DEX
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Post by DEX on Mar 31, 2019 14:25:39 GMT
Biden kissed meI am not sure that Biden would be my choice for Democratic nominee (Too old, political establishment, rich white guy, etc.). But I noticed that after Amy Klobachar announced her candidacy it came out that she was a demanding boss.  Now, I see that Joe Biden is being portrayed as, in my words, “a dirty old man”. Seriously, if trump can admit to, “grabbing them by the pussy” and still be elected dictator, how do you feel about this latest scandal with Biden? Will we ever have a candidate like Mother Theresa?
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Post by pierkiss on Mar 31, 2019 14:28:31 GMT
There have been a lot of stories about Biden being a “touchy-feely” kind of guy. I was not surprised when this story came out, and I don’t think it will be the only one.
Above everything else, this is the reason I do not want Joe Biden to be the D candidate.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 14:31:59 GMT
The mud slinging never stops.
That's the beauty of being billionaires - lots of money to fund lots of agit-prop.
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 31, 2019 14:50:50 GMT
What exactly is a slow kiss on the back of the head?
Weird
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Post by lucyg on Mar 31, 2019 15:07:21 GMT
I just wanted to say that as far as I know, Joe Biden isn’t rich. Sure, comfortable, upper middle class, but I believe he’s one of the few people who did not get rich serving in Congress.
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Post by tentoes on Mar 31, 2019 15:08:08 GMT
I always liked Biden until I saw photos of him with little girls standing in front of him, and he strokes their hair, puts his hands on their shoulders, and plants a kiss on the top of her head. I just think that is kind of creepy.
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Post by trollie on Mar 31, 2019 15:24:44 GMT
Honestly, the Democratic nominee needs to be fresh, new and younger. This applies to Bernie too.
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Post by trollie on Mar 31, 2019 15:26:10 GMT
Seriously, if trump can admit to, “grabbing them by the pussy” and still be elected dictator, how do you feel about this latest scandal with Biden? Will we ever have a candidate like Mother Theresa? Right??!! Not that sexual harrassment is ever appropriate... The pussy grabbing comment along with a plethora of others should have sunk Trump's ship. |
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 31, 2019 15:35:53 GMT
Honestly, the Democratic nominee needs to be fresh, new and younger. This applies to Bernie too. I'm a homer and I like Hickenlooper. The man has never ran a negative campaign ad. He did pretty well by Colorado. He only pissed me off a couple of times. |
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Post by lisae on Mar 31, 2019 15:45:55 GMT
We never had perfect candidates; we just didn't know. Or if we knew we let it slide because there wasn't Facebook, Twitter, places like this forum to talk about everything wrong with every candidate at any time of the day. We didn't have cable news with 24 hours a day to fill with something, anything, to talk about on candidates.
I don't know what Biden did or didn't do. He hasn't even declared his candidacy yet. My biggest concern with Biden is age.
I hope we get a well qualified nominee with good ideas, but...
The main thing we need in 2020 is a Democratic nominee who can win. That is at least 80% of my criteria. Whatever they stand for, whatever they have done as long as they aren't doing illegal things right now, I'll vote for that candidate over Trump. I might take a few illegalities if I thought they weren't worse than what I suspect Trump is pulling with his kids installed in the White House and still running his businesses.
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Post by lizacreates on Mar 31, 2019 15:46:51 GMT
Has Biden even announced his candidacy? I know these instances pale in comparison to Trump’s, but it’s a different time – women aren’t going to dismiss these actions as just Joe being avuncular. Apart from this he’s been criticized for possibly using his influence while VP to pave the way for his son’s lucrative dealings in Ukraine (I don’t know if it’s true or not). Also, accusations of shilling for MBNA, the credit card company that gave his son a job, when he was senator. He's got a very, very long record in politics so there's plenty there the GOP can weaponize against him. I know he’s polling high, but these issues will dog him throughout and do damage to the party. I don’t think he should run even if people think he’s the best candidate to defeat Trump. I mean, we have 15 or 16…it’s not like we have a dearth of candidates, and many of them don’t have the kind of baggage Biden has.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 31, 2019 15:49:11 GMT
What? You expected less mudslinging with Trump? Digging up dirt, real or imagined, on his opponents has been his M O for 2 decades. I expect the mudslinging to reach new levels we have never seen before.
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Post by mom on Mar 31, 2019 16:12:56 GMT
There have been a lot of stories about Biden being a “touchy-feely” kind of guy. I was not surprised when this story came out, and I don’t think it will be the only one. Above everything else, this is the reason I do not want Joe Biden to be the D candidate. As always, you say what I feel. I like Joe. Probably more than 80% of the other D candidates. But this will be why I don't vote for him. |
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Post by pierkiss on Mar 31, 2019 16:42:04 GMT
There have been a lot of stories about Biden being a “touchy-feely” kind of guy. I was not surprised when this story came out, and I don’t think it will be the only one. Above everything else, this is the reason I do not want Joe Biden to be the D candidate. As always, you say what I feel. I like Joe. Probably more than 80% of the other D candidates. But this will be why I don't vote for him. Yep. I have a very real problem of conscious of who I will vote for if it comes down to Biden vs Trump. I despise Trump, so I’ll go with whoever is running against him. But I won’t feel good about that vote. |
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Post by trollie on Mar 31, 2019 16:50:56 GMT
Honestly, the Democratic nominee needs to be fresh, new and younger. This applies to Bernie too. I'm a homer and I like Hickenlooper. The man has never ran a negative campaign ad. He did pretty well by Colorado. He only pissed me off a couple of times. Will have to check him out. Hadn't heard of him. We need someone electable like a previous poster stated and I would like a diverse ticket with a POC or a female nominee. (Doesn't matter if they are the Presidential or VP nominee, but we need the ticket represent more of America.) |
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Post by mom on Mar 31, 2019 16:53:15 GMT
As always, you say what I feel. I like Joe. Probably more than 80% of the other D candidates. But this will be why I don't vote for him. Yep. I have a very real problem of conscious of who I will vote for if it comes down to Biden vs Trump. I despise Trump, so I’ll go with whoever is running against him. But I won’t feel good about that vote. I agree. But I don't think Biden will run. I think this is going to scare him. And it should. The fact he doesn't 'feel' like he did anything inappropriate is concerning. I think there's been enough old, white guys who don't think they did anything wrong. I don't see how the D party can just sit by, and ignore this any more. There has to be someone better that doesn't have the sexual inappropriate baggage Joe does. While they wont have all the years experience (most likely), there has to be someone that is down to earth with a plan. Now if they would please step forward... |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 31, 2019 17:24:47 GMT
The fact he doesn't 'feel' like he did anything inappropriate is concerning. I think there's been enough old, white guys who don't think they did anything wrong. Agreed. This particular incident is current, a few years ago, not 20, 30, or 40 years ago... Times have changed but what happened a few years ago is relevant. I have been retired for 7 years and this issue was discussed in our 'sexual harassment' classes before that time. So again a few years go is relevant with Biden. |
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Post by lauradrumm on Mar 31, 2019 17:46:19 GMT
We will see if the Dems shoot themselves in the foot and saddle us with this current clown for 4 more years🙄. What happened to dignity?
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Post by hop2 on Mar 31, 2019 18:06:32 GMT
I'm a homer and I like Hickenlooper. The man has never ran a negative campaign ad. He did pretty well by Colorado. He only pissed me off a couple of times. Will have to check him out. Hadn't heard of him. We need someone electable like a previous poster stated and I would like a diverse ticket with a POC or a female nominee. (Doesn't matter if they are the Presidential or VP nominee, but we need the ticket represent more of America.) I want to not like Corey Booker, he’s all photo op & no substance, but he is really good at the photo op. Knows just what people want to hear. Truth is I did vote for him for Senator. I’d rather he not run for President. But he keeps saying shit I agree with. It difficult to ignore or dislike a candidate that says thing you agree with. Even when I don’t like him. I can’t wait to see what the tweeter in chief digs up out of Bookers closet & how the Russian bots will run with it. There have always been rumors about him. Once the Russian bots get done with Joe Biden he will be running a pedophile ring from a pizza shop. Oh wait ....... |
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Post by Zee on Mar 31, 2019 18:40:09 GMT
I'm not voting for him but it sure wouldn't be over a kiss when our current president bypasses that altogether and just grabs 'em in the pussy. Maybe Biden should be more forceful if he wants to win votes. Lol I hate this country right now... I never thought I'd ever feel that way or say such a thing.
Actually it's not my country I hate, it's just half the people in it. 😪
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Post by SockMonkey on Mar 31, 2019 18:44:27 GMT
I do not want Biden to be the candidate. I find him problematic, though likeable.
I think a major difference is that Democrats tend to hold our own more accountable than Republicans, from what I've seen.
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Post by quinlove on Mar 31, 2019 18:45:16 GMT
I’ll vote for any dem candidate. Heck - I’d almost vote for any GOP candidate bedsides the asswipe in the Oval Office right now !
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Post by Just T on Mar 31, 2019 20:25:43 GMT
Hearing the Joe Biden is skeevy makes me sad. I have always thought he was a good person and I liked him, even though I didn't vote for Obama/Biden. I didn't know about him treating Anita Hill terrible.  That makes me sad, too.
I don't want him to run, and I didn't even before this came out. I think he is too old, and we need someone other than the typical old white guy for president. I also think Bernie needs to fade off into the sunset.
I am almost to the point though that I honestly do not care who becomes president in 2020 as long as it is not Trump. But please don't let it be between Trump and Biden or Trump and Sanders.
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Post by J u l e e on Mar 31, 2019 21:11:25 GMT
Yep. I have a very real problem of conscious of who I will vote for if it comes down to Biden vs Trump. I despise Trump, so I’ll go with whoever is running against him. But I won’t feel good about that vote. I agree. But I don't think Biden will run. I think this is going to scare him. And it should. The fact he doesn't 'feel' like he did anything inappropriate is concerning. I think there's been enough old, white guys who don't think they did anything wrong. I don't see how the D party can just sit by, and ignore this any more. There has to be someone better that doesn't have the sexual inappropriate baggage Joe does. While they wont have all the years experience (most likely), there has to be someone that is down to earth with a plan. Now if they would please step forward... Yes. I don't think we can ignore this. It's not okay. I don't want to be grabbed by the pussy OR have someone kiss me without my permission, especially from behind where I can't see what's happening. Not okay. And not realizing that it's not okay? Still? That's really not okay. |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 31, 2019 21:43:46 GMT
Will we ever have a candidate like Mother Theresa? I hope not. Mother Theresa was a pretty shitty person who did some horrible things. Her legacy is anything but worth getting sainted over. |
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Post by Just T on Mar 31, 2019 21:46:17 GMT
I agree. But I don't think Biden will run. I think this is going to scare him. And it should. The fact he doesn't 'feel' like he did anything inappropriate is concerning. I think there's been enough old, white guys who don't think they did anything wrong. I don't see how the D party can just sit by, and ignore this any more. There has to be someone better that doesn't have the sexual inappropriate baggage Joe does. While they wont have all the years experience (most likely), there has to be someone that is down to earth with a plan. Now if they would please step forward...  |
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Post by librarylady on Mar 31, 2019 22:21:15 GMT
There have been a lot of stories about Biden being a “touchy-feely” kind of guy. I was not surprised when this story came out, and I don’t think it will be the only one. Above everything else, this is the reason I do not want Joe Biden to be the D candidate. As I understand it, this is one of his "dings" that stopped him in the past. Along with this, we will hear of his goof ups when speaking---selecting the wrong word or comparison or mixing up two events.
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Post by librarylady on Mar 31, 2019 22:25:48 GMT
What worries me: We have everyone and their dog running for Dem president.
That's what the Rs had last time--and the votes were split so much they ended up with DT.
I am afraid that whoever the Ds run, the vote will be split, Ds end up with a weak candidate and the US ends up with DT again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 22:37:33 GMT
Biden kissed meI am not sure that Biden would be my choice for Democratic nominee (Too old, political establishment, rich white guy, etc.). But I noticed that after Amy Klobachar announced her candidacy it came out that she was a demanding boss. Now, I see that Joe Biden is being portrayed as, in my words, “a dirty old man”. Seriously, if trump can admit to, “grabbing them by the pussy” and still be elected dictator, how do you feel about this latest scandal with Biden? Will we ever have a candidate like Mother Theresa? He's a honorable, loving guy--not the pussy grabbing, women-hating jerk in office now........ He merely (supposedly) gave a peck on the back of the head to this woman? C'mon!!! That's pathetic, even though I tend to listen and believe the victim. How does she know it was Biden if it was the back of her head? Does she have eyes in the back of her head? Did anyone see this? None of it makes sense.......... Crappy attempt at smearing his character! LOL (and he apologized if he did something inappropriate, but he couldn't recall it!) |
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Post by suzastampin on Mar 31, 2019 22:52:05 GMT
I hope he doesn’t run. And if I were he, I wouldn’t run. At his age, why would I want to put myself through it?! The Democrats have been very quick to get other Dems out of office such as Al Franken. We know Trump will skewer him, even tho he’s done and said much worse. And he’ll have 15 or more Dems trying to expose all they can. Joe, save yourself!
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Now, I see that Joe Biden is being portrayed as, in my words, “a dirty old man”.
That makes me sad, too. 
