teacher who works for the College Board/ACT had bond set to $20,000 and was ordered not to administer any tests during the case. The president of the local tennis school/camp had bond set at a secured $50,000 because they felt he might be a flight risk. One of the parents , John Wilson, of Hyannis Port, Massachsetts, was also arrested by FBI Houston agents in Houston Tuesday and appeared in federal court. Prosecutors were seeking a $1 million secured bond because of his strong ties to Europe. They were uncertain as to why Wilson was in Houston.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 3:35:53 GMT
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Post by inkedup on Mar 13, 2019 3:53:29 GMT
Also, as a college student myself presently (I returned to school when my youngest started kindergarten), I really feel that is unfair for someone to take up a seat that could have been taken by a student who earned their way there, rather than having their parents buy the seat for them. I wonder how many people agree with you on this but who still support Elizabeth Warren. I thought politics were irrelevant to this discussion?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 13, 2019 3:58:16 GMT
I wonder how many people agree with you on this but who still support Elizabeth Warren. I thought politics were irrelevant to this discussion? IOKIYR
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 13, 2019 4:06:53 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 13, 2019 4:18:52 GMT
Sure. I mentioned up thread that if the parents had donated directly to the college it would have been 'legal'. It is done all the time, done in public.... plaques on buildings, rooms etc. Done in hospitals etc..... It is done through the administration, not secretly to a coach or teacher or whomever.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 13, 2019 4:18:53 GMT
I wonder how many people agree with you on this but who still support Elizabeth Warren. I thought politics were irrelevant to this discussion? Does that mean that you consider Elizabeth Warren taking advantage of opportunities that were reserved for Native Americans is somehow different from very wealthy people taking advantage of spots that were reserved for the best students? It only becomes political if these are found to be different because Warren is a politician. But if you consider her as an academic who got an advantage she wasn't entitled to, it's not different at all. To forestall any question about her heritage or what the DNA test she took means or does not mean, the obvious answer here is that Warren is not now nor has she ever been on the Native American rolls. That should have been the end of it right there. When I was a freshly minted college graduate - back when the dinosaurs were still roaming - I told my new employer that I was native American. Not only was I born here, but my ancestors had been here for 300 years. If that didn't make me native, what did? Nope. No go. I was not Native American, they could not claim me as a Native American employee (and get the benefits of hiring a Native American) and that was it. Period. I was naive, didn't know any better, and was firmly corrected. What's Warren's excuse? If you think that's different from buying or cheating your way into college, that's your opinion. My opinion is that it's the same damn thing.
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Post by inkedup on Mar 13, 2019 4:24:40 GMT
I thought politics were irrelevant to this discussion? Does that mean that you consider Elizabeth Warren taking advantage of opportunities that were reserved for Native Americans is somehow different from very wealthy people taking advantage of spots that were reserved for the best students? It only becomes political if these are found to be different because Warren is a politician. But if you consider her as an academic who got an advantage she wasn't entitled to, it's not different at all. To forestall any question about her heritage or what the DNA test she took means or does not mean, the obvious answer here is that Warren is not now nor has she ever been on the Native American rolls. That should have been the end of it right there. When I was a freshly minted college graduate - back when the dinosaurs were still roaming - I told my new employer that I was native American. Not only was I born here, but my ancestors had been here for 300 years. If that didn't make me native, what did? Nope. No go. I was not Native American, they could not claim me as a Native American employee (and get the benefits of hiring a Native American) and that was it. Period. I was naive, didn't know any better, and was firmly corrected. What's Warren's excuse? If you think that's different from buying or cheating your way into college, that's your opinion. My opinion is that it's the same damn thing. Not interested in playing this game of semantics with you. I just found it amusing that you so loudly complained about the evil libs making everything about politics...and then, you followed by turning this into an attack on liberals. It seems like you are itching for an argument, but you won't get it from me.
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Post by busy on Mar 13, 2019 4:29:01 GMT
Deleted my post because this thread isn’t the place for it and I doubt facts are going to change anyone’s mind anyway. Sadly.
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 13, 2019 4:36:08 GMT
One of the local families made their donations to USC and Singer from their charitable foundation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 5:00:30 GMT
Not the point of this thread, but FH looks so different to me in a lot of the pix accompanying this story. Attachments:
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Post by busy on Mar 13, 2019 5:02:47 GMT
Not the point of this thread, but FH looks so different to me in a lot of the pix accompanying this story. I think most people look pretty different day-to-day than when they’re attending events related to their profession that will include them having a lot of photos taken and a team of people styling them.
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