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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 31, 2019 17:38:10 GMT
I expect this will be met with outright negativity. <shrug> Whatever. What else is new? Knock yourselves out. My position: As I have mentioned multiple times already, I walked away from the Democratic Party. It happened a long time before this movement, but the reasons I left were the same reasons that are talked about in this video. For those of you who want to go beyond what you've been told and hear for yourselves Brandon Straka say why he began the #WalkAway movement, here's your opportunity. Brandon Straka and #WalkAwayYeah, it was aired on Fox News. Yeah, it was on a program with Mark Levin. Yeah, it's long. If that scares you too much, by all means, walk yourself away from the video and believe everything that you are told without question. Make all the miserable, hateful comments you want. I won't argue with you or call you names. I won't talk over you. I won't denigrate you or your concerns. You have that freedom in America. You still have that freedom even under Donald Trump as president. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 31, 2019 17:55:32 GMT
In all fairness...YOU yourself do sound pretty negative...
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Post by colleen on Mar 31, 2019 17:59:14 GMT
They lost me at liberal media machine. Really, Fox?
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 31, 2019 18:08:16 GMT
I am not sure what you want anyone to say? I absolutely know that people walked away from the Democratic Party, but I also know people walked away from the Republican Party. What are you hoping happens from this post? Do you think that video will change someone’s mind? Do you want someone to validate why you left? Do you want other people to share their stories? I was a Republican when I started voting, I voted for Gore the first time I voted Democrat. Would you like me to list the reasons I walked away from the Republicans and why I will never walk back?
Really confused on what the reason of this post is.
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Post by SockMonkey on Mar 31, 2019 18:12:38 GMT
Okay. I hope you feel like you said what you needed to say. I'm not sure how you want people to respond, as you indicate that you feel like your post will be met with outrage. I'm not sure why. It's possible for people to disagree with you and the man in that video and not be outraged. It's possible for others to hold different values from yours and not be outraged.
I hope you feel better having posted this.
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Post by lizacreates on Mar 31, 2019 18:23:03 GMT
Do you want a discussion? If so, would you like to begin? Do you have questions?
If you don’t want a discussion and just wanted us to watch the video, that’s alright, too. I watched it.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 31, 2019 18:39:31 GMT
And I walked away from the Republican Party - big deal. People change thier minds all the time. I hold some principles to be valuable that the Republicans no longer hold valuable.
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Post by mustlovecats on Mar 31, 2019 18:46:00 GMT
I don’t know what I would walk away to. The Republican Party’s support of trump has soured me to ever vote for an R ever again in my life. I may forever be a Democrat because of what the Republican Party has stood for these last few years. And that is despite the lackluster (at best) Democratic field.
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Post by quinlove on Mar 31, 2019 18:52:20 GMT
I don’t know what I would walk away to. The Republican Party’s support of trump has soured me to ever vote for an R ever again in my life. I may forever be a Democrat because of what the Republican Party has stood for these last few years. And that is despite the lackluster (at best) Democratic field. Yay ! This is very encouraging to hear. I’m so stunned that anyone can still stand by these men who have taken oaths to do right by us. How someone/anyone can still ( ok, ever ) agree with anything the asswipe in the Oval Office is doing to our country, scares me. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 31, 2019 18:56:22 GMT
I expect this will be met with outright negativity. <shrug> Whatever. What else is new? Knock yourselves out. If that scares you too much, by all means, walk yourself away from the video and believe everything that you are told without question. Make all the miserable, hateful comments you want. I won't argue with you or call you names. I won't talk over you. I won't denigrate you or your concerns.Last sentence of yours...a bit too late given your actual words in your first and same post. |
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Post by janeliz on Mar 31, 2019 19:09:20 GMT
I can’t imagine a day will come when I will walk into the arms of the Republican Party. By all means, though, if someone decides they are no longer well represented by the Democrats and they need to “walk away”, please do so. There’s a hell of a lot happening in this country right now and I’m not going to expend what little energy I have left trying to convince anyone to see things my way.
I will say this, OP, because I get the feeling lately that you’re struggling with something—-I don’t think you’re as fair minded and dispassionate as I believe you think you are.
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Post by purplebee on Mar 31, 2019 19:09:26 GMT
I am a 67 year old conservative voter who definitely leaned Republican for many many years, although I did occasionally vote more for the candidate rather than the party.
However, since Trump became president, I have not only walked away from the Republican party, I have run as hard and as fast as I can away from it.
I also don't see the point of this thread. I believe there was an earlier long and contentious thread about the so-called "Walk Away" movement.
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Post by Sarah*H on Mar 31, 2019 19:30:12 GMT
Yes, prior to the midterms when Rainbow continuously posted these nonsense videos and insisted the midterms were going to be a massacre for the Democrats.
I mean, whatever. If it makes you to feel better that people are running towards the Republicans because they offer a better answer to the problems facing our nation, rock on. Based on the policies being advanced by the party, the statements and behavior of those elected representatives, I will keep asking for an honest response about what it actually means to be a Republican today. Today, this day - what does that party stand for? Not 10 years ago, not when Eisenhower was elected, not prior to the civil war. What are they offering the American people right now besides the fact that you think Democrats are horrible?
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Post by peano on Mar 31, 2019 19:30:44 GMT
Didn't we do this with Rainbow already?
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Post by SockMonkey on Mar 31, 2019 19:31:07 GMT
Didn't we do this with Rainbow already? Yes. Apparently it wasn’t enough. |
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Post by PLurker on Mar 31, 2019 19:48:30 GMT
Buy into it or not, I have to admit, this does seem like a rerun thread and the video is nothing new.
One man's story of his interpretation of things.
Not a big huge movement they want it to be.
Making it a hashtag doesn't make it so.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Mar 31, 2019 20:15:12 GMT
I'm a walk away. From Republicans. I just can't even get on board with how crazy the party has gotten. Plus, I've grown more liberal as I've aged. Gay marriage pretty much did me in. And then Trump and how the Republicans have stood behind his craziness. I just don't want to be associated with that anymore.
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Post by PLurker on Mar 31, 2019 20:24:58 GMT
I'm a walk away. From Republicans. I just can't even get on board with how crazy the party has gotten. Plus, I've grown more liberal as I've aged. Gay marriage pretty much did me in. And then Trump and how the Republicans have stood behind his craziness. I just don't want to be associated with that anymore. I can't say I'm a walk away because I was never in either party. But I don't see myself voting Republican until they right their ship and I don't see that happening anytime soon, probably not in my lifetime. Chaos follows and is caused by trump every.single.day. Regardless of his views (I personally think he has little agenda besides what is good for him) he doesn't prove himself to be anywhere near a good leader because of this. He has no desire to bring people together for the greater good. He thrives and and encourages chaos. Incites it you might say. |
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Post by Just T on Mar 31, 2019 20:29:43 GMT
I'm a walk away. From Republicans. I just can't even get on board with how crazy the party has gotten. Plus, I've grown more liberal as I've aged. Gay marriage pretty much did me in. And then Trump and how the Republicans have stood behind his craziness. I just don't want to be associated with that anymore. I can't say I'm a walk away because I was never in either party. But I don't see myself voting Republican until they right their ship and I don't see that happening anytime soon, probably not in my lifetime. Chaos follows and is caused by trump every.single.day. Regardless of his views (I personally think he has little agenda besides what is good for him) he doesn't prove himself to be anywhere near a good leader because of this. He has no desire to bring people together for the greater good. He thrives and and encourages chaos. Incites it you might say. Jeremysgirl, I could have written your post word for word. I am definitely becoming more conservative as I grow older. LOL Really, even before Trump was elected, and mainly because of the gay marriage issue. But, definitely since Trump has been in office, I can't see how I can ever support a Republican candidate again. Even when Trump was elected, I thought "really, how bad can it be? Congress, the senate et all will keep him in line. But nope. Not only have they not kept him in line, they've jumped right onto the crazy train with him.
I have written this before, but politically, I sort of feel lost at this point. And I totally agree with you, PLurker that Trump has no desire to bring people together. Everything he does and says and the things the people he surrounds himself with do and say further divide us.
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Post by tara on Mar 31, 2019 20:32:18 GMT
I'm a walk away. From Republicans. I just can't even get on board with how crazy the party has gotten. Plus, I've grown more liberal as I've aged. Gay marriage pretty much did me in. And then Trump and how the Republicans have stood behind his craziness. I just don't want to be associated with that anymore. I can't say I'm a walk away because I was never in either party. But I don't see myself voting Republican until they right their ship and I don't see that happening anytime soon, probably not in my lifetime. Chaos follows and is caused by trump every.single.day. Regardless of his views (I personally think he has little agenda besides what is good for him) he doesn't prove himself to be anywhere near a good leader because of this. He has no desire to bring people together for the greater good. He thrives and and encourages chaos. Incites it you might say. And I walked away from the Republican Party way before Trump. So? |
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Post by SockMonkey on Mar 31, 2019 20:42:02 GMT
I guess a better question for anybody walking away is “What are you walking toward?”
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Post by J u l e e on Mar 31, 2019 20:45:49 GMT
I guess I figured we posted things here for the sake of discussion. And what we add on our own either encourages discussion or shuts it down. There are some people here who are excellent examples of encouraging discussion, as well as some who are excellent examples of shutting it down.
I think it would make for an interesting conversation if, in addition to posting a video of someone explaining why he walked away from a party he once supported, you asked if there is anyone here who has #walkedaway. I am guessing the idea works both ways. Listening to the reasons people have walked away from one party or the other is interesting to me, anyway.
I'm a registered republican from way back. I voted for Ronald Reagan two months after I turned 18. I have voted for both democrats and republicans for presidents through the years. I don't see myself voting republican again anytime soon, if ever. I don't even recognize the Republican Party or anything they stand for anymore. The Democratic Party is much more aligned with the values I hold and how I believe people should be treated. That doesn't even begin to touch on what I think of Donald Trump and the people who put him in power and continue to support him. I don't have vocabulary vile enough.
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Post by tara on Mar 31, 2019 20:51:03 GMT
I can't say I'm a walk away because I was never in either party. But I don't see myself voting Republican until they right their ship and I don't see that happening anytime soon, probably not in my lifetime. Chaos follows and is caused by trump every.single.day. Regardless of his views (I personally think he has little agenda besides what is good for him) he doesn't prove himself to be anywhere near a good leader because of this. He has no desire to bring people together for the greater good. He thrives and and encourages chaos. Incites it you might say. Jeremysgirl, I could have written your post word for word. I am definitely becoming more conservative as I grow older. LOL Really, even before Trump was elected, and mainly because of the gay marriage issue. But, definitely since Trump has been in office, I can't see how I can ever support a Republican candidate again. Even when Trump was elected, I thought "really, how bad can it be? Congress, the senate et all will keep him in line. But nope. Not only have they not kept him in line, they've jumped right onto the crazy train with him.
I have written this before, but politically, I sort of feel lost at this point. And I totally agree with you, PLurker that Trump has no desire to bring people together. Everything he does and says and the things the people he surrounds himself with do and say further divide us.
And this is what makes him so dangerous. I’m 50 this year and I’ve never seen the us vs them mentality that we have seen since trump. Not to this extent. Maybe not since the civil war? |
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Post by tara on Mar 31, 2019 20:51:17 GMT
I can't say I'm a walk away because I was never in either party. But I don't see myself voting Republican until they right their ship and I don't see that happening anytime soon, probably not in my lifetime. Chaos follows and is caused by trump every.single.day. Regardless of his views (I personally think he has little agenda besides what is good for him) he doesn't prove himself to be anywhere near a good leader because of this. He has no desire to bring people together for the greater good. He thrives and and encourages chaos. Incites it you might say. Jeremysgirl, I could have written your post word for word. I am definitely becoming more conservative as I grow older. LOL Really, even before Trump was elected, and mainly because of the gay marriage issue. But, definitely since Trump has been in office, I can't see how I can ever support a Republican candidate again. Even when Trump was elected, I thought "really, how bad can it be? Congress, the senate et all will keep him in line. But nope. Not only have they not kept him in line, they've jumped right onto the crazy train with him.
I have written this before, but politically, I sort of feel lost at this point. And I totally agree with you, PLurker that Trump has no desire to bring people together. Everything he does and says and the things the people he surrounds himself with do and say further divide us.
And this is what makes him so dangerous. I’m 50 this year and I’ve never seen the us vs them mentality that we have seen since trump. Not to this extent. Maybe not since the civil war? Sorry for the copy. I don’t know how that happened. |
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Post by 950nancy on Mar 31, 2019 22:35:20 GMT
And I walked away from the Republican Party - big deal. People change thier minds all the time. I hold some principles to be valuable that the Republicans no longer hold valuable. This was me also. Of course people change. We pick a party at 18 when we are young and have mostly heard what our parents believe. Then we get out of our small world and see the other side. |
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Post by hop2 on Mar 31, 2019 23:34:20 GMT
And I walked away from the Republican Party - big deal. People change thier minds all the time. I hold some principles to be valuable that the Republicans no longer hold valuable. This was me also. Of course people change. We pick a party at 18 when we are young and have mostly heard what our parents believe. Then we get out of our small world and see the other side. yes and no. Yes I saw the other side in a few issues. And on others I’m steadfast and they have changed. There isn’t a party that represents those values now. Well not a viable one. |
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 31, 2019 23:50:24 GMT
I expect this will be met with outright negativity. <shrug> Whatever. What else is new? Knock yourselves out.
My position: As I have mentioned multiple times already, I walked away from the Democratic Party. It happened a long time before this movement, but the reasons I left were the same reasons that are talked about in this video. For those of you who want to go beyond what you've been told and hear for yourselves Brandon Straka say why he began the #WalkAway movement, here's your opportunity. Brandon Straka and #WalkAwayYeah, it was aired on Fox News. Yeah, it was on a program with Mark Levin. Yeah, it's long. If that scares you too much, by all means, walk yourself away from the video and believe everything that you are told without question. Make all the miserable, hateful comments you want. I won't argue with you or call you names. I won't talk over you. I won't denigrate you or your concerns. You have that freedom in America. You still have that freedom even under Donald Trump as president. I'm honestly perplexed by this. Why start a thread at all under the guise of open discussion, if you *know* exactly how it'll go and you wont like it? Its like any constructive response, is shut down before it can even be made.  The last one went badly because of who started it, it was clearly trolling at its most blatant. She wasn't interested in a two way conversation at all. I'm not outraged at all. Its a fact of life that people will have different opinions than you on many things. Things that are important to me, might not be as important to them, and that doesn't make them any less valid, because we all have different life experiences. I can handle that. I think i'm fairly open minded, I've often changed or adapted my thinking on things because of different perspectives people post on here. |
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Post by Merge on Apr 1, 2019 0:17:54 GMT
A little background into Brandon Straka. NBC articleMy perception of him, based on his own past tweets and words, is that (a) he is a failed actor/singer who is using this "movement" to gain fame and attention (and probably money, from some source), and (b) this is a race thing to him. He says that Democrats are blaming white people and white men for all of society's ills - a popular trope among the alt-right and Trumpists these days. This is demonstrably not true, as the front runners and media darlings among the current Democratic field are - gasp - mostly white men. But it makes good fodder for the white grievance crowd, which doesn't care if it's actually true or not. Whatever, he can believe what he wants and so can the OP. I do think it's kind of funny that they're trotting this "movement" out for another go when it was such a spectacular failure last fall, but I guess if you can't win people on policy positions, you're going to try to win them by stirring up racial animus. For myself, I walked away from the Republican party about ten years ago and haven't looked back. They don't support any of the values that are important to me, and I don't think their policies - even divorced from the dumpster fire of the Trump administration - are good for the country in 2019. So yeah. In the current two party system, that leaves me one choice I can live with, and it isn't the Republicans. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 0:31:18 GMT
Okay. I hope you feel like you said what you needed to say. I'm not sure how you want people to respond, as you indicate that you feel like your post will be met with outrage. I'm not sure why. It's possible for people to disagree with you and the man in that video and not be outraged. It's possible for others to hold different values from yours and not be outraged. I hope you feel better having posted this. She never said a word about outrage. She said it would be met with negativity and she was right. |
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Post by Merge on Apr 1, 2019 0:37:14 GMT
Okay. I hope you feel like you said what you needed to say. I'm not sure how you want people to respond, as you indicate that you feel like your post will be met with outrage. I'm not sure why. It's possible for people to disagree with you and the man in that video and not be outraged. It's possible for others to hold different values from yours and not be outraged. I hope you feel better having posted this. She never said a word about outrage. She said it would be met with negativity and she was right. So disagreement = negativity? |
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The last one went badly because of who started it, it was clearly trolling at its most blatant. She wasn't interested in a two way conversation at all. 