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Post by shevy on Apr 19, 2019 15:19:11 GMT
YOu can go see your doctor and they can do a blood test to see if your immunity is up on these diseases. There are people who get vaccinated and their body won't build immunity. My mom is one of them.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 19, 2019 16:55:58 GMT
Unless a kid has an actual medical reason why they cannot be vaccinated, they need to get their damn shots. I think the religious exemption is bullshit. There has to be a point where parental rights are trumped by the greater good for the community as a whole. These are my thoughts on this issue as well. 'You' (general you) don't have the 'right' to make a decision that deliberately endangers the rest of us without an irrefutable reason. This is my thought too. |
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Post by scrappinmama on Apr 19, 2019 17:15:29 GMT
Because if people here were immunized like they should be then it wouldn't be spreading like it is. Considering the wording, it seems like it is Americans bringing it back with them or getting infected on a plane. I was going to say the same thing. It shouldn't matter what what visitors have been vaccinated if we all did our part here in the U.S. and got vaccinated. And let's not forget that we are not just vaccinating to protect ourselves. We are vaccinating to protect those who can't be vaccinated due to age or medical reasons. |
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Post by tkdmom on Apr 19, 2019 17:46:57 GMT
We are seeing Measles and <umps outbreaks. Wait until there is a Rubella outbreak and we start having babies born with congenital syndrome. OR a polio outbreak. Following a healthy lifestyle and taking immune boost will not help. When those diseases ran rampant most of those infected followed a healthy lifestyle, that was the normal lifestyle.
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Apr 19, 2019 17:54:01 GMT
I had the news on earlier. They were saying that people of a certain age (if I recall correctly it was born before 1965) were likely only immunized once, and we may want to consider talking with our GP about getting vaccinated again. Also, if you're not 100% sure that you were vaccinated as a child that you should probably discuss that as well. I'm glad you posted this. I had the tv on and I was in and out of sleep. I "thought" I had heard this, but wondered if I had dreamed it. I was born in 1964 and so I fall within the time frame. I am going to check to see if I should get a booster and my husband as well. |
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 19, 2019 17:54:52 GMT
I wonder how many of us that are vaccinated and think we are "safe" are actually not immune? Until you posted, I had never met anyone that was vaccinated, but possibly not immune. I would guess I'm one of those people. I've had chicken pox twice (no vaccine), I had whooping cough as a child (and yes, I was vaccinated against it), and I had mumps in my 30s (had an MMR at 10 when we moved to the States and again at 21 when my college made a second dose mandatory). You are both are very good examples of reasons why those of us who can be vaccinated successfully, should be. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 19, 2019 18:19:39 GMT
I had the news on earlier. They were saying that people of a certain age (if I recall correctly it was born before 1965) were likely only immunized once, and we may want to consider talking with our GP about getting vaccinated again. Also, if you're not 100% sure that you were vaccinated as a child that you should probably discuss that as well. I'm glad you posted this. I had the tv on and I was in and out of sleep. I "thought" I had heard this, but wondered if I had dreamed it. I was born in 1964 and so I fall within the time frame. I am going to check to see if I should get a booster and my husband as well. I was born in 1963 so I guess I need to go in and check too. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 19, 2019 18:35:52 GMT
The rise is so disturbing. I don't know how the US would mandate some sort of check at entry from visitors. Esp. since our own citizens aren't vaccinating. I imagine it would be pretty expensive. I'm sorry to hear it doesn't seem to work for you! IF we were all vaccinated, we would not get what is brought into our country in general. Protecting babies and those who medically do not get vaccinated would be harder. There should only be medical exemptions documented by a doctor. |
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Post by carly1030 on Apr 19, 2019 23:34:15 GMT
My thoughts are that the people in this country need to go back to vaccinating their kids and themselves against these diseases. We would not have nearly this many cases if that goddamn anti-vaxx movement wasn’t A THING. The MMR vaccine is safe (for most people) and effective AND IT DOESNT CAUSE FUCKING AUTISM! We can not control what other people do for medical care in other countries. But in this country the vaccines are readily and easily available. Unless a kid has an actual medical reason why they cannot be vaccinated, they need to get their damn shots. I think the religious exemption is bullshit. Yeah cause those fucking liberal Oregon fucking hippies don’t have a fucking thing to do with it. It’s just solely on the fucking religious people. |
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Post by lucyg on Apr 20, 2019 0:10:13 GMT
I need to find out if I have immunity. I'm 47 and at the age where some children were given one shot and some two. My parents swear I had two shots (I think they even have my shot records somewhere still) but you never know. I'm in MI and about 45 minutes from where the outbreak is. Plus the college where I work had someone visiting the campus a few weeks ago who had the measles. They were all over the campus so spreading germs everywhere. I think they recommend boosters for everyone in that age bracket. It's typically only if you're going to an area where measles are a problem - it pisses me off that soon that recommendation will need to include the US. I'm a bit younger and they recommended boosters when we went to Africa. ETA I just looked up when they started recommending 2 shots - not until 1989. According to this article, there was a catch up program for those SOME in grade school at that time but if you're born before 1977, you probably only received one. www.scpr.org/blogs/health/2015/01/23/17845/i-ve-only-had-one-dose-of-the-measles-vaccine-what/But if we actually had measles, we’re okay now, right? There was no measles vaccine when I was a kid. We all had it. |
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Post by lucyg on Apr 20, 2019 0:13:52 GMT
My thoughts are that the people in this country need to go back to vaccinating their kids and themselves against these diseases. We would not have nearly this many cases if that goddamn anti-vaxx movement wasn’t A THING. The MMR vaccine is safe (for most people) and effective AND IT DOESNT CAUSE FUCKING AUTISM! We can not control what other people do for medical care in other countries. But in this country the vaccines are readily and easily available. Unless a kid has an actual medical reason why they cannot be vaccinated, they need to get their damn shots. I think the religious exemption is bullshit. Yeah cause those fucking liberal Oregon fucking hippies don’t have a fucking thing to do with it. It’s just solely on the fucking religious people. I think we all know it’s both extreme Christians and extreme hippies doing this. Both sides use the “religious” exemption. Are you just looking for people to scream insults at? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 20, 2019 0:14:35 GMT
But if we actually had measles, we’re okay now, right? There was no measles vaccine when I was a kid. We all had it. Hope so, but I didn't get measles until 20 with a kid. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 20, 2019 0:24:28 GMT
I think they recommend boosters for everyone in that age bracket. It's typically only if you're going to an area where measles are a problem - it pisses me off that soon that recommendation will need to include the US. I'm a bit younger and they recommended boosters when we went to Africa. ETA I just looked up when they started recommending 2 shots - not until 1989. According to this article, there was a catch up program for those SOME in grade school at that time but if you're born before 1977, you probably only received one. www.scpr.org/blogs/health/2015/01/23/17845/i-ve-only-had-one-dose-of-the-measles-vaccine-what/But if we actually had measles, we’re okay now, right? There was no measles vaccine when I was a kid. We all had it. Yes if you’ve had measles you’re fine. Even with one shot most are immune - it’s just the percent isn’t high enough. |
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Post by pierkiss on Apr 20, 2019 0:30:59 GMT
My thoughts are that the people in this country need to go back to vaccinating their kids and themselves against these diseases. We would not have nearly this many cases if that goddamn anti-vaxx movement wasn’t A THING. The MMR vaccine is safe (for most people) and effective AND IT DOESNT CAUSE FUCKING AUTISM! We can not control what other people do for medical care in other countries. But in this country the vaccines are readily and easily available. Unless a kid has an actual medical reason why they cannot be vaccinated, they need to get their damn shots. I think the religious exemption is bullshit. Yeah cause those fucking liberal Oregon fucking hippies don’t have a fucking thing to do with it. It’s just solely on the fucking religious people. I’m not blaming it on religious people. I am blaming it on the anti-vaxxers as a whole. They are using the religious exemption to get out of the requirement of having to vaccinate their children to attend public school. And that is bullshit. |
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Post by pierkiss on Apr 20, 2019 0:33:10 GMT
My thoughts are that the people in this country need to go back to vaccinating their kids and themselves against these diseases. We would not have nearly this many cases if that goddamn anti-vaxx movement wasn’t A THING. The MMR vaccine is safe (for most people) and effective AND IT DOESNT CAUSE FUCKING AUTISM! We can not control what other people do for medical care in other countries. But in this country the vaccines are readily and easily available. Unless a kid has an actual medical reason why they cannot be vaccinated, they need to get their damn shots. I think the religious exemption is bullshit. Yeah cause those fucking liberal Oregon fucking hippies don’t have a fucking thing to do with it. It’s just solely on the fucking religious people. Also, not sure what being a liberal has to do with anything. People on both sides of the political aisle are refusing to vaccinate their kids. Just because someone is a hippie doesn’t make them a Democrat. 😉 |
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 20, 2019 0:45:09 GMT
Yeah cause those fucking liberal Oregon fucking hippies don’t have a fucking thing to do with it. It’s just solely on the fucking religious people. Also, not sure what being a liberal has to do with anything. People on both sides of the political aisle are refusing to vaccinate their kids. Just because someone is a hippie doesn’t make them a Democrat. 😉 Absolutely. In my world, there is an equal amount of those "god, gays and guns" types who are paranoid of any government intervention - that believe vaccination is some kind of deep state government conspiracy. |
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 20, 2019 1:30:48 GMT
Unvaccinated individuals in my state are not allowed to return to school for 26 days if there is an outbreak. I bet that pissed off a lot of parents when there was an outbreak of mumps recently.  |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 20, 2019 1:58:41 GMT
The Hasidic Jewish Community in NYC is trying to follow the City's mandate to vaccinate. 329 cases in Brooklyn, between Oct and April, and 129 cases in Ramapo, Rockland County NY since ** Some Jewish community leaders are not wild about New York City’s new, shall we say, vaccination edict, but they, their organizations, and the overwhelming majority of local doctors are resolutely pro-vaccination. ** Gershon Schlesinger, president and CEO of Brooklyn’s ParCare Community Health Network, echoed the medical necessity of vaccinations and stated that all the large religious schools are on board with the city’s mandate. But he noted that some unvaccinated kids could be students at smaller yeshivas. Those schools might be more flexible in asking for vaccination certificates with other paperwork, he suggested, not because they’re anti-vaccine as a matter of policy, but because it’s not a priority for administrators dealing with student enrollments. And Der Yid, a Satmar daily newspaper in Yiddish, broke with tradition last week when it published an English version of an editorial proclaiming those who don’t vaccinate “Senseless! Heartless! Torah-less and Reckless.” ** www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/283472/hasidic-community-health-emergency |
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Post by lucyg on Apr 20, 2019 2:24:45 GMT
Thank you, Darcy Collins . Because I guess I’m just too damn lazy to look it up myself.  |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 20, 2019 2:37:50 GMT
Thank you, Darcy Collins . Because I guess I’m just too damn lazy to look it up myself. It's best to never google vaccine info anyway - it'll just depress you  |
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Post by MsKnit on Apr 20, 2019 2:39:06 GMT
I’ve never even had the chicken pox so it’s kinda scary to think about. I haven't either. My son's pediatrician recommended I get the chicken pox vaccination as close to the time as possible to when the Boy would be vaccinated. So, I did that. He and I had Fifth's disease at the same time. He was 6 months old. Not a fun time. |
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Post by carly1030 on Apr 20, 2019 2:43:12 GMT
Yeah cause those fucking liberal Oregon fucking hippies don’t have a fucking thing to do with it. It’s just solely on the fucking religious people. I think we all know it’s both extreme Christians and extreme hippies doing this. Both sides use the “religious” exemption. Are you just looking for people to scream insults at?
I guess you neglected to notice her religion jab. I am sure she wouldn’t have a problem with the ILLEGAL immigrants coming in that are NOT vaccinated. It’s amazing how you are considered fair but you overlook the kick in the nuts with the religious (unless it’s Muslims), white people, anyone who doesn’t support obama etc. As for the part in bold have you not noticed the CONSTANT shit talking for anyone that dares support OUR president? It’s only ok if people support who YOU agree with. |
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Post by ExpatBackHome on Apr 20, 2019 2:45:02 GMT
I have an appt Tuesday to get the MMR booster. I’ll be traveling to the US this summer and don’t want to catch it! I don’t know if I had one or two doses when I was a child.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 20, 2019 3:16:54 GMT
I am sure she wouldn’t have a problem with the ILLEGAL immigrants coming in that are NOT vaccinated. At present the immigrants from south of the border are NOT the ones bringing in measles. Residents returning home and/or visitors flying in are the carriers. |
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Post by lucyg on Apr 20, 2019 3:21:23 GMT
I think we all know it’s both extreme Christians and extreme hippies doing this. Both sides use the “religious” exemption. Are you just looking for people to scream insults at?
I guess you neglected to notice her religion jab. I am sure she wouldn’t have a problem with the ILLEGAL immigrants coming in that are NOT vaccinated. It’s amazing how you are considered fair but you overlook the kick in the nuts with the religious (unless it’s Muslims), white people, anyone who doesn’t support obama etc. As for the part in bold have you not noticed the CONSTANT shit talking for anyone that dares support OUR president? It’s only ok if people support who YOU agree with. That’s what it’s called, a religious exemption. That is the official name of the method people can use if they don’t want to vaccinate and can’t get a medical exemption. They fill out a religious exemption form. It’s not a big deal and no one is trying to insult Christianity (which I assume is what you’re up in arms about here). ETA the problem isn’t the religion, it’s the exemption. Could you maybe try to remember this country is overwhelmingly Christian and caters mainly to Christians? Not Jews, Muslims, atheists, Hindus, or any other faith/non-faith group. No matter what Fox News keeps telling you, most people are not trying to kick Christianity in the nuts. We realize we live in a culturally-Christian nation. Some of us enjoy it. I just bought Easter candy. No one is stopping you from supporting Trump. But no one else has to agree with you, either. Come in here and argue, you’re going to get an argument back. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 20, 2019 3:30:53 GMT
But in this country the vaccines are readily and easily available. Unless a kid has an actual medical reason why they cannot be vaccinated, they need to get their damn shots. I think the religious exemption is bullshit. Yeah cause those fucking liberal Oregon fucking hippies don’t have a fucking thing to do with it. It’s just solely on the fucking religious people. She said nothing about religious people. Understand, almost anyone has been allowed to claim a religious exemption WITHOUT documentation. It has NOTHING to do with religious people. The only exemption should be medical WITH documentation. |
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Post by pierkiss on Apr 20, 2019 3:42:06 GMT
I think we all know it’s both extreme Christians and extreme hippies doing this. Both sides use the “religious” exemption. Are you just looking for people to scream insults at?
I guess you neglected to notice her religion jab. I am sure she wouldn’t have a problem with the ILLEGAL immigrants coming in that are NOT vaccinated. It’s amazing how you are considered fair but you overlook the kick in the nuts with the religious (unless it’s Muslims), white people, anyone who doesn’t support obama etc. As for the part in bold have you not noticed the CONSTANT shit talking for anyone that dares support OUR president? It’s only ok if people support who YOU agree with. Are you talking to me? The only reason I mentioned the religious exemption is because that’s what people are using to get out of vaccinating their children if they are sending them to public schools in this country. BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT TO VACCINATE THEM DUE TO SOME BULLSHIT “SCIENTIFIC” STUDY BY ANDREW WAKEFIELD THAT HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY PROVEN TO BE BULLSHIT!!!!! ” Or perhaps they are choosing to home school to get around vaccinating. (Please note: I am not slamming home schoolers. I don’t care how you educate your children as long as you teach them the things they need to know to function in society. I also don’t care what your rationale is for choosing to homeschool it’s none of my business). I don’t care if people are religious. You love Jesus? That’s fantastic! You believe in God and that he created the world? Great, that’s amazing! You love Allah? Super! Flying Spaghetti Monster? Cool. Some other deity that I can’t think of at the moment or nothing at all? Sweet-whatever works for you do it! I’m not going to force my religion or lack here of down your throat, and hopefully you will show me the same courtesy. Oh, and as far as illegal immigrants go-I would like them to get their vaccines against communicable diseases when they get here. Just like I want everyone else (legal Americans) who are medically able to do so to get their vaccines. I bet a good portion of illegal immigrants would like to prevent their children (and themselves!) from catching diseases that shouldn’t have to have. Just like every other parent in the world. Because parents inherently want the best for their children (in most cases). No parent wants their kid to suffer unnecessarily. Legal or not. |
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 20, 2019 4:48:26 GMT
Yeah cause those fucking liberal Oregon fucking hippies don’t have a fucking thing to do with it. It’s just solely on the fucking religious people. 2014 tweet by Trump: “Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn’t feel good and changes – AUTISM. Many such cases!”
In April 2012 the tycoon-turned reality TV star told a very similar tale to Fox News. "It happened to somebody that worked for me recently. I mean, they had this beautiful child, not a problem in the world, and all of the sudden they go in and they get this monster shot ... they pump this in to this little body and then all of the sudden the child is different a month later.”
Donald Trump- adulterer, liar, draft dodger, sexist,.......
Clearly not religious
As for the part in bold have you not noticed the CONSTANT shit talking for anyone that dares support OUR president?
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 20, 2019 13:29:22 GMT
Also, not sure what being a liberal has to do with anything. People on both sides of the political aisle are refusing to vaccinate their kids. Just because someone is a hippie doesn’t make them a Democrat. 😉 Absolutely. In my world, there is an equal amount of those god, gays and guns types who are paranoid of any government intervention - that believe vaccination is some kind of deep state government conspiracy. I've read this a couple times, did you really mean gays? Is there a new saying I don't know about? |
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Post by christine58 on Apr 21, 2019 1:28:53 GMT
if I recall correctly it was born before 1965 I was born in 1958, my two brothers in 1960 and 1962 We were NOT vaccinated. But all three of us had the mumps and measles. |
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