pilcas
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Post by pilcas on Apr 13, 2019 1:18:21 GMT
WoW! just wow. Everything has already been said, but talk about demanding!
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NoWomanNoCry
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Apr 13, 2019 1:54:20 GMT
I’d love to see what this kid is like as it grows into a teen and adult.
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 13, 2019 2:49:18 GMT
Oh hell no. I'd tell them to find someone else
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 13, 2019 2:55:38 GMT
Nope, I don't smoke, don't do drugs, (does coffee count??) etc.... The all day babysitting is on a Saturday or a Sunday, when they want to go out, go shopping and have lunch or dinner. TBH, it is probably more like 6-7 hours, which is really a whole day. SIL works from home. I work full time as well, so no lol I could not do any weekday sitting during the day. I think I will have a conversation with my brother. Thank you all ! please update us on the conversation
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Post by cmpeter on Apr 13, 2019 3:03:52 GMT
I’d just have a heart to heart with my brother. If they are still do I flexible, then I wouldn’t be available to sit.
I watch my niece and nephew. But, my SIL trusts me..I’ve raised two great kids. She’s knows they are safe and puts no restrictions. The kids come here because it’s something different and they love it.
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Post by snyder on Apr 13, 2019 3:14:58 GMT
You are doing them a huge favor, so it is your terms. I can see a little compromise, but I would not be going to their home to sit. It would be at my home or they could find other arrangements.
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Nanner
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Post by Nanner on Apr 13, 2019 4:11:20 GMT
Hell no.
You work full time and have 2 kids - that means your weekends are already busy without having to spend a day at someone else's house looking after their child under their ridiculous rules. Do they not think you would like to "go out, go shopping and have lunch or dinner" yourself?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 5:03:21 GMT
If you want any easy out, lie and tell them you are on medication that can effect your judgment. I bet they won’t bother asking you to babysit again after hearing that.
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garcia5050
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Post by garcia5050 on Apr 13, 2019 5:27:18 GMT
what are they doing for 6-7 hours on the weekend??? I have family members who have asked if we could watch the kids while they go grocery shopping, and 5 hours later they return. I’m always like what the hell? 5 hours? My neighbor did this to me once. I’ve never understood. We wouldn’t do that to someone (and especially no excessive rules).
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PaperAngel
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Post by PaperAngel on Apr 13, 2019 5:53:05 GMT
I'm an only child with an only child. Parents are free to adopt any parenting philosophy they want without judgement from me. However, if you choose to put your child on a pedestal, then you - not volunteers - should ensure s/he stays there. I suggest simply telling your brother & his wife that you cannot babysit in the future because you're unable to meet their expectations due to your own parental obligations. They can either plan outings that include their infant or pay a sitter...just like everyone else.
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luvnlifelady
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Post by luvnlifelady on Apr 13, 2019 9:33:56 GMT
I would maybe do it once in awhile when it was convenient to me. They sound like they are obsessive and only want things their way with no bending to think about how their rules effect others.
If someone wanted me to babysit fairly regularly, I would have my own rules. I would definitely want it at my house so I could still live my life some and wasn't locked down with a young child.
Your brother needs to unclench but chances are that a lot of this is coming from his wife.
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Post by summer on Apr 13, 2019 11:56:22 GMT
They have unrealistic expectations. I would not feel guilty saying no. Tell them you that you can’t meet their expectations and that you have your own kids, errands, life to take care of on the weekends.
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Post by monklady123 on Apr 13, 2019 12:05:46 GMT
You said you keep getting asked for reasons why you're saying no... Well, tell them the reason. "I'm sorry but no I cannot babysit on that day because I have to go pick up so-and-so and you won't let me drive the baby." Or "no I'm sorry I cannot babysit on that day because I have a lot of things to get done here at home and you won't allow the baby to come here." Put it back on them since it's their odd rules that have made this problem.
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Post by mikklynn on Apr 13, 2019 12:08:40 GMT
FuzzyMuttYou added a good perspective to the conversation. I learned I could not leave my children with my MIL, when she left our 4 week old son alone in a hotel room. We had arranged for DH's younger brother to sit in our room and watch tv while we met up with cousins elsewhere in the hotel. She came and got him, telling him to go to bed. We returned shortly to find our newborn alone.
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momto4kiddos
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Post by momto4kiddos on Apr 13, 2019 12:10:24 GMT
Wow! I'd tell them you'd love to babysit, but have some things to do at home during her naptime so feel free to drop her by. No reason you have to bend over backwards to accommodate their crazy!
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rickmer
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Post by rickmer on Apr 13, 2019 12:14:19 GMT
some of it i get, wash your hands, wash toy after being used (bit extreme but i also get it, i guess). even no tv... they are first time parents and trying to do it all right because they love that baby SO MUCH.
so part of me says i would be flexible with some of the smaller demands, understanding where it is coming from.
HOWEVER, uh no, to being sat only at their place, can't go anywhere, etc. i would be kind but honest and say you love your neice, look forward to spending time with her but that is not going to work, it's too disruptive to your family.
good luck!
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Post by paigepea on Apr 13, 2019 12:38:22 GMT
I haven’t read all of the replies.
Sorry, I know you want to be helpful but it sounds like they’re asking you to give up a lot of your time. The poor 1 year old who has to sit in the house with you when the day could be so much more fun driving on your errands.
Perhaps think of saying NO for the sake of the child. It’s almost like you’re enabling the parents by agreeing to these conditions when no one else would accommodate them so easily. I consider guilting you in sitting thrbsame as bullying you. They’re doing this on purpose. I would also think that these conditions are coming from the new wife, not your brother.
My girls are 10 and 13. There is no way I’d agree to babysit so often for someone and give up so much of my time, especially at someone else’s house. That would cut into my family time as I wouldn’t be able to do my errands, cook, clean, etc in my own time. The hand washing is dumb but I would just consider that being neurotic. The house, driving issue, and time commitment related to the sitteusg be a family member are all signs of being neurotic too but those are conditions I’d have trouble with.
You must really love your niece. That is very sweet.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Apr 13, 2019 12:55:19 GMT
Their choice to have a baby and a ton of rules is their choice. They can hire a nanny to stay at their house and live by the rules. Or they can let family do it but give family free reign to do the things they need in their homes. They either trust family or they don't. I watch my niece and nephew. But, my SIL trusts me..I’ve raised two great kids. She’s knows they are safe and puts no restrictions. The kids come here because it’s something different and they love it. I've always felt part of the beauty of having extended family and friends involved with raising your children is the exposure to more experiences, viewpoints, foods, household rhythms, and so forth. Of course, that's assuming there's a basic level of congruence and trust between all the individuals to begin with. In the OP's situation,I like monklady123's notion of simply using their own rules as the 'reason' you can't watch their child. "I can't help that day because (1) you won't allow her to be at my house and I have things I simply must get done, (2) you won't let me take her anywhere in my car and I have to take my own children somewhere, (3) insert more of same." It's then their choice. You aren't declining to help... you are merely stating your own conditions for doing so.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 13:27:53 GMT
In the OP's situation,I like monklady123 's notion of simply using their own rules as the 'reason' you can't watch their child. "I can't help that day because (1) you won't allow her to be at my house and I have things I simply must get done, (2) you won't let me take her anywhere in my car and I have to take my own children somewhere, (3) insert more of same." It's then their choice. You aren't declining to help... you are merely stating your own conditions for doing so. You're doing them a favour in looking after their child, on your one day off, from a full time job and yet they are calling all the shots. Very selfish on their part IMO. I could maybe, understand the paranoia of your sister in law being a young first time mum if the baby was only a few weeks old but heck the child is 12 months old. I'm a firm believer that children, from a very young age should experience someone, apart from they're parents, looking after them for a short period of time as and when and in a different environment than in their own home. If there was ever an emergency the child isn't going to cope very well at all if they haven't been used to a different person/place previously.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 13, 2019 13:35:28 GMT
I do love kids, and I want to be close to my niece. I would like to be able to take her to the park and on little outings. I know that it can be really scary to be a new mom, so I have been pretty patient, but I am at the point now where I just say no, and am starting to feel bad about it. Plus then they want to know why I can't. Grandparents are all out of state, otherwise they would be asked I am sure. Edited to add, thank you all. Sometimes you just need to know if you are on the right track, and like I said I am feeling pretty guilty. So thanks! I would explain that you love your niece and want to spend time with her, but that their expectations and rules are over the top and too restrictive.
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 13, 2019 13:44:31 GMT
You said you keep getting asked for reasons why you're saying no... Well, tell them the reason. "I'm sorry but no I cannot babysit on that day because I have to go pick up so-and-so and you won't let me drive the baby." Or "no I'm sorry I cannot babysit on that day because I have a lot of things to get done here at home and you won't allow the baby to come here." Put it back on them since it's their odd rules that have made this problem. That is the perfect response. The parents need to know why you can’t babysit and your reasons are 100% valid. I thought I knew overprotective parents, but I think your brother and sister in law cross the line into neurotic territory. When my brother was born my mom left my grandparents a 7 page note (front and back) on how to take care of him. They were watching him for 3 hours! It is a shame your niece isn’t being exposed to new experiences and is having her time with family so limited. Do they find many caretakers with all these restrictions?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 13, 2019 13:57:26 GMT
That poor child needs to have you introduce some germs into her life or when she hits school her immune system will be bombarded. That was truly my first thought. I think I heard something fairly recently about getting kids outside to play 'in the dirt' .... They DO need to build their immune systems and the sooner the better. You said you keep getting asked for reasons why you're saying no... Well, tell them the reason. "I'm sorry but no I cannot babysit on that day because I have to go pick up so-and-so and you won't let me drive the baby." Or "no I'm sorry I cannot babysit on that day because I have a lot of things to get done here at home and you won't allow the baby to come here." Put it back on them since it's their odd rules that have made this problem. Well said. They might learn something!
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Peamac
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Post by Peamac on Apr 13, 2019 14:56:30 GMT
"If you want someone to stay in your home all day with the baby and not go anywhere, you really need a nanny. Not just a babysitter. I"m a mom, not a nanny."
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Post by smokeynspike on Apr 13, 2019 16:57:35 GMT
I would just tell them you are unavailable to babysit anymore given your differences in parenting styles and to not ask you again unless it is an emergency. Then stick with that. Their rules are more fit as expectations when paying a nanny not a family member.
Melissa
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Post by jemmls4 on Apr 13, 2019 17:42:47 GMT
I would say something along the lines of "You're probably better off just staying at home for the next several years if you insist on enforcing rules for your family to spend any amount of time with your daughter and live their lives." or "If you want the help, you'll most likely have to compromise on some of your requests/requirements."
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casii
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Post by casii on Apr 13, 2019 18:47:34 GMT
I think you've gotten a lot of stellar input. I'm curious to see how the conversation with your brother goes.
My daughter has almost 4 month old twins. The couple of times that DH and I have watched them, DD and DSIL are so happy for adult time, besides asking us to write down when they eat & nap, they seem to trust us not to ruin the babies while they're gone!
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Post by anniebygaslight on Apr 13, 2019 21:20:41 GMT
Just say no.
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Post by likescarrots on Apr 13, 2019 22:56:27 GMT
Nope, I don't smoke, don't do drugs, (does coffee count??) etc.... The all day babysitting is on a Saturday or a Sunday, when they want to go out, go shopping and have lunch or dinner. TBH, it is probably more like 6-7 hours, which is really a whole day. SIL works from home. I work full time as well, so no lol I could not do any weekday sitting during the day. I think I will have a conversation with my brother. Thank you all ! I don't understand why they're not taking the kid with them? Like... they're parents now, that's what happens when you have a family.
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craftymom101
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Post by craftymom101 on Apr 14, 2019 18:33:36 GMT
Nope, I don't smoke, don't do drugs, (does coffee count??) etc.... The all day babysitting is on a Saturday or a Sunday, when they want to go out, go shopping and have lunch or dinner. TBH, it is probably more like 6-7 hours, which is really a whole day. SIL works from home. I work full time as well, so no lol I could not do any weekday sitting during the day. I think I will have a conversation with my brother. Thank you all ! I don't understand why they're not taking the kid with them? Like... they're parents now, that's what happens when you have a family. I was thinking the same thing. I never had any family near me when my kids were little so my boys either came with us or we didn't go! Very rarely we paid for a babysitter.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 14, 2019 18:58:27 GMT
Nope, I don't smoke, don't do drugs, (does coffee count??) etc.... The all day babysitting is on a Saturday or a Sunday, when they want to go out, go shopping and have lunch or dinner. TBH, it is probably more like 6-7 hours, which is really a whole day. SIL works from home. I work full time as well, so no lol I could not do any weekday sitting during the day. I think I will have a conversation with my brother. Thank you all ! They seem to be really out of touch regarding what your life is like, as well as what life is like when one has children. Maybe you could offer to swap duties a few times. You know, so you could have time to go to lunch and shopping on a weekend day while they take care of your kids and duties. Honestly, even without their restrictions I would be irritated that they frequently ask me to watch their baby for a whole weekend day when I work full-time out of the home.
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