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Post by prapea on Apr 15, 2019 18:57:02 GMT
Oh this makes me so sad 😞
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Post by christine58 on Apr 15, 2019 18:58:10 GMT
I am sick...just sick...this is awful. I am heartbroken.
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Post by ladytrisha on Apr 15, 2019 18:58:37 GMT
my coworker was just there 2 weeks ago - she can't believe it! She said the one thing that stood out to her as they climbed was that the restoration workers were smoking while they worked. That seems so nonsensical and highly stupid to have been permitted (if it was).
My bucket list got smaller today and I'm just so very sad.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 15, 2019 18:59:01 GMT
The irony of the scaffolding holding up. You can't write this kind of visual pathos. ABC is saying there are only two fire hoses? Is that right? The difficulty is accessing the height and the cornered-in position of the cathedral by the Seine. They can't just back up and spray. They have to send firemen up the building to spray at the fire (hope this makes sense). There are firemen now from both sides of the cathedral, spraying straight into the vault where the fire fell into after the roof collapsed. They are using the biggest hoses they can but you can only see two "big" (I mean, it's small in comparison to the size of the building and fire) streams of water, each coming in from one side. There is almost no space to place firemen on the side (just a slim balcony with stone stairs leading there: actual part of the cathedral on the outside façade). There are more hoses and lots of spraying happening further below, straight onto the building. Am I making sense? Probably not. Due to where the fire is ablaze, they can barely access it without going by the air which is problematic as the Canadair planes we use drop 6 tonnes of water and could cause damage to people or the actual building (which is likely why they decided against it at first: the wood frame would've gone down under the weight of the water). They can't just drop all that water now due to the fragility of the entire structure, stone façade included.
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Post by gailoh on Apr 15, 2019 18:59:52 GMT
So heartbreaking, my heart goes out to their country
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 15, 2019 19:00:30 GMT
The irony of the scaffolding holding up. You can't write this kind of visual pathos. Whatever was left inside the cathedral is gone, guys. Those flames are eating it all up. this is just awful to read... what an absolutely horrific thing to have happen to an absolutely priceless piece of history.
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Post by birukitty on Apr 15, 2019 19:02:26 GMT
I'm reading this with great sadness today. I haven't made it to France yet in my travels and I'd really hoped to see Notre-Dame one day. So much history gone so quickly. I really hope they will be able to rebuild it and of course my thoughts and prayers are with the firemen and keeping everyone safe today.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 15, 2019 19:08:45 GMT
If the façade can be saved, it will likely be rebuilt. That's the only positive right now: the French government would very likely jump in to pay the billions (I'm not exaggerating) it would cost to rebuild it exactly as it was (they've made extensive 3D plans of how the building is for the 20 year renovation plan). The art that goes up in flames, however, is lost forever.
400 firemen currently working on saving it and some are still trying to save some of the art that can be accessed. Not sure what's happening regarding the archeological crypt.
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Post by hutchfan on Apr 15, 2019 19:09:47 GMT
Breaks my heart.
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Post by scrappinmama on Apr 15, 2019 19:11:34 GMT
How devastating! It's such a beautiful, historic church. I'm so sad to look at the footage. If the structure survives, it will take a generation to restore it.
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Post by workingclassdog on Apr 15, 2019 19:13:15 GMT
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Post by schizo319 on Apr 15, 2019 19:14:15 GMT
20 years ago this Friday, I stood in the Notre Dame Cathedral on Good Friday during a full Latin mass. I'm not religious, but that was one of the most spiritual experiences of my life. I just can't...
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Post by cadoodlebug on Apr 15, 2019 19:18:03 GMT
We were there in July of 2003 and walked up the stone staircase. DH and DS had a hard time because it is so narrow and they are over 6 feet tall. They were renovating it back then. Such a tragedy.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 15, 2019 19:21:45 GMT
It's getting very dark now and it's just flames against the outlines of the stone walls holding up. Haunting. Terrible and yet also, to a certain extent, beautiful. Like a scene out of the parallel world in the Man in the High Castle.
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Post by muggins on Apr 15, 2019 19:22:28 GMT
How terrible:( I just can’t believe it. DH flew to Paris this morning for business.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 15, 2019 19:26:45 GMT
I wish there was no need for updates. 😢
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 15, 2019 19:36:30 GMT
The biggest hoses are still trying to control the fire inside the vault now. I think there are four big streams going in. The hoses can only go up 30m but the building itself was over 90m high (spire peaked at 93). 1m is approx 3.25ft.
Press conference right now with the Secretary of State and Chief Fireman. Chief Fireman confirms the next 90 minutes are crucial: if they can't control the fire by 23h (it's 21h35 in Paris right now), there is serious risk of collapse for the north belfry. If the belfry goes down, it could affect the entire building. They are going to start looking into pushing further away onlookers and press.
ETA: Might not be the Chief Fireman but a fireman appointed by the Chief to speak to the press.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Apr 15, 2019 19:37:05 GMT
I wish there was no need for updates. 😢 Us, too, but I’ve appreciated your posts.
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Apr 15, 2019 19:41:02 GMT
I'm crying. How horrifying and heart-breaking.
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Post by Belle on Apr 15, 2019 19:43:06 GMT
This is just devastating. We have visited Norte Dame twice in the last couple of years. What a truly special place.
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Post by anniefb on Apr 15, 2019 19:49:33 GMT
Just horrible and heart breaking. I’m just grateful I got to see Notre Dame many years ago.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Apr 15, 2019 19:51:34 GMT
Devastating! So much irreplaceable artwork gone.
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Post by jenjie on Apr 15, 2019 19:53:00 GMT
Wow wow wow. I’m so sorry.
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Post by flute4peace on Apr 15, 2019 19:55:47 GMT
The biggest hoses are still trying to control the fire inside the vault now. I think there are four big streams going in. The hoses can only go up 30m but the building itself was over 90m high (spire peaked at 93). 1m is approx 3.25ft. Press conference right now with the Secretary of State and Chief Fireman. Chief Fireman confirms the next 90 minutes are crucial: if they can't control the fire by 23h (it's 21h35 in Paris right now), there is serious risk of collapse for the north belfry. If the belfry goes down, it could affect the entire building. They are going to start looking into pushing further away onlookers and press. ETA: Might not be the Chief Fireman but a fireman appointed by the Chief to speak to the press. Thank you for your updates and insight. My heart is breaking for you.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 15, 2019 19:58:50 GMT
The biggest hoses are still trying to control the fire inside the vault now. I think there are four big streams going in. The hoses can only go up 30m but the building itself was over 90m high (spire peaked at 93). 1m is approx 3.25ft. Press conference right now with the Secretary of State and Chief Fireman. Chief Fireman confirms the next 90 minutes are crucial: if they can't control the fire by 23h (it's 21h35 in Paris right now), there is serious risk of collapse for the north belfry. If the belfry goes down, it could affect the entire building. They are going to start looking into pushing further away onlookers and press. ETA: Might not be the Chief Fireman but a fireman appointed by the Chief to speak to the press. Does Paris have fireboats? I was amazed watching 3-4 boats in New York harbor tackling a fire a few years ago. They shoot amazingly high - although they might be too powerful for a historic building. It's just so painful to watch the destruction.
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Post by gillyp on Apr 15, 2019 20:00:24 GMT
I so hope the towers can be saved. I need to put the news off. Our presenter is making assinine comments.
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Post by StephDRebel on Apr 15, 2019 20:09:14 GMT
This has derailed my entire afternoon, I can't stop watching and tearing up over the incredible amount of lost history and such a beautiful and spiritual place.
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Post by smcast on Apr 15, 2019 20:09:37 GMT
Wow! I thought it was "fake" news at first. I've been working 12 hour nights and woke up this afternoon to it plastered all over social media. Praying it wasn't true. Seems so devastating that very hard to believe. I'm so thankful I've been blessed to visit twice. Sad that my dd and of course, many others won't be able to experience the same now. It was how I felt after Hurricane Katrina. Haven't been to New Orleans, but someday hope to visit. The city won't ever be the way it "was" because of the natural disaster and sad to not experience it in it's natural state, so to speak. Hopefully "you" get what I'm saying. I know what I want to say but can't type it out well. LOL!
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 15, 2019 20:10:34 GMT
Does Paris have fireboats? I was amazed watching 3-4 boats in New York harbor tackling a fire a few years ago. They shoot amazingly high - although they might be too powerful for a historic building. I don't think they do anymore. I think there was a river fire brigade way back. Again, not sure how high they could've gone without risking too much pressure on the cathedral with such a fireboat. It's been a matter of not making matters worse from the start. It's still blazing. I'm very sorry to have to say this but it's bright orange inferno in the dark night. Like hell has been opened right at the heart of the cathedral's floor. They did send in a group of firemen about ten minutes ago to try and retrieve some more art that can still be saved. That could indicate the structure is still sound enough but also that they're not expecting it to survive the night. I don't know. I'm both very worried about the historical art (again, the building can be rebuilt and still be magnificent and awe-inspiring like is the case for the cathedral of Reims after the destruction in the first World War) and the firemen.
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Post by kate on Apr 15, 2019 20:12:28 GMT
I am so sick about this.
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